Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on April 8 2021


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Speaker 0     00:00:00    Cute zoning board of adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted on the bulletin board in the municipal building notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the courier news and the Star-Ledger will the clerk please call the role  
Speaker 1     00:00:19    Mr. Zimmerman here. Mr. Taylor, Mr. Weissman, Mr. Blount. I know he's here. Mr. Blount. Can you not hear me? I see him. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando here, Mr. Ali and chairman  
Speaker 0     00:00:49    Here, will everyone please stand for the salute to the flag?  
Speaker 1     00:00:55    Joined the meeting,  
Speaker 0     00:00:56    The flag of the United States of America and justice. Mr. Conneely, are there any changes to tonight's agenda?  
Speaker 2     00:01:13    Yes, we have two changes to tonight's agenda. The Hutchinson application on Elizabeth avenue will be carried to April 22nd with no further notice by the applicant  application on Emmett court is carried to April 22nd. They must advertise in the newspaper. They do not need to send recertified mail. Those are all the changes I have. Got it.  
Speaker 0     00:01:36    All right, let's proceed to number five 20 dash a CB dash 60 V Shoba Chopra  
Speaker 2     00:01:43    Shoba Chopra present. You show up a Chopra present. Yes. Okay. Uh, I need to swear you in, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God? Yes. Okay. Could you explain to the board what's changed since the last time you were here?  
Speaker 3     00:02:10    Yeah, my, um, architect Marta will speak for me.  she's on the call.  
Speaker 2     00:02:20    Who's the architect present? Yes, I'm here. Now your name and address please?  
Speaker 4     00:02:24    Um, Martha brass, Yvonne, um, excuse me, uh, five 70 north fourth street, Elizabeth New Jersey.  
Speaker 2     00:02:32    And I believe you were sworn in at the last hearing you remain sworn in to tell the truth. Could you tell the board what has changed in the plan since the last time you were here?  
Speaker 4     00:02:41    So what we did, um, was condensed the, the addition, um, down from 1500 square feet, it was 1,504 square feet. We brought it down to 1,984 square feet. Um, we are maintaining both a side yard, so the 15 foot side yards on each side, and one second. And as far as the, uh, the front yard, the shed is, uh, that was, is at the front, uh, right now is going to be removed. And, um, the shed in the back, which is also, um, at the moment beyond the, the required side yard will also be removed so that we will be within the requirements of the side yard, um, with the reduction to 1,184 square feet, we are still a little bit above the 20%. Um, we are at immature offended, 21.4%, whereas before we were at 23.3%. So those are the basic changes. So, um, we've also reduced the number of balances from seven to five  
Speaker 0     00:04:12    Henry. Do you want to address some issues on the sir? Yeah,  
Speaker 5     00:04:16    No. I took a look at the, uh, the revised application and, uh, I feel that the applicant, the applicant did a nice job in, in working, um, working towards getting the application to a manageable, um, manageable, you know, addition size where the coverage now I think is reasonable at 21.4. Um, they, they accomplished a few things by eliminating the dilapidated, uh, portion of the shag. They eliminated that side yard bearings for that accessory structure. They eliminated the shed in the front. So, uh, overall I think they, they heated the advice of the board and I think of my report and, uh, and revise the application, I think in a manner that's, uh, that's now acceptable, uh, or that I think you, you, you can look at it more favorably than, uh, when it, when  
Speaker 0     00:05:14    Good, thank you. Anyone else on the board have any questions for this applicant hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public portion. Anyone, the public portion of any questions about this applicant will this application just Buckley  
Speaker 4     00:05:33    I'm looking, I don't  
Speaker 0     00:05:35    See anyone. Nope. Public portions closed. Mr. Keneally where they get specific, um, conditions to this, or is it just based on no basic basically that the board sent them back to the drawing board and said, come back with a smaller plan. And they did would that I'm going to make an offer to, uh, except this application was made by me and said who second it, Mr. , Mr. , uh, Ms. Book, we call the role,  
Speaker 1     00:06:10    Um, just real quick for the board, Mr. Wasteman was, were you at this meeting, Steve  
Speaker 0     00:06:15    Original place for the chopper? Correct.  
