Transcript for Piscataway Council meeting on June 14 2018
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Speaker 0 00:00:01 At this time, are there any comments from the administration or counsel regarding regard of any matters of this agenda? No. Item number six, which is open to the public. Are there any comments regarding item number seven? You consent. Agenda items. Item number seven, the consent agenda for efficiency items have been consolidated into a consent agenda. Be voted on together. The materials for these items have been contributed to the council and advance the meeting at this time. Are there any items that the council would like to move from the consent agenda to be discussed or voted on separately? Do I have a motion? Oh, excuse. I did that. Okay. Do you have a motion? Speaker 1 00:00:51 Motion. Speaker 0 00:00:51 Motion? Get a second. Second. You seat your team please Hold the roll. Mr. Buller? Yes. Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mr. Cahn? Yes. Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. rn? Your Honor. Mrs. McCall? Yes. Thank you. Item number eight, which is an ordinance on second reading private sale to continuous property owner of vacant undersized lot to highest bidder block 1517 block 19 dash 9 36 Washington Avenue, which is open to the public. Ms. Cedar, could you please read the ordinance here? Resolved by the Township Council of Theca Township of New Jersey, that an ordinance entitled an ordinance for the private sale to a continuous property owner of a vacant undersized lot, commonly known as 9 36 Washington Avenue designated as block 1 5 1 7 lot one nine on the tax map of Deville. Piscataway County of Middlesex State, New Jersey to the highest funeral among all continuous property owners, was introduced on the 15th day of May, 2018 and had passed the first reading I was published on the 18th day of May, 2018. Now therefore be resolved that the officer of ordinance having had a second ruling on June 14th, 2018, the adopted passed and after passage be published together with the notice of the date of passenger approval in the official newspaper. Be further resolved that this ordinance shall be signed. Number 18 dash one 11. Thank you. See, are there any comments or questions for the sign? Speaker 0 00:02:11 Enc. See, can you grab a motion? Speaker 1 00:02:13 Motion? Speaker 0 00:02:14 Do I have a second? Sorry. Msid, can you please call the roll? Mr. Buller? Yes. Mrs. Ajo? Yes. Mr. Kahn? Yes. Mrs. Lombardi. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Earn? Yes. Mrs. McCall? Yes. Thank you. Item number nine, an ordinance on first reading to adopt a redevelopment plan for 1350 Sealy Avenue Block 55 0 1 block, 10.01 and 10.13 A resolution adopting this ordinance. Ms. Cedar, could you please read your ordinance, be it resolved by the Township Council, the scatter Township, New Jersey that any ordinance entitled Ordinance to adopt a redevelopment plan for 30 and 50 Sealy Avenue designated as block 5 5 0 1, left 10.01 and 10.13 on the tax map of the town of Piscataway being is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading in public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane, Piscataway, New Jersey on the 14th day of July, 2018. Speaker 0 00:03:07 Be a further result that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office Council clerk for any interested member of the public. You can seat. Do you have a motion? Motion a second. Second and seat. Can you please pull the roll? Mr. Bullard? Yes. Mrs. Cahill. Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mr. Hah? Yes. Mr. Lombardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Uhrin? Yes. Mrs. McCollum? Yes. Ms. Ida has on first reading item number 11, which is an ordinance on second reading, amending chapter 21, zoning to provide the conditions of firearm sales use within in Township, which is, oh, I'm sorry, ordinance item number 10 in ordinance on first reading a bond ordinance for various capital improvements, 6.5 million, 7,000,005 $15,000 slash 7,000,001 $39,250. An ordinance. Speaker 0 00:04:12 An ordinance. That is our first reading. Ms. Cedar, can you please read the ordinance Be resolved by the Township Council of Pi Scout Township, New Jersey that an ordinance incredible of bond ordinance provided for various capital ordinance in and by the Township of Pisca and County of Ook, New Jersey, appropriating 7 9 500 $15,000. Therefore, and authorizing ance of $7,139,250 bonds or notes of the Township to finance a part of the cost thereof being is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading of public hearing be held at 7:30 PM per prevailing to of the scattering municipal building for 85. Was link staggering New Jersey on the 14th day of July, 2018. Be further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be available at the office of the Township clerk for any interested member of the public. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:05:06 Do I have a motion? Motion? Second. Second seat If you please pull wall. Mr. Bullard? Yes. Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mr. Kam? Yes. Mr. Lombardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. Earn? Yes. Mrs. McCollum? Yes. Thank you. Item number 11, which is an ordinance on second reading, amended chapter 21, zoning to provide the conditions of firearm sales using the Township, which is open to the public, the senior, the ordinance to resolve that Township counsel of the Township New Jersey that an ordinance entitled an Ordinance to Amended supplement the Revis on Ordinance Township of the County Sac Day in New Jersey. Amending chapter 21 zoning was introduced on the eighth day of May, 2018 and passed. The first reading was published on the 11th day of May 18. Now therefore, we resolved at the opposite ordinance having had a second reading on June 14th, 2018, the adopted class and after class to be published together with the notice of the date of passenger report will in the official newspaper. The further result that this ordinance shall be assigned number 18 dash two. Thank you. Are there any comments or questions from the public at this time? Sure. Please come to the podium. Please state your name and address and your three minutes of which you speak. Thank Speaker 2 00:06:14 You. Speaker 0 00:06:17 Thank you. Speaker 2 00:06:19 My name is Daniel Smut. I'm an attorney with the firm of Harin and Minke in Ridgewood, New Jersey. I represent the Association of New Jersey Rifle Pistol, but who has members that live within the Township of Pascal. We have sent a letter earlier today to municipal attorney, Mr. Baker, hoping that it was an opportunity for it to be distributed to the members of the council. The letter expresses our grave concern that the proposed ordinance is an illegal under both state and federal law in that it file, it violates the second Amendment to the Constitution and it violates the state preemption law. The, the zoning ordinance purports to limit as a conditional use the sale of firearms within a thousand feet of certain properties. What it effectively does is effectively makes it difficult for any retailer to sell firearms within