Transcript for Piscataway Council meeting on February 13 2018
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Speaker 0 00:00:04 At this time, are there any comments in administration and council regarding any matters on this agenda? Item number six, which is open to the public. Are there any comments regarding item number 12? Consent agenda items at this time? Bernard, thank you. Item number seven, the ordinance of second reading amending Chapter three, police regulations Section three dash 26, idling of Vehicles, idling Restrictions. Please, please. Ordinance by Council Counsel, counsel of Piscataway Township, New Jersey, then ordinance entitled, ordinance amending Chapter three, police Regulations of the revised General ordinances of the Township of Piscataway County. Middlesex State of New Jersey three dash 26 Idling of Vehicles was introduced on the 30th day of January, 2018, and I passed the first reading and was published on the second day of February, 2018. Now therefore be it resolved that the Aset ordinance having had a second reading on February 13th, 2018, the adopted passed and after passage be published together with the notice of the date of passage or approval in the official new data. Speaker 0 00:01:08 You further resolve that this ordinance shall be assigned number 18 0 2. If you, Peter, are there any comments or questions from the public at this time regarding this meeting? Do I have a motion? Second Ms. Can you please roll Mr. Bullard? Mr. Gel? Yes. Mrs. Lombardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Rin? Yes. Mr. McCall? Yes. Ms. Item passes on second meeting, item number eight, an ordinance on second meeting as well where the acquisition of certain lands for the expansion of Possum Town Park, which is also over, over to the public. Ms, can you please read the ordinance? We resolved by the Township Council, Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Ordinance for the acquisition of certain lands for the expansion of Possum Town Park in Piscataway Township, county of Noex State, New Jersey 1 22 Possum Town Road Block 3 8 0 2. Block 1 2 1 0.04 was introduced on the 30th day of January, 2018, and I passed the first reading and was published on the second day of February, 2018. Speaker 0 00:02:06 Now therefore be it resolved that the adverse ordinance having had a second reading on February 13th, 2018, the adopted passed and after passage be published together with a notice of the date of passenger approval in the official newspaper. You have further resolved that this ordinance shall be assigned. Number 18 0 3. Thank you. Be seated. Are there any comments or questions from the public regarding this ordinance at this time? No. Okay. Do I have a motion? Motion? Second seat. Can you please vote? Roll. Mr. Buller? Yes. Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mrs. Lombardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Uhrin? Yes. Mrs. McCollum? Yes. This item passes on second reading item number nine. The consent agenda for efficiency items have been consolidated into a consent agenda to be voted on together. The materials for these items have been distributed to the council in advance of the meeting. At this time, are there any items of the council would likely to believe on the consent agenda to be, to be discussed or voted on? Separate? I have a motion. Motion A second? Second. Mr. Bullard? Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mrs. Lombardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Re? Yes. Mrs. McCollum? Yes. Item number 10. Announcements and comments from officials. Mr. Bullard comments? Question? No comment. Councilwoman Cahill, select everyone. Happy Valenti. Stay future Valenti. Ms. Ard, same day. Happy Valenti day. Morning, Mr. Haw. No thanks Mr. Hern. Our Mr. Administrator Speaker 1 00:03:51 Monday is president today, so the Township office closed. Speaker 0 00:03:55 Okay, thank you. Counsel, Speaker 1 00:03:57 Tomorrow birthday also. Happy birthday. Welcome. Speaker 0 00:04:04 Happy birthday one. Speaker 1 00:04:08 Just wanted to, vice counsel should be moving forward on the advising videotaping issues as well as the decorum issues that A CLU brought up and also the informal conferences language in the ordinance. And we're clearing all that up. I handed out a working draft to all of you earlier before the meeting and we will be, we have submitted this to the A CLU for their comment. We have it on, you'll see it on Post's agenda, so it'll, we're looking to do first reading in two weeks at the regular meeting. Okay. If you have any questions, comments, as this is work draft, you know, we'll, I also have copies for anybody in the audience if, if they would like a copy, you know, we'll, we'll be taking comments for the next two weeks until we have the first meeting. Okay. Okay. Speaker 0 00:04:59 Any questions on that? So I just have a few comments. I just left Sterling Village, so I just want to make everyone aware of a few upcoming events that they have on Thursday, February 15th. They have a Valentine's Day party from 11 to one and on Friday, February 23rd, they have a Black History celebration from 10 to one. And I also would like to mention that the Muslim Center has an event, a black history event on Saturday, February 24th from 7:30 AM to 10:00 AM It's located at 1000 close Lane. So if anyone would like to attend Oh sure. Please feel free to, to attend. Yes. One other thing I'd like to bring up this Saturday are the Fire Commissioner's elections. So everyone please remember to get out and vote in your Fire District Fire Commissioner elections, which is this Saturday, the 17th at your local firehouses. It's from two to nine. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Item number 10, which is open to the public at this time, if you have any comments or questions, please come to the podium and state your name and address and you have three minutes in which to speak. Speaker 3 00:06:25 Ambrose Scott. Speaker 0 00:06:26 Good evening. Speaker 3 00:06:28 Good evening Counsel. Good evening. This is a suggestion for item E Echo. I know what came up last about the expansion of the four months, but do you think it's a good idea since it's been out year when you have that extension for a month two? A month? Speaker 0 00:06:51 Two. The, Speaker 3 00:06:55 Although initially, I know it wasn't one time because you're not gonna remember this initially, especially with some of these contracts, the last for two years. What do you think about that suggestion? Speaker 0 00:07:05 So you see you're stating at the contractor's name? Yes. Okay. That's something Sure. We can take that into consideration. Thank you. Mr. Speaker 3 00:07:12 One other thing, you touched on this, Speaker 0 00:07:16 Mr. Akins, I think this one is listed this time. It's called All Clean Building Services. It's actually listed, it just, it probably doesn't sound like an official title, but I think this, in this case it actually is. It's called All Clean Building Services Incorporated. Yeah, that's the contractor that That's the contractor. Speaker 3 00:07:33 Okay. Speaker 0 00:07:34 I can see why you would Speaker 3 00:07:35 Ing that. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. The last agenda meeting, there was a question I gonna clarify the high school, middle school, elementary school, there's, there's three schools and my understanding that SROs are at those three public schools, security resource officers. And if I heard correctly, the Township pays for that for the Board of Education. If that's so, why is the Township paying for that for the Board of Education? Speaker 0 00:08:19 So you're, you're standing at three specific schools. I don't know which schools they were, but you're stating that the, there are police officers located at the school and is the Township paying? And if so, why isn't the board of Ed paying? Speaker 3 00:08:31 Oh, the Township is paying. Okay. Why isn't the Township paying? They didn't have money. Speaker 0 00:08:37 Why is the board of Ed paying? Yes. Yeah. So, you know, so great question. I'm going to look to Tim. Are you gonna make the comment the, the Speaker 3 00:08:48 SROs are police officers? Yes. So they're Skyway Township police officers, they're employees of Piscataway Township. Speaker 4 00:08:54 Yes. So we have a either formal, informal, bring the board of Ed to provide the SROs for the school districts. Speaker 0 00:09:04 Right, right. So you're stating we already allot the schools a a sum of money, so why can't they take it out of the money that we already provided Speaker 3 00:09:11 And as far as covering the schools got enough money, elected three officers or four do something else and let the Board of Education hire someone to do that to separate the Township from the Board of Education as far as paying for. Right. Speaker 0 00:09:29 We can take that back and, and mention this to the board and, and have some discussion around it. Speaker 3 00:09:35 What do you mean the board's gonna say? I mean, do I mean they haven't done, Speaker 0 00:09:39 I mean I understand what you're saying, but again, this is what you're saying as a taxpayer, you feel that you, you're giving a certain amount of money to the schools already and you feel that they should manage your budget and take it out according. Speaker 3 00:09:51 Absolutely, absolutely. Will you have an answer by next council meeting? Speaker 0 00:09:55 So I, I don't know that I'll have an answer, but I will commit to, to reaching out to the Board of Ed and making them aware of your question and we'll go from there. But I, but I promise to get back to you. Okay. Okay. Speaker 3 00:10:07 Thank you. That's it for that. Speaker 5 00:10:09 Thank you Mr Speaker 4 00:10:16 22 50 20 Avenue. Speaker 3 00:10:18 Good evening. Speaker 4 00:10:21 One, I'd like to comment on his request and I, I honestly feel like the Township and the police are responsible for public safety and the schools are part of his getaway. So, you know, it would seem that would be normal duty under for the police if that's, if that's required for student safety, it would seem to be a reasonable expense. I want to keep kids safe, et cetera. And I think schools are frequently already under resourced, so pulling additional money outta their budgets doesn't make sense to me. So with that said, I wanted to find out, and I have a vague idea, but if we've heard anything from Penford group regarding the turning, the building around and any other, any update regarding this, Speaker 0 00:11:15 It's my understanding at this point in time, we have not received any feedback as of yet. Speaker 5 00:11:19 Yeah, I don't Councilman Cahn, I apologize he's not here tonight. I know he is the council designate to speak to Penford groups and I know he had a meeting with them. I think he said it at the last meeting and he's not here tonight, but I will reach out to him and ask him to see if he's gotten an update. I, I think he would've advised Speaker 4 00:11:40 Well, I I, I actually had asked him and I got a one line response. I know he is in trial, so he is busy, but he said yeah, he hadn't heard any updates, but