Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on June 24 2021
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Speaker 0 00:00:02 All right. Seven 30 chairman recording in progress. All right, go right ahead. Speaker 1 00:00:12 I think the only board of adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available for the township clerk and notice sent to the Curry news and the Star-Ledger will the clerk please call the roll. Speaker 0 00:00:32 Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Weissman here. Mr. Ratio, Mr. Blount, let me just see if he's in the holding area. I don't see Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando here, Mr. Ali and chairman Cahill. Speaker 1 00:01:00 Yeah, I will everyone. Please stand for the salute to the flag, to the flag of the United States of America. Mr. Conneely, are there any changes to the agenda? Speaker 2 00:01:24 Yes, we have three changes to the agenda. The application Medina for Teresa court is adjourned until July 8th, 2021 with no further notice to the adjoining property owners, but they do need to publish it in the newspaper. Next, the application of Mohammed rod Juan is postponed to July 8th with no further notice required at all by the apple. Finally, the application of Dwight Mitchell 20 summer shade circle is adjourned until July 8th, 2021 with no further notice by the applicant. Those are all the changes that I have. Thank you, Mr. Speaker 1 00:02:03 Let's proceed to number 5 21 ZB 30 V row Londa Johnson. Speaker 2 00:02:11 Ms. Johnson present. Oh, Ms. Johnson. I need to swear you in, could you raise your right hand, do the, the testimony you're about to give. So you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Yes. Thank you. Your name and address please. Speaker 3 00:02:26 Rolanda Johnson, 73 or S avenue. Speaker 2 00:02:29 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would like to do here? Speaker 3 00:02:32 I want to put a pool in the backyard. Um, I guess I'm replacing the pool. Uh, the previous owners had an above ground pool. My backyard is up against route 18, so I guess it's considered a front yard. Um, so that's why we are here today. Speaker 1 00:02:54 Henry, do you have any comments? No, just that this Speaker 4 00:02:59 Is a unique lot. It does have three front judges actually. So it backs up to pose lane east, which is considered route 18 and it has a orange avenue in the front of the property. And there's also a smaller paper street that runs along the right side of the property. So again, we have three frontages on his property creating a no doubt, an undue hardship. Um, I don't see any issues with the application. I think the, uh, the location of the pool is, uh, appropriate considering the, uh, again, all the of, and that, uh, uh, the back of the house. But Speaker 1 00:03:44 I apologize. Speaker 2 00:03:48 Um, Mr. Chairman, if there are no further questions by the board, you should open it. Speaker 1 00:03:51 The public will do at this point. I'll open up to public training comments about this application and when the public, Speaker 0 00:04:01 Uh, chairman hill, there was an Angie and Jose who had their hand up before it started. So I don't know if you'd like to add, Speaker 1 00:04:08 Oh, they still there. Come on. Speaker 0 00:04:15 Hello? Hello. Hi, this is Angie and Jose. Um, I'm sorry, we just didn't hear our name being called. So we just wanted to make sure that we're we're here and that we're present for the court. Yes, no, we only, we only did the board members. We haven't done your case yet. And I understand, I do apologize. Thank you. Thanks. Speaker 1 00:04:34 So there's no hands raised floor. Um, Speaker 0 00:04:39 I do not see anyone else with their hands raised. Speaker 1 00:04:43 Good public portion is closed. I make a motion to approve this application. We want a second. Second, second. It's called the role Speaker 0 00:04:56 Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Taylor. I, excuse me. He's not here, Mr. Wasteman. Yes. Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Rando. Yes. Mr. Ali. Yes. And chairman Cahill. Speaker 1 00:05:13 Yes. Speaker 2 00:05:14 Johnson. Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. And we'll mail that document to you. You'll need that for your permits. Speaker 1 00:05:24 You're welcome. Have a good night. Now Let's move to item number 7 21 days, ZB dash 37 V. Look up. Speaker 5 00:05:37 This is Mike part of pillow and I was trying to get on I'm on the phone. Uh, I'm also in this meeting. I live at, uh, 11 Revere road. Speaker 1 00:05:47 I haven't called you yet, sir. Speaker 5 00:05:49 Okay. Sorry. Speaker 1 00:05:51 Be patient. We'll get to you. Uh, Angela gums. Speaker 0 00:05:56 Yes. Here Speaker 2 00:05:59 Testifying. Speaker 1 00:06:01 Correct. Speaker 2 00:06:02 Um, I need to swear both of you in, could you each raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth one at a time? Could I have your name and address please? Speaker 6 00:06:13 Sure. AngelaMinutes for Piscataway Zoning meeting on June 24 2021address one 16 Heiferman street, the Skyway New Jersey. Oh 8 8 5 4, Speaker 1 00:06:23 Jose. The Hazel's one 60 happenin street, Piscataway New Jersey, 0 8 8 5 4. Speaker 2 00:06:31 Thank you. Uh, could one of you explain to the board what you would like to do here? Speaker 6 00:06:36 Okay. We are trying to get a variance for the fence. We are also installing a pool, um, and we have an easement currently, so we need to get the variance to get relief. Speaker 2 00:06:52 Jeremy, I wish to talk to Mr. Henderson. Yes, ma'am. Speaker 1 00:06:55 I mean, I'd wonder if you could go through your site impact with this applicant? Speaker 4 00:06:58 Yeah. Again, this is a application for a pool, uh, in a front yard. So another corner property, um, where we have two front judges, um, there is some limited space. Um, so it's the pool due to the fact that there is a sort of overhang for a second story porch, the bull was moved to the backyard. It would be probably closer than the 10 feet, uh, along the rear line. Um, so they're requesting, I believe, uh, 18 foot, uh, from the property setback. Um, my recommendation would be, is to push that back slightly, um, additional two feet so that the pool is at least 20 feet from the property line along mountain avenue. Um, and then really that, that's my biggest concern. Um, defenses, any, uh, is in the easement. It's been there. I believe the easement was purchased actually after the fact, uh, when the mountain avenue was improved. Um, so I don't have an issue with the chain link fence being in the easement. Uh, the applicant would just have to agree to the fact that if for some reason, the township, where do they need to gain access to that easement? Um, it would be the homeowners responsibility for any costs associated with the removal and replacement of that fence. Speaker 2 00:08:22 It's gone. Did you agree to move the pool slightly as recommended by Mr. Henderson? Yes Speaker 6 00:08:28 We are. Speaker 2 00:08:30 Okay. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:08:32 Any other questions from the board members hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public. Anyone in the public portion of any questions or comments about this application Barkley? No, one's raising their hand public portions closed. I'd make a motion to approve this application with Henry's recommendations. Please call Speaker 0 00:08:55 Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Weissman. Yes. Thank you, Mr ratio. