Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on September 22 2022
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Speaker 0 00:00:00 Christopher arm, join the meeting. Speaker 1 00:00:32 Okay. Mr. Chairman, we are ready. Speaker 2 00:00:34 Okay. Let's do this zoning board of adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available to the Township clerk notice sent to the courier news and the star ledger will the clerk please call the roll. Speaker 1 00:00:56 Mr. Weisman Speaker 2 00:00:59 Here. Speaker 1 00:01:01 Mr. Tillery Speaker 2 00:01:02 Here. Speaker 1 00:01:03 Mr. Patel. Speaker 0 00:01:04 Here. Speaker 1 00:01:06 MRIO Speaker 2 00:01:07 Here. Speaker 1 00:01:08 Mr. Dacey Speaker 2 00:01:09 Here. Speaker 1 00:01:11 Mr. Haka Speaker 2 00:01:12 Here, Speaker 1 00:01:14 Mr. Ellie and Chairman Cahill Speaker 2 00:01:18 Here. We'll please stand for pledge allegiance pledge allegiance. Mr. Cahill, are there any changes to the agenda? Speaker 3 00:01:45 Yes. There are the application of Sada Sadaf IU Cali nine Wembley place is adjourned until October 13th, 2022 with no further notice. And the application of 100 Lakeview rear at 100 Lakeview avenue is postponed to October 13th. That applicant must notice. Those are all the changes that I have. Speaker 2 00:02:07 Thank you, Mr. Chaill. Let's get it rolling with number 5 22 dash ZB dash 62 V Michael D Kael Speaker 3 00:02:16 Is Mr. Kael present. Speaker 4 00:02:18 We are present. Speaker 3 00:02:20 Good evening. I need to swear you in. Could you reach, raise your right hand? You swear that testimony you're about to give should be the truth, so help you. Speaker 4 00:02:27 We do. We do Speaker 3 00:02:28 Thank you one at a time. Could I have your names please? Speaker 4 00:02:32 Michael David Kael Speaker 0 00:02:36 NATA. Speaker 3 00:02:37 Thank you. Could one of you explain to the board what you'd like to do here. Speaker 4 00:02:42 We're trying to replace our fence. It has become a dangerous and starting to rot. And in the process we found out that it was built on a easement. So we're just going through the variance process to make sure we can replace our fence legally. Speaker 3 00:03:00 And you understand that if the Township ever needs access to that easement, you would be responsible for the cost of re taking the defense down and replacing it. Speaker 1 00:03:08 Yep. Speaker 3 00:03:09 Okay. Mr. Chairman, I don't have anything else. Speaker 2 00:03:12 Mr. Anderson, any comments Speaker 5 00:03:16 Mr. Chairman I's report here and his recommendations exactly the same as Jim's and it conforms to the master plan with respect, the land use and circulation. Speaker 2 00:03:29 Great. Thank you, John. Anyone else on the board have any questions or comments about this application? Hearing none. I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? No one Chairman. No. Okay. Public portion is closed. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Speaker 1 00:03:54 Mr. Weisman. Speaker 2 00:03:58 You muted Steve? Yeah. I sorry. Speaker 1 00:04:02 You that's okay. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Speaker 2 00:04:06 Yes. Speaker 1 00:04:06 Mr. Reggio? Speaker 2 00:04:08 Yes. Speaker 1 00:04:08 Mr. Brown. Speaker 2 00:04:10 Yes. Speaker 1 00:04:10 Mr. Hidaka. Yes. And Chairman Koo. Speaker 2 00:04:13 Yes. Speaker 3 00:04:15 Your application's been approved. We will memorialize it in a document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We'll mail that document to you, but you'll need that for your permits. Speaker 1 00:04:24 Thank you. Thank you Speaker 2 00:04:25 So much, guys. Thank you. Okay, let's go to number 6, 22 ZB there. 63, Anton and Naisha Sinclair Speaker 3 00:04:37 Are Anton and Naisha Sinclair here. Speaker 6 00:04:40 Yes we are. Speaker 3 00:04:41 Are you both gonna be testifying Speaker 6 00:04:45 If need be? Yes. Speaker 3 00:04:47 Well, why don't I swear both of you in, could you RERA your right hand? You swear the testimony you're give be the Speaker 6 00:04:54 Yes. Speaker 3 00:04:55 Thank you. One at a time. I your and address please. Speaker 6 00:04:59 5 26 Willow avenue. Speaker 3 00:05:04 Could you explain to board you'd like here, Speaker 6 00:05:07 We would like to add a garage and convert our current garage and I apologize. And to do so. The addition will be 7.7 0.82 feet away from our property line. Exceeding the 10 point to 10 foot expectation. Speaker 3 00:05:30 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll note that Mr. Henderson's report indicates he has no concerns with this application. Speaker 2 00:05:36 Okay. Anyone else on the board have any questions or comments about this application? Hearing? None. I'd like to open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions or comments about this application? Speaker 1 00:05:50 No one Chairman. Speaker 2 00:05:51 Okay. Ms. Buckley close the public portion and I'll make a motion to approve this application. Speaker 1 00:05:56 A Speaker 2 00:05:58 Thank you again, Speaker 1 00:06:01 Mr. Weisman. Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. MRIO. Speaker 3 00:06:08 Yes. Speaker 1 00:06:09 Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Hey DAKA. Yes. And Chairman Cahill. Speaker 2 00:06:14 Yes. Speaker 3 00:06:15 Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We'll mail that document to you and you'll need that to get your permits. Speaker 1 00:06:26 Thank you. Thank you. Have a good luck. Thank Speaker 2 00:06:28 You. Have Speaker 1 00:06:28 A good night. Ma'am have a good night. Naisha as well. Thank you, Laura. Thank you. Speaker 2 00:06:32 Let's go to item number 7 22 days, ZB there, 71 V as Chaill Asho girl. Gary Speaker 3 00:06:40 Is Mr. Aja. Gary present. Speaker 7 00:06:42 Yes. Speaker 3 00:06:43 I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Speaker 7 00:06:49 Yes, sir. Speaker 3 00:06:50 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you'd like to do here? Speaker 7 00:06:53 We are in the process of selling the house and it was determined that the pool was required 10 feet, I think from the property edge and a for zoning purposes. And we had to go through this variance process. So the pool has been in existence since we purchased the house in 2005. So, so it came as a surprise that the permit was not there in the first place. So just going through the motion of following the Township guidance, Speaker 3 00:07:33 There was some indication of the, she had been removed. Has that in fact been removed? Speaker 7 00:07:36 Yes, sir. It, it has been, I shared the photograph with Ms. Buckley, Speaker 2 00:07:45 Henry, you have any comments Speaker 8 00:07:48 Just that? Do you know if there's the building permits were ever secured police department ever say that you had copies of any permits for this Bullard? Speaker 7 00:07:58 No, I from so obviously from a legal standpoint, everything seemed to go through. So I didn't even realize that there was an issue until we came to sell. So I, all the other permits seemed to be there, you know, in the house, I see the stickers, et cetera, but this was not something that was indicated to me, even by the Township that there was okay. Speaker 8 00:08:21 I don't have any issues with the variance pools in the area, in the, in the area, roughly the same setback. My only concern would be that the required building permits be secured for the pool that building department could do an inspection is to make sure that the pool was installed and is in compliance with code. Other than that, I have no issues. Speaker 2 00:08:46 We make that part of the language, Jim. Speaker 3 00:08:48 Yes, I will. I'll make that a condition. Speaker 2 00:08:50 Awesome. Anyone else have any comments or questions for this application or this applicant hearing none. I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions for this application or applicant Speaker 3 00:09:04 Or comments Speaker 2 00:09:05 Or comments? Sorry. Speaker 1 00:09:07 No one raising their hand Chairman. That's Speaker 2 00:09:09 Great. Okay. Close the public portion and I will make a motion to approve this application with the stipulation that Henry outlined. And Jim's gonna tell us about Speaker 1 00:09:18 Out a second. Speaker 3 00:09:20 The condition is the applicant obtain all necessary inspections, permits, and approvals for the pool. Speaker 2 00:09:27 Okay. Speaker 1 00:09:30 Mr. Weisman, Mr. Tillery, Mr. Patel? Yes. MRIO. Yes. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Hey DACA. Yes. And Chairman kale. Speaker 2 00:09:43 Yes. Speaker 3 00:09:44 Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We'll mail that to you, but you'll need that to get your inspections. Speaker 1 00:09:53 Got it. Speaker 2 00:09:55 Have a great night, sir. Thank Speaker 1 00:09:57 You very much. Speaker 2 00:09:58 Let's move along to item number 8 22, CB 66 Manji. Speaker 3 00:10:07 I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Speaker 1 00:10:10 Yes. Speaker 3 00:10:11 You, the testimony you're about to do is this. Speaker 1 00:10:15 Yes. Speaker 3 00:10:16 Could I have your name and address please? Speaker 9 00:10:17 Man. Cahill three vest Corp is CA new. Speaker 3 00:10:22 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would like to do here, Speaker 9 00:10:27 Like to resurface existing deck and have 16 by 16 roof structure over it on existing deck Speaker 2 00:10:43 Henry? Speaker 1 00:10:45 Yeah. Speaker 8 00:10:45 This application really the only issue is, is I think a stipulation or condition should be put on any approval that, that the cover over the deck, the fixing by 16 coverage does not ever have walls added to it, to close it and have it become inferior space, living space. Yeah. So as long as they agree to keep it open, I don't see any issues with it. Also the, the pillars that are in the right of way near the driveway in the front, the same language, they have to understand that for some reason, the attachment needs to do any work in the easement or right of way. In this case, we're not responsible for those pillars. Any costs associated with removal and replacement of those pillars would be homeowners. Speaker 3 00:11:32 Ms. Jaggy, do you understand those conditions? Speaker 1 00:11:34 Yes. Speaker 3 00:11:35 And you're agreeable to those? Speaker 1 00:11:37 Yes. Speaker 3 00:11:37 Thank you. Speaker 2 00:11:39 Any other members of the board have any questions for this application hearing none. I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? Speaker 1 00:11:52 No one Chairman. Speaker 2 00:11:53 Okay. Close the public portion. I'll make a motion to approve this application with the stipulations that Henry outlined Speaker 1 00:12:00 A second. Speaker 2 00:12:03 Ms. Call Speaker 1 00:12:04 Mr. Weisman. Yes. Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. MRIO. Yes. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Hay. DACA. Yes. And Chairman Cahill. Speaker 2 00:12:18 Yes. Speaker 3 00:12:20 Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We'll mail that document to you, but you'll need that to get your permits. Good luck. Speaker 1 00:12:29 Thank you. Speaker 2 00:12:31 We'll to item number 9 22 dash ZB dash 70 V. Richard and Elizabeth Snyder. Speaker 3 00:12:41 I believe if we have Mr. Wiley representing the Speaker 10 00:12:43 That's correct. I'm sorry. That break the depth at getting heard. Yes. John Wiley I'm appearing on behalf of the applicant tonight will have two witnesses, the Snyders, as well as the architect, essentially, this was triggered by our desire to go into the existing garage and install a mud and a bathroom. The consequence of that is that we would not comply to the required garage space under your ordinance. In that we would have supposed to be 12 by 20, we have 13.6, two feet by 13.41. And we also have a number of existing conditions that because we ask for one variances triggers all the other existing variances, there would be there's a corner lock. So we have a 35 foot front yard setback. We only have 30 feet on the Metler side of the property and 29.5 feet on the Chester way. There's also a rear yard setback in that we have with our deck 20 feet rear yard setback with our existing deck. And we also, because we're on a corner lot, have an area of fence in the front yard set, which on, I guess, a Chester side that is hired in the four feet existing fence, six feet. There's also a small shed. That's shown is one and 1.2 feet from the property line, as opposed to your of three. I don't know whether Richard or Elizabeth wants to be sworn in, but one or the two of you have to be sworn in. Speaker 2 00:14:48 I'll go for it. Speaker 3 00:14:50 Could you, could you read right hand? You swear that testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Speaker 11 00:14:55 Yes. Speaker 3 00:14:56 Your, your name please. Speaker 11 00:14:57 Elizabeth Snyder. Speaker 3 00:15:00 Thank you. Speaker 10 00:15:02 When did you buy this property? On Metler lane? Speaker 11 00:15:06 We closed on June 30th, 2021. I'm so happy. Speaker 10 00:15:11 Okay. And there's a survey that's been submitted to the board. Is that the condition of the property when bought it? Speaker 11 00:15:23 Yes. No, the fence wasn't there. Oh, oh, actually my husband brought something up. Okay. There was fence that had been removed and we in last November, November of 2021, we submitted a project to the town and they approved it and we have since then put up a four foot C through fence. So they have, they, they have my paperwork for that. That was submitted in November and the fence was completed in approved. So that's the only Speaker 10 00:15:50 Change on that side. I guess we probably don't need a fence vari, but the shed is where it was. Speaker 11 00:15:59 Yes. Yes. That was all. We haven't done anything with that. Speaker 10 00:16:02 All right. And your proposal is to not change the footprint of the, at all, is that correct? Speaker 11 00:16:08 Correct. Speaker 10 00:16:09 And that the present paved, well, how many bedrooms do you have in a house? Present. Speaker 11 00:16:16 Three. Speaker 10 00:16:17 Okay. And that's what you to continue, correct? Speaker 11 00:16:20 Correct. Speaker 10 00:16:22 And there is no basement that this house is that Speaker 11 00:16:25 Correct? It's slab. Speaker 10 00:16:27 And in terms of the paved driveway, can you fit two vehicles in that Speaker 11 00:16:35 Driveway space? I have bit six vehicles in my driveway. Okay. Speaker 10 00:16:40 In terms of your actual front door, is that located on the Metler lane side of the Speaker 11 00:16:46 Property? No, it's on, oh, yes. Metler sorry. Got confused. Yes. Speaker 10 00:16:50 Okay. Speaker 11 00:16:52 My front door. Speaker 10 00:16:53 Okay. Very good. And you presently have one bathroom, the house, is that correct? Speaker 11 00:17:01 That was the only thing about my house that was missing a second bathroom, correct? One bathroom Speaker 10 00:17:07 And hired architect to prepare a, a, a bathroom as well as a mud room in a portion of your garage? Speaker 11 00:17:22 Yes, because he pointed out that if I made the bathroom, there would be no access to the back door. So he said you have to kind of do it all together. That's why I paid for an architect. Speaker 10 00:17:33 Right. And have you ever used your garage for vehicles? Speaker 11 00:17:37 No. Okay. It's totally storage. And my husband's like tools. All right. Don't tell anybody he has tools. Speaker 10 00:17:45 All right. And your intention here is the balance of the, is not the room. Not the bathroom would used for storage. I tool. I have questions. This witness, if there's any board members question Speaker 8 00:18:08 Mr. Cahill. Speaker 2 00:18:09 Yeah. I might be to Speaker 8 00:18:11 Help out with this, although I'd love to hear Mr. Marcel's testimony. I really don't think it's necessary. I really don't have any issues with this application. The only concern I had most of theses were preexisting. The driveway being able to handle two wall street parking spaces was really my main concern. They testified that that's