the Township, within the words of the Township and the news reports and statements from members of the council make it plain that the purpose of the ordinance is in fact to exclude businesses that sell firearms from the town entire or to make it very difficult for those businesses to open up and conduct lawful business within the Township orders. Speaker 2 00:07:41 That type of effort is plain plainly, but I know that there's been some discussion that the ordinance was drafted to comply with a recent decision of, of the Court of Appeals, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in the case of Sheriff versus Al County. Unfortunately, and as if you, if you had a chance to read our letter, the Alameda case actually does not support the ordinance. In fact, the Alameda case makes it clear the ordinance would be unconstitutional just as the court of appeals for the Seventh Circuit ruled. In a similar case, eel versus the city of Chicago. What those cases have in common is the issue of whether individuals have a constitutional right to be able to purchase firearms. And the answer is clearly yes. Both the Second Circuit, and I'm sorry, both the Seventh Circuit and the ninth Circuit made it clear that the right of people to be, have the opportunity to purchase firearms within any given municipal municipality or jurisdiction was a right protected by the Second Amendment. Speaker 2 00:08:44 The Ninth Circuit did absolutely did not say that the Ninth Circuit did say that, but the ninth, the reason the case came out the way it did was because there were 10 other gun stores in the county. And what the, what the Ninth Circuit said was that the plaintiffs couldn't show that excluding the 11th store impaired the ability of individuals to purchase firearms because there were 10 other stores within the jurisdiction. So the Alga case was about the 11th story, not the first story. The Azel case was about the first gun range In the Azel case, Chicago adopted a zoning ordinance that essentially did the same thing. It is essentially made it incredibly difficult and not impossible for a gun range to open up within the city limits of Chicago. And the Seventh Circuit said that you can't do that. You can't have no ranges. Speaker 2 00:09:34 Similarly, you can't have no stores. If the Alameda case was about the first store in the county, it would've come out very differently. So the Alameda case plainly demonstrates that. And if you read the case, it agrees with the reasoning Elle, and it agrees with the concept from the Heller case and the McDonald case that by extension to these kinds of cases, the purchase and acquisition of firearms is part and parcel to the right keeping their arms. So just as you cannot ban the possession of firearms within city limits, within seven minutes, within 10 minutes, you can't ban or contextually exclude a business that allows people to purchase firearms. Speaker 0 00:10:16 So, so Mr. Daniel, so I just wanted just, I just wanna comment. So just in terms of, you have your three minutes, so if you could just, I just give you about 30 more seconds to kind of just, if you could just Speaker 2 00:10:26 Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I wanna go over the other issue of course is preemption New Jersey case law is very clear that state regulation of firearms is a very comprehensive area that the state has, has exclusively occupied The adult division made it clear in Association of New Jersey rifle pistol clubs versus Jersey City, that municipalities are not free to allow what is prohibited by state law or prohibit what is allowed by state law. State licensed dealers are explicitly allowed by state law to sell lawfully sell firearms. And so municipalities not allowed to circumvent that by making it contextually or explicitly difficult or prohibited to operate a lawfully licensed business within. So Speaker 0 00:11:11 I'm going to give our counsel an opportunity, Mike, if you would like to come. Speaker 3 00:11:16 Thank you, council President. I, I, I read the counsel's letter that I appreciate his advocacy on behalf of his client. I disagree with his interpretation of the cases and their application here. The case that he cites for preemption deals with a limitation on the number of weapons that could be purchased in a month that clearly ISTed by the state zoning power, however, is not been preempted by the state. A local issue, as you all know, many, you haven't served on the planning board. The Elle case Chicago relates to the location of a firearms shooting area, practice area range. The court in that case felt that the ownership of guns and the ability to practice and use them so that you could use them in your home for safety were linked and were second Amendment issue. In the Alameda case that the Shera case, the court found that local zoning can be used in the way that we have used it to regulate the areas where sales can take place. We're not prohibiting owner, we're not prohibiting carrying, we're not prohibiting purchasing, we're regulating the sale of firearms in certain areas that the community, which you represent as deemed sensitive areas such as near churches, their synagogues, near schools, near daycare centers. And I'll point out that the reasoning in Alameda County, it was on appeal to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court just denied certification in late May, which means the Supreme Court is allowing the Ninth Circuits decision to stand. And our ordinance was based and drafted on the ninth Circuit decision. I Speaker 0 00:12:59 Was good comment. My, my co-counsel Speaker 3 00:13:01 Really covered all the points. Remember your Councilman tonight, Speaker 0 00:13:06 Madam president Speaker 3 00:13:07 May just read one quote into the record. Speaker 0 00:13:09 So, so at, at this time now. So you've giving your three minutes at this time. You'll have to, it's the words of Mr. Cahn. That's okay. I it's okay. But I I this I can't allow you to, to exceed that. Thank you. You're welcome. Are there any other comments or questions from the public? Please comment Speaker 4 00:13:23 Regarding this ordinance or in general? Speaker 0 00:13:25 Yes. So much some ordinance. Right. Then we'll open it up. Speaker 5 00:13:32 Good evening Speaker 0 00:13:33 Everyone. Speaker 5 00:13:34 I'm not an attorney. I'm far removed from that. Could you state, state your name and I'm Sergeant Carillo. I live in the town of Piscataway for almost 40 years, probably. I'm here personally to say I understand where you're coming from because you have been hired by people to do what you do. I come from a situation where my granddaughter was in Parkland in the freshman school in a classroom that was shut up with bullets. The glass was knocked out because a child who they knew he's not a child, a person that they knew had really difficult problems and nobody did anything to prevent him from getting into that school or getting him help. So we are not asking you to give up all your firearms. Right? We're telling you you cannot have them by schools, by children's areas, by playgrounds, by hospitals, by anything, anywhere that those people, those people are gonna get. Speaker 5 00:14:34 You cannot regulate morality and you can't make sense outta crazy. But we can make laws and ordinance to try to prevent what happened in other places. I just came back from Florida. They had to send out a SWAT team because there was a hostage situation of a young man who has now published a book. And that young man now is living in fear as my granddaughter is because now they get death threats. Now you tell me a grandmother who has dealt with this, staying with her daughter that's dealing with this with her children, who doesn't want even her daughter to go back to that school. But that daughter insists of on going back 'cause she's not gonna let anybody stop her from getting a vegetation, but she can't get her lab books because you're cutting in blood. Her dear lab partner was killed. Her neighbor's son was killed. Speaker 5 00:15:24 One of the young ladies went on top of who was shot crawled to another young man and laid on top of that young man. 