Transcript for Piscataway Planning meeting on August 10 2022

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Speaker 0     00:00:00    Here. This is your mute and mute the video. So we're so just that, that video come on. Yeah, I tapped it still didn't come up. Could come up on the screen. Oh, okay. This could just, there we go. Thank you. Kinneally yep. Now it is my head. We got it. Thank you.  
Speaker 1     00:00:38    Hello, Reverend Kinneally. There you are.  
Speaker 0     00:00:40    Yep. Thank you. How are you, Mr. Wild. Good, good to see, sir.  
Speaker 1     00:00:46    Hello, miss Smith.  
Speaker 2     00:00:48    All right. Put your volume on Brenda.  
Speaker 3     00:00:54    All right, there I go.  
Speaker 2     00:00:57    All right. Gimme one second to record. Okay. Madam chair, whenever you're ready.  
Speaker 3     00:01:16    Township Township board planning board meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of the following meeting was, was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available to the Township clerk notice sent to the courier news and the star ledger. Can you please call the role  
Speaker 2     00:01:46    Mayor Wahler  
Speaker 4     00:01:50    Present  
Speaker 2     00:01:52    Councilwoman Cahill here. Ms. Corcoran here, Ms. Reverend Kinneally  
Speaker 0     00:02:03    Here.  
Speaker 2     00:02:03    Mr. Atkins  
Speaker 3     00:02:06    Here.  
Speaker 2     00:02:06    Mr. Foster. Nope. And Madam chair  
Speaker 3     00:02:12    Here. We will now recite the star. The pledge of allegiance. My fag is a little stick game off, but here it is. Can we all recite? I pledge allegiance to United States of and to the Republic, the invisible Liberty Mr. Dacey Barlow, would you please read the open public meeting notice?  
Speaker 1     00:02:47    Certainly Madam chair, this meeting is being held virtually in keeping with the department of community of fair guidelines on virtual meetings that were promulgated as a result of the COVID pandemic appropriate notices were sent out, including the zoom information and it's appropriate for the meeting to go forward in this fashion. Madam chair,  
Speaker 3     00:03:06    Thank someone member of the board, please. I'd like to have the bills paid, make a motion to have the bills paid.  
Speaker 0     00:03:20    Reverend Kinneally. I make a motion. That bills be paid.  
Speaker 3     00:03:23    Go have a second.  
Speaker 2     00:03:25    Second. Councilwoman Cahill.  
Speaker 3     00:03:27    Thank you. Roll  
Speaker 2     00:03:29    Mayor. Wahler yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders.  
Speaker 5     00:03:37    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:03:38    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:03:40    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:03:40    Mr. Atkins. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:03:44    Yes. Do we have professionals that are so to be sworn in tonight?  
Speaker 1     00:03:50    Yes. Mr. Reen.  
Speaker 5     00:03:54    Hi, Mr. Reine can you, how are you? Raise your right fine yourself. Can you please raise your right hand? You swear that the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth.  
Speaker 2     00:04:05    Yes, I affirm. Thank you.  
Speaker 5     00:04:07    Thank you,  
Speaker 3     00:04:15    Mr. Barlow, tonight,  
Speaker 1     00:04:18    There are changes to that. I'm aware of Madam chair,  
Speaker 3     00:04:28    Item, item, number eight, adoption of resolution to memorialize action on July 13th, meeting  
Speaker 5     00:04:36    Madam Chairman. I like to application 22 9 90 Hancock road, LLC, for major final subdivision. Madam  
Speaker 0     00:04:47    Chair that  
Speaker 3     00:04:50    Thank you. RO  
Speaker 2     00:04:51    Mayor Wahler Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 5     00:05:01    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:01    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:05:03    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:04    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:05:05    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:06    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:05:07    Yes.  
Speaker 5     00:05:09    Madam chairwoman. I like to moralize application 21, PV 34 slash 35 D one 40 circle drive north LLC. Preliminary and final site plan.  
Speaker 4     00:05:23    Adam  
Speaker 0     00:05:23    Chair. Second  
Speaker 2     00:05:26    Mayor Wahler yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Corcoran wonders.  
Speaker 5     00:05:33    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:34    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:05:36    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:36    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:05:38    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:39    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:05:41    Yes.  
Speaker 5     00:05:42    Madam chairwoman. I like to more application 22 PV dash 13, 14 V, M, and M Realty partners at Piscataway, LLC for preliminary and final site. Plan.  
Speaker 3     00:05:55    Second. Do I have a second?  
Speaker 0     00:05:58    Madam chair, Reverend Kinneally I'll second it,  
Speaker 3     00:06:02    Thank you. Welcome  
Speaker 2     00:06:03    Mayor. Wahler yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 5     00:06:10    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:06:11    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:06:13    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:06:13    Mr. Atkins. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:06:17    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:06:18    Just one thing. Laura, Madam chair had recused herself from that.  
Speaker 3     00:06:22    I recused myself. I'm  
Speaker 2     00:06:24    My apologies,  
Speaker 1     00:06:28    Mr. Espinosa. Would've been the, but he is not here today.  
Speaker 3     00:06:33    Item number nine. Do we have adoption of the minutes from the previous meeting?  
Speaker 5     00:06:38    Ma'am chairwoman. I like to adopt the minutes from the regular meeting of July 13th, 2022.  
Speaker 0     00:06:46    I'll second. I have motion  
Speaker 2     00:06:50    Mayor Wahler yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Wonders.  
Speaker 5     00:06:57    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:06:58    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:07:00    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:07:00    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:07:05    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:07:06    Thank you. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:07:08    Yeah. Item, number 10. Discussion ordinance to amend and supplement the revised general ordinances of the Township of the getaway chapter 21, section eight, a flood damage prevention adopt new flood management resolutions. Are we prepared for that discussion?  
Speaker 1     00:07:31    Madam chair, if I may, this is just rules that are being promulgated by the D that Ms. Powell, these across the state need to adopt,  
Speaker 3     00:07:44    Do we have to make a motion?  
Speaker 1     00:07:46    Yeah. So this has been referred over to the planning board by the Township council to review the proposed amendment. And if, as the Mayor indicated, you know, this has been directed from the higher ups appropriate would be to have a, if the planning board's in favor of that, a resolution sending it back to the council for them to act upon it.  
Speaker 3     00:08:14    So our motion should be what  
Speaker 1     00:08:18    The motion would be to recommend adoption of the amendments to the ordinance.  
Speaker 3     00:08:24    Okay. Can I have a motion to that order? The members of the board,  
Speaker 2     00:08:28    Madam chair, Dawn Corcoran. I'll make that motion.  
Speaker 3     00:08:31    Is there a second?  
Speaker 0     00:08:32    Madam chair, Reverend Kinneally I'll second it  
Speaker 3     00:08:36    Okay. Roll. Cool  
Speaker 2     00:08:37    Mayor. Wahler  
Speaker 1     00:08:39    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:08:40    Councilwoman CAO. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:08:47    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:08:48    Mr. Atkins. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:08:52    Yes. Discussion to authorize for site planning, LLC, to prepare an area and need of redevelopment study for 10 Normandy drive also known as block 3 7, 2 block 1.02  
Speaker 1     00:09:12    Again, Madam chair. This is the planning board to discuss whether or not to retain a planner, to undertake a preliminary investigation, to determine if 10 norm drive is an area need of redevelopment.  
Speaker 3     00:09:28    May I have a motion to that effect please?  
Speaker 2     00:09:30    Madam chair, Dawn Corcoran. I'll  
Speaker 3     00:09:32    Make that motion. Do I have a second?  
Speaker 5     00:09:36    Harold Saunders off seconded  
Speaker 3     00:09:39    Roll call please.  
Speaker 2     00:09:41    Mayor Wahler. Yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kinneally. Yes. Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:09:52    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:09:53    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:09:55    Yes. Item number 1222, PB 18 V as in Victor Benner, H P L L C for bulk bank variance.  
Speaker 1     00:10:08    Madam chair. I believe Mr. Smith is here for that application. And just before he enters his appearance and, and tells us what's going on. I just wanted to refresh the board's memory. This was previously before the board on June 8th of this year, testimony was taken. And you may recall this had the issue with the detached garage and after the matter was to be approved, but it turns out that the garage has triggered a, an additional variance that the applicant's going to speak to for that garage for maximum building coverage. So over by 2.5, 5%. So every member of the board that's present here today with, with the exception of Mr. Espinosa heard that testimony. So that would continue Mr. Atkins, as the alternate who was present for the June 8th and heard the testimony can vote in Mr. Espinoza's place. Just from a housekeeping standpoint, I will now turn it over to Mr Smith.  
Speaker 1     00:11:19    Thank you very much, Mr. Barlow, Bob Smith. I'm a licensed attorney in the state of New Jersey, and I'm standing in for Tim arch, who was the original attorney on this. And you may remember when, when this application for four 16 Victoria was before you, the, the board did not have a problem with going forward with it. And as a matter of fact, you approved it, but there was a kind of like a, an after surprise. Nobody noticed that as a result of the garage requirement, there would now be a need for coverage variance, such that the maximum building coverage that is permitted in Piscataway in the, in this residential zone is 20%. And because of the garage requirement, which was imposed by the board, the coverage is now 22.5% as Mr. Barlow mentioned. So the, the cleanest, obviously the board wants this to happen with the garage.  
Speaker 1     00:12:19    So the cleanest way we thought to go forward with it is to end up with a combined resolution for last month's approval and to include the additional variance for the coverage, which is a result of the board's requirement for the garage. I have Mr. Sharif Ali, our engineer available, but the if, and only if the board wants any additional testimony, but it seems to be a pretty clear cut matter, and probably the simplest solution. So let me know if you want Mr. Ali to testify. Other than that, that really is the case. Madam chair, if I may, it Ms. Corcoran and the staff doesn't have a problem with it, I, I won't have a problem with it.  
Speaker 6     00:13:04    The staff has no issue. I do. I just wanna make one comment. You you'll notice in the staff report that Henry let me back up. So the, the ordinance is silent as to whether or not this 12 foot by 20 foot requirement is into wall or exterior wall. So if we take it from the exterior wall, that's where we came up with a 22.55%. If the board is comfortable with the garage being 12 by 20, that is the percent, the building coverage variance that will be required. If the board feels that we need to take this out, another foot 13 by 21, the coverage increases only to 22.9. But again, I'm comfortable with the 12 by 20, per 12 by 20 foot dimension. But I leave that up to the board,  
Speaker 3     00:13:52    Have a motion from the board as to whether as to whether it's okay or as to whether we need the additional variance.  
Speaker 6     00:14:03    You need a variance regardless. It's just the, the building coverage. If we, if the garage is 12 by 20 they're at 22.55, the garage is increased at 13 by 21 feet. You're at 22.9. Again, the ordinance is silent on it, so,  
Speaker 3     00:14:20    Okay. What's the board's pleasure. Should we, which way should we go  
Speaker 7     00:14:23    Madam chair? I mean, I don't know if you wanna take a poll, but it seems to me to be, do minimus. So I actually have no issue with this either.  
Speaker 3     00:14:34    So I, I don't, I, for one, does anyone have any issue with it? Let's just take it that way. The 13 hearing, hearing no response from any of the board members present. Ms. Cahill, do you feel secure enough to go ahead and make a motion?  
Speaker 7     00:14:48    Yeah, absolutely.  
Speaker 2     00:14:50    Sorry. Councilwoman, you do have to up public Madam  
Speaker 3     00:14:54    You're right. You're okay. Apologize. Would you check and see if the Ms. Buckley, if anyone in the, in the public would like to comment?  
Speaker 2     00:15:07    I don't see anyone. Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:15:11    Thank you. Close to the public, then go ahead, Ms. Cahill.  
Speaker 7     00:15:14    Okay. So then Madam chair, I would like to make an offer that we accept this application with the proposed size of the garage, triggering the variance and that we, that we grant that variance.  
Speaker 3     00:15:30    Is there a second?  
Speaker 2     00:15:31    Madam  
Speaker 3     00:15:32    Chair, Dawn Corcoran. I'll second. Thank you. Welcome  
Speaker 2     00:15:36    Mayor. Wahler. Yes. Councilwoman Cahill.  
Speaker 7     00:15:39    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:15:40    Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders.  
Speaker 5     00:15:43    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:15:44    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:15:46    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:15:46    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:15:48    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:15:48    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:15:50    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:15:51    Madam chair. Thank you very much. Let me just, so the record is clear. The variance is for the 12 by 20 garage, correct. And the 22% coverage variance, just for the purpose of the record and not to confuse anybody who reads a hundred years from now. And thank you very much because of, because this matter was in front of the board in June. And again, because of this technical issue had to come back. The applicant, since the resolution was primarily done, the applicant asked that the resolution could be adopted tonight. So I had made that change in anticipation based on the board's prior feelings in this matter. So I think Ms. Saunders should have that resolution. If, if you're on, if you Madam chair, if you wanna entertain a motion to adopt the resolution.  
Speaker 3     00:16:43    No, I would. Mr. Barlow, if you're prepared, Ms. Saunders, you can go ahead with the resolution  
Speaker 5     00:16:51    Madam chair. I like to make a motion to approve the resolution for application 22 PB 18 V for Ben, H P L L C.  
Speaker 3     00:17:04    Do I have a second?  