Speaker 1     00:06:18    Okay. I couldn't remember. I apologize. Want to make sure if I do the vote? Thank you. Sorry, Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Wasteman. Yes. Mr. . I think we lost him. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Mirando? Yes. And chairman Cahill. Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:06:40    Ms. Chopra, your application's been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and send a copy of that document to you. Don't need to be present for the next meeting.  
Speaker 0     00:06:50    Thank you, Ms. Chopra. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, guys. Number six. You're welcome. Have a great night now. Item number six, 20 days, ZB dish 84 V. Mohamad and Morel has psyllium. Did I kill that name? Yes.  
Speaker 6     00:07:13    Can you hear us? Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:07:14    Yes. Yes. Are you both going to be testifying? Yes. I need to swear both of you in, could you each raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth one at a time? Could I have your name and address please?  
Speaker 6     00:07:29    Mohammad Accellion 1 67 Middlesex avenue, Piscataway, New Jersey, 0 8 8 5 4  
Speaker 2     00:07:41     present? Yes. Okay. And could I have your name and address please? Also  
Speaker 7     00:07:49    Address is the same. My name is Mariella. Excellent.  
Speaker 2     00:07:54    Thank you. Could one of you explained to the board what you'd like to do here?  
Speaker 7     00:07:59    My husband.  
Speaker 6     00:08:00    Okay. Um, we are trying, uh, we moved the, uh, phone porch from the house and we're going to build a product on the front. We're going to move the house back eight feet. And we're going to add in addition to the bag for that eight feet, the eight feet to the back. And we're going to build the M two story addition.  
Speaker 2     00:08:27    Have you had an opportunity to look at Mr. Henner? Steen's April 7th, 2021 report. Can you comply with the site impact? Uh, uh, numbers one through five?  
Speaker 7     00:08:39    Yes.  
Speaker 0     00:08:44    Anyone else on the board have any questions? I'm sorry, Henry. Did you want to just anything specifically or their compliance? Okay. Anyone else on the board have any questions for this applicant? Hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public portion, public portion. And he will want to ask this applicant, any questions about this application or  
Speaker 2     00:09:03    Make any comments on  
Speaker 0     00:09:04    The application or make any comments on the application? Uh, no, sir. Okay. Public portions closed. I make a motion to approve this application out a second. Okay, Laura, please.  
Speaker 1     00:09:22    Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Wasteman. Yes. Mr. Blount. We lost him. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Mirando? Yes. Mr. Ali. Yes. And chairman Cahill.  
Speaker 0     00:09:39    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:09:40    Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will send a copy of that document to you, but you'll need that document to get your building permits.  
Speaker 0     00:09:51    Thank you very much. Good luck guys.  
Speaker 1     00:09:54    Welcome. Have a good day.  
Speaker 0     00:09:57    Let's move along to number 7 21 dash Z B dash zero eight V. Samantha Rodriguez.  
Speaker 2     00:10:09    Ms. Rodriguez. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Yes. The name and address please. Amanda Rodriguez.  
Speaker 8     00:10:17    It's 25 locust avenue, Piscataway  
Speaker 2     00:10:20    New Jersey. Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you'd like to do here?  
Speaker 8     00:10:23    I'd like to add a 12 by 24 above ground pool to the side yard of my property.  
Speaker 0     00:10:42    Henry, did you have any questions or issues?  
Speaker 1     00:10:48    You're muted, sir. Henry you're muted.  
Speaker 5     00:10:55    Sorry about that. Um, yeah, I'm trying to find that report. I don't see it, but I do recall it. Um, that was the, the pool sort of back corner of the property. My only recommendation would be is could you slide that pool just so that it meets the 10 foot rear yard setbacks too. It's a little bit further in the back. I think you had it 15 feet off of the rear yard. Um, so  
Speaker 8     00:11:18    Slide it further  
Speaker 5     00:11:19    Back. Yeah. So that it complies with the 10, no further, no closure intend to the rear yard. But what it is is because it's on your side yard and it's less than 10 feet from the side yard. I don't want to impact the side neighbor more than, than you need to. So if it stays 10 feet, which is the requirement for the rear line and you slide it back a little bit, that'll pull it a little bit further away from the neighboring property to the style, because it's closer to that house. And then I think my only other comment was maybe adding some, uh, some evergreen corner evergreens on that side yard to help buffer it a little bit from the neighboring property. Like some Columbia arborvitae your upright Juniper or something of that nature,  
Speaker 1     00:11:59    Adding that evergreen up against the fence.  