'cause she heard that he was still alive. And she took seven more bullets. And those bullets went through that young lady into that young man. And neither one of them survived. And I'm not even talking about the children that wound up in the hospital. Not to mention the teachers that were killed because some didn't do what they were supposed to do, what they were paid to do. So you tell me, sir, why we cannot have this ordinance in this town of Piscataway, which has waited one of the best towns in the country. You tell me where I you want your people to be able to buy a gun next to a school, next to a playground, next to Aade Kenner. And you tell me, and you can go back and tell your people that there was a very emotional grandmother telling you, you don't need to be buying firearms because our, our forefathers didn't have a world like this. Our forefathers did that amendment to protect their lands, to be, to be careful of who was gonna invade their property, not to go out and shoot up the world. Thank Speaker 0 00:16:36 You. Okay. Thank, thank you. Are there any other comments or questions at this time? If so, please come to the podium. State your name and address and you have remain shall speak. Okay. Do I have a motion? Motion Second. All set? Yeah. Ms. Cedar, can you please Mr. Bullard? Yes. Mrs. Cahill? Yes. Mr. Cahn? Yes. Mrs. Ardi? Yes. Mr. Shaw? Yes. Mr. rn? Yes. Mrs. McCall? Yes. This item? Yes. MS eight. Speaker 6 00:17:19 I just want to make a quick point. I wanna thank everybody, my colleagues, for stepping up and, and, and taking a leadership position on this really important issue. The restriction that we put in place is we gonna solve the problems for our country. Hopefully it'll part of discussion. I welcome the discussion with whoever wants the debate, with whoever wants to have it lead. Our federal government won't lead, we'll lead from here. Speaker 0 00:17:46 Also wanna thank our children in our, because recently they also had something at the high school and it was an opportunity for us to hear their voices. So also thank you for, for standing them as well. Also, Councilman Cahn and I had discussions. It's not gonna stop here. This is just our first step to try to advocate for all of these children that have had horrific experiences. But we have to also address other items. We have to address mental illness. We have to address everything that's attached with this. And we have to make the people in our town aware of the mental illness issues combined with this. So it's not just a single, single fix, it's a multifaceted fix. So this is just the first step in trying to move forward to try to move in the right direction. Yeah. Speaker 6 00:18:38 If I could follow up briefly what my colleagues said. We, we begun having some discussions about what other things we could do in the areas of mental health and counseling, perhaps through our municipal alliance. What other, what, what other innovative things that we can do in our community that will help, you know, lead in this real national crisis. He said, we've begun that discussion. Mr. Dacy and I had the, had the honor of being invited by the governor's office to the bill signing ceremony yesterday, yesterday in Trenton. And we had the opportunity to talk to numerous different folks who had some, some different ideas. And so that's something else we want to talk about. And maybe we come up with some innovative ideas as well in some of the mental health areas and some other, some other things that really make this a bigger crisis than, than it should be in our country. Speaker 0 00:19:33 I have number 12. Did you wanna say something? I'm sorry. Well, I'll just be careful very briefly. Sure. So I actually had an opportunity to listen to three students from Parkland over this last weekend, speak about their experience. And they each shared what had happened to them that day. But what I took away as someone at my age was that some regret and sadness that as adults, we have not, we've not taken care of our children. I'm listening to these young people and I'm sorry I started crying, Helen, because I, I am listening to you and I listen to these young students and they're speaking to adults, telling them that, you know, you need to step up and I'm not contemplating why a child needs to tell adults in this country to step up and do the right thing. I was extremely impressed with their bravery. They were all well spoken and determined and each one of them said that they will never stop. And I am very impressed with them and I am sure that we have students here at Piscataway who feel the same way, who speak just as eloquently. And I do hope that they are the ones that lead the web. Speaker 0 00:20:51 Okay. I'll move on to item number 12. Any announcements or comments from the officials? Mr. Bullard? Speaker 7 00:20:58 Not at this time, Speaker 0 00:20:59 No. Thank you. Ms. Ga. No, thank you Mr. Ka. No, Speaker 6 00:21:02 Thank you. Speaker 0 00:21:03 Mr. Marty. Not. Thank you Mr. Chaill. No thanks. Mr. rn. No Business. Administrator counsel. Speaker 6 00:21:11 No comment. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:21:14 Okay. And I don't have any additional comments at this time. Item number 13, which is open to the public. If you have any, any comments or questions, please come. Name, address. You have Speaker 7 00:21:25 Anthony while 2250 Plainfield Avenue North. Scott, good Speaker 0 00:21:29 Evening, Ms. Speaker 7 00:21:30 Morning. Hi, how are you? Hey, I want to applaud you guys for this ordinance and other things you're contemplating. I didn't want to speak that twice, but I think it's important. And guns everywhere, it just doesn't work. And we need restrictions. We need reasonable gun control unless you're trying to do something, which on the town level is kind of hard. So that's it. What's the news on a, Speaker 6 00:21:59 I'll say the news. The news is that we, Mr. Dacy and I, we had a field trip on Tuesday where we went out to the site so we could see exactly what was going on and asked questions of the, get the gentleman's name on onsite project manager. I know you've met him. And we had the opportunity to review the firm plans, the buffer plans, and to physically, you know, as a