Speaker 0     00:17:06    Madam chair, Reverend Kinneally I'll second there.  
Speaker 3     00:17:09    Thank you. Roll call, please.  
Speaker 2     00:17:11    Mayor Wahler. Yes. Councilwoman Cahill.  
Speaker 7     00:17:15    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:17:16    Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 5     00:17:19    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:17:20    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 0     00:17:21    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:17:22    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 3     00:17:23    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:17:24    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:17:26    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:17:27    Thank you. Madam chair and members.  
Speaker 3     00:17:29    You're welcome. Mr. Smith item 1322, PV eight I P T Kingsbridge business center. Urban renewal, LLC. Ms. Jennings. Yes, I'm here.  
Speaker 8     00:17:48    Okay. This good evening. Thank you. Good evening for the record. I'm Donna Jennings from the law firm of Len Goldman and Spitzer as the board is aware, the applicant is here this evening, seeking preliminary and final major site planned approval to demolish an existing building and construct an approximately 100,673 square foot warehouse building and related site improvements on property located at 40 Kings bridge road and identified as lot 6.02 in block 6, 7 0 2 on the Township tax map, the property situated in the 40 Kings bridge road, redevelopment area, subject to the similarly named redevelopment plan, which was recently adopted by the governing body in 2021, as the record will show the products fully conforming with the controlling redevelopment plan, meaning no variances or design waivers are requested or required in support of the application. The applicant rely on the direct testimony of the following witnesses are the licensed civil engineer, Christian Roche, and the licensed architect.  
Speaker 8     00:18:50    Scott Daniels. In addition, the applicant's traffic engineer is also on the zoom call, Alan Lithian and he'll be called to testify. If there are any questions or comments raised by the board it's professionals or members of the public that the other two witnesses are unable or qualified to address. And just as a matter of record, keeping the evidence and receipt of several reports. We have a memo from the fire prevention dated March 2nd, 2022 fire commissioner's memo dated June 6th, 2022 traffic engineers report dated June 15th, 2022 director of public works memo dated June 17th, 2022. The board engineerings report dated July 8th, 2022, landscaped architects report last revised August 4th, 2022, and the board planners report last revised August 4th, 2022. Those memos have been reviewed with the applicants and its professionals and the professionals will discuss them. I believe there are no issues with them. So I would like to call up Chris first to begin his testimony once he's sworn in. Okay, you might proceed.  
Speaker 5     00:19:57    Chris, can you please raise your right hand?  
Speaker 1     00:20:04    What's up below you on my screen. Sorry about that hand is raised. Oh,  
Speaker 5     00:20:10    Okay. Do you swear that the testimony about to give with the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 1     00:20:15    I do.  
Speaker 5     00:20:16    Can you please state and spell your name for the record?  
Speaker 1     00:20:19    Sure. It's Christian Roach, R O C H E with Langin L engineering, L a N G a N.  
Speaker 5     00:20:26    Thank you.  
Speaker 8     00:20:30    And if you could Chris get the board the benefit of your background and qualifications?  
Speaker 1     00:20:34    Sure. I've been practicing land development engineering now for approximately 17 years. I'm professionally licensed in the state of New Jersey, as well as several other states. I have bachelor's degrees in civil engineering and business from Lehigh university, as well as a master's degree in civil engineering from North Carolina state. And lastly, I've appeared before numerous boards across the state of New Jersey previously. I think I was in front of this board two or three times before the pandemic  
Speaker 8     00:20:58    Would the board accepted qualifications he's accepted. Thank you. Thank you. And just Chris, for the record, could you confirm that you prepared the site plans were prepared under your direction?  
Speaker 1     00:21:08    Confirmed.  
Speaker 8     00:21:09    Okay. And if you could describe the site in the area around the site.  
Speaker 1     00:21:13    Sure. I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen. Yes. Ms. Jennings, any exhibits will start mark as a one and then, you know, just continue that.  
Speaker 8     00:21:24    Absolutely. Chris, just make sure identify the exhibits that you talk about them, please.  
Speaker 1     00:21:29    Sure. So starting with exhibit a one exhibit a one is just a site vicinity aerial dated August 10th, 2022. As Ms. Jennings mentioned the project site we're here to talk about tonight is located at 40 Kingsborough road. It's identified as block 6 7 0 2 lot 6.02 on the Township tax map. It's approximately 6.64 acres. And it's generally ground by Kingsbridge road and route 2 87 to north office uses to the south and office and light induced uses to the east and west quickly moving to exhibit a two, which is entitled existing site conditions also dated August 10th, 2022. This is just a more zoomed in aithal view of the existing conditions on site. Site's presently occupied by an existing office building with a footprint of approximately 80,000 square feet, along with associated parking, both the parking and the building do have existing solar panels present on them. Although that existing access to the site is presently provided at two locations, there is an Eastern access drive as well as a Western access drive. And the entirety of the property is located within the 40 Kingsbury's road redevelopment area with the underlying zoning being I five light industrial.  
Speaker 1     00:22:47    So moving through exhibit a three also dated August, 2022 in total of 40 Kingsbridge road site plan rendering. What the applicant is looking to construct on the property is a speculative warehouse building with a footprint of approximately 100,673 square feet of that. Approximately 5,000 square feet would be utilized for office space and a remaining 95,673 square feet would be utilized for warehouse use as mentioned by Ms. Jennings, the application and the site design is fully compliant with the redevelopment plan. We're not seeking any type of bulk variances or design waivers here this evening from a parking perspective, the redevelopment plan requires one parking stall for 1500 square feet of warehouse use from one parking stall for 200 square feet of office doing the math on the aforementioned square footages. I mentioned the application is required to have 89 parking stalls on the property and we're proposing 89 parking stalls.  
Speaker 1     00:23:40    So the parking stall requirements are met. Each parking stall will be nine feet wide by 18 feet deep with 25 foot wide drive aisles, which meets the redevelopment plan requirements. We'll be providing 47 parking stalls on the Northern side of the building, as well as an additional 42 parking stalls on the Eastern side of the building included with those 89 parking stalls are five ADA parking stalls, as well as for electric vehicle charging stations stall. So we're meeting the requirements for electric vehicle charging stations, as well as ADA requirements. We are proposing a loading area in the Southern portion of the site, which will contain 32 loading docks. That area is proposed to be enclosed with a six foot high vinyl coded chain link fence. And that's mainly for security and safety purposes, access to the site closely mirrors, the existing site access configuration with an access point, both in the Western portion site, as well as the Eastern portion of the site, we anticipate that all trucks would enter via the Western entrance of the site.  
Speaker 1     00:24:40    And then trucks would have the ability to leave via either access point. Regular autos will have the ability to utilize both access points as well. We are proposing a minor offsite improvement with this application, which I'll show a figure and talk about more later on during the presentation to the existing intersection of Kingsbridge road and Centennial have, and that's the Western intersection, those roads and protect the two points. And again, I'll talk about that more momentarily relative to onsite trash operations that will ultimately be decided by a, yet to be selected tenant. The warehouse is built on a speculative basis without a specific tenant in mind. However, some tenants prefer to handle their trash operations internally to the building, and some prefer to do it externally where showing proposed trash or recycling operations within the Southeastern portion of the loading area, if that tenant chooses to do these via an exterior method, the site's been designed from a stormwater management perspective to comply with the state and Township requirements relative to water, quantity, water quality, and groundwater recharge.  
Speaker 1     00:25:41    We're proposing to do this through the construction of two buyer retention, basins one in a Northern central portion of the site. And one in Southeastern portion of the site, along with three porous paving areas within the proposed parking stalls, the site's exempt from the groundwater recharge requirements due to poor infiltrating soils on the site. Presently lastly, with the storm water I'll note that each basin is proposed to be surrounded by a five foot high wood split rail fence. Moving on to the site, utilities sanitary sewer service for the site will be provided via the Southern building face will be connecting to an existing Township owned sewer main to the south of the property. Water service will be provided in the Northeast corner of the site. It'll be provided by New Jersey American water electric will be provided via PSE and G through some existing infrastructure in the Southwestern portion of the site to a transformer pad located Southwest city building and eventually providing the building service.  
Speaker 1     00:26:38    And lastly gas and telecommunication services will also be provided off of Kingsbridge road. We are proposing 203 new trees as far of the application, as well as 236. New shrubs. Those new trees include 40 shade trees, 129, evergreen trees and 34 ornamental trees. The landscaping's mainly focused around the site perimeter with the high concentration in the Northern portion of the site to provide screening from Kingsbridge road. And we did get some comments from the Township professionals. I think it was in the planner's letter as well as for Mr. Hinterstein. We have no objection complying with the landscape comments we received date. We're also proposing all new site lighting. There'll be all new L led fixtures, which include 14 new light poles, as well as nine building mounted fixtures. These fixtures will be 4,000 Kel and lighting temperature, and it will be mounted at a height of 25 feet, which complies with the redevelopment plan requirements, which allows for a maximum height of 30 feet.  
Speaker 1     00:27:34    So we're below and compliant with that requirement. We have two monument signs proposed one at each entryway. These monument signs also are fully compliant with the redevelopment plan specifically that we set back 10 feet from the property line. They'll be well below the maximum allowable signage area for the redevelopment plan. That's around a hundred square feet and our signs around 50 square feet. Lastly, relative to the signage height redevelopment plan allows for signs to be six feet tall, and we'll be 5.5 feet tall. So moving to my last exhibit, this is exhibit a four, the entitled conceptual offsite improvement plan with the date of February 25th, 2022 that's because this was submitted with the initial site plan application package. We are proposing improvement. As I mentioned to the Western intersection of Kingsbridge road and Centennial avenue, the improvement includes a upgrade to the existing curb radio at the Northeastern portion of the intersection.  
Speaker 1     00:28:30    Right now, the curb radio has radius approximately 25 feet north to facilitate truck turning movements for trucks, making rights within the roadway onto Kings bridge proposing to increase that radius to 80 feet. Although we have an easement in place previously, it was discussed with the Township in around October, 2021. The easement was a obtained from the present landowner at 2 0 1 Centennial avenue allow for these proposed improvements to be constructed. So Ms. Jenn, I'll wrap up and certainly happy to answer any questions by just stating we did review the aforementioned letters you went through from a Township professionals, and we have no objection to complying with the comments within those letters.  
Speaker 8     00:29:10    Thanks, Chris. That's really all the, the direct testimony we have from, from Chris at this time. I mean, again, as a fully informing application, consistent with the redevelopment plan that was created specifically for the site, it's consistent with the redevelopment agreement. So we, we could move on to our next witness if, unless there's specific  
Speaker 3     00:29:33    Questions. Let me just see if the board has any questions, board members. Do you have any questions of this witness that's presented so far? I see no response of the exhibit is still up, so I can't see everybody's hands, Mr.  
Speaker 1     00:29:50    Roach, if you could unshare thank you. That  
Speaker 3     00:29:53    No problem. Okay. Thank you.  
Speaker 7     00:29:55    Madam chair. I may, this is Councilwoman kale. I'm not so sure of Ms. If Mr. RO is the right Peres, are we going to get testimony about the, the actual building itself and, and the structure?  
Speaker 8     00:30:10    Yeah, we have an architect. That's gonna come next.  
Speaker 7     00:30:12    Okay. Very good. Thank you.  
Speaker 3     00:30:14    Okay, then let me go to the public. Miss Buckley. Do you see anyone who has any questions of this witness?  
Speaker 7     00:30:20    No one Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:30:23    Okay. Thank you. Then. Close to the public, Ms. Jennings. You may call your next witness.  
Speaker 8     00:30:27    Sure. Scott Daniels. There he is. His  
Speaker 1     00:30:36    Hands up. I see right here.  
Speaker 3     00:30:39    There he is.  
Speaker 9     00:30:40    I'm sorry, this I'm just, this is the court port. I would just like to remind the witnesses. This is not a race. I appreciate your thoroughness, Mr. Roche, but I am taking this down. So if we could just go out a pace that is reasonable. I would appreciate it. Thank you respectfully. Thank  
Speaker 3     00:30:58    Can he be sworn in please?  
Speaker 1     00:31:03    Your muted,  
Speaker 3     00:31:04    Mr. Your mic is off Saunders. Thank you. Please  
Speaker 5     00:31:08    Raise your right hand. Is I swear that the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing, but  
Speaker 1     00:31:14    I do.  
Speaker 5     00:31:15    Can you please state and spell your name for the record?  
Speaker 1     00:31:18    Scott D a I of architecture for where?  
Speaker 5     00:31:27    Thank you.  
Speaker 3     00:31:28    Thank you, Jenning. You may go ahead and question your witness.  
Speaker 8     00:31:32    Thank you, Mr. Daniel, if you could, just for the benefit of the board, give your background and qualifications, please.  
Speaker 1     00:31:38    I, yes, I've been a practicing architect for 35 years. I am the director of architecture for where Malcolm I've bachelor's of architecture from New Jersey Institute technology and an MBA from the university of Arizona. I am a licensed architect in, in New Jersey.  
Speaker 8     00:31:59    And your license is active and current?  
Speaker 1     00:32:02    Yes it is.  
Speaker 8     00:32:03    Would the board of please accept his qualifications?  
Speaker 3     00:32:05    Yeah. Has he testified before this board? Previous times or any other?  
Speaker 1     00:32:10    Not Piscataway, no, but many others in New Jersey.  