Speaker 5     00:12:01    Yes. Between the fence and the, um, and the pool. Cause those are higher than the fence. Yeah.  
Speaker 0     00:12:09    That's just answers a buffer to your neighbors Smith. Absolutely. Awesome. Well, if you're going to comply with that, then anyone else on the board have any questions for this applicant hearing none would open it to the public. Anyone in the public portion have any questions for this application or any statements chairman? Well, public portion is closed. I'd make a motion to approve this application with, with the changes that, um, and we made to the applicant. Please call the roll or  
Speaker 1     00:12:44    Mr. Patel second. Yes. Okay. Thank you Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Weissman? Yes. Mr. Blancas back. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Ms. Mr. Mirando? Yes. And chairman K hill.  
Speaker 0     00:13:07    Uh, yes. Was Rodriguez.  
Speaker 2     00:13:10    Application has been approved as amended. We will memorialize it in a written document in our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We'll mail a copy to you and you'll need that for your building permits. Thank  
Speaker 1     00:13:19    You. Good luck,  
Speaker 0     00:13:24    Laura. Do we have a new member on the board named missed? Let's move on to number nine 20  I know you will. Uh, whale. Oh, Hamad prison. How are you, sir? How you doing, sir? Thank you for asking. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right?  
Speaker 9     00:13:50    Oh, actually, uh, I'm here representing Mr. Habad, uh, Tim arch, uh, to March from Bob Smith and associates representing the applicant and the owner while the med. Um, this is a, uh, a fence, uh, variants. We're asking for relief, uh, for two sections of the, uh,  
Speaker 0     00:14:06    Of the factory. Someone's freezing here.  
Speaker 9     00:14:12    I think that may have been, uh, you Mr. Cahill.  
Speaker 1     00:14:16    That's called quiet.  
Speaker 0     00:14:22    Okay. Well, I missed it off if you could just repeat yourself.  
Speaker 9     00:14:25    Uh, this is a, this is an application, uh, seeking relief for a fence. Um, this is a fence that is, uh, uh, being constructed, uh, out of a series of stone pillars that has a black metal fence in between, uh, those series of pillars. Uh, we're seeking relief for, uh, both, um, the height of the fence, uh, the area that's located in the front yard. Uh, and actually I'll share my screen if I may, because that might be easier to just give an example.  
Speaker 9     00:15:07    Uh, so if you see on the survey, the front area, um, shows the, uh, the pillars, uh, located here along the front, uh, and there will be a black metal fencing that is, uh, in between those pillars. The black metal fencing complies is four feet tall, which is, uh, incompliance. However, the pillars, uh, on either side of the fencing are slightly higher, therefore a 4.5, uh, eight feet tall. So just slightly taller. So we'd be asking for relief, uh, for that in addition, uh, we'd be asking for relief, um, as to, uh, the, uh, fence exceeding 50% solid material. Um, and that's because of the, uh, of the type of fence and the design of the fence, uh, because of the number of pillars. Um, it does exceed, uh, the, the 50%. Um, so I do have Mr. Hammad, uh, here who can be sworn in and we can begin testimony with him. And, uh, I'll go through Mr.  report. Um, we can swear Mr. Hammad and Mr. Hammock,  
Speaker 2     00:16:08    Would you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth?  
Speaker 11    00:16:13    Yes. Your name and address, please. Why for mining for meatless lien, this getaway. Thank you.  
Speaker 9     00:16:21    Uh, so Mr. Hamid, you've, uh, you've been, uh, owner of the property since 2014, correct. Um, and this, isn't your typical fence, I guess it's not a typical wooden or a vinyl material, uh, fence. Um, right.  
Speaker 9     00:16:37    Uh, this is, this is sort of more of a premium, uh, materials sort of a higher end, uh, fence, correct? Correct. And, uh, when we were discussing this, you, you were saying that part of the reason too, that you chose this was because of the durability and the longevity of the fence. It's gonna, it's gonna last longer, it's gonna look better. It's going to require less maintenance, is that correct? Okay. And, um, specifically, cause I know one of the comments that Mr. Henderson has and we'll get to those in a moment. One of the comments was the number of pillars, um, specifically in the front, uh, section. Um, is there a reason why you prefer the, the pillars? Um, and is there, is there any personal experience that you've had, uh, living at that home that has, uh, um, led you to want to have those, uh, those pillars in the front?  