former infantry officer, I like to look at, I like to size up the terrain. So that's what we did. And I came away with some thoughts. I actually got, I asked for sets of some plans. I got some additional stuff tonight. And we have a meeting next week with the developer to talk about some of the open issues. I'm gonna make some suggestions on some modifications with respect to the buffering. And as far as an update on his, what I've been told by everybody, including that gentleman after, I should remember his name, I, I can't recall, met him before, but there's no tenant at this point in time. What he did indicate to me that if, what he did indicate to me is that if there was no tenant and they built this and they were gonna go ahead and build the structure that they, the plans he had that and he showed 'em to me. We're, we're a 40 bay facility, not a 78 Bay facility. That's actually what they be building. But, but, but again, it's dependent on whether or not that particular tenant takes the space. That tenant takes the space, then that's not what they, Speaker 7 00:23:52 It's a 39 day facility, I think. And that's with knockouts every, so they're built, they're gonna have every other day open and then have the ability to knock out 39 more bays is my understanding. That was the original plan. The last, Speaker 6 00:24:09 They're not, they're not do anything until they have, until they have a tenant in there. And the tenant that they been Speaker 7 00:24:16 Well understand talking about it would be a 39 bay truck warehouse that, you know, I oppose and I believe all my neighbors are pretty, pretty opposed. And Speaker 6 00:24:26 So the record is clear because it wasn't clear by some unknown source from the heavens. I've always been opposed to it too. Speaker 7 00:24:33 You voted for it. Speaker 6 00:24:35 I never voted for you. Speaker 7 00:24:36 You didn't vote to approve the Kinneally board's contract for the contract. Speaker 8 00:24:40 I sat right here. Speaker 6 00:24:42 You know, you Tony know 'cause you and I have had numerous private conversations. I've always been against the Speaker 8 00:24:47 Revisionist history. I Speaker 6 00:24:49 Didn't vote. So, but that's besides the point. Speaker 7 00:24:50 Well I just, one question. Did the council vote on the contract with these guys? I'm pretty, the Speaker 6 00:25:01 Council does Speaker 8 00:25:02 Not vote. They approve the waiver. They Speaker 7 00:25:03 Don't approve final agreements that the planning board, Speaker 8 00:25:07 They approve the waiver. But the zoning board gave, Speaker 6 00:25:10 I'm think about whether or not we voted on pilot program with respect to what the tax structure would be. That's got nothing to do with the design and approval Speaker 8 00:25:19 Of the, they approved the Speaker 6 00:25:20 Waiver. So I said from the very beginning, I thought that it was too big and too intense to be used for the wrong use for that location. While I was in favor of it being redeveloped. I was not ever in favor of that. I made that point clear in the Mayor to you, to anybody publicly and privately that's ever asked. Now people can misrepresent my position only why there's not much I can do about it. I've also been, as you know, the only one who's been an advocate and working to get a positive resolution of the issue. Speaker 7 00:25:49 Yeah. Which I appreciate. But my under, just quickly and I'll stop, I'll be done. It would've made sense, and I've said this before for the, for you and and other council people to come talk to residents, not just people who live 200 feet away, not wait and not allow them just to send a notification 10 days before final approval to people within 200 feet. Does this affects thousands of several thousand people? I believe in the heights, Speaker 6 00:26:24 Tony. I I Speaker 7 00:26:26 Does he get three Speaker 8 00:26:27 Minutes'? Get three minutes Speaker 7 00:26:28 With resident would be good. Does he Speaker 8 00:26:30 Get, does he three minutes or doesn't he get three Speaker 6 00:26:33 Minutes in that whole area? They weren't a home, but I would, I knocked on every single, I talked to many of them Speaker 7 00:26:38 Before this thing was done. You, you talked to, you came down my screen because Speaker 6 00:26:43 I to you before. Speaker 7 00:26:44 No, I'm saying before the, when this project was being considered and up before the planning board, perhaps talking to Speaker 0 00:26:52 Residents, give about 20 seconds. Speaker 7 00:26:53 Something Speaker 0 00:26:54 To you Speaker 9 00:26:55 Mitigated Speaker 7 00:26:55 Some of the anxiety. I don't, I I I agree. Okay. Last quick question. I still haven't seen any work going on across the street for the Harba Scientific. I did speak to the general manager. He said they had a problem with a contractor, but they did something in the fall, cleaned it up a bit, planted a few things, nothing since then, except they were gonna do it in the spring. Nothing past spring is June and I have a nice view of their building, which I'm not supposed to have. So I would appre and I've called Henry Hinterstein, I have not gotten calls back. And I would appreciate if the Township followed through on its own ordinance that says you'll maintain a visual buffer between field. Mr. Wa Speaker 9 00:27:44 Thank Speaker 0 00:27:44 I'll, I'll let Tim be answer and Tim vote. Speaker 9 00:27:47 Rise to tomorrow. Speaker 0 00:27:49 Yeah. Alright. Alright. Thank you. Thank you Mr Wa Thank Speaker 7 00:27:52 You. Speaker 0 00:27:53 Are there any other comments or questions from the public at this time? He's sent to the podium. State your name and address. You agree? Minutes. Speaker 9 00:28:02 Good evening, Rick Ross Sherman Sway. Good evening. Speaker 0 00:28:06 Mr. Ross. Speaker 9 00:28:06 We're talking about an ongoing problem with the trucks on Sherman Mond. And he told you on the subject of children safety sake, the parents came and have the kids walk on the street. There's no sidewalks on the street. It's two blocks long and you swear to the beginning of a John's truck stop or I'm talking 18 wheelers. Not until I get BS trucks. We had no, you know where I know where're a stepchild because of the fact that one side, the Middlesex one side, the sc, nothing gets done. Zero. And it's not because of the ongoing service that trucks are going. These are trucks that are always on South Avenue and there's a viable alternative South Avenue to Lincoln Boulevard to Cedar Lane to path, possibly time they get 2 87. Those trucks don't do that. Taking that shirt. But actually north and south rambling, Speaker 0 00:28:58 Mr. Bro. So we'll take, you said they're coming from South Avenue? Speaker 9 00:29:02 South Avenue. I, that's industrial. I don't live on industrial own street. You Speaker 0 00:29:06 Live on Sherman. I know Sher Sherman is between you like cut through. Speaker 9 00:29:11 That's thing for the cut all day and all night. Five o'clock in the morning on 50 Howard send the trucks. I called them. A couple of the other neighbors called 'em nothing today. They're still getting down. Speaker 0 00:29:22 So thank, thank you. We, we appreciate Speaker 9 00:29:24 You. But what's in next? What should