Speaker 3     00:32:14    Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. He's accepted.  
Speaker 8     00:32:16    Thank you. So if you could, I think you're gonna have some exhibits that you wanna bring up and if you we're gonna be on exhibit a five would be the next one.  
Speaker 1     00:32:25    Yes.  
Speaker 8     00:32:26    You rely on them. Just identify them for the record, please.  
Speaker 1     00:32:30    Okay. This is exhibit a five. It is the conceptual floor plan and concurrent with Mr. Roach's testimony. The building is a total of a hundred and a hundred thousand 673 square feet. The warehouse space is 95,673 square feet. The floor plan delineates two separate office locations. This floor plan can be either a single tenant could be a multi-tenant. We show it as a possible multi-tenant. Each of the office spaces that's shown is an additional 2,500 square feet totaling, a hundred thousand 673. There is a pump room and an electrical room in the Southwest corner for the utilities to enter the building. As Mr. Roach discussed on the south side of the building, we have 32 dock doors and the entrances are both on the, on the north hand side of the building. You discuss the construction of the building will most likely be typical concrete footings slab on grade, the walls will be pre-cast concrete panels, fully insulated. The interior structure will be steel columns. The roof will be constructed of steel GERS open web joist it'll have a metal deck for the roof will be fully insulated, and it'll probably be a single ply membrane roof. The structure will be designed so as to be solar ready, which means that it'll be able to take the weight of solar panels on the roof.  
Speaker 8     00:34:43    Okay. And if you just wanna move right into your elevations,  
Speaker 1     00:34:47    The elevations here depict the,  
Speaker 8     00:34:52    And just, I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mr.  
Speaker 1     00:34:54    This is, yeah, this is exhibit a six. Excuse me.  
Speaker 8     00:34:58    Thank you. And that's the elevation rendering?  
Speaker 1     00:35:03    So the elevation show, the north elevation east elevation west elevation and the south elevation. The north elevation shows the front of the building. It shows the two entrances delineated on the corners and it shows how the elevation is breaks up the monolithic rectangular by use of vertical lines and different colors and glass within the entry points. The same is true for the east exterior elevation and the west exterior elevations, which are the shorter in length elevations. Those also utilize vertical elements to break up the elevation itself. The south elevation, which is the rear elevation is where the dock, the docks are. The truck docks. As you can see the 32 truck docks and the two entry ramps into the building. We also have clear story windows for use of natural light. So as to make our building much more energy efficient, the building's height is a maximum of, of 43 feet, 10 inches. There'll be two small street number identifiers on the Northwest and Northeast corners of the building. One aspect of the building is the use of a stone veneer, which gives you a greater design showing more of a business commercial business building than industrial building. And that's part of the architecture of the building.  
Speaker 1     00:37:02    I'd like to go to a rendering right now that we did, this is a conceptual rendering.  
Speaker 8     00:37:08    Okay. So we should mark that a seven.  
Speaker 1     00:37:10    This is a seven.  
Speaker 8     00:37:12    Okay. And that was a conceptual rendering.  
Speaker 1     00:37:16    That was a conceptual rendering of the entry. And to describe it with the use of color and the use of reveal lines, both horizontal and vertical, you could see how we broke up the, the single plane of the elevation. Also the use of clear story windows and glass at the entrance, which gives you the impression of more of a business type of building than an industrial building with the veneer at the bottom, as a base and a higher parapet at the top of the corner, which adds to the architecture of the building and falls nicely in with the surrounding environment and landscape.  
Speaker 8     00:38:13    Mr. Daniel, I think that's the conclusion of your testimony.  
Speaker 1     00:38:16    Yes, it is.  
Speaker 8     00:38:17    Thank you.  
Speaker 1     00:38:18    You're welcome.  
Speaker 3     00:38:21    Okay. Members of the board, you've heard the testimony. Does anyone have any questions of this witness,  
Speaker 1     00:38:28    Please? Unshare your screen, Mr. Daniels? Yes. Thank you're welcome. Madam  
Speaker 8     00:38:34    Madam chair.  
Speaker 7     00:38:34    It's Councilwoman Cahill. Thank you. So I heard your testimony about the roof is going to be solar panel ready? Maybe you don't know the answer, but do you know the intent of when maybe solar panels might be installed on that building? Is that going to be something in the, the owner's purview to do soon? Or we don't know that  
Speaker 8     00:39:05    We don't know that there's no tenant right now, so that's not something that's on the table right now, but is ready and in the future they would do it.  
Speaker 7     00:39:13    Okay. So each, each of the tenants would be responsible then for putting solar panels on,  
Speaker 8     00:39:19    In the future? Yeah.  
Speaker 7     00:39:21    Okay.  
Speaker 8     00:39:22    If they wanted, I mean, it's just ready for them, but it's not something that's being discussed right now.  
Speaker 7     00:39:27    So the, the owner of the building is not going to put them on. It would be up to each tenant to do that if they wanted to.  
Speaker 8     00:39:35    Right.  
Speaker 7     00:39:37    Thank you.  
Speaker 3     00:39:40    Any other questions from any of the other board members? Okay. Ms. Buckley, would you check and see if there's this, the, this, this witness is open to the public for questioning. Would you see if there's any members of the public who are interested in questions of this witness?  
Speaker 8     00:40:01    No  
Speaker 7     00:40:01    One Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     00:40:03    Thank you. Close to the public, Ms. Jenny, do you have any other witnesses?  
Speaker 8     00:40:08    No, that's all of our witnesses that we were gonna cause direct witnesses. Cause again, this is a fully conforming application, not requiring any variances or design waivers. We have reviewed all of the memos or reports issued by your consultants and we have no issues with any of their suggestions. And so we would respectfully request since for compliant with your redevelopment plan, that the board grant the approval. Thank you,  
Speaker 3     00:40:33    Members of the board, you have heard the testimony and the, of this, of the witnesses to this application. What is your pleasure?  
Speaker 1     00:40:42    Madam chair, five may I have for Mr. Barlow also the, as a condition of approval and the memorialization we need to put in that the applicant will have to install a node communication node inside the building because the town is moving over to the 700 megahertz radio system. So in buildings like this, as well as the next application, we're gonna be requiring that in all future applications that a repeater system is put inside these heavily concrete buildings with a lot of metal. So when the first responders go in, they'll still be able to communicate with the base station and the other first responders out there during an emergency, we're willing to have them sit down with the applicant. It it's being required by a lot of towns now in the state to do that with the 700 megahertz system, which is being required by the federal government Mayor.  
Speaker 1     00:41:46    We have no issue with that. That's not a problem. Yeah. Thank you very much. And then Mr. Barlow, I suggest that we'll have them sit down with our public safety people, individual staff with the applicant. It shouldn't be a heavy, these repeaters are supposedly from what I understand are very small repeaters. So Mayor just, just by way of edification for myself, is that what it would be called a communication note or is it called it's basically a communication repeater system. Okay. Communication. Some people call it by a node for short, so, but we'll moving forward. Ms. Corcoran will be having something before the board, as, as a site plan approval checklist item in the future for structures like this. So would, would would your, I guess condition Mayor be that the applicant will put in a commuter repeater system in consultation with the fire marshal and the other Township professional? Yeah, the police department. Okay. Police. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And the applicants indicated they would agree to that? Absolutely not a problem.  
Speaker 3     00:43:04    Are there any other questions? What, then we've heard all the testimony. We've opened it to the public and there's no comment. Do we have, what's your pleasure board members? Would you someone wanna make a motion? Proving this application?  
Speaker 7     00:43:18    I have a Cahn.  
Speaker 3     00:43:20    Sorry. Who was that? That a member of the public?  
Speaker 7     00:43:23    Yes.  
Speaker 3     00:43:24    Okay. One moment please. Could you tell us what your name is and, and miss Saunders we'll swear you in or?  
Speaker 7     00:43:33    Yes. My name is Teresa Jones and I live at 1 21 bond street in Bridgewater, New Jersey.  
Speaker 3     00:43:43    What's your question?  
Speaker 7     00:43:44    My question is  
Speaker 5     00:43:48    Your right hand. Do you swear that the testimony about to give you the truth? Nothing but the truth.  
Speaker 7     00:43:53    Yes. I swear. My question is how is the traffic from this warehouse gonna affect the tractor trailers that are already on Centennial avenue that are coming from south Washington avenue? What the warehouses on south Washington avenue, you're gonna be adding more tractor trailers onto Centennial avenue going towards 2 87 south, which is now unbelievable because of the construction. How is that gonna affect it? How many tractor trailers do you approximate that are gonna come through there? Daily?  
Speaker 1     00:44:28    Madam chair, if I may ask that that is a ridiculous question. This this site is next to 2 87. Centennial avenue is designed to go where that's, where you want the traffic to go on 2 87. I mean, no offense. Mr. Dacey. I mean, you live in Bridgewater. You consistently come on here and you complain.  
Speaker 7     00:44:51    My son lives at 3 0 1  
Speaker 1     00:44:53    Avenue. I don't care. You do not live here in a town.  
Speaker 7     00:44:56    My mother was on the planning board for  
Speaker 1     00:44:58    I'm well aware that your mother, I served with her. So, but the bottom line is you're wrong on this one. This is proper planning. This is, and by the way, everything on Centennial avenue is a permitted use for warehouses.  
Speaker 7     00:45:10    I know we had the  
Speaker 1     00:45:11    Plumber arguing about just, you know, that's on there for 30 years.  
Speaker 7     00:45:16    I wanna argue with you,  
Speaker 1     00:45:17    Come on. If I may Ms. Jones. Yes, this is a completely conforming and permitted use. And it's part of the redevelopment plan. The applicant's not required to provide testimony related to traffic because the feeling is it's a conforming and permitted use. So it was taken into account that it would generate traffic in keeping with the size and parking as outlined in the redevelopment agreement. So it would actually be impermissible for the board to consider testimony about that because it is permitted and Ms. Jennings, if you want to add anything, but Mr. Barlow, I also wanna add in there. This is actually believe it or not a less intense use than what was permitted out there when Deutsche bank owned the site. And as an aside note, during nine 11, right after nine 11, they had 1500 employees on that site for over a year during nine 11. So, I mean, this is a way less intensive use than what was out there in the past. And I think that was the thought process behind the redevelopment plan that was adopted. Yes. But Ms. Jennings, if you would like, if you have anything you want to add,  
Speaker 7     00:46:34    I just wanna say, I'm sorry to the Mayor, but we have to live with that plumbing company. And let me tell you the light industrial that's over there and the noise is unbelievable. You have to start thinking of the residents, not just of the tax.  
Speaker 1     00:46:48    That's that? Thank you very much with this application.  
Speaker 7     00:46:51    I know, but I just had to make it said and I'm sorry. Thank you. I won't try not to bother you anymore.  
Speaker 1     00:46:59    Are there any other questions from the public?  
Speaker 9     00:47:02    Can I just have the spelling of her name please? This is the reporter.  
Speaker 7     00:47:07    It's  
Speaker 9     00:47:09    She didn't spell it though. She said it, but I need the spelling.  
Speaker 1     00:47:11    No, no, I know she just muted herself. I'm sorry. Could you spell your last name? Ms. Jones.  
Speaker 7     00:47:18    It's Ru Nicky, R U D N I C K I Jones.  
Speaker 9     00:47:24    Thank you.  
Speaker 3     00:47:31    Are there any more comments from the public if not closed to the public? No, I'm okay. I'll entertain a motion. What's your pleasure.  
Speaker 1     00:47:43    Madam  
Speaker 7     00:47:48    Chair. I'll make the motion that we accept the application. Gimme one moment. Is that 22? PB eight?  
Speaker 2     00:48:01    Yes.  
Speaker 3     00:48:02    Yes.  
Speaker 7     00:48:06    With the stipulation that the right, that the communication or Mr. Barlow, if you wanna just say exactly what that note is for the emergency services,  
Speaker 1     00:48:17    The communication repeater system and the applicant will work with the Township professional first responders.  
Speaker 7     00:48:27    Thank you.  
Speaker 3     00:48:28    Do I hear a second?  
Speaker 0     00:48:30    Saunders second.  
Speaker 3     00:48:33    Oh, cool please. Ms. Buckley.  
Speaker 2     00:48:37    Mayor  
Speaker 1     00:48:38    Wahler  
Speaker 2     00:48:39    Yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms.  
Speaker 0     00:48:44    Saunders?  
Speaker 2     00:48:45    Yes. Reverend  
Speaker 0     00:48:47    Kinneally.  
Speaker 2     00:48:48    Yes. Mr.  
Speaker 1     00:48:49    Atkins.  
Speaker 2     00:48:50    Yes. And  
Speaker 1     00:48:51    Madam  
Speaker 3     00:48:52    Chair.  
Speaker 1     00:48:53    Yes. Thank you  
Speaker 3     00:48:54    Very much, everyone.  
Speaker 1     00:48:55    Have a great night. Have a good night. Take care.  
Speaker 3     00:49:00    The next application will be chair. Mr. Reverend Kinneally will come. And this just,  
Speaker 1     00:49:07    Just one second. Put all this  
Speaker 0     00:49:21    S not up on the screen and it it's jumping all over place to microphone. Hopefully it's working well.  
Speaker 2     00:49:28    Yeah, Dawn, the camera was shaken before I was  
Speaker 1     00:49:30    Loud and clear. Reverend Kinneally. Okay.  