Speaker 11    00:17:26    Exactly. In addition to the better look that it gets, it's more security for me on my family as a four or five years ago, we had an incident when a car run, uh, we had like two pillars at the entrance and a car run into one of them and it stopped it. So it it's kind of safety also in addition to the better look for the house.  
Speaker 9     00:17:53    And so this is a, you're located obviously on Mettler's lane and that's a pretty well trafficked road, correct?  
Speaker 11    00:18:00    Correct. Plus there is some people that they don't respect the laws, they do like racing. I have some videos of people raising this straight, which makes me worry a little bit about my kids being in the front yard.  
Speaker 9     00:18:15    Uh, so if I can, now, Mr. Ahmed, I'm going to, I'm going to, uh, you're familiar with Mr.  report, correct? Yes. Correct. Let me just pull that up real quick. So we can go through that. Uh, so there are four, uh, really five number paragraphs, but really for the only ones that are requesting anything, one and two are very, uh, uh, similar. So let's jump past those real quick and we'll get back to that. A number three, Mr.  indicating that the proposed fence shows pickets and he's requesting that we would remove those pickets so that there's no threat of anybody getting impaled or harmed on those. We have no issue with complying with that, correct.  
Speaker 9     00:18:55    We will, we will remove or modify defense so that there are no metal pickets taking off. Correct. Okay. And number four, Mr. Justine is asking for a right of way dedication to bring the roadway to the master plan half with the 55 feet. Um, so we, we have some conversation on that. Um, our request would be instead of a dedication that it'd be an easement, uh, for municipal purposes, which I believe is, is, uh, also commonly requested by this board in which we have certainly granted in the past on other applications, we would have no issue with doing an easement for municipal purposes. The only other issue that we have with that, um, uh, with that one concern is that, um, we don't know how far into the property, um,  
Speaker 5     00:19:38    If I could stop you, I took a look at that issue after we had our conversation. Um, and it appears that the majority of the, of the right of way that's necessary there to complete the full, uh, right of way is actually required on the opposite side of the road. Um, what we do have though on, on that side of the street is an existing 10 foot. I believe it's a sanitary sewer storm water easement that exists now in order to comply with the 110 foot master plan right of way, what we would need though is just the language of the existing easement to be modified. So that is for municipal purposes and it could be used for the roadway and not just the sanitary or storm. Um, so it's basically 10 feet and taking an existing easement already, uh, as the stormwater, or like I said, as the sanitary, I'm not sure exactly what the language was on there, but that existing easement, if you just modify it, report it with it, calling it now and municipal easement and giving the, that town, the courtesy of doing any road improvements that may be necessary within that easement, that would be the extent would be no, nothing further than that easement exists  
Speaker 9     00:20:47    There today. You read my mind, I was going to suggest if we could just make it 10 foot, that would be that certainly comply with  
Speaker 5     00:20:55    These meant for sanitary, I believe. And, uh, so it would just be a really, uh, uh, wording and rerecording, I think, of the existing,  
Speaker 9     00:21:04    Then we would absolutely be able to comply with that. The only other, the only other thing of note then is, is number one and number two, which is that the pillars being too large and mass, and it doesn't comply with that 50% open fence located within the front yard. Um, and I know Mr.  suggestion was to remove every other pillar. Um, uh, I would, I would ask the members of the board. I, I would hope that, um, uh, that they have been out to the area I've seen it. Um, the pillars are constructed now. Um, and, and as Mr. Henderson points out in his, in his staff report, these work constructed, um, uh, they're there they're present on the site right now. And, and, uh, we, we understand that we run the risk of, of, of anything that you decide at this point. Uh, having already built it without the, without getting the proper approvals beforehand.  
Speaker 9     00:21:54    Um, but I would ask, uh, the members of the board to, if they haven't to, to, to look at the property and to try to also remember what the property looked like in the past. Um, and I can, I'm going to bring up, um, Google maps, which actually has the street view of the area. Um, and the street view actually goes back to 2011. This is the street view for, sorry, let's try that again. This is the street view for 2019, uh, in front of the property. And as you can see, the, the, you know, Mr. Henderson mentioned the intent of the statute for 50% solid coverage. And, and I imagine the intent of that is that you don't want to have a solid obstruction in the front of the property. Uh, you want there to be able to be, uh, some visual sight line through the property.  