I thought I, yeah, Speaker 0 00:11:51 I can tell you that I did, Speaker 5 00:11:52 I did speak to him and as of right now, we have not heard anything back. If they are looking, I mean the last meeting that they had, and again, I think he stated this here, is that they are, they are looking into it. There's obviously gonna be an expense and all that good stuff and they will get back to him with what all that is. But he has not heard back yet. I, I know we heard that it could take them some time to go back and look and see what the whole cost was, but I'll reach out to him if the council, Speaker 4 00:12:20 At this point though, my understanding is they had agreed to the truck idling ordinance and waiving any private property restrictions on that. Speaker 5 00:12:31 I'm sure that's accurate, but I don't know that for sure. Speaker 4 00:12:37 I dunno what they agreed to or not. So we make a state. Yeah. Alright. So that was all I had. Speaker 5 00:12:43 Thanks Mr. We, I'll reach out to Mr. K for you and ask him to, you either reach out to you or if he has some information, I'll be sure to pass it on. Thank you. Thank you. You're quite welcome. Speaker 3 00:12:57 Hi, Jim Brennan, 2200 Custer Street. Good Speaker 2 00:13:00 Evening, Mr. Me Evening. Speaker 3 00:13:01 So just a follow up Mr. Wa comments. I too have been looking for follow up on this Penford issue. Now the, the idea of going back to Penford to make amendments to the building back to the way they originally proposed. It started at the end of December. A letter to Penford was sent on January 15th, but it was proposed internally before that Mr. Cahn went on vacation before that letter even went. So now we're six weeks out from when that process started and we have no information. And I understand it does take some time, but I'm starting to feel like this is a double only show Speaker 3 00:13:46 That this is just a way to drag it out so that somebody can come back to us and say, well, we tried, but it's too late. I don't think it's too much to ask that we get some feedback. I've contacted, I've called Mr. Cahn every day for the last nine days and have not received a returned phone call. And I'm sure if one of his legal clients called him nine times, they get a phone call, they pay him a little bit more. I get it. But I, I don't think it's too much to ask for our elected representatives to return phone calls and he's not the only one. Speaker 2 00:14:22 Thank you, Mr. Brenda and I. Speaker 3 00:14:23 There are, there are others sitting there that rarely return phone calls as well. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 2 00:14:32 Any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Speaker 3 00:14:38 My Speaker 6 00:14:38 Name is Fred White. I live at 6 0 7 Ellis Parkway. Speaker 3 00:14:41 Good evening, Mr. D White. Speaker 6 00:14:42 First of all, I want to thank the gentleman over here for having his office call me back regarding decibel meters. I found out that the county takes care of that. What's disappointing however, is that there are extra loud trucks idling your engines and it's over the limit. You can't just call 'em up and they come out and text it. You have to ask a day in advance. And so by that time the extra noise might not be there. Mm. But anyway, I wanted to thank him for that. And I also am concerned about the turning around and having the opening on Centennial rather than playing, going, playing field. Thank you. Sure. Speaker 7 00:15:27 Thank you Speaker 8 00:15:28 Council president. Just note that I'll ask Mr. Fer resident in the area Sure. To get back to and if he cannot that Speaker 7 00:15:35 I'll or them. Okay. Him. Thank you. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. I'm Staci Berger 2 33 Elli Parkway. You Ms. Berg. Good evening. So I, I'm thrilled to hear that the count that the council is working on an ordinance or a replacement ordinance for the videotaping informal conference on police powers issues. And I would love to get a copy of that. Sure. Before, before we break here, I just had a question 'cause I was a little confused last week. Councilman Lombardi and, and Councilman Conn talked about the fiscal committee meeting when you went over the budget and did all that hard work. And I'm just a little confused because there, there's nothing on the website about the committees and who's on which committees and when the committees meet. And if they're not subject to the Public Records Act because they're they're smaller groupings of the committee of the board, then I would have assumed that the, that those notices would have shown up in the Oprah request. The Open Public Records Act request that I made that that Goomer noted last. Right. So Speaker 0 00:16:36 We have, we have committees and there's a safety committee, there's a personnel committee there, there's quite a few Speaker 7 00:16:43 Committees. Well, on the, or in the reorg notes and on the, and the ordinance that establish, or the article that establishes the, the function of the, the committee of the council rather, there's four standing committees, physical, public works, public safety and personnel. I, I just am, it's unclear when those committees meet because on the or what was conduct the business and who's on those committees. It's, it's not public anywhere that I could find. I spent a little time on the clerk HP HQ website that I've been directed to, which PS doesn't link easily to your website. Like if you don't know that it exists, you would never find it. So you might wanna just make it a little less complicated