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando. Yes. Mr. Ali and chairman Cahill. Yes. Speaker 2 00:09:14 Your application has been approved as amended. Uh, we'll memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that and we will send that document to you, but you'll need that document to get your permits. Speaker 0 00:09:25 All right. Awesome. Thank you so much. Appreciate that guys. Speaker 1 00:09:31 Let's move on to item number 8 21 dash DB dash 39 V. Carrie and Matt, Allie LGS present. Are we doing tonight? Good. Thank you. Good to go. Speaker 2 00:09:44 I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. I do Speaker 1 00:09:50 Your name please. Matthew Alydar. And you live Speaker 2 00:09:54 At 15 Revere Speaker 1 00:09:55 Road, 15 Revere road, Piscataway New Jersey. Speaker 2 00:09:58 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you'd like to do here? Speaker 1 00:10:02 Um, we, we are trying to seek a permit for the pool of bonding of a pool that's on the property. And, uh, we were brought to our attention that that existing fence that's on the property is on an easement. So we're trying to get approved for the variance for that fence. That's that's there. Henry, could you, um, go to some of the information on the site impact for this applicant? Speaker 4 00:10:25 Yeah. Um, well, along with the items mentioned by the applicant, the pool of the existing fence that runs over the easement, there's also an oversized, uh, what's noted as a shed structure with the deck in the back of the property. Um, so that check structure is over. What's allowed, uh, as a maximum accessory structure of building, um, as far as dimensions and size. Um, my question, did you have a chance to look over the staff report that was provided to you? Speaker 1 00:11:00 Yes. Speaker 4 00:11:02 Can you give us a little bit of a description of what that shed is, what it's being used for? Uh, the rooms inside that Chad is their utilities, plumbing, uh, electric, Speaker 1 00:11:13 Um, there's no utilities, it's just storage. Uh, use it for a lot of like lawnmower equipment and, and some kids' toys. Okay. And, oh, sorry, go ahead. Speaker 4 00:11:25 What's the deck portion of that structure? Why is there like a deck off of this Speaker 1 00:11:32 Sitting area before the door? It just has like, like a little overhang, E S an overhang area kind of that make it look like, I don't know, just almost like a little sitting area, but not very practical. Speaker 4 00:11:46 Um, and so there's, there's no utilities in there. What's Speaker 1 00:11:51 No. Um, however we did, when we pulled a permit to do the electric, to bond the pool, uh, we did, uh, run a service to the shed because it's located right there by the pool, uh, motor and everything. So it was kind of done Speaker 4 00:12:08 At the same, Speaker 1 00:12:11 Like a F like a 50 amp service to the shed was ran at the same time. So, um, like a panel, uh, sub panel, I Speaker 4 00:12:21 Guess. Okay. So there's lights in the shed, Speaker 1 00:12:25 No lights, just a sub panel. And then from there, there's an outlet that goes outside to the where the pool is Speaker 4 00:12:31 Larry. Okay. And that was on your permit application, correct? Yes. Okay. And then as mentioned in the previous application that you understand it, for some reason, the fence has to be removed to gain access to the easement. That would be your responsibility, any cost associated with the removal and replacement of that fence would be your responsibility. Speaker 1 00:12:57 I understand. Okay. Speaker 4 00:13:00 Here hearing the description. I don't think I have an issue with it. Um, you know, again, it's to be used as a shadow only, um, uh, a little bit oversized, but the setbacks are complied with the accessory structure setbacks. Uh, it seems like it's been there for awhile of the properties, rather large. So I, I don't, I don't really see an issue with it. Um, based on the description above the applicant. Speaker 1 00:13:29 Thank you, Henry. Any other board members have any questions for this app? Hearing none the open to the public, anyone in the public portion of any questions or comments for this application? Speaker 5 00:13:45 My name is Mike Carter pillow. Um, I got something in the mail certified about this situation with the variants. I have no problem with the variants. Speaker 2 00:13:57 I'm sorry. Let me stop you for a minute. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? The testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Yes. Your name and address, please. Speaker 5 00:14:08 My name is Michael Parker pillow, and my address is 11 Revere road, Piscataway New Jersey. And the address is zero. These zip code is 0 8 8 5 4 dash 5 1 3 2. Speaker 2 00:14:20 Thank you. Go ahead with your comments please. Speaker 5 00:14:24 Oh, the only comment I had was I'm okay. Because I'm directly in that store. I'm okay with the variance. But the only thing that kind of annoyed me was the fact that the paperwork that came through didn't have, have the correct spelling of my name. And I checked my casket documents. Speaker 1 00:14:43 You might want to take that up with the tent. The township clerk would clearly, um, rectify that situation. The Speaker 0 00:14:50 Homeowner sends the notices out chairman, not the town, unless it was wrong on the tax records, but he would be, Speaker 1 00:14:57 Oh yeah, that could be our error. If so we apologize. I would have to see the exact document. Okay. Thank you for bringing that to our attention, Mr. Martel, any other, anyone else in the public? Have any questions? Comments, just Buckley. I don't see anyone chairman. Okay. Let's make a close the public portion. It make a motion to approve this application, but Henry's comments on a second. Thank you please. Speaker 0 00:15:35 Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Weissman, He had to recuse himself. Excuse me, Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando. Yes. Mr. Ali and chairman Cahill. Speaker 1 00:15:58 Yes. Your application has been approved. Uh, we all memorialize it in a written document in our next meeting. We don't want to just present for that. We'll send that document to you, but you'll need that to get your permits. Thank you everyone. Have a great night, sir. Have a great night. Let's move on to item number 11. Am I right Laura 11 at this point? Yes. Okay. Um, 21, dear CB dash 17 slash 18 V sole ops, LLC. Speaker 7 00:16:32 Hi everyone. Uh, I'm Susan , I'm the attorney for soul ops. Um, and, uh, let's see. Um, okay. We have two applications. The first one is three for 3 71 hose lane, which I believe is the application that you just called. Um, so what I would like to do is just provide you with a brief overview and then I do have, um, the appropriate witnesses to testify this evening. Um, as noted, the property is located at 3 71 hose lane. It's known as block 6, 0 0 3, lots 13. It is located in the BP one business professional one zone. There is an existing office building on the property, along with the related parking lot. The proposal is to install core port and rooftop, solar panels, and the related equipment. Solar installations are a conditional use under your ordinances. Um, the application