Speaker 9     00:22:46    Um, in 2019, I mean, it was overgrown, uh, and there was, there was plants in front of this. And if you go back on street view, you can actually see back as far as September, 2011, it's been that way, uh, the whole time. So I would actually pause it that if you looked at the property now, and if you looked at what was there now, it's actually a much nicer and a much more open and, uh, and a much more pleasing visual sight line, even, even with those pillars. And remember the pillars are only about four feet tall, so it's not a very large obstruction. So we would ask in with all due respect that, that you grant the variance for the existing pillars, if you were inclined not to grant it for the existing pillars, I would like to, um, delve a little deeper as to what pillars would need to be removed. Um, but before we go down that route, I guess, um, for, in the interest of time, if the board is inclined to, to grant the variances as, as it is with the conditions that we already have agreed to, um, we would need to go, we would need to delve any further into individual columns. Um, so I would defer to the board as to whether or not we would get into more discussion on that.  
Speaker 0     00:24:03    Mr. Archer, I can cut you off right there. Um, we rely heavily on the expert testimony of our engineers, and I would tell you as the chairman, I'm leaning towards, um, Henry's recommendations, uh, you might want to, uh, talk again at the risk of, of the length of this meeting. Um, you have two options. I think you can either talk about which, uh, pillars need to be removed, or you could, uh, let us come out to the site. And my board individually could take a look at the property and see what we think itself. I've been so busy lately. I've not been out to the property. I have no idea what I'm looking at. So you have an option.  
Speaker 9     00:24:44    I would, I would, I would leave that decision to Mr. Hammad then Mr. Hammad, would you, would, would it be okay if we carry this to another meeting to give the members an opportunity to  
Speaker 5     00:24:54    Mr. , let me, let me, maybe if I speak, maybe it'll make help make his decision. I mean, again, my opinion is the pillars are 24 inches by 24 inches, you know, at minimum, um, that's the size, that's not your average, you know, pillar or post for offense. And I understand the fence is 50% solid, but again, the intent is there to keep somewhat of an open, but I mean, it almost has an, you know, the effect of a commercial site, the pillars are so large and there's so many of them, it's almost every fence panel has a pillar. And I just think that's overkill. Um, I understand Mettler's lane is a busy road. I understand it has a little bit of a higher speed limit, and it perhaps there was an accident here, but, you know, if we allow everybody to do this along Mettler's lane, it's, it's definitely not going to, I think, have the work that, uh, the, you know, the ordinance intense, uh, for Paskataway. Um, if you told me that these pillars were 12 inches, that's a different story, you know, and even that is substantially larger than what a typical fence posts would be. So, uh, I mean, it's just, if you want it to keep the pillars that were already constructed, again, my opinion is every other one, I would keep the corner pillars and then work, work off of the corners and probably leave the ones on the sides of the driveway. And then it's simple every other one.  
Speaker 9     00:26:18    Well, then that's what I wanted to just clarify that if I can just highlight that. So starting down here at the bottom, that would be a corner of the, of the lot. So then you would, you would, your suggestion is to remove that one, keep that, remove this highlighted one. This is on the corner of the driveway. So keep that corner of the driveway, keep that, remove this one, keep that one, remove this one, keep that one, remove this one. And then I think there's a much bigger gap between yeah. Then  
Speaker 5     00:26:44    You'd have to, you can slide one over perhaps, and then, uh, and then have one on the corner and then same thing work your way back to the front yard setback. I need side doing the same.  
Speaker 9     00:26:54    So, so your, so your recommendation in addition to the five here in the front would be all the ones also in the setback here would be this one, this one that,  
Speaker 5     00:27:05    Yeah, because again, they have the impact on the, in the cars that come out of the intersections driveways. So yeah, it would be up to the front yard setback line where my concern would be, uh, beyond the front yard setback. I don't have a concern other than the, the spike top of the fence or the picket style fence.  
Speaker 9     00:27:23    Would you be agreeable, Mr. Winterstein if we, if we came to a compromise to do those five along the front, which, which I think really is, is more the intent of the ordinance to keep that front clear, if we could keep those ones on the side, that would be five removed. And instead of nine,  
Speaker 5     00:27:40    Uh, I think at least the, uh, the front, maybe the front ones on the side, I think after that, you, you really you're. Okay.  