for folks. Speaker 5 00:17:23 Yeah, I know Ms. Birder, you did mention that you saw it on the reorg. It is. We, they, we are all listed on the reorg and there's, and just so you know, those committees are never a quorum, just so you Speaker 7 00:17:33 Know. Right. And so that's, that's the question I have Councilwoman, the, the informal conference items that I requested to be open that I, I open, I was informed by Ms. Cedar's office that there were no informal conferences and there were no meetings of the council other than the council meetings that took place here. But that can't, both things can't possibly be true. You have committee meetings and you conducted business under some other structure, then you would at least have a record that those meetings took place. Not necessarily a formal notice, but that they actually have. So I'm confused because a and B cannot both be true. Understood. Speaker 10 00:18:08 No, Ms. Berger, hi, Mike Baker. Hi Mike. Hi. Good to see you again. Speaker 7 00:18:11 Nice to see you too. Happy Speaker 10 00:18:13 Birthday. Thank you. You're welcome. Happy Valentine's Day. They can both be true. 'cause a meeting of the Committee of Less Than a Quorum is not a meeting of the council, Speaker 7 00:18:22 But the ordinance of the informal conference says that they would, that those things would be, would take place. And so maybe that Speaker 10 00:18:29 Reference, that reference a meeting of, of, of a majority of the council, which as you pointed out, can't be done without public notice. This is a, these are working group meetings of committees, which by their nature have less than a majority of the council on it. So they're not formal meetings. I don't know when you meet and the timing, but I'm sure it's throughout, various times throughout the year they're working, they are informal and they do not qualify as council meetings. Speaker 7 00:18:55 Right. Because I've never, in the, I mean in this, in the six or eight times I've been here, I've not heard a committee report. So, and they're not on the listed on the agenda. So it's sort of strange that you would like either, did you, did you have committee? Are are there committee meetings besides the one that missed? Speaker 9 00:19:11 It was not a formal Speaker 0 00:19:12 Financing meeting. Speaker 9 00:19:13 When we're working on budget items, we can get together, but it's only with one or two. And maybe Daniel, but we can never get together all at the same time because we know that's against the law. Well, Speaker 7 00:19:25 Only if you don't notice it means it's perfectly legal if it's, if you notice it. Right, right. I mean, other governing bodies and both in town and and around the area have like opened their committee meetings to the public and they notice them and they, yeah, Highland Park just put out a list of their, their committee, their inter their Speaker 0 00:19:42 International committee. So I guess Right. So, so I guess what I should say is, is according to what Mike was just stating here, that we do not have, those are not like official meetings and we do not have more than three council people present when those committee meetings take Speaker 7 00:19:55 Place. So then if I wanted to get a record of when those meetings took place, I would have to open those different than the informal conferences in the, in the council or do you not keep, do you not keep a record of those meetings either? Speaker 10 00:20:07 They're Speaker 7 00:20:08 Not, I Speaker 0 00:20:09 They, they, they may not be scheduled meetings. I mean we, I could just, we could just decide that we are just gonna have, I could say, okay Michelle, I'm gonna meet you at such and such and, and have a conversation. Or I may just see her and start to have a conversation. So it may not be an official Speaker 7 00:20:22 Meeting. Right. I'm trying, I'm trying to get to when there is actually an official meeting of the Public Works committee committee, for example, if the public were interested in, in learning what the committee that deals with public works issue or public safety and would it be possible to at least get a list of which we're Speaker 9 00:20:37 Not at a scheduled at a regular date and time, those meetings. Right. And counsel, if I may, Staci I'm sure that, I mean, I'm sure that we can come up Speaker 5 00:20:46 And, and of course let the public know. But we do actually probably seamlessly and you wouldn't know it. But for, for example, Councilman Bullard is always reporting on the senior center and he's, because he's involved and he's on a committee for the agent group and he'll do that here. But Speaker 7 00:21:06 That's not a committee, that's not a formal committee. Right, right. I'm trying to get to the formal. Speaker 5 00:21:10 Okay then, so right on the finance committee, like specifically Council McConn mentioned last week, you know, he's on it so they see the budget or talk about it. I mean, he's free to report on it here in the council meeting. I don't, Speaker 7 00:21:26 I just haven't heard anybody actually give a committee report. So I was curious how the committees functioned because last week I was told that, that there were no informal conferences. And so I'm just trying to figure out, and I think a lot of people are trying to understand, understand the forum. There's not No, I understand, I understand that. But I'm just, Speaker 0 00:21:41 So I guess, I guess if I could just sum this up 'cause I think we're gonna go back and forth. Speaker 7 00:21:45 I'm, I'm just trying to understand. I appreciate you trying Speaker 0 00:21:47 