Speaker 0     00:49:34    Yeah. It's still try to reset it again. We'll  
Speaker 1     00:49:41    Records are just reflect chairwoman Smith has refused herself from this application.  
Speaker 0     00:49:48    Okay. Let's get this up. It's still on time. Oh, sure. Okay.  
Speaker 1     00:49:56    Mr. Riza there. Hello Chris.  
Speaker 0     00:50:01    It's problem. When you first  
Speaker 1     00:50:05    Bear with us one second. We're just trying to get him on camera. Sure.  
Speaker 0     00:50:18    Get that checked in the future. Yeah. There's something wrong with the camera. It's it's Joe's camera doesn't. No, it didn't. I did it three times and I couldn't get it up. You know what if we need to let, let, let em jump and let 'em use mine do that. And then I'll just sit here. What computers doing? Well, guys, we'll be there in one moment, as long as they can hear me. That's okay in why don't you'll.  
Speaker 1     00:52:05    Thank you. Okay, Mr. Barlow, I think we're ready now. Okay.  
Speaker 0     00:52:22    Just that we swap out. Okay. I can change it over. Yeah.  
Speaker 1     00:52:28    Okay. So Reverend county, this is 22 PB 15 Rockefeller group development corporation. And I believe Mr. Riza is here on behalf of the applicant. Do you hear me, Mr. Barlow? Yes, sir. Okay. That's that's why I was getting ready to start Rockefeller group development corporation. 22 PB 15, Mr. Drek. Yes. Mr. Mayor call your first witness, please. Great, thank you. Just for some background on Christopher Drek from the law firm of FY drinker, bile and re here on behalf of Rockefeller group development corporation. The application before you this evening is for preliminary and final site plan related to 147,000 square foot warehouse building the property is approximately 17.2 acres and is located at constitution avenue. It falls with the, in the L I five and the redevelopment zone, which was recently enacted both under the initial zoning, the underlying zoning and under the redevelopment zone.  
Speaker 1     00:53:41    The proposed use is a permitted use. Just to give you a little background, the site is currently occupied by multi-story office building, and that building is approximately 109,000 square feet on June 10th, 2021. The council of Piscataway designated the area or the property as an area in need of redevelopment. Later that year on December 14th, 2021, a redevelopment plan was adopted. The applicant has prepared a fully compliant site plan. It is consistent with the underlying zoning ordinance and with the redevelopment plan, there are no variances being requested. And unless there's any questions, Mr. Mayor, I will introduce our first witness. Keith Aon, Mr. Anderson. Hello. Would you, would you, that's your first witness, would you swear, Ms?  
Speaker 5     00:54:47    Yes. Can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony about to give,  
Speaker 2     00:54:51    They should be able to look up and read it? Oh, I switched that soon as I got back. I got you.  
Speaker 5     00:54:57    You swear. Sorry, Ms. Abras. Do you swear that the testimony about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 10    00:55:03    Yes.  
Speaker 5     00:55:05    Can you please state and spell your name for the record?  
Speaker 10    00:55:07    Sure. It's Heath Abramson. That's H E a T H. Last name Abramson, a B R a M S O H N.  
Speaker 5     00:55:19    Thank you.  
Speaker 1     00:55:20    And, and heat. Your title is vice president.  
Speaker 10    00:55:23    That's correct.  
Speaker 1     00:55:24    Okay, great. Thank you. Can you tell us a little bit about, oh, did, was he sworn in? Yes, he was.  
Speaker 5     00:55:31    Yes. I, him in.  
Speaker 1     00:55:32    Okay. I just wanna make sure I, I heard him state his name and I wasn't sure if he said, I swear for him to tell the truth. Can you tell us a little bit about the Rockefeller group in this project?  
Speaker 10    00:55:44    Sure. So the Rockefeller group is a national development company headquartered in New York city with history, going back to the Rockefeller family more locally, we are headquartered in I'm sorry. We have an office in Morristown, New Jersey history within New Jersey goes back about 40 years doing primarily commercial development of industrial and office product more locally. Hyper-local recently over the last few years, we redeveloped the union carbide Dow chemical site off a river road into a 2.1 million square foot redevelopment brownfield redevelopment site. And as Chris said, I mean, happy to be here, looking forward to hopefully working together again. But we are ultimately looking to redevelop this site into a speculative industrial building  
Speaker 1     00:56:39    That all you have Mr.  
Speaker 10    00:56:41    Stelton that's it, unless there's any other questions.  
Speaker 1     00:56:44    Okay. Is there any questions from the board? Nope. Any, any questions from the public? No, thanks Jeff. None. Okay. You haven't any other witnesses? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to call up our project engineer, Richard Barrow from Langan engineering and environmental services. Okay. Wanna swear?  
Speaker 5     00:57:17    Yes. Mr. Burrow, can you please raise your right hand?  
Speaker 11    00:57:21    Good evening.  
Speaker 5     00:57:22    Hi. Do you swear that the testimony about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 11    00:57:27    I do  
Speaker 5     00:57:28    Please state and spell your name for the record.  
Speaker 11    00:57:31    Richard burrow, B U R R O w.  
Speaker 5     00:57:34    Thank you,  
Speaker 1     00:57:38    Richard, can you please give us some of your background and qualifications?  
Speaker 11    00:57:42    Certainly I'm a civil engineer with Lang and engineering and environmental services based in precipitating New Jersey. I've been working as a civil engineer for 30 years, 23 years here in the United States. And I have a bachelor's degree of, of civil in civil engineering from the university of Glasgow in Scotland. I'm a licensed professional engineer in New Jersey and several other states I've testified before this board, probably five years ago with the Rockfell group on the project that he mentioned. And I've testified in front of several other boards in the state on similar projects.  
Speaker 1     00:58:21    We like he as qualified. Thank you. Thank you, Richard. Can you describe the existing site and the proposed project?  
Speaker 11    00:58:35    Certainly. And let me share my screen.  
Speaker 1     00:58:39    Okay, Mr. Burrow, if you are around for the other applications, we'll start with the first one is a one and then just keep going as you or anybody else in your team puts up any exhibits. So this would be a one this aerial exhibit,  
Speaker 11    00:58:53    Correct. So, so exhibit a one is an aithal exhibit showing the 10 constitution avenue site. It is a 17.2 acres located off a 10 constitution avenue. You can see that constitution is immediately south of interstate 2 87, access from either exit six or exit seven, and brings you to Centennial avenue then teaches to corporate south and you make a left onto 10 constitutions. The 17 acre site is currently occupied by an office building that has approximately 430 car parking spaces on it today. And the office building you can see much of the site is wooded and much of the site. And particularly the Western side will remain wooded after the redevelopment project has been completed. And you can see the neighboring properties are largely industrial. However, there is the south Randolphville elementary school immediately to the south. So the backside of the school faces our Southern boundary. We have an industrial or warehouse building to the east warehouse building to the north and warehouse building to the west.  
Speaker 11    01:00:11    So I'll move on the next exhibit, which helps should help me describe. So exhibit a two is a color rendering of the proposed site plan and is marked exhibit a two or exhibit two. So this shows the proposed 147,000 square foot warehouse building as was mentioned already. This use is in compliance with redevelopment plan and it is in compliance with all of the bulk standards in the redevelopment plan with respect to law coverage, building coverage, setbacks, et cetera. And let me go on to describe the site circulation. So you come in off of 10 constitution into the existing driveway, and those of you that are familiar with the site, this is the long driveway with the nice alley of trees on both sides, and that's gonna be maintained. And this 30 foot wide driveway will be the only access to the site. Cars and trucks will share the driveway and then cars will go either straight on into the car parking lot or make a right and into the car parking lot from the Southern parking lot access, there's 121 car parking spaces on site. So quite a reduction from the existing office building tractor chillers will circulate in a counterclockwise manner. So make a right turn, come along. The Southern boundary, travel north through the truck court, drop off the trailer, perhaps pick one up and then leave via the Northern end of the truck court circulating west and leaving the site again, continuing a counterclockwise manner.  
Speaker 11    01:02:03    There's a couple of fences proposed on the plan. I'd just like to refer to them and also correct the defense details. So we have a ornamental fence proposed around the truck court. Our application incorrectly shows spikes on top of the fence. We do not plan to propose to build any spikes on top of the fence. Sorry about that. So the fence will go around the truck court and the fence that we will build as incomp compliance through redevelopment plan. We're also going to install five foot high post and real fence with black mesh around the six stormwater basins, again in compliance with the redevelopment plan. Another fence that I want to detail is we have a sound fence along the Southern boundary. The, and I'll go, I'll go on to give you a specific image of the same fence so that we're clear on what it is and toward the end of my testimony.  
Speaker 11    01:03:04    So the same fence is instead of the board on board fence that we showed on the site plan application, the solid sign fence is what is required by the redevelopment plan is it is eight feet tall as required by the redevelopment plan. And although the building is oriented, you know, with the, the front facing largely west or Southwest and really truck courts facing Northeast and the sound fence will help mitigate the sound from the building with respect to the elementary school, to the south. And we also are about 10 feet, lower eight to 10 feet lower on this site than, than the elementary school. So that, that fence again is in compliance development plan. I'll go on to describe the Stonewater management. So we have really two different Stonewater management techniques on site. And the simplest one is the pervious pavement. We have a pervious pavement sidewalk connecting the site from constitution avenue to the building.  
Speaker 11    01:04:13    And then we have five small scale buyer retention, basins, and one large scale buyer retention basin. The site is exempt from recharge because it is redevelopment in planning area. One that we comply with the current state and town water, quantity and water quality requirements. And we have done some pretty extensive onsite sales testing, which identified shallow groundwater on the site. And because of that, we modified the basin design so that the basins have under drains, four of the basins are also lined because of their proximity to the grounding water. So that is in, that is discussed in a Mr Carley's report. And we're happy to work through the comments in Mr Carley's report, but we believe we will be able to comply with them all. Each one of these basins has spillways. Again, details of that will be provided the car parking spaces are nine by 1825, few aisles in compliance with the ordinance.  
Speaker 11    01:05:18    And the site has a pretty extensive landscaping plan. We have a 373 new trees being planted. There is quite a number of trees being removed, and there will be a deficit on of trees with respect to the tenants treat removal ordinance. There are comments in the review letters that encourage some additional fees that be planted. We are going to comply with that. We're also gonna comply with the requirements in the review letters about planting some larger trees, and we will calculate the correct deficit once we've added the trees that weren't able to in working with the professionals with this bank. Oh,  
Speaker 1     01:06:02    I'm sorry, Richard. I was just while you're on trees, I just wanna clarify for purposes of record, the lock contains a lot of areas that aren't colored in that showed Woodlands. Those are not being disturbed and will remain correct.  
Speaker 11    01:06:15    Absolutely correct. Yeah. Most of the, these areas to the, the west of the building. So Southwest and Northwest are wetlands and they will not be impacted by the project. The trees, significant number of trees will, will remain.  
Speaker 1     01:06:31    Thank you all you have Mr. Mr.  
Speaker 11    01:06:36    And couple other points if you don't mind, but I will wrap up. Yeah, no, that's okay. There is a request that we move the sound fence further south that actually, I believe could cause more trees to be removed. So, and we've certainly work with Mr. Hinterstein to, to examine that, but I think it may be in the optimum location at the moment. So we don't have to remove more trees. The site lighting is in compliance with the ordinance maximum lighting height for freestanding lights is 25 feet there. L E D lights with house side shields, just with respect to the letters that we've received. First of all, I'd like to point out that we have a New Jersey DEP wetlands permit in hand, that permit was received recently on the 27th of July, and many of the, the letters referred to the status of that. So it was great news. We've got that permit in hand and with respect to the other comments, you know, we are happy to work through the details with the professionals and believe we can come to suitable resolution. So that would conclude my direct testimony. If they have any comments or questions, I'd be happy to do my best answer  
Speaker 1     01:07:51    Barlow Mr. Burrow, or Mr. I just want be clear. So with regards to Mr. Carley's report of July 27th, 2022, and Mr. Stein's report, I believe of July 27th, 2022, you can comply with, with any and all of their recommendations and will work with the Township professional staff to resolve any issues, correct.  
Speaker 11    01:08:15    That's correct. The only one exception which I covered in my direct testimony is there's a request for soil testing and to show the, the depth to groundwater relative to the basins and the technique that we've designed on this site, it responds to the actual data we've already Cahn Cahn collected so that we will not have the separation. We will have the basin designed appropriately for the proximity of the green water.  
Speaker 1     01:08:41    Okay. Well, you'll work with Mr. Carly with regards to that issue, correct?  
Speaker 11    01:08:45    Absolutely.  
Speaker 1     01:08:46    And, and Richard, just to clarify you, you address the fence along the back, the one on the Southern property line that will have sound attenuation qualities.  
Speaker 11    01:08:57    Yeah. So actually I meant to show that one, sorry, let me just ex I, I forgot to, so lemme show exhibit a three, which shows the sound fence. So we had originally show a board on board fence on the application. However, the redevelopment plan requires a sound fence and you may ask what's the difference? So the sound fence is solid. It's got multiple layers like or sandwich together. So there is no, you know, air gaps for sound to penetra. And it also has a certain mass, which absorbs the fan, absorbs the noises. So this is what the sound fence will look like. We refer to this as exhibit a three, Mr. Barlow, I believe. Yes,  
Speaker 1     01:09:40    Sir. Richard, it's not, I don't think you shared your screen. Can you? Oh,  
Speaker 11    01:09:43    I'm sorry.  