the case. Continue to look like a garage. It just won't have the full, the normal garage from appearance-wise they'll they'll have that garage appearance. They'll have the two off street parking spaces and all of the other variances are preexisting. I really don't see any issues with this application. Speaker 2 00:18:52 Thank you, Henry. Don't Speaker 10 00:18:55 I don't wanna rebut any of his testimony. Speaker 2 00:18:58 I don't blame you. I think quite honestly, based on Mr. Interesting's testimony, we, we could move ahead with a vote at this point. Is that okay, Jim? You open it to the public and then a vote. Perfect. Yeah. Anyone on the board have any more questions for this applicant or comments hearing none. No, this application Buckley. Speaker 1 00:19:27 You're breaking up Chairman. It's now open to the public. Speaker 2 00:19:30 It is open to the public. Yeah. Do you see anyone? Speaker 1 00:19:33 No, sir. Speaker 2 00:19:34 Okay. Close the public portion and I would make a motion to approve this application with the comments from Mr. Interesting Speaker 12 00:19:42 On second. Speaker 2 00:19:43 Thank you, Speaker 1 00:19:48 Mr. Weisman. Yes. Mr. Tillery, Mr. Patel? Speaker 12 00:19:53 Yes. Speaker 1 00:19:54 MRIO. Speaker 2 00:19:55 Yes. Speaker 1 00:19:56 Mr. Dacey Blount. Speaker 2 00:19:58 Yes. Speaker 1 00:19:58 Mr. Dacey. Speaker 2 00:19:59 Yes. Speaker 1 00:20:00 And Chairman Cahill. Speaker 2 00:20:02 Yes. Mr. Wiley, we will memorialize this next meeting. Speaker 10 00:20:06 Thank you very much. Speaker 2 00:20:08 Okay. Can I let's move on. Item number of 11, which is 22 dash ZB dash 35 slash 36 V Jr. Ventures. Speaker 12 00:20:25 Good evening. Chairman members of the board board professionals. My name is Tim arch. I'm an attorney licensed in the state of New Jersey. I'm here representing Jr ventures, LLC. We're here tonight requesting some bulk variances, but mostly it's the, it's the permission to use outdoor storage on the site, or to continue to use outdoor storage on the site. We have trailers and shipping containers, as well as there's some outdoor storage at the rear of the, the building that we'll be talking about. I have two witnesses tonight, Joel ASAT, who is our representative from Jr ventures. And also Mr. Craig Sters who's our engineer. I was provided with two reports tonight, Mr. Chadwick's report of June 28th that Mr. Hinterstein of August 9th. And so I'll be referring to those in my testimony, but since it sounds like everybody wants to move efficiently tonight, I'll move to my first witness. If that's okay with you, Speaker 3 00:21:23 Please do. Speaker 12 00:21:26 I would call Mr. Joel SSAT to be, to be sworn in. Speaker 3 00:21:31 Please, could you raise your right hand? You swear that testimony you're about to give should be the Speaker 13 00:21:35 Truth. Speaker 3 00:21:36 Yes. Your name and address Speaker 13 00:21:38 Please. My home address, Speaker 3 00:21:40 Your business address is Speaker 13 00:21:41 Fine. Okay. Joel, Lazzo 1 36, 11 street, Piscataway Speaker 3 00:21:46 New Jersey. Thank you, Speaker 12 00:21:49 Mr. Za, if you can please tell us what your position is with Jr ventures and give us a brief explanation of what the, what the business is in that location. Speaker 13 00:22:00 Sure. I've been employed by Theono family for 35 years. Epic management is housed at this location as it has been for 51 years. Epic is the building contracting company that is based here established by Bob epi. We're now in our third generation of family ownership, we are a general building contracting company building throughout the state of New Jersey for public and private entities. We employ upwards of 250 people on a regular basis. Over the years, we've probably done about a billion dollars worth of work for Rutgers Rutgers, the state university. He have been at this location since the beginning of the company, almost the beginning. Bob started the company at his house on Haywood avenue in Piscataway predating. Our existence at this location was LN Rothberg, also a building contracting company. Speaker 12 00:23:00 So you're a fly by night operation that, that isn't gonna be there very long, right? Is that no, you've been there a while. So the reason that we're here tonight is to ask, to continue to use the back of the property for outdoor storage of some materials as well as we have storage containers and some trailers out there currently. Is that correct? Speaker 13 00:23:20 That is correct. Speaker 12 00:23:21 All right. And with the board's permission, I'm gonna share my screens that we have something to look at while we go through some testimony. Can everybody see the, the map that I have up? Yes Speaker 3 00:23:32 We can. Yes. Mr. Arch, was this part of your submission package? Speaker 12 00:23:36 No, we can mark this as a one. This is a, a Google map, aerial image of the, of the site that I pulled today. And I can provide that to, to miss Buckley. Thank you. That'll be. So Mr. Za, is this, this is the, an aerial view of, of epic management's property, is that correct? Speaker 13 00:23:54 Yes, that is correct. Speaker 12 00:23:55 Okay. And if you could see my cursor there in terms of the storage, we're really talking about this back area here. You can see there's some trailers storage and some minor items that are stored here in the rear portion of the property, correct? Speaker 13 00:24:09 That is correct. Speaker 12 00:24:10 Okay. And if you look at the, at, at sort of the areas around you, obviously this area that's up here contains some significant outdoor storage, but you are, you're consistent with the industrial light industrial use in that area. Is that correct? Speaker 13 00:24:26 Yes. Speaker 12 00:24:27 Okay. And this buffering down here on the, on the back of the property, this foliage, and then your property, a butts up to the railroad track here and then additional foliage. And then I believe that's new market pond behind. Is that accurate? Speaker 13 00:24:44 That is correct. Speaker 12 00:24:46 Okay. So let's talk about the items that we intend to store in the back there. Can you tell us, in terms of, we're asking for some outdoor storage of materials, which will be exposed sort of to the elements, and then we're asking for some materials to be stored inside those storage containers or trailers in the back there. Can you give the board an idea of what is that we're proposing in both those locations? Speaker 13 00:25:15 Yes. Well, as a building contractor, we naturally have job sites. This is our headquarters location, but the vast majority of our work is done at project sites. So we're constantly and continuously moving things in and out of our shop warehouse to the job sites outside. And we also self perform trades work. So we employ union crafts, people for carpentry trades, which necessitates the variety of tools and equipment that we're referencing here, outside things are okay to be in the weather if you will. So items that we would store include ladders, scaffolding, gang boxes, which store tools, wheeled, garbage cans that we would bring to the job sites A-frames, which are, are metal parts that we put drywall on plastic disposal shoots that you would see going outside of a building to take debris out, some various safety equipment, some miscellaneous steel studs, not a ton, cuz most of them are generally delivered straight to the job site. But if we have extras, they would be stored here on rack and then miscellaneous smallish dumpsters that would we be moving in and out. Speaker 12 00:26:35 Okay. And then in terms of the items that, that you're intending or that you do keep inside the storage containers and the trailers, can you tell us what those items are generally used? Speaker 13 00:26:43 For sure. And again, those would be weather sensitive, so we can't keep those outside. And because we run so many project sites, we have a reason to store quite a bit of, of these things, such as insulation sheet rock again, leftover or to be used for a variety of purposes. Most of it's delivered direct