To clarify. Yeah, no problem. So as we stated, when there's more than three people present, then that's something that we need to notice on. Correct. Speaker 7 00:21:54 Right. No, I, I understand that. Speaker 0 00:21:55 And in the event that we do, you know, if I meet Michelle or if I, if I, if I talk to her out and about, I can tell you that I don't document that that actually occurs. It could be informal meeting, to your point last week, I think you said if you meet at a restaurant or something of that nature and I have a discussion, it's not something that I document because it could be unofficial. Speaker 7 00:22:16 Right. I'm trying to get to the official committee meetings that, that the board that the council conducts its business at. So if there's a public safety issue, for example, if I could just finish my thought council please. If there's a public safety issue and a member of the public wanted to bring it to the council's attention, they might want to attend, for example, a committee meeting of the public safety committee of the council, they, who's on the public safety. Speaker 0 00:22:40 So, okay, so I think I understand your your point. So if you have a public safety concern and you would like to meet with the public safety committee, all you have to do is let us know. And we could actually have a formal meeting. We can actually schedule that and we could actually have those members attendance. Speaker 7 00:22:53 That, that's actually not my question, but I I appreciate the very, I'm just trying to understand if, if those meetings are never regularly scheduled, like people can't plan Speaker 1 00:23:01 Ms. Bur, I think that's the, I think that's good. The point is that I think currently they're not regularly scheduled that the committees meet as they need to do work and and they do it on an informed basis, get together and discuss things. So there, there wouldn't be notice under above Meetings act and Speaker 7 00:23:16 They could be, I mean the open public meeting is minimum floor. Speaker 1 00:23:19 Something, something that council, I think will, may take into consideration after your comments is maybe start scheduling some, some, you know, some regularly scheduled subcommittee meetings. Speaker 7 00:23:27 I'm just curious, I'm trying to understand how, how it works. And I don't think on, on the loan in that I think people are curious about how the council functions and we want, we wanna see what's going on so people can be involved or Speaker 1 00:23:37 Yeah. So I think their, your comments are taken into consideration and they may look into actually scheduling formal, you know, subcommittee meetings and noticing to the public to, to see if, if the public wants to come out and, you know, discuss Speaker 4 00:23:49 Anything. Great. Thanks a Speaker 0 00:23:50 Lot. You're welcome. Have a great Sure. You too. Any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Speaker 4 00:23:57 Good evening, Miller 1 2 33. Alice Parkway. Happy dear. Your comments? I I I think the suggestion, you know, the governance suggestion embedded in Ms. Berger's comments was that, you know, we, that you had these meetings that, you know, once a month you have a regular finance committee or regular public safety committee Speaker 0 00:24:15 Meeting. We don't really have regular one. I think that's what we're trying to say. Speaker 4 00:24:18 No, no, no, no. We, we, we understand, we went back, we all perfectly understand that there's not, there's not a regularly scheduled meeting currently and you know, it's you all governing about it. You run it however you want. But the suggestion is that if you had such regular scheduled meetings, you know, if you were to start having those meetings and someone who was interested in finance right, a question about finance, they could go to the finance committee and there would be the people there that would be best positioned to answer their question, you know, and then for example, they wouldn't have to come here with the finance question. Right. Actually, speaking of finance questions, is the 2017 audit finalized and available yet? Speaker 1 00:24:56 Sure. No, no. Just beginning to Speaker 4 00:25:00 Work. Okay. 2016. 2016 Speaker 1 00:25:03 Is completed. And it's on the website. Speaker 4 00:25:05 It's on the website. Oh, that's great. Okay. Is that, that came up and this would be another good thing for the finance committee, but I'll watch the video last you the last meeting, which was interesting. But one of the interesting things that came up was a question that I've heard from time to time in different contexts regarding the y and you know, we bought bricks and black brick money. You know, that's the, the sort of thing that the finance committee can answer. I think that the fund that was referred to, if I'm not mistaken, it's the community center fund that's, I think it's exhibit C 14 in the 2015 audit. It's probably on page 115. Speaker 0 00:25:42 You sound like you know better than I I can tell because I can, Speaker 4 00:25:45 That is, that is likely where that information would be found. So as, as of the 2015 audit had $3 million, which presumably came from, you know, excess, you know, surplus capital and budget, which was put into that capital reserve fund, which is a sensible course of action, you know, as of 2012 it had 5,000 in it. So that, you know, the short answer to the Bri's question is, you know, that money got spent somewhere along the line. It's, it's spent now. No, that's, that's not, no, that, Speaker 0 00:26:11 That's not the case. And I think at our