does not meet all of the conditions of the conditional use set out in your ordinance. Speaker 7 00:17:39 Hence we are before this board, um, we are tonight seeking preliminary and final site plan approval to install the carport solar panels and the rooftop solar panels and the related equipment. Um, we are also seeking variances for the 3 71 hoes lane property, um, for, uh, deviations from your, your, um, solar ordinance. The first one is the height of the structure supporting the solar panel in the parking lot. Your ordinance provides a maximum of 10 feet or permitted. Um, 20 point 33 feet is proposed due to the nature of the structure. Um, we will, we do have a planner who will be providing testimony in support of that. Um, the second variant is the height of the solar panel on the roof. 12 inches is a maximum permitted and we are at 12.3 inches. And I would suggest that as the planner will indicate that that is a diminimous, um, deviation, um, when we're also seeking a variance from the plug in electric vehicle charging stations, requirement, um, non are proposed, and then we are reducing. Speaker 7 00:18:59 And then, uh, a final variance would be for a number of parking spaces. Um, we are reducing the number of parking spaces by two. One of the, um, one of the comments from Mr was that the existing dumpster on the property needs to have an enclosure, and we are going to be working with the property owner to do that. And, um, that will require that we eliminate two parking spaces. Um, we're also seeking a number of design waivers for site items that we would suggest or advocate or not applicable to the limited nature of this application. You can find those in our application, um, and or you can have, um, I can certainly have the site engineer go through those, the professionals that I have this evening or cliff Quaye, who is a professional engineer and professional planner. I also have a Mr. Chris Gorgo who represents the solar installer and professional, um, who will be able to provide any information that Mr. Speaker 7 00:20:07 With regard to the actual installation that Mr. Kwame may not be able to supply. Um, so with that, uh, oh, and then of course we have the report from Mr. Hinder steam and, um, Mr. has been working with Mr. Henderson and we'll be able to provide an update on that. Um, I think essentially we, um, they have worked out what, what we need to do, um, and what, what we can agree to and what the owner of the property will need to do as well. Um, so I will leave that to Mr. Quinn and, uh, I submit her hinder steam was on, um, I believe, yes, there he is. Um, so he can certainly provide his input on that as well. Um, to the extent that Mr quite does not address that. Um, so what I would like to do is provide, uh, or is introduced Mr. Cliff and we can qualify him and, um, proceed with our, with our testimony please. Speaker 8 00:21:06 Mr. , could you raise your right hand? Certainly you swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. I do have your name and address please. Yeah. So it's Clifton quake, that's Q U a Y. And the business address is 10,000 Midlantic drive Mount Laurel New Jersey. Thank you. And I apologize. I can't, for some reason I'm not getting up on a Camry or I don't know, I've been on tons of zoom meetings and never had a problem with it, but I'm having one at night. Speaker 0 00:21:34 I need to make him a panelist. If he want to be seen, they tried webinars. Um, I will promote you. You're going to automatically be muted and then you'll be able to unmute so Welcome Speaker 7 00:21:48 Promoted. It's Speaker 0 00:21:50 Promoted. It should be coming back on There. He can see you. Perfect. Thank you. Speaker 8 00:22:01 Super, thank you very much. Very well. So, um, as was already summarized, this is an application for, Speaker 7 00:22:10 Well, if I, I just, I, I would like to just, I think, um, um, Ms. Nearly would prefer that I qualify you just keep that Stantec next to your name, but if you can just go through who do you work for? And you're also professional in our Ana professional. Speaker 8 00:22:30 Yep. I, I, so I, I'm a, I'm a vice-president with Stantec consulting services on both a licensed professional engineer and professional planner in the state of New Jersey. Um, I've actually been qualified in front of your board previously, but it was probably, I was probably 12 or 13 years ago when we did a data center on a corporate place south. Um, but I did get the opportunity to work with Mr. InterStim back then, when we did that application, I've been qualified in front of numerous boards as both an engineer and planner and stay in New Jersey. And I've been doing this for longer than I can remember at this point as a professional engineer and professional planner. Super, thank you very much, please proceed. Okay. So, um, as I'm sorry, go ahead. Speaker 7 00:23:20 That's okay. Um, just go through, um, the location, the lot size the zone. And also if, if you can, to the extent you can, the purpose of the application, and, um, you heard my introduction in terms of the, um, the nature of the facility and, um, the nature of, of the solar installation. Speaker 8 00:23:40 Certainly Speaker 7 00:23:42 Now you've got at this stage Speaker 8 00:23:44 Problem. So as, as was stated, that the purpose of the application is basically to install canopy, mounted, solar panels in the rear parking lot of the, uh, of the office building at 3 71 owes lane. Um, they're going to cover the vast majority of the rear parking lot on the building. Um, I actually have an aerial, if it would be of benefit to the board for me to bring it up and show you that I don't know if I have the ability to do that or not, but if you've got plants in front of you, you can certainly see what I'm talking about. Um, the, uh, the purpose of the solar field is to supply power to the building itself. This is what's known as a zero net meter installation. So the power is going to the building and it's anticipated, it will supply a little in access and 90% of the overall power needs of the building. Speaker 8 00:24:35 So it's certainly an and, you know, provide a, provide energy to that building at a set rate, that's been negotiated with the company that is going to, you know, put, put the solar field in place out there. Um, you know, so it's in my mind sort of a win-win, you've got, you know, a, uh, you know, a building owner in the community, that's now going to be able to establish a steady rate for utilities. And those utilities are going to be provided by clean energy, which as I saw on the website is certainly something that the township's looking to promote. Um, in addition to that, uh, just as an ancillary benefit, the canopies themselves actually do provide some cover for the parking in the rear lot. I mean, it's basically like parking on a car port in the back once they're installed. So that's, that's the general overview of what we're, what we're looking to do here. Speaker 8 00:25:25 And I can talk if you like a little specifically about the, you know, the relief that we're seeking and the, um, you know, why think from a planning standpoint, the Relief's appropriate. Um, so as was mentioned, we need a conditional use. Uh, you know, this is a, this is a use variance because we don't meet all the conditions of the conditional use. The, uh, you know, solar is allowed in this home, but it