Speaker 1     01:09:44    Yep.  
Speaker 11    01:09:48    Thank you, Topher.  
Speaker 1     01:09:50    No worries.  
Speaker 11    01:09:51    Okay. So here is the send and hopefully it looks like I just described it and this is, this looks kind of bare, you know, our, our application proposes landscaping that would be in front of the fence, but this is what it will look like.  
Speaker 1     01:10:15    Oh, thank you. Okay. Missed the degrees. I, I did fail to mention also the CME report of Mr. Reten of July 26th, 2022.  
Speaker 11    01:10:26    There's two clients. And that one we should probably address, or I can address one of them that the architect can address the other on in the application. We show three EV stalls. There should be four EV stalls, and we will add the fourth EV stall in the resolution compliance. Should we be approved this evening?  
Speaker 1     01:10:46    Okay.  
Speaker 11    01:10:47    Is again, no objection and no problem complaint.  
Speaker 1     01:10:50    Okay. That's okay. Is there any, any questions from the board members have any questions for Richard?  
Speaker 12    01:11:03    I come up and make sure that sidewalks come from  
Speaker 7     01:11:10    Mr. Chairman. We cannot hear Mr. Mayor.  
Speaker 1     01:11:14    He would, he would've to come and share his screen.  
Speaker 6     01:11:21    I think he's saying something about the sidewalks  
Speaker 1     01:11:24    He's saying about the sidewalk  
Speaker 6     01:11:25    And it's my understanding and correct me if I'm wrong, that there is in fact sidewalk along that property frontage.  
Speaker 11    01:11:32    That's correct. This, there was a comment about sidewalk being added along constitution and about the sign for property. Those have been moved, I think as part of the adjacent development projects has  
Speaker 1     01:11:50    Conforming.  
Speaker 11    01:11:51    Correct. So they already confirm as, as suggested in the later  
Speaker 0     01:11:58    Reverend Kinneally. The other question I have is to make sure that the other board on board solid fence is gonna connect up with the adjacent property owner.  
Speaker 11    01:12:09    It will. Yes.  
Speaker 1     01:12:10    Correct. Thank you. And Mr. Mayor, yes. As with the previous application, does this require the repeater? No communication. Yes, it does.  
Speaker 0     01:12:25    Yes, it does. Counselor.  
Speaker 1     01:12:27    Okay. And Mr. Degrees, I don't know if you were present in the previous application. Yes. Would the applicant of any problem doing that for the first responders? So their communication systems will work appropriately. We have no problem. We will work with police and fire to determine what needs to be installed there. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Is there any questions from the public.  
Speaker 7     01:12:54    Yes. Brian rec.  
Speaker 13    01:12:57    Yeah. Hi Brian rec 1247 Brookside road.  
Speaker 1     01:13:00    Would you, I'm sorry. Mr. Dacey. What was the address again?  
Speaker 13    01:13:03    Oh, come on. You don't know me already? 1247 Brookside road.  
Speaker 1     01:13:07    I don't have the addresses memorized though. Saunders, if you please.  
Speaker 5     01:13:17    Yes, Mr. Rack, can you please raise your right hand?  
Speaker 13    01:13:20    Yes,  
Speaker 5     01:13:23    I can't see. So,  
Speaker 13    01:13:24    Oh, I'm sorry. My webcam's broken.  
Speaker 5     01:13:27    Oh, okay. Do you swear that the testimony about to give with the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 13    01:13:32    Yes.  
Speaker 5     01:13:33    Right. Thank you.  
Speaker 13    01:13:34    My only question was on the screening on the south fence, which side is gonna have the landscaping? Are the kids gonna be looking at a solid fence or are they gonna be looking at like trees?  
Speaker 11    01:13:45    They'll be looking at trees.  
Speaker 13    01:13:47    Okay. That was it. Thanks  
Speaker 7     01:13:50    Madam chair. I know it's open to the public, but I, I just wanted to confirm that because I, I do believe that you did say all of the, the, the trees that there are now there, that block the view to the parking lot. None of that's being touched. That's accurate. Mr. Burrow.  
Speaker 11    01:14:18    Sorry, could you restate your question  
Speaker 7     01:14:20    Please? I apologize. So the trees that border, the parking lot that is there now, and the school, none of those trees are that buffer are gonna be touched. I, I see that the building is going into the parking lot area there, but those trees, there are not going to be adjusted or any removed from there.  
Speaker 11    01:14:43    So, so that's not quite accurate. And sorry if I wasn't clear. So the trees along, there'll be a roof of trees along the edge of the property that exists today, or certainly existed when I was there last week. And then there will be some landscaping added. Then there'll be the sound fence. And then some of the trees that do exist closer to the parking lot on site today will be removed as part of the construction because the roadway is lower. Does that make sense? So, so the view, the view will be the, the first row of trees that exist, then the sound fence and supplement it with additional trees in response to the professional's letter, where we can  
Speaker 7     01:15:32    Fit, where you have to replace the trees that you take down.  
Speaker 11    01:15:36    We do.  
Speaker 7     01:15:37    Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.  
Speaker 1     01:15:42    Is there any other questions for Richard? Okay. Mr. Degrassi may call you next witness. Okay. Mr. Chair, before I call up my architect, as part of our initial submission, we provided in October 7th, 2021 traffic letter, it, it showed a significant decrease in site trip generation. During peak hours. We have our traffic engineer here. If you have any questions for our traffic consultant, otherwise I'll move on to our architect. Does anyone have on the board have any questions for the traffic engineer? Does anyone from public? I see. Now you may move on Mr. Dacey. Thank you very much, Kyle, are you there? I don't see you. Yeah,  
Speaker 14    01:16:39    I'm here. Good evening.  
Speaker 1     01:16:41    This is Kyle furier and he is an architect at a B D design services. Kyle, can you go through your, your, would you swear, Ms?  
Speaker 5     01:16:53    Yes. Can you please raise your right hand, Kyle, do you swear that the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 14    01:17:02    Yes.  
Speaker 5     01:17:03    You please state and spell your name for the record.  
Speaker 14    01:17:06    Yeah, Kyle farrier, last F E R R I E R.  
Speaker 4     01:17:11    Thank you,  
Speaker 1     01:17:14    Kyle, can you briefly describe your qualifications and experience?  
Speaker 14    01:17:19    Sure. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a project architect at design build design services. So I have my bachelor's degree in architecture, master's degree in construction management. I'm licensed in New Jersey and a handful of other states and all my licenses are current and a good standing. I have testified for boards throughout New Jersey and Pennsylvania in the, but this will be my first time. So thanks for having me.  
Speaker 1     01:17:44    Thank you. I guess you could pull up your exhibit.  
Speaker 4     01:17:48    Sure.  
Speaker 1     01:17:54    And I believe we're gonna mark this next exhibit as a four, a four, and then continue. Now you may see. Yeah. He's he's he's looking to share it. Okay, great.  
Speaker 14    01:18:13    Now  
Speaker 1     01:18:14    Let's start with just describing what a four is and then you can get in your testimony.  
Speaker 14    01:18:18    Sure. A four is a conceptual floor plan. So just an overall floor plan of the building.  
Speaker 1     01:18:24    Okay. Thank you. Mr. Chair, was Kyle accepted as an expert? I don't know if we've gotten to that. Yes, he was. Okay. Thank you very much, Kyle you,  
Speaker 14    01:18:38    Yeah, sure. Thank you. So yes, this is our proposed warehouse building here's square feet. You'll see. As by my colleague, loadings of building is with two future office areas in each corner on the front side of the building, it is a concrete slab on grade steel structure. So steel columns open web. The structure will be designed to be solar ready. So solar be proposed at this time, but the structure will be able to accommodate future solar.  
Speaker 1     01:19:22    So we're gonna the state obligations to create the solar ready area in the rooftops,  
Speaker 14    01:19:28    Correct? Yes. So I'll move a five and conceptual ions. So building will be constructive tilt up concrete panel construction, and we'll use reveals to define a paint scheme consisting of neutral colors, like a light, medium and dark. As you see at the entrances, we, we have glazing and canopies to define, you know, each, each entrance at each end of the building with clear story along both the front wall and the back wall for some natural light. We're showing signage at each entrance, which is in compliance with the redevelopment plan. So this would be exhibit a six, which is the entrance rendering. So you'll see here just in, in 3d here, the, the, the main entrance to the building, you'll see that the, the paint schemes, the neutral colors, in addition to some bumpouts to help give the entrance. So it's not such a flat flat building. I'll call attention to a recent project by this applicant in Piscataway the Middlesex logistics center. This is similar in design, but with some enhanced features, so some taller glazing the bumpouts to help define the entrance and just greater variation with the reveal patterns, the clear story windows and the paint schemes,  
Speaker 14    01:21:06    And then moving into a seven, which is an aerial rendering kind of paints the whole picture together. So you'll see. This is still that same canopy addition.  
Speaker 1     01:21:33    I, I think that's all we have Mr. Chair from this witness. Okay. One question I have does these tractor trails, they go completely around the complete circumference of the warehouse that that's correct. And then out to drive, they, they can go completely around. That's what it looks like to me.  
Speaker 10    01:21:58    There is full circulation.  
Speaker 1     01:22:00    Okay. Well, that's, that's, that's all I wanted to know. Okay. It's good access. Okay. Is there any questions from the board?  
Speaker 7     01:22:07    Yeah. Mr. Chairman, this is Councilwoman Cahill. I'm gonna ask this applicant the same question I asked the one before, understand the roof is solar ready? Are there any immediate plans by the owner of this building or any of the potential tenants to put solar in, in the immediate future?  
Speaker 10    01:22:37    So similar to how we did constructed our last project within Piscataway, the project is solar ready. We will work with end users based upon their requirements of solar. Ready if they're gonna install solar or not. But at this point in time, we don't plan to construct it with solar panels in place. However, if you were to go to our last project, there are some of the occupants over there that are working through now or had worked it recently, but we do plan to make sure that these buildings are ready for solar. Read us basically solar readiness.  
Speaker 7     01:23:16    May, may I just ask a follow up question because the other applicant didn't actually answer it the same way you did. So you actually plan to work with tenants who are looking to be more sustainable and work with them. It depend,  
Speaker 10    01:23:31    It depends on the situation and I'll give an example. So when we worked on the UA building, we worked hand in hand on that building for what ultimately became a well and lead. I want to say gold building and we work together with them. Some users want to do it themselves. Some may need help, and we're not gonna abandon anybody. So if somebody needs help, we're gonna help them. If they are gonna do it themselves, if you, if you're working some larger occupiers, they will do things internally and will run things themselves. Then you have others who are smaller, maybe not at don't have the necessary resources and they mean some help. So we just make ourselves available where necessary, but we're constantly speaking to solar companies and learning as much as we can so that we are ready. Should the time arrives.  
Speaker 7     01:24:24    Thank you very much.  
Speaker 1     01:24:29    I have one question. Another question. This is Reverend Kinneally assistant chair in regards to the foreign police, the new technical emergency equipment. You were in compliance with that also?  
Speaker 10    01:24:42    Yes.  
Speaker 1     01:24:43    Okay. All right. That's the question I wanna know. And, and is there any sidewalks in this area for connecting with this building inside the perimeter of the building?  
Speaker 10    01:25:00    Richard, would you like to take that please?  
Speaker 1     01:25:02    I, I believe the sidewalks extend forward to constitution, but  
Speaker 11    01:25:09    Can I, I can explain the S not, not really shown in this image and there's a new sidewalk gonna be installed from constitution avenue. It's gonna cross, it's not shown here, see where the blue car is.  
Speaker 1     01:25:23    Okay.  
Speaker 11    01:25:25    It's gonna cross there and go to the, the sidewalk in front of the building.  
Speaker 1     01:25:31    There will be sidewalks stall, and along the perimeter of the building, is that correct?  
Speaker 11    01:25:35    There's a sidewalk along the front of the building, which is shown correctly on this image. So yes, there's not sidewalks doing thess are along the truck court  
Speaker 1     01:25:45    And they will be replaced if there are broken or, or whatever. Is that correct?  
Speaker 11    01:25:49    Sidewalk? Yeah, absolutely. Yep.  
Speaker 1     01:25:51    Okay. Thank you. Is there any questions from public?  
Speaker 6     01:25:56    Oh, Mr. Chairman it's Dawn Corcoran. I, I just had one question for the architect.  
Speaker 1     01:26:01    Hey, pardon?  
Speaker 6     01:26:03    Mr. Chairman. It's Dawn Corcoran. I had one question for the  
Speaker 1     01:26:05    Architect. Yes. Go right ahead. I'm sorry.  
Speaker 6     01:26:07    Thank you. No, no, no worries. Will there be rooftop equipment on this building?  
Speaker 14    01:26:15    Yeah, there's typically some smaller like exhaust fans. There's no, there's no large like air handling units and they're typically very low line and this building, the roof slopes from front to back. So towards the truck court, they would be, they wouldn't be visible from, from ground level or approaching the building cause could be pretty small. This, the roof slopes towards the loading dock area and place closer to the loading dock area as well.  