last meeting, Mr. Tom Connors, he had a question about this and we let him know that he, what he could do is he could actually contact our Business Administrator and he could find out, 'cause I think he may have purchased a brick or two. So it Speaker 4 00:26:25 It right. I'm not, I'm not saying it was illegitimate that the money got spent. I didn't I'm presuming that it got on the site preparation. Mr. Speaker 0 00:26:35 Money is not spent. Right. The money is there for the residents who pay for those books. And that's what Mr. Said. Speaker 4 00:26:42 Right. It's approximately $165,000. It's in a separate account. Which one is that located in? It's in a separate account. That's was one money I was sold. Oh, so it's not in the it's not in the community center. No. The money you're referring to is the money at the county. The county gave the, that's, that's the $5 million million 5, 6, 7 years ago for the project. And we still have money available on that. The money is not spent. Would it be possible to get a recapitulation of the Speaker 11 00:27:14 Community center fund from, you know, the, Speaker 4 00:27:16 The fund flows from inception through December, 2017? Is that probably request, you know, answering any Sure. Question requested to the clerk office is glad to answer it. Can I email that or you need a formal Oprah or Oprah request and we'll take care of it. Okay. So the wording, that wording is correct. Just so I don't work more. Well you asked for what you would like, so we don't open request. If you have any questions of what understanding of your request, we will contact you. Okay. As allowed Understate law. Thank you. Sure. Speaker 0 00:27:50 Any other comments or questions from the public at this time, please? Sure, sir. Please come to the podium in the seat you remain. Sure, sure. We'll take Speaker 11 00:28:11 Good evening Council, council president. My name's Junior Romero with Food, water Watch. We're based at 100 Bayard Street in New Brunswick. Speaker 0 00:28:18 Sir, what was your last Speaker 11 00:28:19 Name again? Junior Romero. Speaker 0 00:28:21 Romero. And what was the organization Speaker 11 00:28:22 Related? Food and Water Wash. Food Speaker 0 00:28:24 And Water Speaker 11 00:28:24 Wash. Okay. We're a New Jersey environmental nonprofit and we've been approaching towns regarding the off fossil fuels campaign that ourselves and 50 other groups in New Jersey have been supporting. Basically premised out of the, the US s of Mayors met earlier this year or last year actually in 2018 and passed a resolution supporting getting their municipalities to a hundred percent renewable energy asap. They had a target date of 2035. 'cause this is what sign Scientific Consensus agrees is what we need to reach to avert a, a climate tipping point as, as they call it. So in New Jersey, 60 elected officials have already pledged their support to, to get off fossil fuels and onto a hundred percent renewable energy. This doesn't necessarily mean that they're passing ordinances to, to get there sustainably in their towns. Rather urging the state to, to, to, to put, to pass laws in place that would get us there and, and go to the federal government as well. Speaker 11 00:29:31 But at the federal government, we're not gonna pass as progressive policies as we can here in New Jersey. What you have in front of you is actually a resolution that Atlantic City passed last year. Atlantic City, as you may know, is one of the few towns that have offshore wind and they have turbines there and it's, it's also a community of color that is in desperate need of, of jobs to come to their area and they pass this resolution 'cause they know that jobs come with a huge transition to renewable energy and, and they support this goal. So basically my pledge, my my plea to the, the council and council president is to adopt a resolution as Atlantic City has passed. And we're talking with Princeton, Franklin and Highland Park as well right now urging them to pass a resolution similar to the one you have here to get us off fossil fuels and onto a hundred percent renew water. Speaker 2 00:30:24 Okay. Speaker 0 00:30:25 Thank you Mr. Re Thank you. Thank you very much. I think someone's come to my neighborhood. I think he knocked on my door asking about this too, I think. Oh yeah. Speaker 12 00:30:33 So Speaker 0 00:30:35 Any other comments or questions from the public? I did. Sure. Speaker 12 00:30:53 Curtis 1750 West third. Speaker 0 00:30:56 Good evening. Mr. Speaker 12 00:30:57 Mr. F says award contract for the second year. Give him an object for the second year. Speaker 0 00:31:08 Second this item number F This is a resolution for 2017, Speaker 12 00:31:14 2018. I know who monitors the people in. Speaker 0 00:31:25 You're saying who Speaker 12 00:31:26 Monitors? Speaker 0 00:31:28 Oh, who oversees them when they do their work? Who public works. Speaker 2 00:31:32 Okay. Speaker 12 00:31:33 That be Guy. Speaker 4 00:31:36 Guy or whoever guy designates. Speaker 12 00:31:38 Okay, we need, okay we need to get guy board but these guys are not doing a good job and I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna get word now. But the last painting I was talking you guys, the Mayor said that m and a contract for cleaning up the property and you would get to it. I think that contract is over. Is it? Or is it not? The contract MA to clean up the problem part. Speaker 0 00:32:09 Was that the one that was extended? Speaker 12 00:32:11 I don't think it's extended. Speaker 4 00:32:13 I'm to find out. I know it was awarded after I got