has to meet to meet the conditions, uh, because of the way these canopies are constructed over a large parking field like this, they are higher than the maximum of 10 feet that is allowed. Um, the, uh, the, the panel design is sort of an invert. It's a V-shape. So, uh, the outside edge panels need to be high enough that they won't get run into say if a truck or something like that, circulates through the back parking lot. Speaker 8 00:26:17 Uh, they slope inward towards the center, or basically the median of the parking spaces. Um, that way, if you get any snow melt or anything like that, or sliding snow, it's not coming down on the outside edge of those panels. I'm sure all of us at one time or another experience that same, maybe being near a standing seam roof when some snow decides to slide off it in the winter, and you get that surprise of getting a head full of snow coming down on top of you by designing the systems or the, the structure so that they, they, uh, slope towards the middle. You don't have that issue. Um, the actual little bit of heat that's generated from the panels themselves tends to, you know, tends to melt snow that's on them, but you certainly can get a little bit of buildup. And that's, you know, that's one of the features from a safety standpoint and the design. Speaker 8 00:27:02 So the overall height is a height at the very outside edge or the top of the V and a it's really a function of having enough clearance under those as the overhang, the parking spaces, to make sure that they wouldn't be clipped by a truck or something like that, if it's circulated through the lot. Um, so the, the other, uh, the other relief requested is related to the, uh, rooftop panels that are going on. Um, they have a slight pitch to them. And as a result of that, the height of the outside edge of those panels is 12.3 inches, as opposed to the 12 that's permitted above a rooftop. Now it is a flat roof. Uh, I don't believe that the three inch deviation is going to create any additional visibility of those panels from the street. As a matter of fact, it's a, I believe a three story building. Speaker 8 00:27:53 You're not, you're, you're, they're, they're, they're not going to be visible at the height that they're at, unless you're flying over in a plane. Um, and then the building itself is, uh, a 40 foot building, which is that maximum height and the zone, uh, the three inches, um, you know, the, the, the three inches above the 12 creates a deviation where we need, uh, we need a, uh, we need a technical variance for building height of 40.3 feet, um, where the maximum building height is 40. So that, that there, the variance is related to the solar panel installation itself. Then the one other that we are requesting is variance to put in to basically not put in the vehicle charging stations, the company that does the solar panels is not one that does charging stations. If they did, it would sort of be a no-brainer, but they don't. Speaker 8 00:28:46 Um, you know, typically that would be something that a lot owner would look at. I mean, often those deals or negotiate with somebody that does that type of installation. And certainly owner's cognizant of that, and, you know, may pursue that separately, but we would like to get, get a variance to not do that at this time. So that that requirement is not tied to the solar installation. Um, outside of that, there were a couple of minor design waivers, and, uh, as was mentioned, you know, I've got the opportunity to meet with Henry out on site and then converse with them afterwards, uh, on a follow-up call. And I'm comfortable that, uh, you know, we're on the same page, we're working out all the comments that are in his letter. Um, so if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Speaker 7 00:29:32 Um, I think, um, cliff, there was also the parking Speaker 8 00:29:36 Variance. Yes, yes. That's correct. Speaker 7 00:29:39 Actually, that ties in with your comments, um, that you had with Mr. Henderson. Speaker 8 00:29:44 Yeah, that's correct. So one of the comments in the review letter was a to provide a trash enclosure. Currently, there are two dumpsters that are sitting way at the back of the site, but they're sitting essentially in a park, you know, into parking spaces. Uh, so we're going to, you know, work with the owner to get, uh, get the appropriate location for those and install an enclosure around them, but it will take up two of the parking spaces that are out there. So to the extent that we need a variance on parking, we're requesting a reduction of two spaces on the lot they're under current standards, um, and based on direct observation, and obviously, you know, we're not fully occupied back in the offices, but there appears to be more than enough parking on this site to satisfy the needs of the building. Um, the, the site currently has, uh, somewhere in the neighborhood of, uh, five hundred and sixty nine, five hundred seventy spaces on it. Um, so I think that things that covers it all. Yeah. Speaker 7 00:30:52 So cliff, I know you talked about, um, in some degree about the criteria for the variances, but this, this covered as a conditional use, it's covered it's, it falls within the Coventry square standards. Um, and with that case, isn't it true that the focus of the negative criteria is on the impact of the deviation, not the impact of the use. And I know you spoke about that in your professional union. Um, is it your opinion that the, um, the car that the car port proofs or, or if you can just, just go briefly through the core port, the proofs for the car port, um, that there is no impact, um, on, on the neighboring properties, um, or there shouldn't be any kind of negative, certainly not a substantial, uh, negative impact from the deviation for the height of the core ports. You have the benefits of them, but just talk a little bit about the deviation and the impact on, on the use of I'm sorry. Speaker 8 00:31:52 So, so as far as, as far as visibility from, you know, from hose lane, they're behind the building, so they're basically not going to be visible at all. Um, the, and the car ports themselves, I think have a pleasing aesthetic design with that inverted V and a little bit of structure onto the middle of them. Uh, those car ports are going to, uh, you know, actually have lighting built into them. That's downwardly directed lighting that will wipe the parking lot. Um, as you know, so some of the existing poles that are out there currently will be removed and that lighting won't be replaced by, by this. But, you know, I think that the benefits of the, you know, of the solar installation for clean energy for the community and actually, you know, alternative or, or clean energy is considered inherently beneficial use. But the, uh, I think the deviations that we're requesting are appropriate for the installation that we're seeking and the, and the scale of it and that, um, it can be granted with not substantial detriment, but probably good nor did his own plan in his own zone ordinance. And, uh, you know, that, that ultimately what we're going to have here is something that's going to be beneficial to both the building owner and the community. Speaker 7 00:33:04 Okay. And then if you can just provide the similar, the same with the same standard for the rooftop. Speaker 8 00:33:11 Yeah. Well, as I said, the rooftop is really a