Speaker 6     01:26:39    And you'll comply with the Township ordinance with regard to the equipment regardless. Okay. Thank you so much. Great. Thank you. Sure.  
Speaker 1     01:26:49    Can you stop sharing your screen, Mr. Fairer?  
Speaker 4     01:26:52    Sure.  
Speaker 1     01:26:57    Your next witness MRA we're. That was actually the last witness as part of our direct testimony this evening. We have a whole team with us. So if you have any specific questions, we can address them. I think we've already gone through and addressed all the issues and concerns raised in the reports. And like I said, we're happy to answer any other questions. Otherwise, as stated at the beginning, this is a consistent plan with both the underlying zoning ordinance and the redevelopment plan. We're not requesting any variances and, and that, and that basically sums up, sums it up. Thank you, Mr. All right. Board members, you heard as the statements from the various different witnesses that came forward, what is your pleasure in regards to this application? Do I, your motion,  
Speaker 6     01:27:59    Mr. Chairman, it's Dawn Corcoran. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the application subject to all of the reports discussed also subject to the installation of the communication repeater system. And I think that's  
Speaker 1     01:28:16    And sidewalks. And so  
Speaker 6     01:28:19    The sidewalks are show on the plan  
Speaker 2     01:28:31    Mayor Wahler  
Speaker 6     01:28:33    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:28:33    Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran.  
Speaker 6     01:28:37    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:28:38    Ms. Saunders.  
Speaker 1     01:28:39    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:28:40    Reverend Kinneally  
Speaker 1     01:28:41    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:28:42    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 6     01:28:43    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:28:44    And that's it.  
Speaker 1     01:28:46    Thank you very much. We appreciate your time. Thank you. Okay, chair, stay there.  
Speaker 3     01:29:06    Okay. The next item on the agenda for tonight is item number 1521, PB 42 slash 43 in Victor, Raven Heights, LLC, and  
Speaker 1     01:29:20    John Wiley appearing of the firm Wiley Lader MCing on behalf of the applicants tonight, we're in for a preliminary subdivision with variances, for a property at 17, at 21 school street, presently, there is a old house. I think it's been identified for 1910. It has a garage which became a garage apartment, and it actually has two family, but nightmare or may not be illegal to family. However, all those issues are relevant tonight. As we intend to convert the existing house back into a single family and to eliminate the, the apartment and convert that building into a one car garage, there's a report of August 3rd, 2022 from the Township report. And it contains a couple things I like to put on the record. The first is that the applicant would to the number two recommendation that the width of the new houses be limited to 45 feet and permitting us to make up for the missing square footage by making the home deeper. We that at the time of final subdivision, we'll concur at the Heights of the residences, came out, exceed 33 feet, and that we will work on trying to improve facade and we'll have our architect contact planning officials to see if we can come up with a, a good facade design.  
Speaker 1     01:31:30    There's also a shed that's apparently on the easement. And we agree that that should be moved. We have two witnesses tonight. We have our site engineer, Mr. Walker, and we have a professional planner. Mr. OCI will provide the testimony regarding the legal requirements or the legal arguments regarding the planning arguments, excuse me, regarding the variances that we're requesting. So at this point, I'd like to have Mr. Walker sworn in Mr. Wiley, just before you do that, just so the record's complete. So we have the August 3rd, 2022 report of Mr. Hinterstein, the August 4th, 2022 report of Mr. Reiners and we have the April 29th, 2022 report of Mr. Gaspar, the director of public works. We also have a report from DNR stated August. Yep. And, and, and your experts will either comment on them or you've agreed to those conditions, correct? That that is correct. Okay. Sorry to interrupt your first witness, sir. First witness, Mr. Walker, if he could be sworn in  
Speaker 5     01:32:51    Walker, could you please raise your right hand?  
Speaker 1     01:32:56    Yep. He's there. I'm right here. Okay.  
Speaker 5     01:32:58    Do you swear the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 1     01:33:02    I do  
Speaker 5     01:33:04    You sick state and spell your name for the record?  
Speaker 1     01:33:06    Yeah. My name is Leslie, L E S L I E. Last name Walker, w a L K E R. And Mr. Walker, what licenses do you possess with the state of New Jersey? I'm a licensed professional engineer in the state of New Jersey in good standing. And how long have you been an engineer? I've been doing land development for 25 years master's degree and bachelor's degree in civil engineering from Rutgers university. I'm currently the president of Meridian engineering group from Edison, New Jersey. I've been in the last time I was in front of this board was I just looked it up in December of 2018. When the Centennial square sports authority was converted to a 24-hour fitness was the last time I was in front of this board. Unlike Tim Dean does an expert in civil engineering.  
Speaker 3     01:34:02    He's acceptable to the board. Thank you.  
Speaker 1     01:34:04    Thank you. I think maybe the easiest way to begin. You have a colored rendering of the subdivision I do. What I was going to do first is bring up the sheet two of the site plan set just to show the existing conditions. Sure. And that's, it's already part of the record, so I don't believe it needs to be shared as an exhibit or marked as an exhibit marked as exhibit that's, correct? Yep. So, okay. So this is the, this is the, the overall existing condition plan sheet, two of our site plan set, Mr. Walker, just, just before you proceed. So this was part of the application. It hasn't been changed or in any way, and it was no modifications. That's correct. Either done it. Your, you did it or at your direction, correct? Yes, that's right. Okay. So we won't mark that. Okay. Okay. So the, the site has, it sits on the Southern side of school street in Piscataway it's number 17 and 21 street addresses school street, and then lots, nine and 10 in block 9,001 to the, the east, south or east, north and west sides are existing single family residential.  
Speaker 1     01:35:34    And then to the north is the believe it's called the villas at fairway. It's a pretty large scale development that, that sits to the south of us, just for ease of viewing on 17 school street. Here's the, the existing home that, that Mr. Wiley was just was mentioning with a driveway. The existing one story dwelling former garage was converted into a, an apartment use at some point will be remedied by converting that back to a garage. And then behind that, there's an existing shed on 21 school street on the right side of our plan is they have an existing, existing home and shed. And that home in shed will be removed to make way for one of the new homes to be constructed.  
Speaker 1     01:36:34    I think everything else. And is that shed being removed? That was the one that was in the easement. Yeah, there there's the one shed in the back here. I, I was gonna get to the wetlands. So there's a, a tiny little corner of that. The concrete slab that's in the front here, that's shown it's it's in the, the required wetlands buffer that shed in the concrete pad are being removed. Okay. Okay. And now I will switch over to the colored site rendering. So this would be exhibit a one. So you can see here's the, here's the existing dwelling converted back garage shed on 17 school street. We're calling it lot a for right now. And then two, two new homes on lots, B and lot C moving westward.  
Speaker 1     01:37:37    Each, each home is they're, they're called four bedrooms with an in-law suite. So technically five bedrooms. The in-law suite is just a separate bedroom with a, with its own private bath, but those are technically five bedroom homes. The back of the site, you can see there's, there's up, up at the top here. I don't have a colored blue, but there's a ditch that runs along the back of the property. That's mapped as a tributary, an unnamed tributary to Ambrose Brook. There is a very small sliver in that the south, the Southwest corner of the site that has a, a mapped, it's hard to, it's hard to know exactly where that falls along this ditch, but the, just the, the, the appendage of a flood mapped flood hazard on that back corner at elevation. And it includes an elevation of 69 is the, the elevation. And you can see that the, the elevations back in that area are consistent with that.  
Speaker 1     01:38:42    Here's the 69. And then you get up to, you know, 70, 71, 72, as you come up towards the development site. In addition to the, the ditch and the, the little bit of a, a flood plane that, that comes right up in this corner, there's a number of a great number of existing mature trees. Those trees will all stay, and you can see this wetland line, a dark L one L two kind of line that goes across the plan. That is a wetlands line that was established by Dave Moskowitz of equal sciences in June. And then we also show the, the 50 foot wetlands buffer. And you'll notice that all of the improvements and are, are outside of the required buffer, including the, the proposed drywalls. So we're not, we're not proposing to do anything in the environmentally sensitive portion of the site.  
Speaker 1     01:39:39    There was a question about, we will add the, the repairing buffer to the ditch. It's, it's also a 50 foot buffer, but you'll see that the ditch here is just inside the wetlands line. So the 50 foot repairing buffer would, would be inside the wetlands line so that the most conservative line, most restrictive line is the wetlands buffer, but we will add that to the plan. So we, we discussed the, the proposed homes. They'll, they'll each have a two car garage and a 20 foot wide driveway or residential site improvement standards require three parking spaces for, for a five bedroom home. And we'll be providing two in the garage and then a 20 foot wide drive, white counts as one and a half spaces. I don't, I don't know how you park half a car, but 20 feet wide, you know, is, is a reasonable width for actually two cars. But as far as RSIs goes, it counts as one and a half. So we'll have three and a half spaces where three spaces are required.  
Speaker 1     01:40:47    Maybe we should review the, the, you know, they're both standards here. Yep. I'm gonna circle, I'm gonna circle back to those. All right. Okay. So, so we talked about that the flood elevation, the map flood elevation, and the study is elevation 69. You'll see the basement floors on the proposed homes are at elevation 72. So three feet above that all utilities are available in school streets. So we can, we can tie right into the existing utilities out there. We're proposing, we're taking down 11 trees and we're proposing to install 14 trees. So we meet that the tree requirement, one slight variation is that, and it was noted in one of the professional's letters that based on that, the width of the, the site, we we're required to have five street trees. Right now we show four trees out there and in five, kind of like behind the sidewalk, hopefully those five will be sufficient.  
Speaker 1     01:41:48    And, you know, in addition to the four that are out there, what we have between the driveways and, and all the utilities, it's tough to find a spot out between the curb and sidewalk to stick another, another tree, but we'll work with professionals to make sure that they're happy with that. But we, we do have show more trees that are required. We're providing new concrete, aprons and, and sidewalks for that. The municipal standard, six inches thick reinforced, and then we'll, we'll update, replace any sidewalk along the front that that is found not to be in conformance for storm water, we're increasing the runoff or the we're increasing the impervious on the site by 4,800 square feet. Approximately just under that. And based on a three inches of rainfall that would generate 1200 cubic feet of, of additional volume so that the dry Wells were sized to, to each hold at least 600 cubic feet. And they're actually, they actually provide just over 700 cubic feet. So a little bit more than, than what you would, you would typically provide, but we wanted to make sure that, that we accommodated and, and, and did not, were good neighbors as, as far as stormwater runoff goes.  
Speaker 1     01:43:08    So for variances. So the, the existing lots, total just under two acres in total. So each, each existing lot is, is just on, is six square feet under a full acre. Each, each proposed lot will be over 29,000 square feet where, where 10,000 square feet is required. So, so far in excess, in size, but as far as the lot width. And, and if I, you can, you can see by the depth of these, you know, why they're, they're super deep. They're, they're 300 and, and 85 feet deep, these lots, but that they're required. Lot width and lot frontage, both are required at a hundred feet. And we are proposing 77 and a half feet. Again, there are, I'm sure our planner will testify. You know, where a hundred feet is required. There are several in the neighborhood that are also 60, 80, less than a hundred feet.  
Speaker 1     01:44:09    But because of the depth of these lots, we far exceed, they're required 10,000 square foot, a lot areas. We're also, we also need, we have, we have some existing condition variances. One is for the side yard of the accessory building on, on, on 21 school street, but that's being removed. So that's, that's eliminated. And then for the sides of the, the shed and the, the, it will be re returned to a garage. The required is eight feet. And we have 4.7 feet, 4.8 feet on those two existing structures where eight feet is required. And then there's, there's a, the use of that, that garage converted to an apartment that's nonconforming, that'll be corrected by this application. There's also a fence. It it's hard to see here, but there's a, there's a drainage, a municipal drainage ditch that runs on the side of the property in an easement. And that the fence right now kinda wraps around the front of the fence and then goes around that head wall. And then, and then back down, and right now a portion of that fence is in the municipal easement on the adjacent property. And we're gonna remove that and replace it back onto our site to, to eliminate that, that encroachment, I don't believe there's any other required variances or existing variances that, that are need to be discussed. And I think that's all we have  
Speaker 6     01:45:51    Chairman Dawn Corcoran, if they may. Oh, Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     01:46:02    I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was muted.  
Speaker 6     01:46:04    No, no worries. I was wondering, I, I just had a question if you don't go ahead. I have some concern as to when the conversion of the apartment to the garage will take place. Would your client have any objection if this application were approved? Would your client have any objection that no permits could be issued for the, either one of the two single family dwellings until that conversion has in fact taken place?  
Speaker 1     01:46:32    There's no objection to.  
Speaker 6     01:46:34    Okay, great. Thank you.  
Speaker 3     01:46:39    Is there any other questions from the board members?  
Speaker 15    01:46:44    Ron Reinertsen, just, just one thing I, I, I read in the Township memo about redesigning the, the houses to go a little deeper. There's some environmental environmental constraints. Can, can you do that and make these houses narrower and, and still stay out of the wetlands?  