to the job site, but we do have Sheetrock at all times, job site, office equipment, naturally each one of our project sites requires a trailer. Those trailers are no longer stored here in the past. They were, that's not a situation today, but each job site office needs to be fit out. So we do have to store desk style, cabinets, chairs, et cetera, small equipment, weather, sensitive, vacuums lights, things that we would use inside building once we're in there. And then unfortunately for our business, we have a humongous amount of record storage requirements. So that is also part of what we need to store. Speaker 12 00:27:45 Okay. So nothing, nothing that you mentioned there is anything that would be considered dangerous or offensive hazardous, anything along those lines? Speaker 13 00:27:54 No, not at all. And, and frankly, none of it is really big in and of itself. You know, they're all relatively small pieces, but there's quite a few of them. Speaker 12 00:28:04 Okay. So Mr. LASA, I'm gonna show you a picture, is this, and I believe this was provided if it wasn't, we'll mark it as a two, but I believe this was provided to the packet I, Laura is looking like it. Isn't so we'll mark it. Let's mark that as a two please. And I'll certainly provide that to miss Buckley. Mr. LSAT, is this a, is this a picture that's indicative of the, of the sort of back outdoor storage that you're talking about? Speaker 13 00:28:31 Yes. You can see nothing is up high and we do need to move it in and out. We need to know where it is and we need to, to put it back where it's supposed to be. So by the essence of our business, we need to keep it orderly and neat selfishly for our own purposes. So yeah, this is essentially what it looks like on a regular basis for sometimes there's more, sometimes there's less. Speaker 12 00:28:55 Okay. And we agree that we're gonna keep them. You mentioned that they're organized in neat. Obviously we would agree that we're gonna keep them organize neat, clean. We're not gonna be stacking or, or making piles or anything along those lines, is that correct? Speaker 13 00:29:11 No, no. That's part of the warehouse. Manager's jobs to make sure that this is readily accessible, that things are well maintained and, and kept up. So we can continue to provide our job sites with the, the equipment that they need. Speaker 12 00:29:24 Okay. I'm gonna stop sharing my screen now. And I'm gonna go through the two reports with you, Mr. Lasette. If we can start with Mr. Hinterstein report, there are nine bullet points on there. And if we can address the, the first one is that Mr. Stein's indicating that there's four parking spaces that are shown in a Township easement on the, on the site plan. And we looked into that and our records indicated that the road was vacated. And there's maybe a question as to what the ownership interest is, where those four spaces are, are being shown. But in any event, if it does, if it is in fact in a Township easement, that would require us to request that variance. And so for the, for the sake of, of being cautious so that we don't have to come back here and again, in the future, we'd be asking the board to approve those four spaces in the Township easement. If in fact that turns out to be the case, is that correct? Speaker 13 00:30:22 That is Speaker 12 00:30:23 Correct. Okay. And those and those have been there and they, they haven't caused any sort of issue. These aren't new spaces that we're, that we're proposing to be placed. There they're existing spaces that have existed for years, Speaker 13 00:30:34 Many years, many years. Speaker 12 00:30:37 Number two is the applicant should comply with the EV EV charging stations. As I believe the Township professionals are aware, there was a recent DCA interpret department of Cahn Cahn, consumer affairs, interpretation of the state's EV statute as to whether or not it applies, obviously if it applies to this type of application, if it applies to what we'll do. And we'll certainly comply with that, is that correct? Speaker 13 00:31:05 That is correct. Speaker 12 00:31:07 Yes. There's a request for a five foot wide temporary construction easement provided we have no issue providing that, correct? Speaker 13 00:31:15 Correct. Speaker 12 00:31:17 Okay. There's also a permanent corner rounding easement that is being requested. We have no issue providing that as well. Correct? Speaker 13 00:31:24 Correct. Speaker 12 00:31:26 They're requesting sidewalks to be installed along the road frontages. And we agree to do that as well, correct? Speaker 13 00:31:32 Correct. Speaker 12 00:31:35 They are requesting that we don't stack any of the storage containers. Currently. Some of them are, are stacked on top of another, in a double stack. And we would agree that we would not be stacking these as a condition if we were approved. Is that correct? Speaker 13 00:31:48 That's correct. There are two stacked now and they would no longer be stacked. Speaker 12 00:31:51 Okay. There, Mr. Interesting's also asking that there be an eight foot solid fence along the rear property line to, to screen, as we saw there's there's significant foliage and buffering that's along there. But as Mr. Interesting pointed out in one of our discussions that in the winter months, the, the, the leaves, obviously aren't, wouldn't be on the branches. And so there is a, a possibility that somebody across on Lakeview might be able to see to the backyard. We agree that we would provide a, a solid buffering there there's actually already an eight foot fence that's there, but it's a, it's a non solid fence. Is that correct? It's a chain link fence. Speaker 13 00:32:33 That's correct. Speaker 12 00:32:34 Okay. And as part of this, we would agree that we would make modifications to that, that fence in order to, to make it a not see through, I guess is the, is the way to describe it. Yeah, that is correct. Okay. And again, there's plenty of buffering and stuff back there. It's, it's, it's likely that this is only something that would be affected during winter months when the, when the leaves are not there. I believe, I believe the last two is just discussion of items and if there's any documents. So I believe that addresses all of Mr. Hinterstein Mr. Chadwick report. Speaker 5 00:33:14 My report is dated June 20, correct? Ation that you not have outside storage, looking at the exhibit that you had on the screen. Did everyone hear me? Yes. Yes. Looking at the exhibit on the screen, it showed the outside storage all at the rear of the building. None of it on the side areas. Speaker 12 00:33:40 I believe. I believe if you look at, if I can bring up the, the map that I had before, wanna be clear there, it does. Speaker 5 00:33:51 Sorry, you ahead. Speaker 12 00:33:53 There we go. So Speaker 5 00:33:55 Why don't we get that photo shot to the back? It showed the equipment. Speaker 12 00:34:01 I can see if I can get that back up. You see that? Speaker 5 00:34:05 So there is, Speaker 12 00:34:06 If you see, I just wanna make sure that we're clear cuz I wanna make sure the resolution reflects it. Clearly the, the, there is a small area on the side of the building that's over here, where there can be some items that may be stored. And, and what I wanted to show on this is if you could see on the back where my cursor is, it sort of wraps around a little bit in a U. So there may be some items that are, that are stored there as well. I just wanna make sure that we're not restricting it to everything behind this, this portion of the building, but as far as the back of the lot, absolutely. It's it's far, far away from the, from the frontage on 11th street. Speaker 5 00:34:43 Right. I would agree to modify my report to the extent that it's in and that single narrow side area. I see no reason for start to encroach. I guess that would be the side of the building, right? Where you have you you're kinda moving the around there. Speaker 12 00:35:09 Well, so just to be clear, there are some, we are proposing to lead Speaker 5 00:35:15 Detainers, Speaker 