diminimous exception. And once again, I don't see it creating any detriment, um, and that, you know, that it can be granted without that, you know, without detriment to the public good. And where the zone plan or zoning ordinance. Speaker 7 00:33:27 Okay. Thank you for, thank you so much. I don't have any other questions for, um, for Mr. Quake, Speaker 1 00:33:36 Let me as well, the board members, let me, does anyone on the board have any questions for Mr. Coy hearing Henrietta, any comments Speaker 4 00:33:51 Your mommy go firsthand? Um, you know, th the only comments I have, and I think Mr. did a pretty good job of outlining. Um, some of the things we had talked about and I'm in agreement with, with most of the things that he, he had said. Um, do I have a concern about the electric charging stations? This is project basically a project that you're promoting clean energy, and, um, obviously the is all for that, uh, which is why the electric charging stations are in the ordinance. Now we're trying to promote clean energy and, you know, multiple levels. And, uh, I, I applaud the, the owner for trying to go towards clean energy, but I think that's sort of counter productive to say that, you know, putting in the, the solar panels to save money and to create clean energy, but then not providing the charging stations, um, for employees to have electric vehicles, to be able to charge those vehicles at the site. Speaker 4 00:34:54 Um, I'm not saying that the 11 or the required 11 charging stations, um, may all be needed, especially in light of, you know, how likely use the office have been in the last couple of years. But I think there may be a, um, a compromise that could be made where a few charging stations are requirement. I understand it would be, you know, probably on the owner versus the, your applicant here. Uh, who's doing the, the, um, the total dependent Lorraine. But again, I, you know, that unfortunately cliff and I really didn't talk too much about those charging stations. Um, you know, I don't have an issue with really the other, the other variances I think is, is, uh, is proofs speak for themselves and at least things that he didn't even touch upon where the increased buffering that we're going to be putting around the perimeter of the site, uh, replace some of the interior trees that are going to help buffer the site. But again, my only concern is, you know, perhaps not 11, but perhaps, you know, four charging stations or three charging stations should be added to the site to provide some, um, some, you know, uh, promotion of electric vehicle use, uh, for the employees of, of, uh, Speaker 7 00:36:12 So Mr. Chairman, if I might, um, the owner, it's my understanding as the attorney that the owners are pursuing with a separate partner, and that would be a separate application and that the timing is the issue. Um, the timing is the issue with the solar project. Um, I I'm sure that the board can understand and appreciate the fact that we have a number of different players here that would be necessary to install the charging stations. Um, so ops and their, their contractor solar sense, our solar installers and the owners have, um, the owners of the property are working with on the solar aspect of this right now. And the solar aspect of this is not related to the they're, they're different disciplines. There are different technologies. Um, they, they are not, they're not the same. And while I understand Mr. Henderson, you know, you're concerned about it, like this is one step towards, and this is a big step towards a cleaner energy and, you know, a green quote-unquote green way of proceeding. And I would not like to see, I think it would, it would be almost counterproductive to require this applicant who is the solar aspect to then have to contract with, or, um, to have this application be conditioned on the owner, doing something when the owner is working with the solar installer. Speaker 4 00:37:55 I understand that, but it's a combined effort here. It's the owner is part of this application. It's not just the solar company, it's it's solar company in conjunction with the owner together are proposing this application without the owner. This doesn't happen. So again, it's directly impacting the parking area and the parking area is what we're talking about. We're talking about electric stations, you know, we're ripping up parking spaces where we're running electrical conduit from the building to the solar rec. It seems appropriate timing wise that this would be the time to do it. Uh, when you are ripping the parking lot, when you are changing, um, you know, the parking configuration in the lot, you know, maybe, maybe John, you have a little bit of insight on this as well. Speaker 9 00:38:46 I'm going to suggest a compromise based on what Susan said at the outset. She said that the owners were committed to the installation of the charging stations, but right, not right now. And what you could do is make a condition that the solar stations are to be installed subject to the location approval of Henry with a certain debt, with a certain timeframe on it. And if they don't do it, they'll be in violation of their approval and know the consequences. Speaker 4 00:39:30 I think that sounds like a fair compromise Speaker 7 00:39:34 Again. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, John. I missed what your, what your question was. Speaker 9 00:39:40 You suggested timeframe and our, uh, object to the suggestion. Speaker 7 00:39:47 And would it be, um, the four for Mr. Henderson? Speaker 9 00:39:52 I'm sorry. Speaker 4 00:39:57 Well, again, I was looking at four because the nature of this being combined with this application, I think half of what is required would be a good compromise at this point. Maybe let's say five spaces. If we're going to push it with, uh, with say that, you know, at some point within the next two years, these charging stations will be built that I think, you know, five, six spaces, because now we're pushing it two years down the line. There's going to be that many more, I think, electric vehicles on the market. And, um, so I don't want to short change the ordinance. And, and again, I think that the trade off would be is we're going to give you, you know, perhaps two years to, to get to that finish line. So, you know, I think somewhere that half of the numbers should be, should be, Speaker 7 00:40:50 And again, it's not a new site and I, you know, I understand completely when you're building a new site, you can plan for it. It's part of your program. Um, I appreciate the fact that as you said, that we are in order to do this in order to do the solar installation, it's also making changes to the parking area. Um, so, you know, it's, it's, it's up to the board. I mean, you can certainly make it a condition of approval and deny that variance or modify that variance request to require within two years, five charging stations. And we will have to work that out with, um, with the owner and, and if we can't then, you know, then the would not be built. So, you know, would, would not be, would, would not be completed. So, um, you know, it certainly the, the board's prerogative to make, to, to deny the variance or to modify, to grant the variance in a limited aspect of the five to be installed from two years of the resolution, I would assume. Um, and you know, that that's certainly