Speaker 1     01:47:11    Yeah, sure. So, so yes, we have, we have quite a bit of room and, and let me, let me just bring that plan back up. This is, again, this is exhibit a one. You can see that, that here's, you know, here's the back of the home, and then you have still another, you know, close to 50 feet until you get to the wetlands, buffer, the dry Wells. They can be reconfigured sideways if they need it to be or whatever, but, but we have, you know, if you're, if you're taking, I don't know what the total width of the homes are right now. The lots are 77. I think they're, they're about 57 feet wide. So if you were to take, you know, five or 10 feet off the width and, and added onto the, the back or come up further in the front, you could certainly do that without any, any concern with the, the wetlands buffer, which is the, the most, the closest restraint we have in the back.  
Speaker 15    01:48:02    Okay. Thank you. That, that, that satisfies my comments. Thank you.  
Speaker 1     01:48:08    You're welcome.  
Speaker 3     01:48:10    Any other questions from the board? Okay. I'm gonna open it up to the public now. Ms. Buckley, do you see anyone who would like to ask a question in the public?  
Speaker 16    01:48:21    Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:48:21    There's ed 13 school street. She's  
Speaker 16    01:48:23    Waiting. Yes.  
Speaker 3     01:48:25    Go a, you have to sworn and hold on. I'm  
Speaker 5     01:48:29    Please raise your right hand. Do you swear the testimony about to give, be the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 16    01:48:35    Yes.  
Speaker 5     01:48:36    Thank you.  
Speaker 1     01:48:37    Can you state your name and spell your last name? Ma'am  
Speaker 16    01:48:41    It's Viola, V I O L a Eddie E a D D Y.  
Speaker 1     01:48:48    And where do you live? Ma'am  
Speaker 16    01:48:50    I live at 13 school street, Piscataway away.  
Speaker 1     01:48:53    Oh, the label should have told me. I apologize.  
Speaker 16    01:48:58    I'm in, I'm in lot 8 0 2.  
Speaker 1     01:49:01    Okay. What, what did you want to ask?  
Speaker 3     01:49:04    Ma'am put your question.  
Speaker 16    01:49:06    Yes. I wanted to ask, I know the property across the street is the red home and it has the other little house in the back and another shed, of course. And I was just wondering, saying that he's going to build two, two new homes is the original home remaining.  
Speaker 1     01:49:25    That's correct. Yeah. The, the original home 17 school street will stay 21 school street will, will go away. That one will be demolished.  
Speaker 16    01:49:36    Okay. And then it put in,  
Speaker 3     01:49:38    It's not the, it's not the red home across the street.  
Speaker 16    01:49:44    Oh,  
Speaker 1     01:49:46    I can pull up a street view if that helps.  
Speaker 16    01:49:48    Yes. That thank you.  
Speaker 1     01:49:49    Let me, let me just go back to share a screen  
Speaker 16    01:49:53    And  
Speaker 1     01:49:54    Where are we? And here we go. So, so the, this is the property and this, the little white house, I think it might even be right next door to you. The little white house that  
Speaker 16    01:50:09    Stays. Oh,  
Speaker 1     01:50:11    OK. That one stays. And then the yellow house, the yellow house, the next one down will, will be demolished.  
Speaker 16    01:50:17    Okay. Oh, I'm.  
Speaker 1     01:50:18    And then just since we have this up, this is the white fence that kind of meanders around the, the drainage improvement. And we're gonna, we're gonna rectify that and get it back where it belongs.  
Speaker 16    01:50:28    Oh, they painted it blue now, but  
Speaker 1     01:50:33    That's the building that will remain.  
Speaker 16    01:50:35    Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you.  
Speaker 1     01:50:37    And we'll refer to that a two the street street. That's right.  
Speaker 3     01:50:47    Any other questions?  
Speaker 16    01:50:49    No, ma'am  
Speaker 3     01:50:50    Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else in the public that has any questions of this witness? Okay. Seeing no hands I, this closed, I closed the public portion for this witness.  
Speaker 5     01:51:07    I'm Chairman. This is Carol Saunders. I just had a quick question. I didn't know when these homes were proposed to be constructed, but I see a note on the memo about the road opening moratorium. So April 27th, 2025.  
Speaker 1     01:51:25    Yeah. That's the, that's the current ordinance they're aware of that. So that would, that would govern the Cahn, the construction, correct? Dawn,  
Speaker 16    01:51:35    Correct?  
Speaker 1     01:51:35    Yeah. And, and typi, typically in those kind of situations, if the, the applicant wanted to move forward, they would be required to mill and overlay the entire width of the roadway to, to, to fix the street. If, if there was, you know, that was acceptable. I don't know what their timeframe is on construction, but I know in the past, in, in many surrounding municipalities, that's how it was handled, that they were required to, to mill and overlay the Cahn, the full width of the road along their frontage.  
Speaker 5     01:52:11    Thank you,  
Speaker 3     01:52:13    Madam  
Speaker 0     01:52:15    Chair. This is Mayor Wahler. I noticed on the, on the staff report, they plan to have underground utilities going into the houses. Just the side note. They probably should throw an extra conduit line in there for the future for them, because you don't know what the needs are gonna be in the future, especially when it comes to underground.  
Speaker 1     01:52:43    Are you suggesting an extra conduit going to each of the new, the new dwellings in case, you know, fiber optic or something, you know, was, was a thing?  
Speaker 0     01:52:52    Yeah, absolutely.  
Speaker 1     01:52:54    Okay. That's fine.  
Speaker 0     01:52:55    Well, cuz right now we, you have a lot of underground utilities and a lot of developments in the town and it it's becoming cost prohibitive for them to upgrade, you know, wifi, you know, service, fiber optic service and things like that.  
Speaker 1     01:53:13    We'll  
Speaker 7     01:53:15    Madam, this is Councilwoman pose this question Dawn about that. If they, so if the applicant wanted to come back and actually start construction before the moratorium is the Township going to allow them to take care of it? What, what will we do? Will we have them bond for that? And then only because I'm concerned about, okay, we know the quality of the materials we wanna use on our roads, cetera, cetera. I don't know how that works. I dunno, go ahead.  
Speaker 6     01:53:58    Sorry. I'm sorry. Certainly that's not something that the board, as you know, can grant nor is it something staff and grant that actually has to go all the way up to administration council. And then in fact, yes, they would have to bond. And if the approval was granted, they'd have to put a bond in place and so forth. But it, it, it's not gonna be at the staff's discretion as to whether or not they're gonna grant that.  
Speaker 7     01:54:24    Right. So this applicant would have to come before us. If they wanted to start build, they'd have to come before planning. If they wanted to start building before the moratorium, is that accurate?  
Speaker 1     01:54:35    No, they would go before the Mayor and council.  
Speaker 6     01:54:37    Correct. So what they'll do is if they want to, they act, they're going to have to address all the conditions of those board approval. If granted, then they're gonna be back to the planning board for final major subdivision approval. Then they can seek approval from council and administration. If at that point they wanna start moving ahead with the construction they  
Speaker 7     01:54:58    Have. So the, so the approval today is really still based upon the moratorium on when they can start building. Okay. That's my question.  
Speaker 1     01:55:06    Doesn't doesn't void the moratorium. Not at all. It just, it would grant the subdivision. It would divide the lots up covers when they do construct, but this board, the moratorium is still in place, no matter what the board does.  
Speaker 7     01:55:22    Okay. Thank you.  
Speaker 3     01:55:24    Okay with that, sir. Do you have any other witnesses you wanna call Mr. We,  
Speaker 1     01:55:30    Yes. Yes. I'd like to call Mr. OCL and if he could be sworn in  
Speaker 3     01:55:38    Yes.  
Speaker 5     01:55:38    O can you please raise your right hand? You swear that the testimony about to give, be the truth and nothing but the truth.  
Speaker 17    01:55:46    Yes, I do. Justin O a U C I E L L O.  
Speaker 3     01:55:57    Go ahead.  
Speaker 1     01:55:59    All right. Could you give, what licenses do you possess with a  
Speaker 17    01:56:04    Professional planner, professional planner in the state New Jersey? I've been licensed since 2007. I've a, master's in planning for Rutgers university. I have appeared in front of this board on a few occasions. I've also have appeared at, at hundreds of boards in the state of New Jersey over the course of my, my 17 year career.  
Speaker 1     01:56:26    I'd like to  
Speaker 3     01:56:26    Is acceptable as a, as a planner to this board. Thank you as a professional planner.  
Speaker 17    01:56:31    Thank you, Madam chair,  
Speaker 1     01:56:36    Could you, I guess again, identify the particular variances that we were requesting tonight?  
Speaker 17    01:56:44    Sure, absolutely. If it, if it helps, actually, I I'll start with that. Mr. Wiley. So as, as Mr. Walker had stated, we do require a few variances for proposed lot, a, B and C variances relate to, to lot width and frontage and side yard setback, side yard setback for lot a for the, the garage and, and the shed for lot B and C. It's just lot with, and lot frontage. If it helps to orient the board. I have an exhibit Madam chair, if I may share my screen.  
Speaker 3     01:57:25    Yes, that would be acceptable.  
Speaker 17    01:57:26    Thank you so much. So I'm just gonna pull this up  
Speaker 1     01:57:34    And we would be starting with a three.  
Speaker 17    01:57:38    Okay. Thank you. Just,  
Speaker 3     01:57:42    Okay.  
Speaker 17    01:57:49    So can you see my screen?  
Speaker 3     01:57:52    I see it.  
Speaker 17    01:57:53    Okay, great. So this is, this is a three, this is an image from the state of New Jersey. And I, I did an overlay of showing the site, the site, which is noted as block 9 0 1 lot nine and block 9 0 9 0 1 lot 10, which is noted by the flag in the middle. And then these pins that extend from block 9 0 0 1 lot 7.02 across school street to block 9 0 0 1 lot 8 0 1. And then across the street block 8 4 0 4 lot 9 0 1 block 84, 0 4 lot 12 and block 8, 4, 4, lot 13. These are all lots that are in the surrounding area of, of the subject property. These lots are deficient with respect to lot width and lot frontage. And the reason why I'm presenting this exhibit is to show that what's proposed this evening is not, is not, you know, inconsistent with the character of, of the surroundings. And I will stop sharing my screen.  
Speaker 17    01:59:15    Two, two important points relative to that exhibit. I, I have calculated using tax parcel data, the average width and frontage they're one and the same. And the average is, is just under it's 79.71 feet, which is the average width and frontage. Now the, the, the proposed lots this evening are 75.5 for, for lot width and frontage on a proposed lot, a and 75.25, the proposed lot B and C. So I would submit that what's proposed is, is, is generally consistent with the character of the area and also the character of those lots that I had shown. Also those lots are substantially smaller than the lots that are proposed. The average of, of those of those seven lots is, is 15,000 9 71 square feet. What's proposed, as you heard from Mr. Walker is, is foreign, is foreign excess of the, of the lot area, which is, is permitted in this zone. So I think those two points are instructive from the standpoint, you know, of these variants. Number one, what's proposed is not creating a, a condition, which is inconsistent with the general character of the area. And number two, this proposal creates three lots that are not only substantially larger than the, the minimum lot area, but also, which are substantially larger than the average of those lots that I showed in the exhibit. So that's just  
Speaker 1     02:01:07    Maybe for the record that the square footage of all three lots or in excess of thousand square fees, is that right?  
Speaker 17    02:01:17    Correct. Correct. Which are, which are, you know, foreign, excess of the, the lot area, which is permitted in the zone as a minimum. So that's the character of the area relative to the positive criteria in this application, you know, certainly from a planning standpoint, with that context in place, I would say, you know, this application does promote multiple purposes of zoning, light air and open space, a sufficient space, appropriate locations. You know, certainly I, I think which is instructive for this application for the board is that despite the fact that there are some variances that are required as stated by Mr. Walker, no variances are required for, for setbacks or coverage from a, a planning perspective. This speaks to these lots being, you know, suitable for, for these houses.  
Speaker 17    02:02:16    As Mr. Walker had, had testified, we are taking down some trees, but we're putting up 14 trees. So, so three more trees then than, than, than you would've currently, you know, on the properties today. And, and again, I, I think what's proposed as you saw, you know, from, from the site exhibit, you know, from Mr. Walker, you know, these host will be brand new, obviously. So I believe from a planning perspective, this will add to the character of the area from the negative criteria. Certainly I don't see these variances if they're granted will present any substantial detriments to the public. Good. Again, these variances which are required are not, you know, generally they're, they're consistent with the character of the area. There's, there's more than enough space, you know, for access for, for fire and police. And I think importantly, the improvements are outside the buffer, you know, for the wetlands. So certainly I certainly don't see any impact to the public. Good, you know, whether or not this will impact the zone plan, the zoning ordinance, certainly these are permitted uses. This is an opportunity to improve the condition on, on proposed lot a and, you know, to, to provide for, for two new brand new houses on the street as well. So I don't see any impact to the purpose of the, of the zoning ordinance and, and the zoning plan, you know, should these variances be granted? That concludes my testimony. Be happy to take any questions.  
Speaker 1     02:04:01    No, I'll just to clarify, there is, I guess on accessory uses the existing lot does have two, two side yard variances that are required. Is that right?  
Speaker 17    02:04:16    That is correct. So I proposed lot a does have two variances. However, those conditions will not be changing, but I actually, I should say that for proposed lot a, there are two principle structures that are currently on the site and, and one principle structure is proposed. So certainly that's an improvement from the current condition and the, the side yard setback as well for this shed. But the, the garage as the principal structure, of course will no longer be on that site. So which currently exist today and, and what's proposed is, is not gonna change for that side yard setback.  