12 00:35:16 Correct? Speaker 5 00:35:17 I didn't make any comment on the Speaker 12 00:35:18 Moment. Okay. So just Mr. Za, do you understand what Mr. Chadwick Chadwick is saying? He's indicating a condition that we keep the outdoor, the outdoor items, not the ones that are inside the containers to be relegated to behind where I guess the building break is. And that area, that small to the side there is that acceptable. Speaker 13 00:35:44 I mean, currently we have some small bits of things. I can't speak to exactly what in the area that is being referenced. You know, I guess in a perfect world, we would be able to keep some small things there. But if it's a condition of the variance, I believe willing to Speaker 5 00:36:08 Let interrupt, you're always have things based on the business that I, Speaker 14 00:36:19 So I'm having a hard time hearing you, Mr. Chadwick, you're breaking up a lot. I'm not sure why. Speaker 5 00:36:31 I don't, I don't know Jim. I mean, there's gonna be things that are gonna be dropped off. They might sit there for 24 hours and then head out to the job site. Again, I'm not concerned about that. I I'm concerned basically where they got the inventory back there and it's, it's probably gonna be not the same pieces, but the amount of inventory is gonna stay pretty. I would think constant Speaker 12 00:37:01 May, may I make a suggestion, Mr. Chadwick, in terms of language that might, that might satisfy your, your request. If we can, if we can agree that we would take efforts to consolidate any outdoor storage towards the back area of the property. Speaker 5 00:37:18 Very good. I accepted, Speaker 12 00:37:20 Consolidate or concentrate. Something like that I think would be acceptable. Correct. Speaker 5 00:37:25 The last item is evergreen plantings and I really punt to Henry on that think say necessary. Speaker 8 00:37:36 I think we're okay with it with in this particular. Speaker 12 00:37:43 Okay. I have, I've no further direct questions for Mr. Lassa. Speaker 2 00:37:48 Thank you, Mr. Arch, any other members of the board have any questions? Okay. Putting your next witness, Mr. Arch, are you done? Speaker 12 00:37:59 Our next witness is Mr. Sters who is sort of gonna go over the, the site plan. I don't know if, if Henry or Mr. Chadwick want to weigh in, if his testimony is necessary in terms of what we just heard similar to the last application, but yeah, Speaker 2 00:38:13 I think based on Henry's testimony and, and Mr. Chadwick as well, I think that we can actually move on without further testimony. Speaker 12 00:38:21 Thank you. Then Speaker 8 00:38:22 All the items have been agreed to, correct? Yeah. Speaker 12 00:38:25 I Speaker 8 00:38:27 Don't know. I think, I don't think anything else is really necessary. Speaker 2 00:38:30 Okay. Speaker 5 00:38:32 I agree. Speaker 2 00:38:33 When, when we know about the, the electric bump music, Speaker 12 00:38:40 I believe we have my understanding is that the DCA did issue an interpretation. I don't know if that was officially put down or not. They, their interpretation referenced a previous guidance that they had put out that they, that they say is clear. From my standpoint, as an attorney, nothing is clear. So they reference that, but their, their interpretation was that the state statue only applies to applications that are asking for new parking that are proposing new parking and new parking lots. And that, that was the intent. So I know that it's it's, I know that Senator Smith is, is trying to get something in a more official form so that that could be presented, but we do have emails and correspondence back and forth with DCA. That indicates that that was their intention. Speaker 3 00:39:33 Mr. Cahill, we could just include a condition that says if electric vehicle charging stations are required pursuant to state law, they must comply with it. Speaker 12 00:39:42 And we agree to that. Speaker 2 00:39:44 Great, great. Make it part of the language. I like it. Okay. Speaker 12 00:39:48 If I could just do a Speaker 2 00:39:49 Brief, please, Speaker 12 00:39:50 If best as it, Speaker 2 00:39:51 As long as it's brief Tim, Tim, Tim, Speaker 12 00:39:53 And it's gonna be brief, I'll read as quickly as I can. I, I gotta leave time for the next guy. Yes, we do. Speaker 2 00:40:00 You are the next guy. Speaker 12 00:40:01 Exactly. So the site, as you can see from the aerial it's uniquely situated to the type of rear yard outdoor storage surrounding uses are not residential rear portion is naturally buffered screen from view with significant distances. The Township is gonna benefit from allowing the outdoor use to continue as additional screening improvements. Industry frontages will resolve from an approval. Any perceived detriments are minimal best shown by the fact that the outdoor usage is present without complaint for a significantly long time. I'll note that this application I'll skip that part. Any detriments are mitigated by the addition of a solid rear screening and the unstacking of containers, ensuring that the use will go unnoticed for many years to come. Jr. Ventures is a good neighbor, a business that's made Piscataway home for decades. An example of the kind of long-term business. That town should be proud to cultivate. Speaker 2 00:40:55 All right. Any other questions or comments from the board hearing? None. I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? Speaker 1 00:41:10 No one Chairman. Speaker 2 00:41:11 Okay. I'm gonna close the public portion. I'm gonna make a motion to approve this application with the language or with the conditions that were set forth. Speaker 5 00:41:20 Second Blount. Speaker 1 00:41:24 Okay. Mr. Weisman. Speaker 5 00:41:26 Yes. Speaker 1 00:41:27 Mr. Tillery. Speaker 12 00:41:28 Yes. Speaker 1 00:41:28 Mr. Patel. Speaker 5 00:41:32 Yes. Speaker 1 00:41:33 Kalpesh. MRIO yes. Mr. Dacey. Yes. Mr. Dacey. Yes. And Chairman. Speaker 2 00:41:42 Yes. Alize this in our next meetings. George Speaker 1 00:41:46 I'm who seconded that motion. Rodney Blount. Thank you. Speaker 2 00:41:54 Okay. Let's dig our heels in and move on to number 1222, ZB dash 40 V. Christopher Armada. Speaker 12 00:42:02 Thank you. Members of the board and board professionals. My name is Tim arch attorney license of the state of New Jersey. And I am here representing Christopher Armada, who is the owner of four 16 Plainfield avenue. We are here tonight asking for a certification of preexisting nonconforming use or in the alternative, a use of variance. I know that it is the board's preference to generally put on the, the proofs for the preexisting nonconforming, and then see if those proofs were adequate, because that would obviate the need to move on to a, to a use variance. And so I would, I certainly have no issue with doing that. And that's how I'm going to present it tonight. I will state though that normally the, the there's generally no conditions that are attached to a preexisting nonconforming cert certification. It, it either is, or it isn't. I will note that in speaking with the staff professionals, there were two requests of the applicant concerning the property. Speaker 12 00:43:07 One is quite frankly, usually the thing that everybody's looking at or the board is looking at for two family uses or multi-family uses is, is there adequate parking as you'll see, there is an abundance of parking. And in fact, the request I believe from the Township professionals was that we remove a portion of the asphalt on site and replace it with either grass or landscaping. In addition to that, there was a request that there are some areas of the sidewalk that are potentially in need of repair and, and is asking us to make those repairs of any, any areas of the sidewalk that the Township might deem to be potentially hazardous. While I say normally those conditions would not come with a certification of preexisting nonconforming use for the sake of, of, of moving this along. And, and because quite frankly, we agree that those are some good ideas. We are agreeing voluntarily that we