I do for the next seven? I'm talking to other people. Well Speaker 6 00:29:27 Let me, I don't, I'm not that think I know street, but I'm not sure. And unfortunately the mayor's at another meeting. The Mayor knows every street in the whole town. Well there is potentially, I'm not sure where they're all coming from, but there's potential resolution of just making the light traffic that the issue. I don't, I don't know sitting here, I'm trying to think about exactly what's there or not there. I don't know that there's an impediment to doing that. As long as there's another commercial route we can that Well, Speaker 0 00:29:55 And it sounds like it's two eight, I think it's 2 87 in terms of what you were Well Speaker 9 00:29:59 That's using, you know, they're going down North Road to get to South Ed after where all the businesses Speaker 0 00:30:05 Are. Speaker 9 00:30:05 And it's not, like I said, it's not a one deal thing that because of the detours, the same trucks day every day. I mean, if you want pictures, I, I'll, I'll sit out in front. Speaker 0 00:30:15 Exactly. It sounds they have Speaker 9 00:30:17 Ride the bike. Speaker 0 00:30:18 You need to Tim, can you just make note of it? Falls up to the chief. We'll do the traffic, traffic count out there. Speaker 9 00:30:25 Can I tell my neighbor? Speaker 0 00:30:27 It should be, I think it's a residential on that street. No, we using it as a C room. So Mr. Mr. Rossey, if you could just give Mr. Dacy your phone number and we'll, we'll get back to you. Okay. Right now, you know. Yeah, it's fine. It's fine. Any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Good evening. My name is Tony Ann Vanderveer and I live at 92 Stratton Street South here tonight in reference to 98 Stratton Street South. It was currently sold under sheriff sale. Is that close the firehouse? Yes it is. Yeah. It works for me. Rural area. Okay. Well I'm here to tell you that I'm very upset with the conditions of the house it was being lived in without electricity for three years. Speaker 0 00:31:33 The current owners decided to purchase this house site unseen. And I feel very badly for them because I don't think they knew what they were getting into. The previous owner was a hoarder, apparently. He, the new owners took the entire contents out of the house and threw it in the backyard and threw it on the driveway. Good. Now I can tell you that I have seen rats when walking my dogs, the mosquitoes, you cannot leave your house before a dusk because you will get ated by the mosquitoes. And last night, for the first time I tried to eat out on my patio where I had flies the size of dimes flying into my food. So I need to know, is there a timeline on when these new owners can fix this house because it's making us physically sick. There's water in the basement. The new owners asked my husband to borrow our generator so they could pump out the three feet of water in the basement. Basement. They're Speaker 6 00:32:39 Not in your are they? Speaker 0 00:32:40 No, they, you. It's, you can't live in it. It sounds like it's a public nuisance at, at, at this point in time. So what we'll do is we'll, we'll reach out to them, right. And they'll have an, excuse me, an opportunity to fix the situation. And if they don't right, in certain cases we may have to go in and do it and then we'll go back to them. Well they do have a dumpster. They do actually now a second dumpster was delivered today. They haven't switched out the dumpster that was delivered, I think it was May 29th. It's still there. I don't know if there's an ordinance on how long you can keep the dumpster in your driveway. The mold smell. You cannot even walk outside without getting hit with mold. Yeah, Speaker 6 00:33:20 We just say I I, within the last two weeks I drove by and showed the Mayor of the house and I spoke to the zoning officer who about it. And that house has been a problem for a long time, but it's now considerably worse. So Speaker 0 00:33:44 Much worse. So, so they're gonna get an opportunity, but then they'll probably get a fine, Speaker 6 00:33:49 I think they have been already, do they Speaker 0 00:33:50 Not have electricity? Is that what you're saying? No, there's, there's no electricity. He lived in the house with no electricity, no plumbing, nothing for three years until January 1st where he was carted out within by an ambulance. Now we have a new owner. Right. The new owners bought it on the sheriff's sale. So there were Turkey vultures living in the front in the upstairs. Yes. It's, it's not a good situation. And I have two children. I know my neighbors have small children. Right. This is not a healthy environment. Speaker 6 00:34:24 My impression when I took a close look at it, but it's about two weeks ago, was that I, I was uncertain as to whether, I don't think ask him be saved effect. Speaker 0 00:34:33 Well it's my understanding that they're going to gut the house and flip it. How, I don't know. But in the meantime, they have to get rid of the garbage and everything else. It sounds like. Speaker 6 00:34:44 I Okay. Speaker 0 00:34:45 So we'll, we'll definitely. Did you have another comment speaker before? Speaker 6 00:34:48 No, I I, I, that house has been pump for a long time, but I, I, I looked at it and I was there prepared. I showed it 'cause I'd been there, we'd been, I'd been there recently and looked at it and had somebody complained about it and I went, I went over and physically looked at it and we, we just need to take a more aggressive approach. Speaker 0 00:35:07 Yep. And we will. I would really appreciate it. Not a problem. Thank you. Speaker 6 00:35:11 98 Stratton, Speaker 0 00:35:14 Stratton Street, south Sound. Hi, my name's Christina Greg. I live at 97 Hancock Road in Piscataway. And I'm not going resound everything that my neighbor, Tony Ann said. Basically we just both came here to kind of support each other and let you know the situation on else Speaker 6 00:35:32 Side. Speaker 0 00:35:33 I'm on the other side. So his backyard is my backyard. We touch together. So it is, it's an unsightly situation. I kind of started a couple weeks ago and had all my notes as far as reaching out to Buddy Walker. I reached out to the mayor's office, I reached out to the health department, I spoke with a woman named Kelly. Everyone kind of came together and they did approach the owners. There was a, a container delivered and the owner began to throw some trash. So basically, I'm just alerting you again that it's really an unfair situation. I did know the previous owner, Kermit and I felt bad for him knowing that he was basically a homeless man living in a home. I kind of feel that unfortunately inviting me that I didn't perhaps report him sooner, but I did feel badly that, you know, it was his best interest. Speaker 0 00:36:23 Perhaps maybe I should have or shouldn't have done that besides the point. So now I'm just requesting that it is really looked into and pressured that these owners, when I spoke briefly with the health department, the health department kind of told me, you know, this is more of the zoning situation. Maybe you should just talk to the owner. Maybe you should just kind of deal with it on your