Speaker 0     00:27:50    So it's seven altogether, five, a front one on either side  
Speaker 5     00:27:55    For the first one after the corner. And then that's it.  
Speaker 9     00:27:58    So just, so then if those were removed, that would, that would be acceptable.  
Speaker 5     00:28:02    I think. So, Mr.  
Speaker 9     00:28:03    Hammad, is that, is that something that you would be acceptable agreeing to if we remove those pillars that I highlighted,  
Speaker 11    00:28:10    Uh, I don't mind a general, but I would like to give the board a chance to go out and see themselves. So they, uh, they, uh, they see what it really looks like. And then if they decide I removed this, I will do move it. I will obey by what the board says.  
Speaker 0     00:28:29    That's more than, more than fair.  
Speaker 9     00:28:32    So then if I can ask if we can then, uh, as my, as my client said, if we can carry this to another meeting, to give the board an opportunity to really see for themselves what it looks like. And if, if, if you are dead set on the removal of the, of the, uh, pillars, which we understand is certainly reasonable, uh, we will comply with those, with that condition to remove those seven, if the board truly sees that way. But I do want to give an opportunity to see it because I think it is a, uh, quite frankly, uh, uh, a real upgrade and improvement to the property over the years.  
Speaker 0     00:29:03    I, I will take it for what it's worth when I get out there and take a look at it. So we'll, we'll make that determination at the next meeting. Once the board members have gone out to the site to look at the, um, the layout.  
Speaker 9     00:29:16    Uh, thank you. So I, um, I guess I'll, if the board has any questions or I guess we can open it to the public at this time. Yeah.  
Speaker 0     00:29:22    Not at this point. Any other questions from anyone on the board hearing none. Let's open it to the public portion. Anyone in the public portion have any questions about this applicational comments? Sparkly? I do not see anyone. Okay. Public portions closed. Jim, can we set up a date? May 13th? Yep. Next two weeks is  
Speaker 2     00:29:49    May 13th acceptable.  
Speaker 12    00:29:51    Uh, that is acceptable for me, Mr. Ahmed, is there any reason why May 13th would not work? No. It's okay.  
Speaker 2     00:29:57    Okay. So anybody here on the Hammad application, it's going to be carried to May 13th with no further notice by the applicant. The only notice you receiving is by announcement here tonight. Thank you. We'll see you on May 13th.  
Speaker 0     00:30:11    Can I? All right, let's move up to number 10 41. ZB dash zero seven V. Craig and Cheryl Golan.  
Speaker 2     00:30:28    Are you going today? Testifying tonight? I'm sorry. Are you both going to be testifying tonight? Yes. Could you each raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth? Yes. Yes. One at a time. Could I have your name and address please?  
Speaker 12    00:30:44     avenue Piscataway New Jersey avenue, Piscataway New Jersey.  
Speaker 2     00:30:54    Thank you. Good. What have you explained to the board, what you'd like to do here?  
Speaker 12    00:30:57    Sure. Um, we are looking to add a second. Sorry. We're looking to add a second floor on top, on, on our house, um, at a, an add a porch. I'm sorry about that  
Speaker 0     00:31:28    Twitter, right?  
Speaker 12    00:31:30    So, yeah, sorry. So we're adding a second floor on our, on our house with four bedrooms, um, and a, um, adding a porch on the front.  
Speaker 0     00:31:45    Okay. Henry to do, uh, I have some questions or concerns.  
Speaker 5     00:31:52    Yeah. I mean, I just had two, um, two comments on this application. One is that the, the front yard, the, the proposal call for like a 10 foot porch, which, you know, unfortunately then once you add the steps to, it resulted in a pretty substantial front yard, variance, uh, requests. Um, that being said, if they could pair it back down so that the porch would be closer to five feet, uh, in size, which after the steps are added to that, um, it would be the front yard setback would result in a 30.5 foot front yard setback, which is predominantly the stairs. I think the township could look at that favorably, but a 10 foot porch, which is, you know, when you don't have the front yard step back, it's just, you know, it would be overkill. And it results in just too severe of a, of a front yard setback, in my opinion.  