your prerogative. Speaker 9 00:41:59 Thank you, Mr. Wright, the board understands it denying it would require the full eight. Now, I think there's a reasonable compromise, as I suggested you have other, other comments on this application. I did not. I have just several, uh, the lights on the canopy are going to stay on all the time or shut off during non-working hours. Speaker 8 00:42:28 Um, Hmm. You know, I don't know the answer to that, but, uh, maybe one of the people from the, uh, construction company, Speaker 9 00:42:38 The practice and the township has been to shut them off when you're not working. Speaker 8 00:42:42 I mean, Speaker 7 00:42:45 Is there a time, is there a time on that John Speaker 9 00:42:47 Non working hours, you know, flexible yeah. Eight to, you know, work or something. I mean, people come in all different times. Speaker 8 00:43:00 Yeah. It's there is the ability to keep a few on just for security purposes. Yeah. That unless site, unless I hear something different from our applicant, that certainly sounds like something that can be worked out Speaker 9 00:43:12 And the, the panels themselves are these non-glare, Speaker 8 00:43:17 Um, Susan, we might need to get Chris Jonah to answer that. Speaker 7 00:43:23 I'm thinking that Chris, is that something that you can get, you can speak to Chris Gaga Speaker 9 00:43:29 Because I commented to design and makes the smallest profile you could backing to the high school. But if these things are like the old mirror ones Speaker 8 00:43:43 That will say this, that the design of the canopies with the, with the shape, actually the panels themselves are really not visible, uh, looking at them because they're, they're, they're, they're sloped inward, you know, they're sloped downward on the V is Speaker 9 00:44:03 It somebody knows the answer. Speaker 7 00:44:05 Yeah. I see. Chris Gorgon has un-muted himself. You just introduce yourself, tell him, tell the board and the, and you're going to need to be sworn. Yes. Speaker 2 00:44:14 Mr. Gorka, could you raise your right hand? Yes. You swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. Yes. I do your name and address please. Speaker 10 00:44:24 Sure. It's Chris Borga at 28 mountain view drive in Northfield, New Jersey. Oh 7 5 0 8. Uh, I am the, uh, president of solar sense, a solar development company here, and I'm been working with the, uh, project owner and the property owner to, um, you know, put this project together. Um, and sir, to answer your question about non-glare, um, I cannot give you a specific on that. I can tell you that the panels are, are glass, but these panels are also approved, um, you know, next to, uh, uh, adjacent to air, uh, airports and whatnot. Um, so, you know, I, I would think they would meet that same kind of approval. They're also over in the parking lot over on 3 71 hose lane. Um, the south of the, uh, south facing part of the parking lot is to the front of it, um, away from the back where the, where you're talking about the high school. So everything will be pitched towards, um, you know, towards the front of the building, away from the high school. Speaker 9 00:45:37 Okay. Well, I don't think we have a hard answer on this, but I agree that design is turning them away. I would suggest condition B that they utilize a non-glare panel, uh, where possible or some language to that sword about that encourage Speaker 11 00:46:04 Courage. That's fair. Speaker 9 00:46:06 Okay. I Henry on landscaping, I assume that was covered in, dealt with, Speaker 4 00:46:14 I worked out a lot of these comments, uh, through site visit with Mr. . Uh, I think he's agreed to work with me and we'll come to an agreement on all of these landscaped items or landscape concerns. Speaker 9 00:46:26 I just say same comment, but not to the DVR, uh, comments or suggestions because the German Speaker 1 00:46:35 Gotcha. Speaker 4 00:46:39 Thinking stuff. Speaker 1 00:46:42 Okay. Any other questions? Any board members that have any other questions? Speaker 11 00:46:48 I guess I question, are we, are we going to be voting on the modification to the variance for the charging stations for some period of time, whether it's two years or one year, is that going to be modified? Speaker 1 00:47:05 I think, I think that that's what we're going to, uh, I'm going to, um, suggest that the board consider that, um, five, five units to be built over the next two years in order for this application to be approved. Okay. Speaker 11 00:47:18 Thank you. Speaker 1 00:47:20 And encourage the lighting was the word that Chadwick use encouraged that we use buffered lighting whenever possible panels are nine glare, variety. Non-clear cotton. Okay. Any other questions from board members? Jim takes the public. Yes. Okay. Anyone in the public portion of any questions or comments about the certification Speaker 0 00:47:44 And not see Speaker 1 00:47:45 Anyone okay. Hearing none, the public portion is closed. Um, I'm in favor of approving this, uh, application with the comments that Henry and John mentioned in their testimony. So I'll be voting for it with the language that Mr. will tell us how the second you accomplished, please call roll. Speaker 0 00:48:07 Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Weissman. Yes. Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Mirando. Yes. Mr. Alley and chairman Cahill. Speaker 1 00:48:24 Right. We'll have a more Eliza resolution on our next meeting. Speaker 7 00:48:27 Okay. I appreciate that. And when you, what is the next meeting? They're completely Speaker 0 00:48:33 Polite. Speaker 7 00:48:35 Okay, great. Thank you for, Speaker 1 00:48:38 Thank you for that. Thank you, man. We'll see you in about 10 seconds. Uh, moving on to item number 1221 days, DB dash 19 slash 20 B Saul ops, LLC. Speaker 7 00:48:52 Yes. Thank you. Um, for the record, Susan Rue bright, I'm an attorney with Brock Eichler in Roseland, New Jersey. Um, I am, uh, representing so lops LLC, who is the applicant? The property is 3 7 7 hose lane known as blocks 6 0 0 3 lot 12.01. This property is located in the business professional one zone. There is an office building existing on the property, along with the related parking lot. The proposal is to install carport and rooftop, solar panels and related equipment. Solar installations are a conditional use under your ordinances. This application does not meet all of the conditions of this conditional use. And hence we are before the sport, we are seeking this evening preliminary and final site plan approval to install the car ports and the rooftop panels. We are also seeking variances from your conditional use ordinance for the height of the structure, supporting the solar panel in the parking lot. Speaker 7 00:49:57 A maximum of 10 feet is permitted. Whereas 20 point 33 feet is proposed. We're also seeking a very, a variance or a variance from the condition of the height of the solar panel on the roof. 12 inches is permitted, whereas a maximum of 12, actually it's 12. Yeah. 12.3 inches is, is proposed. Um, with this application where you're also speaking a spied yard setback variance, um, 15 is proposed and due to the proximity of this parking lot next to the parking lot of the adjacent property they are. Um, co-joined essentially. So we were seeking a variance for that. Um, we are also seeking a variance from the plug-in electric vehicle charging