own. And I kind of thought if someone's just throwing trash in their yard, they're really not interested in the best interest of the, the neighborhood. If your interest is just to purchase a home and flip it and do it in that content, that's really not to the best interest of the community dumpster either. No. They, they actually delivered something. They just put a few things, but it really is not doing, it's not really, it's really not. Since it's been delivered two weeks ago, the condition of the home is not greatly improved at in any means. So thank you for coming this evening. And it's unfortunate, but We'll, we're definitely gonna follow a by Speaker 3 00:37:20 Right now. Just, just so both neighbors know. So what happens is that the, when we send out Buddy Walker or other inspector, they'll normally issue violations the homeowner under log it's 10 days to, to fix the violation. At that time it's reinspected. So like tomorrow he's gonna go out and do everything he did 10 days ago. And then if Jake didn't do what they were supposed to do, then we issue a summ inside and go to middle school court. Speaker 0 00:37:49 Yeah, I know he was Speaker 3 00:37:50 Issued meant that, that they decide not to do anything. We can get an order for us to go in and do the cleanup and then, then MRT hires a contractor to go in and do it and then put a lien on behalf. So hopefully I'll, I'll talk to buddy first thing in the morning. Hopefully we're at that stage at least now where summers will go out and that usually, if the homeowner's ever dealt with this in any other town, that usually spurs into action because it's going through this report, getting fine is really, is really a pain. You're better off just doing, you're supposed to do. Speaker 0 00:38:22 Right. My last quick question, and I don't know if, if, you know, when you sell a house like a sheriff's sale, I, I was told that the outside of the perimeter of the property was inspected apparently by the inspector, but that the inside of the home was not because he felt for his own health that he didn't wanna go into the home and inspect the home. So I just feel for the purchasers that they don't even know what they're getting into. That the interior of the home was dangerous. Yeah, that would be Wouldn't been the Speaker 10 00:38:51 County. Yeah. Speaker 7 00:38:52 The town wouldn't Speaker 10 00:38:53 Have done the inspection. Speaker 0 00:38:54 Yeah, we didn't sell it would be from the county. The county. Yeah. So we, I feel for him because there's, it's dangerous. I mean, but just so you know. No, we appreciate you coming. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Can I, of course you Speaker 7 00:39:10 Can. My name's Scott Ley and I live in 97 Hancock Road. Evening. Mr. The only kind, good evening. The only concern that I have to, or one of the concerns I have with this property is as things pro progress with the property, that the Township would do proper inspection because it is like my wife and my neighbor said, it is a safety issue. The mold smell can't be good for anybody, number one. And the condition of the house from the previous owner and from what other people told us it's water has been getting into this house continually. So wood being structured is a very critical, crucial thing. So I would really ask the Township to, you know, make sure they have eyes on, which sounds like you guys are, and that as they progress with the project, that things are structurally done well just for the safety of, you know, the new owners or the owners that are gonna stay there. But that's all we ask. Speaker 0 00:40:08 Thank you Mr. Bu. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Any other comments or questions from the public at this time? Speaker 10 00:40:17 Good evening, members of the council. My name is Charles Kratovil. Good Speaker 0 00:40:21 Evening Mr. Granville. I'm Speaker 10 00:40:22 A president of New Brunswick. I'm the editor of community newspaper there called New Brunswick today. Also candidate for Mayor of the great city of New Brunswick. I'm here tonight 'cause I have a public safety question. I wanted to ask who the public safety director is and if they're here tonight, Speaker 0 00:40:39 The public director. Mayor Mayor is not here Speaker 10 00:40:42 Right now. I heard the Mayor is at another meeting. Can I get a little more information about where, what what other meeting he's at tonight? Speaker 0 00:40:51 Yeah, I'm not sure exactly where he is, but is there something that you need? Speaker 10 00:40:55 Yes. Perhaps it's the police chief here. Speaker 0 00:40:58 No. Speaker 10 00:40:59 Okay. So I, I'd like to hear from the counsel on May 15th, Piscataway police officer Todd Ritter pleaded guilty to assaulting a suspect who was handcuffed in his custody in a Township police vehicle. Also pleaded guilty to falsifying records. And I, as a journalist, been reaching out to Mayor and have not gotten any comment from him. I wanted to ask if any members of the council have any comment on the guilty plea of Officer Ritter, Speaker 0 00:41:30 Your Honor. So I'll just defer to the council at this, our legal counsel, Mr. Baker, or Speaker 10 00:41:35 If it is an ongoing investigation, we're not gonna comment on it. It's not ongoing. He admitted his guilt and it's my understanding he's resigned from the force. Can anybody confirm that he's resigned in accordance with that plea agreement? Speaker 9 00:41:47 I, I, I can't, Speaker 6 00:41:49 There's, let me say Charlie, there, there's either active or contemplated civil litigation involving the incident and there's potential litigation with respect to the officer and his pension. So it would be unfair for us. Speaker 0 00:42:08 Right. So let's just, yeah, let's just let, we're gonna leave it as no comment because if there's something under litigation, I'd rather just leave it as Speaker 9 00:42:13 That. Speaker 10 00:42:15 Okay. So when you say active or contemplated, has there been litigation filed or, or Speaker 0 00:42:20 So at this, at this time based Speaker 6 00:42:21 Claim notice Speaker 9 00:42:22 There's been a Speaker 10 00:42:23 Notice tort claim filed. Okay. Thank you for confirming that. I, I'll just say I saw two videos. I saw one video of the arrest and a video of the assault. And both were very disturbing. And I hope that the counsel and the police chief and the Mayor are as disturbed as I am. 'cause law enforcement is a very serious responsibility and, and people who abuse their powers there really hurt the profession, but also hurt the relationship with the community. And so, I, I just trust Speaker 9 00:42:51 Me, Speaker 0 00:42:51 I Speaker 6 00:42:52 I I don't wanna overstep the doesn't He terminated. Speaker 0 00:42:55 So at this time, what I'm He resigned? Yeah, he resigned. Speaker 9 00:42:59 Resigned. He was forced to resign. Okay. Speaker 0 00:43:01 Trust me. I know. I, I believe it's a police officers. I hold him to highest d to esteem too. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments or questions? Speaker 9 00:43:18 Good evening Council. Good evening. How are you? Good. Good, good sir there. Appreciate that. Good. Speaker 6 00:43:29 I wanna Speaker 9 00:43:29 Thank, thank you Curtis. Thank you Speaker 6 00:43:30 Very much Speaker 9 00:43:31 For, Speaker 0 00:43:32 Let, just let Mr. Grs say his name Speaker 9 00:43:34 For the record. 