Speaker 5     00:32:46    And then the only other thing was is they, again, as in other corner, lot applications that we've heard the fence should be at least 10 feet off of the right of way line. Um, so I think it might have to be adjusted slightly, maybe five feet. Uh, I think your fence wasn't on top of the writing weight line, but I'm not sure if it was, uh, 10 feet, if it is, then it's fine. You just need to add some, um, some landscaping to help offer it, um, some strawberry. Um, other than that, those are my only two issues. So I don't know, hopefully it would be willing to compromise on the front porch, uh, size and, uh, the landscaping and the relocation of that fence along a long way.  
Speaker 12    00:33:26    Yeah, we're fine. We're definitely fine with the porch. The only question I had on the, on the fence was, um, just the definition of what you mean by right away. And I think,  
Speaker 5     00:33:36    Okay, the right of way line is 10 feet from the face of the curb typically, um, that's where the actual property line is. So it usually is a foot or two on the interior side of the sidewalk. If there's a sidewalk there, which I believe there is. Okay. So if you use the curb as your guide, it would be 20 feet from the face that they occur typically. So you may be there, it looks like it's a little bit shy. You may need to just be relocated a little bit, so that you're at least 10 feet off of that line, which gives them 20 feet of clearance for the neighboring properties when they're backing out of driveways and things of that nature. And, uh, and then just lo shrubbery to help offer it. It doesn't have to be anything crazy, your perennials, ornamental, grasses, whatever, whatever. You'd like, we're pretty flexible with that. Just a little something to help buffer that fence because it's supposed to be 35 feet away from the property line and six feet high solid. So in this case, it's a lot closer. So we're asking for that.  
Speaker 12    00:34:36    Yeah. And I think it's about 16 I a measure right? 16 or 17 feet. So it's  
Speaker 5     00:34:41    There, you have to relocate it just slightly, unfortunately. But, um, that is a request we ask of everybody that comes in and is looking to put, you know, a corner property. And usually typically it's that one side, uh, that they're trying to expand their backyard. Cause it is a corner property. And I understand that, but we, we try to work with you, you know, um, and 10 feet is usually that, that that number, or 15 feet depends on the situation. But I think in this case 10 feet, because it's far enough down the street, uh, we'll work.  
Speaker 13    00:35:14    Okay. And then, um, um, our builders here and we have already talked, I think he's talked with the architect about the port. Could you repeat that on the call as well, was going to speak with the architect about scaling back the size of,  
Speaker 1     00:35:42    No, we can't hear her totally in and out.  
Speaker 5     00:35:44    Yeah. You're coming in and out a little bit, but I think you said that the arc, you, you, you have your builder and he's going to work with the architect to, to try to revise the plan to comply with the port requirement, correct? Yes. Okay. I mean, we have to put a number to it. So again, my recommendation would be is five feet really should be the number, you know, five feet. Um, which I think is still an adequate porch. Um, you know, uh, you know, I've seen five, six feet, four feet. I mean, if, if it, you know, we come to an agreement with five, five and a half at most of that would make the front yard setback 30 feet. So let's take 5.5. And if you can make that work, if not, then you'd have to come back. But I think, I think your architect will be able to make that work. If the board is inclined to approve that and the front yard set back then would become 30 feet. Um, Jim, thank  
Speaker 2     00:36:41    You.  
Speaker 0     00:36:44    Is anyone in the, uh, board, any comments or questions hearing none open it to the public portion, anyone in the public portion of any questions or comments about this application? Okay. Close the public portion. Um, if the applicants okay. Would five and a half feet, which is what, 10, where you recommended, I would recommend this application be approved all second. Yeah. Kale and in Zimmerman. And you're welcome, please call the roll.  
Speaker 1     00:37:18    Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Tillery, Mr. Wasteman. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando. Yes. And Mr. K hill. Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:37:32    Your application has been approved as amended. Uh, we will memorialize it in a written document in our next meeting in two weeks. You do not need to be present for that. We will mail a copy of that document to you, but you'll need a copy of that document to get your building permits.  
Speaker 0     00:37:46    Okay. Thank you very much, guys. Have a good look. Let's move on to item 12, 20 days, ZB dash 11 V. Ralph dill. Mr. Bill,  
Speaker 2     00:38:01    Mr. Del present,  
Speaker 0     00:38:07    Mr. Gallup dealer.  