will be complying with those and that if the board wishes to make those conditions of the preexisting nonconforming, we are voluntarily agreeing to those. So I just wanted to put that on. Speaker 2 00:44:16 Thank you, Ms. Do Township does appreciate that. Speaker 12 00:44:19 Thank you. And we, we certainly appreciate that. It makes everything better. Speaker 2 00:44:25 Absolutely. Speaker 12 00:44:26 Please proceed. So one of the fun things that about preexisting nonconforming is that I get to talk more because mostly it's, it's based on the proofs that, that we found by going through the records. So I do want to briefly show you what the records are that we found. What we're asking for is that this be granted preexisting nonconforming use as a, as a two family or a two unit home, quite frankly, it's, it's, what's called a mother daughter or an in-law style home where you have two units for, you know, two families or two adults, couples to be living in the home. I'm gonna share my screen so that we can go through some of the fun stuff that I was able to find. Speaker 3 00:45:13 And Mr. Arch, the, the documents that you submitted to the board have been distributed to the board members. So they have seen these. So you perhaps you can cover them in a little brief more briefly Speaker 12 00:45:23 Then, you know what, I won't even share 'em cuz the pictures aren't that great. So, so I just wanna indicate just for the record, there is a 1940 census that indicates that Plainfield avenue, which is the home that we're talking about was inhabited by George push die, Mary push die, George Alexander and Victor, their sons and Florence, their daughter in 1946, we were able to find actually a wedding announcement indicating that Florence push die was getting married to Theodore. Neter also that document also confirmed that George and Mary push die resided at the four 16 Plainfield avenue. From there, we were able to find 1950 census data that actually showed that living in the house was George push die, Mary push eye, Theodore ninger their son-in-law and Florence Florence. Now ninger their daughter and this is really indicative of a multi-generational home. So you have two adult couples, two adult families living in, in the home. Speaker 12 00:46:24 That is, that is the, the, the hallmark of a mother daughter from there. And I don't know if this was actually provided, but I will just state that there, we did do some research into the property record assessments and there's a 1956 tax reevaluation card that actually shows that the property was assessed as a two family property in, in 1956. So again, more indication that it was assessed that way prior to the zoning in that area, we then found a deed from 1957, that transfers ownership from George to Arthur Reynolds and may Reynolds, husband and wife and general Reynolds and Florence Reynolds, husband, and wife. So again, you have now evidence of two adult families, two couples at the same location. We know from there, actually we were able to find by looking at some birth announcements from 1956, we know that general and Florence had at least one son at the time that they purchased this home, which again, that would presumably that one, that one small son would be living with them as well in their side of the house. Speaker 12 00:47:36 And incidentally not necessarily goes towards the usage, but I just thought it was fun to mention that Arthur and may Reynolds two years before they purchased this house, they were renting a third floor apartment that caught fire. And may Reynolds had to jump out the third floor window, catch a close line on her way down and severely gave herself rope burns. And that was reported as well. So I just thought that was a fun little piece of, of information. I'm gonna say that that shows why they wanted to purchase instead of rent. So for whatever that's worth in any event, that's the background history that we got. I think it's, it clearly shows that this use was preexisting, the, the ordinance, the zoning standard that prohibited multifamily use in that area. I do have Mr. Chris Armada Armada on the line who can, who will testify as to his ownership when he purchased the property. I believe in 2004. And if we can just call him to be testify, to call him to testify, we Kinneally go through his, his testimony. Speaker 3 00:48:39 Mr. Arm, did you raise your testimony? The Mr. Arm, Speaker 12 00:48:52 You may have to hit star six on your phone. If your audio is through a phone, Speaker 3 00:48:57 There you go. Speaker 16 00:48:58 There we go. I swear. Speaker 3 00:49:01 Thank you. And please, Speaker 16 00:49:05 The, the, the property's at four 16 Plainfield avenue in Piscataway. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:49:09 Could you identify yourself please? Speaker 16 00:49:11 Christopher arm. Speaker 3 00:49:12 Thank you. Speaker 12 00:49:14 So, Mr. Armato you, you have owned the property since is a 2004. Speaker 16 00:49:20 I thought it was 2003, but if you're saying 2004, Speaker 12 00:49:23 No, I think, I think you're right. Don't go by me. Speaker 16 00:49:26 Yeah. Speaker 12 00:49:26 Better memory than I do. So 2003. So when you purchased the property, was it your understanding that it was a, a two that it was a, a, a property suitable for two units or had two units in it? Correct. Speaker 16 00:49:39 I, I purchased it as a mother daughter. Yeah. It's exactly as a two unit property. Speaker 12 00:49:43 Okay. And, and as a two unit property, it has two separate bathroom facilities. It has separate kitchen facilities and it has all the amenities that separate units would have. Is that correct? Speaker 16 00:49:53 Correct. And they're exactly as they were. Speaker 12 00:49:55 Okay. And those were existing when you purchased the property and you haven't made any changes to the home, you haven't added any, any of those amenities or, or made any structural changes to the home since you purchased it? Speaker 16 00:50:07 I have not made any structural changes. I've made some updates as far as, you know, updated the kitchen downstairs and things of that nature, but no structural changes at all. Speaker 12 00:50:16 Okay. And we actually did a, an open request to look back for any sort of building permits in the town to, to, to see if there was anything that showed evidence of change or updates in terms of the structure or adding that second unit to the home. And, and that Oprah request came back with, with nothing, no permits. That would suggest that. Is that correct? Mr. Armada? Speaker 16 00:50:39 Correct. Speaker 12 00:50:40 Okay. And in terms of the sewer bills at the property, you actually get taxed two separate sewer bills, is that correct? Speaker 16 00:50:50 Correct. Since I owned it. Speaker 12 00:50:51 Okay. And there's two separate electric meters present at the property, is that correct? Speaker 16 00:50:57 Yes. And they were there when I purchased them. Speaker 12 00:51:00 Okay. And all that to you would indicate that it was a, that it was a, a mother daughter or a two separate unit multifamily home. Is that correct? Speaker 16 00:51:07 Correct. Speaker 12 00:51:08 Okay. I have no further questions of Mr. Armo. Speaker 2 00:51:13 Any other members of the board have any questions for this witness? Okay. Start proceed. Speaker 12 00:51:22 Those, those were the only witnesses that we have for purposes preexisting non-conforming use. And so I'll leave it to, to you, Mr. Chairman. That's Speaker 2 00:51:33 Fine. I'm gonna open it to the public. Now, any members of the public have any questions or comments about this application? Speaker 17 00:51:39 Yes, my name Isman. I live in four 20 Plainfield avenue, actually this property Speaker 2 00:51:47 One, sir. Hold on. And Speaker 3 00:51:49 Sir, can you spell your name Speaker 17 00:51:50 Please? Yeah, my name is live Plainfield. I just right. This a, Speaker 3 00:52:09 The testimony you're about to give should be the Speaker 17 00:52:11 Truth. Yes, Speaker 2 00:52:13 Please. Go ahead, sir. Go ahead, sir, Speaker 17 00:52:19 