1750 West third. Speaker 0 00:43:37 Thank you Mr. Gr. Speaker 6 00:43:38 Let me just say, Curtis, I I appreciate your both public and private support for our efforts on, on sensible gun safety in getaway. I know you attended an event and I was honored to have you there Speaker 9 00:43:56 Doing what need be done pass. I want a good guy, but I'm here for my Haywood choir again. That's right. You know, down to business. Yeah. Funny. But I need to know what we going receive this thing because I think now Okay. Heard was going. Okay. Tim, do you have any idea when that's gonna be received? I'll, I'll ask Guy. You ask guy. Nah, I ask you first. So he talk to Guy. If ask Speaker 3 00:44:31 I'll ask. Guy Speaker 0 00:44:32 Grabs a call. Speaker 9 00:44:33 Nah, I'll come to he'll ask, he'll come. Speaker 0 00:44:35 Okay. Speaker 9 00:44:38 Just I'm talking. I need to know what's up with the church property. Property on Walnut that we spoke about a couple months ago. Speaker 3 00:44:49 Yeah. We're still attempting to find the ownership work right now. Okay. As I explained to you Speaker 9 00:44:57 The issue with the house that was down on Second Street when I asked him to put more top soil in and he said we do, we're going to put it in the charge. Where are we at? The house needs more filled there. The house. The house on second Street that was demolished the Mayor. And you also said he was going give to finish it. We was going finish it and put a We need, Speaker 0 00:45:29 Yeah. Can we check on that one? Tim? Okay. Thank you. Speaker 9 00:45:34 They redid second Street with LG block. Why did we not do the other side that we, on the, we did the one side and who picks what streets to get paid was fourth Street was easy to fix. Why did that one get done and this one not? Speaker 0 00:45:57 So are you sitting the side that got the Belgium box is in another town? I in the scatter. Speaker 9 00:46:02 Oh, okay. But I'm saying the other side way too. So why did we just do one side? Speaker 0 00:46:10 Honest, I'm not familiar with that one too. Do you know anything? The question could be that one side needed it. Yeah. The other Speaker 9 00:46:16 Neither side that curve. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:46:18 Curtis, Joe, you know, you always talk to Joe. Joe was their engineer. He comes up with, he comes up with a recommended list for, for us to do Mason on a whole lot of criteria. So I can ask him, but you can also do, I know you're there a lot. Just ask him. And Speaker 9 00:46:34 He Speaker 3 00:46:36 Probably very simply, he probably includes utility work or the PS c pgs got a enormous amount of work that they're doing around town. So it might be any of those. But I'll ask the next. You see us? Speaker 9 00:46:48 I heard it was just heard, huh? Yes. Speaker 0 00:46:50 What street? Gimme the exact street. Maybe Speaker 9 00:46:53 The second street. Second Street. The second street. They from the corner or second up to, I think it's Oak right next side. The install. They installed building blocks. But I wanted to know why they didn't do the other side, which is still was was it Speaker 0 00:47:09 Dug up by a utility company previously? Speaker 9 00:47:12 No. What's, what's going to happen is that's really technically a county room and they're going to repave it and I think if I heard correctly the Mayor made a deal to put the curb in and they going wait for Mill. So, okay, I understand County road, but why are we putting block curbing in there in the beginning if we're not gonna do both sides? Speaker 0 00:47:34 So we'll have to, Mr. Grabs, we'll have to get back to you on that one. I know. Speaker 9 00:47:41 Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you Mr. Speaker 0 00:47:43 Grabs. Any other comments or questions at this time from the public? Can I have a motion Speaker 9 00:47:48 To adjourn? Motion? Speaker 0 00:47:50 All in favor? Second. All in favor? Speaker 9 00:47:53 Aye. Speaker 0 00:47:54 Adjourn. Thank you. We move on to the agenda portion of Speaker 9 00:47:59 The meeting. Speaker 0 00:48:01 At this time, I'd like to call agenda meeting to Speaker 9 00:48:03 Court. Speaker 0 00:48:05 Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided as required of the chapter 2 31 PL 1975, specifying the time, date, location, and to the extent known the agenda by the posting. A copy of the notice on the municipal building municipal court and the two municipal library votes and boards, providing a copy to the officially newspapers of the Township. And by filing a copy of the office of the clerk in accordance to occasion by the clerk, which will be entered into the minutes. Ms. Cedar, can you please call the role Mr. Buller? Here. Mrs. Cahill? Here. Mr. Kahan? Here. Mrs. Lombardi? Here. Speaker 9 00:48:34 Mr. Shaw? Mr. Here. Mr. Speaker 0 00:48:38 Here you please stand. Speaker 9 00:48:42 I under justice Speaker 0 00:48:55 Identify coordinates on first reading Divine Ordinance for Human Cultural Arts Center Project. Are there any other comments or questions at this time? Item number six, the resolution authorizing award of bid rebid municipal building, the HVAC renovation, a bid opening on June 14th, 2018. Are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number seven, a resolution authorizing renewal of liquor license. Any comments or questions at this time? Item number eight, resolution authorizing professional engineering services only Brunswick Road with improvements not to exceed $175,667. Are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number nine, resolution authorizing professional engineering services for Second Avenue Road improvements not to exceed $51,150. Interest in we're talking, we were just talking about Second Avenue here, so I don't know if Mr. Grs exactly. Speaker 9 00:50:03 Council p we gonna highlight the reason why we didn't block. 'cause that's Speaker 0 00:50:07 Excuse, excuse me. I just want Mr. grs, I just noticed that here on the agenda, the second avenue is listed so the Mayor because Speaker 9 00:50:15 It's a different style on side of the street Speaker 0 00:50:17 That that's why I asked the question is in the same town. That was my concern. So that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure. That's why I said lemme just hold Speaker 9 00:50:26 It. Second Avenue or second Street, south second Street. That's the agenda is Avenue. Okay. Which is another street we're gonna do. That's correct. Okay. I'm just, there's a second Avenue number nine is which one? Well, this is the engineering contract for second Adam. Second Adam, Mr. Gross, Speaker 0 00:50:49 Right? Right. Speaker 9 00:50:51 Possible that's correct. Speaker 0 00:50:53 Thank you for clarifying Speaker 9 00:50:54 That. Speaker 0 00:50:56 So this is south second that Mr. Gross was? Speaker 9 00:50:58 That's correct. Okay. Speaker 0 00:51:00 Item number 10, a resolution authorizing 2018 solicitor's license. Are there any other comments or questions at this time? Item number 11, a resolution authorizing acceptance of qualifications and rates and appointments of of professionals. Any other comments or question? Item number 12, resolution authorizing Chapter 1 59 fiscal year 2018 Clean Communities grant for 90 3003 69 and 35 cents. Any comments or at this time? Item number 13 of resolution designated property, commonly known as 88 Centennial Avenue and Area in need of redevelopment. Are there any comments or questions at this time? Item number 14, a motion to accept the Report of Court's account for May, 2018. Any comments or questions? Speaker 9 00:51:56 Yes. Speaker 0 00:51:56 Item number 15, a motion to accept the report in Division of revenue from May, 2018? Yes. Item number 16, a motion to receive and enter into minutes disbursements for the month of May, 2018. Any comments, questions? Item number 17, announcements and comments from officials at this time. Mr. Willard, Speaker 9 00:52:19 Any comments? Not at this time. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:52:20 Thank you Ms. Ga. Speaker 9 00:52:22 Not at this time. Thank you Mr. Cahn. No, I have no comments. Speaker 0 00:52:26 Ms. Lombardi, Speaker 9 00:52:28 Happy Father's Day Speaker 0 00:52:29 To all those fathers Speaker 9 00:52:30 Out there on two Speaker 11 00:52:34 24th, there is a and at Speaker 9 00:52:38 Temple. Speaker 0 00:52:39 Repeat the date again. Speaker 9 00:52:40 24th. Speaker 11 00:52:41 June 10:00 AM at Glad Temple. There is International Yoga Day. So everybody welcome. 10 to 1230. Speaker 9 00:52:48 Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:52:50 I send my daughter over there. Exactly. Mr. rn? Speaker 9 00:52:55 No comment. Speaker 0 00:52:56 Mayor, any comments? Speaker 9 00:52:58 I wanna thank the Elks Lodge for having a flag day ceremony. Good to see you. Flag day ceremony was a nice event. So Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts participating in Speaker 0 00:53:10 Appropriate tie Tim. Any comments or question? Counsel? I would like to wish my father and the father's in the town a happy Father's Day at this time. I'll open it to the public. Are there any comments or questions in this time? Short time, please come to the podium. State your name and address for three minutes of Speaker 7 00:53:39 Wild 22 50 20 Field Avenue North. Yes, I see the 88 Centennial Avenue. And I'm wondering is there any contemplation of what will be done there? 'cause I certainly hope it won't be any more truck warehouse in the area. Speaker 0 00:53:56 Okay. Steve, Speaker 7 00:53:57 It's sounding to me like we're getting the truck warehouse at the old GE healthcare site and that's something maybe somebody signs on the dotted line fairly soon. And I really think we have enough truck warehouses for health and residence, but I don't believe this one is right up and against commercial, residential property, but it could be. So I really think truck ware houses this up against residential property is a horrible idea. Thank Speaker 0 00:54:27 You. Sure. Thank you. Any other comments or questions of the public at this time? Sure. Please state your name, address. Evening Speaker 10 00:54:35 Once again. Charles Granville meeting. Mr. Gran project resident entered New Brunswick today, candidate for Mayor of the great city of New Brunswick. I did want to now that the, the Mayor of public safety directors here wanted to give him an opportunity to comment on the resignation of Officer Todd Riter. Speaker 0 00:54:52 So Mayor at this time, one of the things you had said, just so that you're aware, because this might be under litigation. That's right. And, and Mr. Speaker 12 00:54:59 Kratovil knows that also. And the fact that the matter is, is that anytime the police matters that major, it's dealt with the county prosecutor's office Speaker 0 00:55:06 If he knows that also. Okay. So we'll just leave, we'll just leave it at that. Speaker 10 00:55:10 Okay. Thank you. And, and so two weeks ago I did run into the Mayor in downtown New Brunswick and tried to ask him the, the very same question and he responded in a way that bothered me. He said, I believe I don't talk to guys who are stalkers of women. And I, you Speaker 7 00:55:33 Know, that's fine. Speaker 10 00:55:34 I basically just wanna say that I think you got some bad information and you know, that's okay. That happens sometimes. And I, I wanted to extend, you know, as much of an olive branch as I can to you, sir, to let you know that if I do win I want to work together with you and this council, this gallaway has been new Brunswick's neighbor and will be new Brunswick's neighbor for hundreds of years to come. And if I may ask, where did you get your information? Speaker 0 00:56:06 So, so what, what I think let's just leave that comment as is you actually, it's Speaker 10 00:56:13 A public comment. Yeah. I would just like to give the Mayor a chance to, to explain where you guys information. If he doesn't wanna say that's, that's Speaker 0 00:56:19 Fine. I'm gonna defer to our council, please. Speaker 9 00:56:22 The council meeting. The Mayor doesn't need to. Exactly. Yes, exactly. Thank you. Question. Be afraid to, Speaker 10 00:56:28 Okay. The Mayor doesn't have to defend his remarks if he doesn't want to, but I, I do want to say that that was bad information and it's not accurate. You can feel free to, to speak to me. You don't have to, you know, have reasons why you don't wanna speak with me. I'm, I'm always going to listen to what you have to say and, and treat you fairly. And I hope that you'll do the same for me. Mr. Mayor. Thank Speaker 9 00:56:52 You. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:56:55 Any other comments or questions from the public? Speaker 9 00:56:59 Okay, 1750. Good evening. Good evening. Mayor. I just wanted to know, isn't there, part of that street is the msca, yes or no? Maybe I'm wrong. Speaker 12 00:57:16 There's three Miss cows in involved scattering did on the play field. Speaker 9 00:57:21 Okay. The question was again, how come we didn't, the part that belonged to the scattering, how come we didn't block that in that other side? You Speaker 12 00:57:30 Only did the parcels that are in Piscataway, but the two block radius Speaker 9 00:57:35 In front of the hall, this the other side of the street. I know you've been in know, but the other side of the street you're telling me is green nationality. Right Now, how much is that going to the carrier? Hundred feet, two her? Speaker 12 00:57:49 Depends if you're starting all from lock out in the next Plainfield. Speaker 9 00:57:52 Okay, I understand. Go down Speaker 12 00:57:55 Two blocks and then it goes partial Elle then, then the skyway, and then the back half of the street's, Elle. Speaker 9 00:58:03 Okay, let's let's put it right there across the street from the house that with the march that's 17. Speaker 12 00:58:12 Curtis, we're not putting curbing in our corporate areas. We are just doing residential. Oh. Speaker 9 00:58:22 But that's not the I'll Thank you. Thank you Mr. Murphy. Any Speaker 0 00:58:29 Other comments or questions from the public at this time? Do we have a motion to adjourn? So the second. Second. All in favor Speaker 9 00:58:40 Meetings? Adjourn.