Speaker 1     00:38:11    I don't see a  
Speaker 0     00:38:11    Name. Did you speak to him this week at all? Or  
Speaker 2     00:38:18    This is Mr. Dell. Mr. Dell. I need to swear you in, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give, shall be the truth, your name and address please.  
Speaker 5     00:38:32    And just 1 39 Seymour terrorists, Piscataway  
Speaker 14    00:38:35    Jersey.  
Speaker 2     00:38:36    Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would like to do here?  
Speaker 14    00:38:39    And I'd like to put a school story addition onto the back of my house with the open porch on a style.  
Speaker 0     00:38:49    Awesome. Um, Henry three items on the side impact  
Speaker 5     00:39:02    This, uh, sorry. This application came before us. Um, I think it was back in 2015. Um, first sunroom in this location, the board approved, they set back marrying to believe it was a 15 feet, according to my notes here. Um, and what, what ended up happening is then when he came in from building permits, it turned from a sunroom to this two story addition with, uh, an open, uh, ground level sort of porch roof. So, uh, I, I don't have really any issues other than again, because it totally changed from the original. Um, my only condition would be used that the porch area with that has just the roof should be maintained as an open porch. And if they ever decide to enclose that porch in, they would have to come back before this board. That's this area that's closest to the neighboring property. So my recommendation is the porch area should remain, uh, open. Uh, and I don't see any issues though with the two story addition, because it complies with the previously approved a setback for the summer. Sure.  
Speaker 0     00:40:12    Mr. Dale, you're okay with that. You tend to keep it open. Yes, I do. And if you, if you did want to close, you you'd have to come back before us.  
Speaker 14    00:40:25    No problem.  
Speaker 0     00:40:25    Things happen. People change. You don't know. Just want you to be aware of anyone else on the board. I have a question for this applicant hearing none. I'm going to open to the public portion. Anyone in the public portion, have any comments or questions for this applicant? No, sir. Nope. Public portion's closed. I'd make a motion to approve this application. I second, Ms. Buckley call roll.  
Speaker 1     00:41:00    Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Taylor, Mr. Wasteman. Mr. Blowout. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Mirando. Yes. And chairman Cahill.  
Speaker 0     00:41:14    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:41:15    Mr. Dill, your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be here for that. We'll mail a copy of that document to you, that document to get your building permits.  
Speaker 14    00:41:26    I have a question getting a building from a sense the office is closed. How do I go about doing that? But will,  
Speaker 1     00:41:35    Um, you could actually print them out online or you can call the billing department and they can mail them directly to you.  
Speaker 0     00:41:43    And I missed the deal. Hey guys, let's move to number 13 at the option of resolution from the regular meeting of February 25th, 2021.  
Speaker 2     00:41:54    The first resolution I have for your consideration is M and M partners at Piscataway. This was a resolution of approval for a preliminary and final site plan bulk and use variances. Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Reggio  
Speaker 1     00:42:08    Is not here today,  
Speaker 2     00:42:10    Mr. . Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Ali, Jeremy Cahill. Yes. Next resolution I have is for Gaia tried power war for, uh, a meditation area, which you voted to approve Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. The Reggio Mr. Blunt. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Ali. Yes. Kevin Cahill. Yes. The final resolution is for Beverly Zen. Belize was a certificate of non-conforming use, which you voted to approve Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Reggio, Mr. Blunt? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Ali. Yes. Jeremy Cahill. Yes. Those were all the resolutions that have for your consideration,  
Speaker 1     00:43:01    Mr. Conneely you had the T-Mobile from February.  
Speaker 2     00:43:05    Oh, you're right. I missed that. Uh, this was a, an application for an interpretation, um, which you voted to grant, uh, an issue came up with whether or not there were easement issues. Uh, we have resolved those. Um, so with that, Mr. Zimmerman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Reggio Mr. Blunt. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Ali. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Now those are all the resolution.  
Speaker 0     00:43:38    Okay. Let's jump to number 15. The adoption of minutes from the regular meeting of March 25th, 2021, all in favor, say aye. Aye. All posts. So I'm gonna make a move for German and we get out of here. I'll make a motion. I  
Speaker 1     00:43:57    Can't speak to either. So all of us  
Speaker 0     00:44:02    As chairman blur, if he wants to vote on this, let's all in favor and the German say hi, once again. Thank you for your volunteerism. Uh, you, your special people. I love you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 


	
Minutes for Piscataway Zoning meeting on April 8 2021