Sir. Yeah, like now I haven't seen like, you know, I have talked to Chris once I've been living in this property, like four to zero plane avenue, but about seven years, I'm the, I'm the one of this property. And I just came, I, I received this mail and it was quite surprising to know that like, no, this house doesn't have multitenant permit or license or whatever you call in the Township. So the concern I have is I, I, I see this house has been rented out, not the owners, living, not owners of like their relatives living in this property. And I have lot of concerns about these like tenants. This has become like a 24 7. It has become like a business hub, 24, 7 lot of traffic in, and, you know, in and out 24 hours and this property around the, you know, the surrounding the pro around the property is not maintained properly as well. Speaker 17 00:53:25 And then I don't have, you know, I don't, I'm not talking about any individuals or like this owner per se, but I'm talking about, you know, the way this property is used as my neighbor, right. Neighbor in my neighborhood. So I don't think this is, you know, like there is no snow cleaning and then I have to insist on it. And you know, that the lawn around this property is not taken. You knows not, you know, properly taken care. Then I have to insist on it to the tenants. I have to warrant go in and ask them, I don't want to call this owner. I got like, you know, luckily like, you know, a couple of years ago I got the contact number of Chris. Then I spoke to him once and I told him, and then he just asked me to call him if there is any concerns, but I don't want to talk about all the concerns, like, you know, directly with him. Speaker 17 00:54:19 But, you know, since this has come to this public, and then I, I have been notified about this property, then I, I get a chance to talk about it. So I, I just, you know, I wonder how this has been only particular house has been given like a multitenant, like our multi multifamily permit, like, you know, and then why they are seeking it. Like, even without that, that kind of particular permit our partnership from the Township, why this house has been rented out to multiple tenants at the, like, as I'm talking to you right now. So I, I just want some explanations. And then also, as you can see this property, hasn't been fenced, not properly as well. It doesn't have a fence. And even I'm scared to send my kids to the, to, to my driveway because there's a constant traffic. People smoke. People just, you know, make lot of things. Speaker 17 00:55:17 Now, I don't wanna say, you know, put it on the record here, but I, you know, I can't even send my kids to pick, you know, a mail male from my mailbox. And then as you can see this, this Plainfield avenue has become like a highway. People are driving in 45 or like 60 miles per hour speed before this pandemic cop used to just, you know, regulate the traffic. There is no cop in the Plainfield avenue. And then both the sides from like an entry point from river road or entry point from cent 11, you, they, you know, those entry points have become like in a business business. Chaill as well, lot of traffic, we are not able to get in. Even once, like the people who now who get in here, they are in a rush. They want to drive. They want just get to their business in, you know, and then they drive 40 or 60, 40 to 60 miles per, so this, these are all thes. I have, Speaker 2 00:56:10 Well, unfortunately this board can't address the concerns that you have aside from the fact that the client is asking to be recognized as a two family property, to be grandfathered, and to have the document documentation, to show that I would suggest you call the Township code enforcement. If you're having issues with snow removal or the grass is getting too high, you can also contact the mayor's office or the town council about putting speed bumps on Plainfield there. I mean, that's something that they would do a study and, and see if that's something that could be done. Those are concerns that you need to take up with the Township. Unfortunately, we, as a zoning border here, just to address the issue, if this property was considered a two family property, since back in the forties and they have the proof to show it. So I, I Cahn I appreciate your concerns. Speaker 2 00:57:02 I'm a homeowner. I live on river road and I see the cars going really fast as well. I'm concerned about my family safety, but I take up these issues with the Mayor, the town council. And like I said, if you have somebody who's got a, a property that is in dire straits, you call code enforcement. They'll go out they'll issue with summons. And you know what? After one or two summits is, it's gonna be cheaper for them to cut the grass than it is for them to get a couple hundred dollars worth of summons. So you have other avenues and venues in which you can resolve the issues you've got. But unfortunately, as a, as a board, we can't address them tonight. Speaker 17 00:57:37 So I have one question and a follow up question with you guys, like when approve, you approve this property, this, or like, no, do you recommend some changes to the property Speaker 3 00:57:48 They are here before they are here seeking a decision of the board? Whether or not they are allowed to be a two family house. That's the only issue before the board. Speaker 17 00:57:57 So two, when you say two family house, they can rent it out to two families or multiple more than two families, or it should be restricted to only two families. Speaker 3 00:58:06 No, if they, if they get permission to be a two family house, they can rent it out to two families. Speaker 17 00:58:12 Okay. So for you as a board, how do you make sure, okay. Only two families are living there. Speaker 3 00:58:17 Once again, that's a code enforcement issue enforcement. You think that there are too many people living there. You report that to code enforcement. This is the zoning board. We do not have any enforcement powers. You have to call code enforcement. If you believe that there's something illegal going on there. Speaker 17 00:58:31 Okay. Thank you very much. I Speaker 2 00:58:33 Appreciate. Thank you, sir. Have a good evening. Speaker 12 00:58:34 And just to be clear on the record, I might have said multi-family generically. We are seeking a two family. We're not seeking anything additional than two family. Speaker 2 00:58:42 Okay. Ms. Buckley, any other hands raised? Speaker 18 00:58:45 Yes, I would like, I would like to testify. How you doing? My name is pastor slash. Yes, sir. Speaker 3 00:58:51 Yes. Can we have your name again? I didn't hear it. Speaker 18 00:58:54 Sure. I'm pastor slash star at Hartley. Good evening, everyone. Speaker 3 00:58:58 And your address please? Speaker 18 00:59:02 4, 2, 3 Plainfield avenue. Thisaway Jersey's. Good afternoon. Speaker 3 00:59:06 Thank you. Could you raise your right hand? I need to swear you in, sir. Do you swear that testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 18 00:59:12 Yes, sir. Speaker 3 00:59:13 Thank you. Go Speaker 18 00:59:14 Ahead, sir, sir. Yeah. Yes. How you doing? I just wanna definitely confer with my neighbor. He's a good friend of mine. We, we I've been here six years, myself. I'll get into more specifics, Carthic, Monte, but I will. It does seem like to me, there is more than it was rented out previously. It seems like to me, about two years now, I could be totally wrong. It seems like to me, there is more than two families living at that house right now, or have been just based upon the cars that's in the lot. This is about six or seven cars there as well. It is a problem there at that place. Me personally, I'm outside cutting my grass. Cause I'm a full-time pastor or I'm outside washing my car. He won't say it. I will. There's a strong smell of marijuana coming from that area. Speaker 18 01:00:05 That's just the reality situation. He has young kids. I have young kids. I have to step up my car. There's marijuana coming from there. I have my 12, 11 year old son asking