here last year, so I got here in April so it probably still isn't effect until probably May or June. I would think Speaker 12 00:32:23 You have an answer for me for the next meeting. Sure. Oh and issue. I Speaker 0 00:32:29 Mr do you wanna you Speaker 12 00:32:33 No, Nancy week I'll be here. The issue I have about the grass cutting and last year we was talking about dredging the, the, the parks that ponder across the street from the park. Remember Frank? I remember. Okay, last meeting we discussed that that property belongs to the the truck stop. Correct. That property belongs to the people on Second Street. That's what I was told last meeting. Right, right. Speaker 0 00:33:07 I think you're right. You said it was part of, Speaker 12 00:33:09 Okay, now how are we going to drink that if it belongs to him? How are we? We you talking about going in with public works and draining the water so it wouldn't flood now this year it not our property Speaker 0 00:33:28 So so Speaker 12 00:33:29 Property Speaker 0 00:33:29 Tim, could you check into that? Could you check? 'cause I just wanna make sure we're speaking correctly about the right property and we know exactly what we're Speaker 12 00:33:35 Talking. Speaker 4 00:33:36 Yeah, I keep asking Kurt Curtis if Curtis would come in and he can sit with Guy and me instead of we do this every two weeks, you know, and it gets harder. You come in and that's Speaker 12 00:33:48 Hard. Speaker 4 00:33:48 We can look at the maps and Speaker 12 00:33:50 Not that hard a piece of property. If it's across the street from these wood park, it's not a big piece of property. It goes all the way up to Columbia Park. Speaker 0 00:33:59 So, so I guess this right, and that's something you just said. If it has a lien on it right, then that's the way that we could go in into that's we have, Speaker 12 00:34:07 I don't think it's a lien and I think maybe this, this thing has been going on for like four years and it's been with all of them saying we're going to go get in this so it doesn't flood in the water will run past Columbus gonna be a parking office now he say it ain't our this. Speaker 4 00:34:26 So if you can every day in Lake, come in here and we'll have a meeting with you and me and Guy and Joe will do it in the municipal building. So if there's a question of ownership, we'll go down to the tax office and we can resolve it. Instead of me guessing what you want and guy guessing what I'm asking him for. We just sit down together. I sure probably resolve it about 15 or 20 minutes. Speaker 12 00:34:52 Okay, so we going do lunch tomorrow. Speaker 4 00:34:56 We're actually gonna be in Trenton River Day next week. Give Dana, give Dana Speaker 12 00:35:06 Schedule kind of busy too. Speaker 4 00:35:08 Or a week after. I want to try to solve the problem, but Speaker 12 00:35:11 Okay. I have, Speaker 4 00:35:12 It's been going on for four years. Doesn't Speaker 12 00:35:15 You can't sell it. I know somebody. So just one a couple Speaker 0 00:35:19 Quick. Probably got more seconds. Speaker 12 00:35:22 I need to know if I can get the request of the work orders for he public works for the day. I had the eight 30 this morning. There was a street sweep route. He currently did the evening side or the, he did the odd side of Hazelwood there. Now that was at eight 30 in the morning, so I assume he was gonna come back and finish it. What happened? I called guy so I didn't get an answer. Something I need to know who the gentleman was. Speaker 4 00:35:57 That guy was out, out sick Speaker 12 00:35:58 Today. Okay. So I need to know who the gentleman was that does one side of the street and don't use no water. I need to know. Speaker 4 00:36:06 Well, we're not using water in the winter time. We're using, we have the, we have the vacuum cleaner and we have the Tim coat cleaner. Neither we choose water. I don't think we've got one that does use water. I don't think we're gonna use it because it's going up to 24 degrees today. Speaker 12 00:36:20 Okay. So maybe, maybe, maybe when I set the meeting up, maybe you could come out to my area then we'll come up here and talk to God because he needs water to pick up dirt on. I think Speaker 4 00:36:31 Nobody, nobody really uses water in the winter time. That's why we have Timco Sleeper and the Vacuumer. Speaker 12 00:36:39 Okay. I need you to put a request into Guy while I'm here. Did the snow drink need clean over at the park? Speaker 0 00:36:49 Okay, so you have that Tim? Yep. Okay. Okay. Thank you Mr. Grus. I do. Okay. Speaker 0 00:36:54 And any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Okay, at this time I'd like a motion to adjourn the meeting. Motion. Do you have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Meeting has been adjourned and I'd like to move on to the proposed agenda meeting for February 27th. At this time, I'd like to call the meeting to order. Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided as required of the chapter 2 31 PL 1975, specifying the time, date, location as the extent known the agenda by posting a copy of the notice on a municipal building municipal court and the two municipal library bulletin boards providing a copy to the official newspapers of the Township. And by filing a copy of the office of the Township clerk in accordance with the certification by the clerk, which will be entered into the minutes. Ms. Cedar, can you please call the roll? Mr. Goomer? Here. Mrs. Cahill? Here. Mr. Mrs. Ardi? Here. Mr. Haw? Here. Mr. Here. Mrs. MCC here, can you please stand for the Speaker 13 00:37:57 United States of America and the Republic Liberty Speaker 0 00:38:08 Item number five. This is an ordinance on second reading to exceed the municipal budget appropriation and establish the cap bank. This will be open to the public. Are there any comments or questions from the council? This side? No counsel president. Just to make a note that this we do every year. Okay. Thank you. Item number six, which is an ordinance on first reading amending chapter two administration section two dash six. Council meetings resolution to adopt this ordinance. I believe this is what our attorney Goomer spoke about earlier during the comments or questions at this time regarding that ordinance. Speaker 2 00:38:47 Item Speaker 0 00:38:47 Number seven, a resolution master resolution for biddable items for 2018. Are there any comments or questions on this item? Item number eight, a resolution authorizing refund of overpayment of taxes due to tax court judgment. This is for 3 77. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number nine, A resolution authorizing refund of overpayment of taxes due to tax court judgment. This is for three 30 South Randolphville Road or any questions at this time. Item number 10, A resolution authorizing refund of overpayment of tax due to tax court for a tax court judgment for 1 41 Ethel Road West. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number 11, a resolution authorizing refund of overpayment of taxes due to tax court judgment again at one 40 Ethel Road West. Any comments or questions? Item number 12, resolution authorizing change order number one for restroom renovations to the administration building DPW and Public Safety Building not to exceed $7,858 and 91 cents. Are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number 13, resolution authorizing return of maintenance bond for 20 Duke Road. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number 14, a resolution authorizing the sale of 1 39 School Street. Any comments or questions at this time? Speaker 0 00:40:24 Item number 15, the resolution authorized the return of duplicate 2018 rent, excuse me, retail food license fee and late fee for to Wendy's for $445. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number 16, the resolution authorizing refund of overpayment of taxes for duplicate payments for various blocks and lots or are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number 17, a resolution authorized and refund of overpayment of taxes due to tax court judgment and this is at 8 55 Centennial Avenue and 8 33 Centennial Avenue. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number 18, a motion to accept the report of the clerk's account for January, 2018. Any comments or questions? Item number 19, a motion to accept the report of the division of revenue for January, 2018. Any comments or questions? Item number 20, a motion to receive and enter into minutes disbursements for the month of January, 2018. Any comments or questions? Item number 21, a motion to be accepted minutes from the regular and agenda meetings for December 19th, 2017. Are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number 22, a motion to accept the minutes for the reorganization and agenda meetings for January 2nd, 2018. Are there any comments or questions? Item number 23. Are there any announcements and comments from officials at this time? Mr. Bullard, Speaker 14 00:41:52 Continue. Speaker 0 00:41:56 Thank you, Councilman. Gabrielle. Speaker 5 00:41:59 Well, and also too for myself and other fellow Catholics and how we, we in lent season on Valentine's Day. So I told my husband we'll have to go out to a seafood restaurant, but Speaker 0 00:42:14 That's always good. Speaker 5 00:42:15 I, I do want to say to those folks who begin the Len season, you know, it's a time of reflection and then I'm not sure shortly thereafter, at some point Passover will be celebrated as it seems that Easter and Passover are hand in hand and would make sense. But I do hope for all those folks celebrating over this season, time for reflection. And Speaker 15 00:42:42 That's about it. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:42:43 Thank you. Council Marty Speaker 15 00:42:46 Just wanted to make a acknowledgement. We had Abraham Lincoln over at the senior center. I thought you would bring Speaker 5 00:42:54 This in. Speaker 14 00:42:56 I didn't Speaker 15 00:42:57 On, on Monday afternoon. And I think he had a very nice Speaker 5 00:43:02 Turnout Speaker 15 00:43:03 And he sure did look like Abraham Lincoln. Speaker 14 00:43:08 Excuse me. A lot of times people say Elvis is back and kicking. Abraham Lincoln was at senior center, just a dance on Monday. And believe me, his face, his expression, it, it was, it was like, man, you know. Speaker 15 00:43:25 Well, thank you. Speaker 0 00:43:29 Councilman Ka shop. Speaker 14 00:43:30 Nope. Thank Speaker 0 00:43:30 You. Councilman, Uhrin, Mayor. Any comment, any comments or questions? Speaker 14 00:43:37 Less than four hours left to fat Tuesday. So let's practicing C. So if you want to mute, now's the time to do it before it life stops. Speaker 0 00:43:45 Okay. Tim our Business Administrator counsel, Mr. You at this time I don't have any additional comments, but I'd like to open it to the public. If you have any comments or questions, please feel free to come to the podium. State your name and address and you again, you have three minutes in motion to speak. Okay. I'd like to have a motion to adjourn the meeting. Motion. You have a second? Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Adjourn. Thank.