stations and a variance for the two parking spaces, um, which we are eliminating in order to install the dumpster. And then there is a Prius, there is an existing 10 foot high fence. Speaker 7 00:51:02 Um, whereas a six foot fence is proposed. So we are seeking a variance for the installation of that fence. It was not installed by us, but it was brought up in Mr. Henderson's report. So we were seeking a variance for that. Um, I think it's fair to say that, um, we will be seeking a modification of that variance request for the plug-in electric vehicle charging stations to ask for a variance, um, for the number of, uh, plugin, uh, parking spaces to be reduced to five and that they be allowed to be installed within the next two years. Um, Speaker 8 00:51:46 Susan, just to just to say this, this site actually requires five. We may want to request reducing it to three if we can. Speaker 7 00:51:55 Okay. All right. Well, thanks for that. And we'll have some, no, no, I'm sorry. It will have some testimony on that. Um, um, my witness, my witness tonight is cliff quake. Um, we have your report who is going to be providing professional planning and engineering customer journey. We have the report from minister Henderson team on this site as well. And, um, we will be able to, we have, I know Mr has worked with him, um, and we can, um, confirm that we will agree to, uh, continue to work with Mr. Henderson to comply with his report to his satisfaction. Um, so I would like to have, um, and I also have, uh, Chris Gorka in the event that there are any, um, other, uh, um, questions regarding the solar panels. Um, so what I would like to do at this point is have Mr quite sworn and he can provide the benefit of his, um, professional create, uh, his professional qualifications and his background. Okay. Speaker 8 00:52:57 Mr. Craig, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth? I do your name and address please. Uh, Clifton quake keyway Y 10,000 mid Atlantic drive, Mount Laurel New Jersey as your engineering or professional planning license been revoked in the past 20 minutes has not to the best of my knowledge. We can accept Mr. as an engineer and planner. Hey, great, please proceed. Speaker 7 00:53:26 Great. Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Cray. Um, just, just provide, uh, just a basic background of the, of the location of the lot, the size. Um, I already indicated what the zone was, the existing physical characteristics, um, the existing building, for example. And then if you can describe, uh, the proposed car port, Speaker 8 00:53:47 Certainly. So this sign actually sits immediately to the south of the one we just got done describing. And, um, and on this particular site, um, there is a, there's a shared parking lot. I mean, there's some crossovers there's islands down the middle. That's separated from the building that's immediately to the south of this. So we're dealing essentially with the north building and the north lot of these two buildings that sort of sit next to each other. Uh, the canopies are being proposed are in the rear lot. Um, and they are, uh, of a V-shaped design with central columns. Uh, that sit basically on what would be the center Stripe of the existing parking spaces. And, uh, you know, that'd be, um, going inward toward the middle of those spaces. Um, the relief that we require is because we don't meet the conditions of a conditional use on this. Speaker 8 00:54:46 Um, solar is permitted in this, in the zone and solar is also recognized as an apparently beneficial use, but, uh, the conditions we don't meet as restated was the overall height of the canopies. Uh, uh, 10 is maximum fan is required. Uh, we are seeking a maximum of 20.33 at the outside edge of the be reasons for that are related to clearance of, you know, trucks coming through the lot. So that there's enough, you know, there's enough ground clearance under there, you know, as you get back into the bead and get, get, uh, get a truck around it without hitting the canopy. Um, in addition, the rooftop solar, uh, because of the slight pitch that's on those panels, uh, has an overall height of 12.3 inches. And the conditional use requires that no more than 12 inches is permitted above the rooftop. This is a flat roof building. Speaker 8 00:55:41 And, uh, I don't believe that that, that, that deviation, that diminimous deviation of 0.3 inches is going to, uh, create any additional visibility of these panels from the ground plane. And once again, this is a, you know, this is a three-story three story building. Um, we, I had the opportunity to meet on site when Mr to review his letters and his comments, and, uh, and you know, I'm comfortable that we're going to be able to work out, uh, you know, satisfactory resolution to the issues in his letter, based on both our site visit and my follow-up call with him, uh, yesterday. And, um, then the other, you know, the other, uh, variances, you know, related to a side setback of three feet where a minimum of 15 feet is required. This is really, this is on the common property line that runs down the middle of the parking lot. Speaker 8 00:56:33 So it's a bit of a technical variance because this is a, you know, this is a lot that sort of blends into each other, but it's got a property line running down the middle of it. Um, so, uh, you know, that, that, I'll talk a little bit about the criteria, why I think that variance is appropriate in a minute. Um, outside of that, the one other variants that was identified, or two others that were identified as part of the review letter by Mr. or that there is an existing chiller that is in the parking lot in the back that has a fenced enclosure around it is basically a screening fence. And that fence is 10 feet in height. I believe the ordinance and does not allow anything over six. And I was not aware of any evidence that when that fence went in, it got a variance. Speaker 8 00:57:21 So we're seeking that variance to the extent that we need it for basically an existing non-conformance, um, the fence itself, I think from the, the height of it's appropriate for screening the equipment that's inside it. Um, it currently has some barbed wire on the top that we were going to remove as part of this, which was also one of the comments in the letter. There's also some, some repairs that we're going to do to that as part of the, uh, you know, part of the application, but we would like it to remain at 10 feet. And I think that the height of that given the height of the equipment inside, which is frankly, just a hair over that 10 feet is a, is appropriate for screening that mechanical equipment that services the building. Um, the other item is, uh, similar to our previous application where the, uh, two parking spaces will be taken up to build a formal enclosure for the dumpsters that sit in the lot currently. Speaker 8 00:58:13 So to the extent that we require it, um, we're seeking a reduction in two parking spaces on the lot, the current lot as, uh, somewhere in excess of 257 spaces. And once again, I don't believe that we have any issue with having enough parking spaces on the slot, um, and that, that reduction of two and the, and the associated variants that may be required to go with that could be granted without any, without any detriment to the overall function of the building. And as a matter of fact, I think your ordinance currently