me dad, Hey, what's that funny smell. I have to, you know, explain this to my son as well. My kids do not play out in front, but that's a whole, like you said, a whole nother issue with the speed of the vehicles, but yes, as well, it, this spring particularly more than ever on a Friday night, on a Saturday night, there's loud music coming from that area. It's a quiet neighborhood. We've been here six years. And for the past two years, I can say along with him, yes, there is a lot of activity coming from that house. Now, like you said, it is a zoning issue, not a coding issue. When I'll back my neighbor up a hundred percent. Speaker 18 01:00:51 If we have to go to the coding board, but to me, he is correct. There is something going over there. I personally do not want a multifamily there because it is a quiet residential neighborhood. I can testify that. I love living in my neighborhood. I love living Piscataway and there is something always coming from there. I just be honest with you and I'll back him up a hundred percent. He won't say, I will say it is a marijuana smell coming from over there. I don't know them personally. I don't accuse him everything. Even today. I took my son to practice. So won, sitting out in front of the house, playing music. That's just me. It doesn't bother me personally, but you know, we pay a lot of taxes here and it is something going on over there and has been something going over there. And that's just, you know, my testimony. That's all I can testify about that. That's I don't know the owner personally. I have nothing against him. All I can do is just back my neighbor on what he's saying and what he's saying is true. Speaker 2 01:01:41 Appreciate that. Speaker 18 01:01:43 Yes, yes, yes. Speaker 2 01:01:44 And, and once again, I, I empathize with the situation you're in and, and the venue that you can take up is the mayor's office, a town council meeting, where you can bring this to light and they can address it there. And they have the power to do something about it. We, as a board can only address the application in front of us tonight. We can't do anything about the speeding cars. We can't do anything about the pot. It's just not in our jurisdiction. All we can do is vote on what the applicant came before us tonight and what they're asking relief for. So while I do sympathize with your position, take it, take it up, take it to the mayor's office. And by all means it'll be addressed. I can guarantee you that. Speaker 16 01:02:23 Yeah. So thank you so much. The one thing I'd like to interject, cause I hear, you know, and, and listen as an owner and it's a rental property. You know, those are neighbors that I own a property. So I wanna be cognizant of what they're saying. And I have registered the home through the Township with the people that are supposed to be living there. So I'll make a very cognizant, you know, based on hearing this from neighbors that live next to the house, I will go and inspect and make sure that the people that are supposed to be living there are living there. As of right now, I wouldn't say as a multi-family I have four people on the lease downstairs and I have one person on the lease upstairs. So as far as I understand, there are five people living in the home. So if they're telling me that there are more people I will, I will have to go and take a look at this, because again, this is, Speaker 12 01:03:27 And Mr. Armada, just to say, you know, as, as you had indicated, you have no issues with obviously abiding by the ordinances and the, and the, the Township code and, and the law. And if anything is, if any of the tenants are, are violating, that it should be brought to the, the Township attention code enforcement attention, or, or police attention. Speaker 16 01:03:50 Absolutely. And I'll do the best to, you know, make it comfortable for the neighbors as well. Speaker 2 01:03:55 Thank you, sir. Appreciate it, Ms. Buckley, any the comments? No Chairman. Okay. I'm gonna close the public portion. I'm gonna make a motion to approve the, I have a question. Sure. Sorry. That's okay. Of everything I've heard. There seems to be two sets of families living here for a long time. I understand also that there are now two PSE and G accounts associated with it. Do we know when that got established? How long ago? Speaker 12 01:04:32 I, I don't have documentation to show when it was originally established. I can, we can only testify that we know that it's been there. As long as Mr. Armato has been, has, has owned the home. I haven't found, I haven't been able to find any documentation to indicate that specifically those, the, the separate utilities. Speaker 2 01:04:53 You understand my question? It's it goes back to two, Speaker 16 01:04:57 Three. I could though two PS, PS, and G electric accounts on the property. I don't know about before that, but, and I didn't change anything. So I'm sure it, they were established before that as well. Speaker 2 01:05:13 Thank you, Steve. Any other members of the board? Any questions before I offer mine, I'm gonna make a motion to approve the application based on the testimony and the comments made Speaker 3 01:05:25 With the, with the conditions that Speaker 2 01:05:27 With the conditions, correct? Sorry about that. Can I get a second? Speaker 3 01:05:33 A second. Speaker 2 01:05:35 Thank you. Speaker 1 01:05:38 Okay, Mr. Weisman. I'm sorry. Who seconded it? Thank you. You're welcome. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. MRIO. Speaker 3 01:05:52 Yes. Speaker 1 01:05:52 Mr. Dacey. Speaker 3 01:05:54 Yes. Speaker 1 01:05:54 Mr. Hey DACA. Yes. And Chairman Cahill. Speaker 3 01:05:58 Yes. Mr. Arch will memorialize this at our next meeting. Thank you very much. Have a good night, everybody. Speaker 2 01:06:04 Goodnight, sir. Speaker 1 01:06:05 Right? Take Speaker 3 01:06:06 Care. Thank Speaker 2 01:06:06 You. Let's move on to item. Number 14. Adoption of resolutions from the regular meeting of September 8th, 2022. Speaker 3 01:06:13 First resolution is Jim moer is, is 2, 2 56, which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman. Yes. Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Chairman, which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman. Mr. Tillery Patel, Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. Regio. Yes. Mr. Haka. Yes. Chairman Cahill. Yes. Third application was John Fritz, which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Chairman Cahill. Yes. Next application was Rames. Which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. MRIO. Yes. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Chairman Cahill. Yes. Next Byron Patel. Which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Mr. Blount? Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Chairman Cahill. Yes. Next is Richard Jones and Cynthia Magno Jones, which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Chairman Blount. Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Chairman Cahill. Speaker 2 01:07:50 Yes. Speaker 3 01:07:51 Next is Meco and mini, which you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Mr. Blount. Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Chairman Cahill. Yes. The last resolution for tonight is an amended approval for DFI foreign construction. After we adopted this resolution last month, the applicant requested some changes to it. I agreed to insert those changes. Basically. There were a couple of variances that were covered, but not listed. So I have now listed them. So I have an amended resolution that includes those Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. O'Reggio. Yes. Mr. Dacey. Speaker 2 01:08:35 Yes. Speaker 3 01:08:35 Mr. Dacey. Yes. Mr. Weisman, those are all the resolutions I have this evening. Speaker 2 01:08:43 Thank you. Mr. Dacey item number 15, adoption of minutes from the regular meeting of September 8th, 2022. All in favor, all item number 16, adjourn. Make a motion to adjourn in favor. Say again, everyone. Thank you for your service. Hope everybody has a Rutgers.