requires five spaces per thousand on office space. Uh, tranquilly based on current standards. And I think the changing face of however your office is going to operate in the future is probably a little higher than it might ultimately be as time goes on. Um, so, you know, I do believe that all these variances, uh, can be granted, um, the, the benefits of installing the solar panels. Speaker 8 00:59:12 I, you know, I think we're clear, you know, with providing alternative energy with providing a stable energy source to the owner of the building. This is once again, a zero meter situation where, uh, you know, the, the canopies will provide, uh, in excess of 90% of the power needs for the building on an annual basis. Um, and then it also provides, you know, a building in the community with clean energy, uh, which is certainly beneficial. So on the negative side, I believe that all these variances can be granted without any substantial detriment to the public good or any substantial impingement, the zone plan or zoning ordinance. Um, and that the benefits in my mind clearly outweigh any detriments, um, for, for the installation. So Susan's or anything I missed there. Speaker 7 01:00:01 No, I think you covered it. Uh, I would just like some clarification with regard to the number of core ports, the number of charging stations that are required and, and, um, I believe you said it was five, so yeah, Speaker 8 01:00:14 So, yeah, so there's there, there per the ordinance or five required. If we're going to follow the same metric as we did on the previous application, then we would be looking at either two or three at the board's discretion, um, you know, and to, to be placed, uh, you know, within, within a two year period of memorialization, the app of the, of the resolution, Speaker 4 01:00:41 My suggestion to the board would probably be, uh, let's try to keep it at four. Um, reason being, again, I just feel like electric vehicles will continue to grow. Um, I think the ordinance, to be honest with you is, is set up pretty well, uh, for, I think that that growing, uh, future growing demand for electric vehicle charging stations, and again, the last site 11 was, was quite a bit, but again, everything's based on the size of the, of the buildings. So I be a little hesitant to go less than before, uh, in this particular case. Um, that's my personal opinion. I'll let the board come to their own conclusion, but if you're spending the effort to put them in, um, I, you know, I would err on the side of being a little bit more, um, overburdened with, uh, charging stations, then, then under burden with them. Um, since I think that's sort of the trend that we're seeing, Speaker 1 01:01:43 Mr. Chadwick, nothing. Okay. Any other board members have any questions for this application? Speaker 12 01:01:51 The same condition as for anti-glare? Speaker 1 01:01:56 Yeah, I was going to offer that wording as well. I'm suggesting that they will encouraging that they use the anti glare, and I think Henry's recommendation of four charging stations is, uh, what I would be comfortable with to gain an approval of this application. Uh, here we, no one else on the board going to open it to the public, anyone in the public portion of any questions for this application application or any comments is Buckley. Speaker 13 01:02:27 Hello? Yeah, I'm here. Speaker 2 01:02:29 Okay. Mr. Rock, could you raise your right hand? Yes. You swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. Yes. Your name and address please. Brian Speaker 13 01:02:37 Rack 1247 Brookside road. Speaker 2 01:02:39 Thank you. Speaker 13 01:02:41 Uh, I just had a question. If you're going to require them put in four charging stations that have five, could you require them to bury the electrical conduit needed for the fifth charging station? So that if in the future, like two years from now, they want to put in the fifth, the conduits already there, and they can comply without excavation or digging or anything. Speaker 2 01:03:04 Certainly if the board saw fit to require that they could do that. Okay. Speaker 13 01:03:08 I just think that would be helpful. Cause then, Hey, the conduits already in the ground, conduits cheap, uh, excavation is the expensive part. So that was all him Speaker 4 01:03:17 Necessarily know that new conduit would even be required. I think once you're running the conduit out to the, to the charging stations, um, you can use that same conduit probably to feed more than the four, um, charging stations, if need be or there's there would be a junction box. I would imagine that they could use so, but we could look at that for sure. And I think the applicant would have any issue with Speaker 9 01:03:45 It's just used to back our pantry. He's correct. It's basically a big extension cord and then you just break off from it. Speaker 1 01:03:54 Thanks. Thank you, Brian. Any other matters? Speaker 9 01:03:58 I don't know. Did we deal with the lights? Did I miss something? I know, I know we dealt with the glare. Speaker 1 01:04:06 No, we did not talk about lights. Speaker 2 01:04:09 Right. Would you agree to the same condition on this application as we talked about in the last application that Speaker 7 01:04:14 This shut off time would be Speaker 2 01:04:18 At the end of working hours, except for a few security lights. Speaker 7 01:04:21 Purity. Okay. Yes, that's definitely except Speaker 1 01:04:28 Thank you, Mr. Bright. Anyone else to public now, sir? Okay. Public portions closed. Um, I would make a suggestion. I would make an offer an approval of this application with the four charging stations and all the language you used in the prior application, as far as lighting and anti-glare. So I would make a motion to approve a second. Please call the roll. Speaker 0 01:04:54 Mr. Zimmerman. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando. Yes. Mr. Ellie and chairman Cahill. Speaker 2 01:05:08 Right? We will also memorialize this one on July 8th. Speaker 7 01:05:11 Thank you so much. Thank you for your attention. All right. Nice to see everyone and enjoy the rest Speaker 1 01:05:18 Of your summer. Thank you. You as well, take care of 13 number 13. Speaker 2 01:05:27 Uh, the first resolution is Jeanette Ponce. This was application was approved. Mr. Zimmerman was the Weissman. Yes. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Rondo Mr. Cahill. Yes. Next is Muhammad . This application was approved. Mr. Zimmerman was the Weissman. Mr. Reggio? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Rondo Jeremy K. Hill. Yes. Next is Hugo Checo. And this application was approved. Mr. Zimmerman Weissman for Reggio Patel. Mr. Mirando, Jeremy Cahill. Yes. Next resolution Lewis and rose Vila. This application was approved. Mr. Zimmerman? Yes. The Weissman Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Rondo? Yes. Kevin Cahill. Yes. Uh, last resolution, Cynthia Parker rebuild the damage to the fire damaged house. Uh, Mr. Zimmerman. The Weissman. Yes. Mr. Origio. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Mirando. Kevin Cahill. Yes, those are all the resolutions I have for this evening. Speaker 1 01:06:43 Let's go to item number 14 at the auction. The minutes from the regular meeting of June 10th, 2021. All in favor. Let's move on to item. Number 15, a German own favor will pose once again. 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