Speaker 1     02:05:02    Thank you. Is there any questions that the board has of this witness?  
Speaker 3     02:05:08    Yes. I have a Mr. Ross,  
Speaker 17    02:05:15    Adam chair, I, as  
Speaker 3     02:05:16    You illustrated,  
Speaker 17    02:05:19    I think you're breaking up. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear  
Speaker 3     02:05:22    You. Okay.  
Speaker 1     02:05:23    You're good now, but you froze, you froze on the beginning. So what was your question, Adam chair?  
Speaker 3     02:05:35    I it's, I agree that the, that there are narrow lots narrower, lots then as called for in the, in the hundred, fifth hundred foot width requirement for each property. And that is the character of the neighborhood. However, these houses are by design. Now, are you, is your testimony meant to indicate that they should not be made narrower as suggested by the site plan or they should be kept that the width of the houses should be the reduction of the side yard set box should be less as opposed to more, since there is so much depth to the property, it seems not to be so much of a, a hardship to be able to narrow make the houses narrower because they have much more footage in the back.  
Speaker 17    02:06:20    Well, we've  
Speaker 1     02:06:21    Already agreed to that condition to right hour to width, to 45 feet.  
Speaker 3     02:06:27    Okay. But I didn't know whether he was trying to not agree to that request.  
Speaker 17    02:06:32    Oh, no, no. That that's, you know, we made that request and, and certainly it's my testimony that the applicant, you know, will comply with that request.  
Speaker 3     02:06:42    Okay. Any other questions from other board members? Okay. We can open it up to the public. Ms. Buckley, do you see any other, any questions coming from the public?  
Speaker 6     02:07:00    No. Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:07:01    Okay. Close to the public. Any discussion on part of the board as to this application,  
Speaker 1     02:07:11    Mr. Wiley, do you have any, any thoughts I have, I have no further witnesses and I'll spar the board. My summation.  
Speaker 3     02:07:22    Thank you. Can I have a motion from anyone on the board?  
Speaker 6     02:07:26    Madam chair on Corcoran? I like to make a motion that we approve the application subject to the reports discussed with the additional condition that an extra conduit line be added to each new dwelling. Also a condition that no permits shall be issued for either one of the new proposed single family dwellings until the existing part apartment has been converted back to a garage. And I think, I believe that is all  
Speaker 1     02:07:58    I, I like  
Speaker 6     02:07:59    Wanna say, oh, I'm sorry. I was gonna say that the width of the homes be reduced to 45 feet, that the homes be no higher than 33 feet. And again, that the existing dwellings remain as a single family home only did I cover 'em all.  
Speaker 1     02:08:18    Oh, there was one area that I forgot to mention, but I had discussed with Mr. Clark in, and that is to put a restrictive covenant on lot a to ensure that the, that they know that there's a garage there and not an additional unit.  
Speaker 6     02:08:36    Great. Thank you,  
Speaker 1     02:08:40    Reverend Kinneally secondhand motion.  
Speaker 3     02:08:42    Thank you. Roll call Ms. Buckley  
Speaker 2     02:08:46    Mayor Wahler  
Speaker 6     02:08:48    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:08:48    Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran.  
Speaker 6     02:08:52    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:08:53    Ms. Saunders.  
Speaker 6     02:08:54    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:08:55    Reverend Kinneally.  
Speaker 1     02:08:56    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:08:57    Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 1     02:08:58    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:08:59    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:09:01    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:09:03    Thank you. Thank have a good night, everybody.  
Speaker 3     02:09:09    Thank you. You too.  
Speaker 1     02:09:11    Thank you. Have a good night  
Speaker 3     02:09:13    Item number 16, 22, PB 10 slash 11 V Piscataway park, preliminary and final C  
Speaker 1     02:09:21    Madam chair, Bob Smith. I'm a licensed attorney in the state of New Jersey. I'm here tonight representing the Piscataway park application. You have before you a very, very minor expansion of what is commonly known today as Royal gardens, but is being rebranded as Piscataway park. The address of the project is 3 0 6 oh new Brunswick avenue, which is the home of approximately 550 units slash families. The proposed edition is 675 square feet, and we are in the RM multifamily zone. And while you have a list on your agenda of a whole bunch of variances, all of them are existing conditions slash previously approved. Very, very minor exceptions. The only actual real variance that's being requested is with regard to maximum building coverage, where the Township standard is 20%. The existing condition is 20.9% that's existing. And the very, very minor expansion is 20.94%. So in effect the, the expansion of the coverage variance that currently exists, or the, the current condition is oh, 4%, which we would argue to is absolutely minimal. It's my intention to call two witnesses for expedited testimony in ti in terms of the time of night. And that is Mr. Mike Zucker, who is the overall manager of this property and other properties. And Mr. Craig, Sters, who's our licensed professional engineer to give her very brief description of the, of the expansion with your permission and ask that Mr. Zucker be called and sworn so that he can give testimony. Mr. Zucker,  
Speaker 5     02:11:33    Excuse me, Mr. Zucker, can you please raise your right hand  
Speaker 18    02:11:40    There? Yes.  
Speaker 5     02:11:42    Okay. Do you swear the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 18    02:11:46    I affirm  
Speaker 5     02:11:48    State and spell your name for the record.  
Speaker 18    02:11:51    Michael Zucker, Z U C K E R.  
Speaker 5     02:11:54    Thank you,  
Speaker 1     02:11:56    Mr. Zucker for the record by whom are you employed? And in what capacity  
Speaker 18    02:12:01    I'm employed by Jersey central management as a regional property manager for the two Piscataway properties, as well as many other properties throughout New Jersey.  
Speaker 1     02:12:12    All right. And just by way of a little background in history, your company currently owns pleasant view gardens, and you've recently acquired what is currently known as, but which is being rebranded to Piscataway park currently known as Royal gardens. Your company now owns that complex as well, correct?  
Speaker 18    02:12:31    That's correct. Yeah.  
Speaker 1     02:12:32    All right. And both of these complexes have been around forever, not literally, but I can, when I first came to Piscataway, which is in the seventies, early seventies, they were both in existence. So the pro the properties have, have literally been around for our adult lives. And now that you have, your company has acquired Piscataway park, AKA Royal gardens, it's your intention to improve it, correct?  
Speaker 18    02:13:01    Correct. Similar, similar to what we have done at the Pleasantville, all the, all that, although those in the town that are familiar, we continue to invest in the facade, improve renovate apartments, make many energy efficient measures, such as replacing boilers, insulate L E D lighting. And we tried to service the tenants to the best of our ability to that they should have reliable equipment and, and improve the tendency.  
Speaker 1     02:13:43    Terrific. And tonight we're in for a 675 square foot site plan approval. And that point, oh, for oh 4% coverage variance, what is the purpose of the 675 square foot expansion?  
Speaker 18    02:14:01    What we're trying to do is right now, the previous owner, that when I assume they built the, the, the clubhouse and the try to squeeze in an office and a fitness center into, you know, a real small, a small area, and the office is not a functional office. We're trying to expand the office, use the office in the current fitness center for, in the area that has a conference room, a lounge, an area that can service prospects and tenants and make minor, minor events for the tenants and make, make everyone that walks into their office feel, feel at home, make, make a good impression. First impression for every prospect, an applicant that comes to renter and, you know, SIM similar to what we did in, in the, the Plaza view club S as well, we renovated it, renovated, made the state of abroad, you know, fitness. We made improvements to the pool and that's that this is something that we do. We want, we want more of a functional, a functional office and fitness center,  
Speaker 1     02:15:18    Right? So one of the primary themes of this 675 square foot edition is expanding the fitness correct center. Correct.  
Speaker 18    02:15:30    Right.  
Speaker 1     02:15:31    And most of the addition in fact, is new exercise space. Is that also  
Speaker 18    02:15:37    The, the addition, the addition is gonna be for the fitness area, but we're gonna take a portion of the current fitness area and convert that to expand the office, the office and lounge.  
Speaker 1     02:15:50    Okay. So one of in the planners memorandum, which we all reviewed, there was a suggestion that you consider EV spaces. And you asked my opinion about whether it's required or is a suggestion. And as the staff knows, we've now gotten an interpretation from the department of community affairs, which indicates that in order for EV space to be acquired, there has to be an expansion of the parking lot. Is there any expansion of the parking lot proposed here?  
Speaker 18    02:16:22    No, not at this time.  
Speaker 1     02:16:23    All right. But that being said in light of the fact that Piscataway park wants to be a good neighbor and you wanna be progressive. My understanding is that you're offering to live with a condition that would require two new EV parking spaces. Is that true?  
Speaker 18    02:16:43    That's correct. Yeah. Similar to what we've we've done at, we've done it at pleasure. You as well.  
Speaker 1     02:16:48    Okay. Mr. Zucker is available for questions.  
Speaker 3     02:16:53    Now, any questions from the members of the board regarding this application? I hear no questions. Let's open it to the public. Ms. Buckley, do you see anybody wishing to question Ms. Buttons and the public?  
Speaker 1     02:17:10    No. Madam chair,  
Speaker 3     02:17:11    Then it's close to the public. Mr. Smith. You May 2nd witness your next witness.  
Speaker 1     02:17:16    Second and last witness is Craig. I'd that Mr. Be called and sworn so they can give testimony.  
Speaker 5     02:17:24    Mr. Sters, can you please raise your right hand? You swear the testimony about to give, would you truth and nothing but the truth?  
Speaker 19    02:17:31    Yes, I do.  
Speaker 5     02:17:32    Please state and spell your name for the record.  
Speaker 19    02:17:35    Craig Sters S T I R E S.  
Speaker 5     02:17:39    Thank you,  
Speaker 1     02:17:40    Mr. Sters for the record by whom are you employed? And in what capacity?  
Speaker 19    02:17:45    I'm the president of tyers associates and I'm professional engineer in state of New Jersey.  
Speaker 1     02:17:50    All right. And you've been previously accepted by this board as a licensed PE?  
Speaker 19    02:17:55    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:17:55    All right. And you remember how long ago? That was  
Speaker 19    02:18:02    Probably a couple years ago. I've done it. Couple projects for L'Oreal on Newing England avenue. We just did a project on new Brunswick road couple months ago. So we're  
Speaker 1     02:18:15    Active. So the question is, have your credentials deteriorated way since the last time you were accepted as a PE in Piscataway?  
Speaker 19    02:18:23    No, they haven't.  
Speaker 1     02:18:25    Madam chair asked he be accepted as a expert in this field.  
Speaker 3     02:18:31    Mr. Star has accepted by this four.  
Speaker 19    02:18:34    Terrific.  
Speaker 1     02:18:34    All right. If you would, Mr. Sters briefly describe the surroundings on the site. You might want to show us what the, what the site looks like, and in general, describe what we're doing.  
Speaker 19    02:18:50    See if I can share my screen here, don't have any luck.  
Speaker 19    02:19:13    I did have a rendering, but it doesn't look like it's can call it up. So lemme just go back here. Anyway, as Bob said, that the property's located on, on the west side of new Brunswick avenue, which is on the Eastly side of Piscataway Township, just across the street is South Plainfield. And the property is known as block 6 16, 0 1 lot. One, 1.04, 1.05 property consists of just under 36 acres and has a it's obviously apartment complex with 25 buildings, 550 apartments. And also the subject of the application tonight, community building, which is up near new Brunswick avenue. Property's in the RM zone multifamily zone. The use is permitted, as Bob also said, there are a number of nonconformities that are existing. One being front yard for principal structure, 63.6, five feet front yard for accessory it's 44.59 side yard principle structure, 2020 3.64 side yard, accessory structure, 9.06. The, the lot coverage is 20.9. The head accessory structure, which is the community building itself is 19 feet. And the number of parking spots that's required based on the RS, I S is 1100 and we have 1046.  
Speaker 1     02:20:53    Right. And that's, those are all existing conditions, correct?  
Speaker 19    02:20:55    That is correct. Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:20:57    All right. And I think also very good time for us to say we're no longer looking for one of the variances that we're listed, which is screening of outdoor mechanical equipment and we're, and the proposal was no screening of air conditioning units. We saw that request and requirement in Mr. Stein's report and we have no problem providing the appropriate screening. Correct?  
Speaker 19    02:21:22    Correct.  
Speaker 1     02:21:23    Okay. And it's also true. I believe on one of the setbacks were now more conforming than we were previously. Is that true?  
Speaker 19    02:21:39    Well, I think what the, the planner was pointing out was the setback from the addition, as opposed to the rest of the building. So the addition is further back, I believe it's 40, 48 and change from the front yard,  
Speaker 1     02:21:54    Which is better than it currently is. Correct?  
Speaker 19    02:21:57    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:21:58    Okay. So in fact, really the only new variance is the increase in the coverage from 20.9% to 20.94%. Correct?  
Speaker 19    02:22:09    That is correct. Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:22:10    You and your opinion as a, an engineer, does that come in the category of really tiny, tiny justice smidge Dimus those are technical terms.  
Speaker 19    02:22:24    Yes. I would agree with that. Agree with that assessment.  
Speaker 1     02:22:27    All right. Have you had an opportunity to review with our client, the report by, from community development for Mr. Hinterstein? Were there any items on that report with which the applicant is unwilling to comply? And that's the report dated July 26th, 2022? The only item we, we, well, we don't disagree with it, but item one says, though, we will comply with the state and local EV charging station requirements. And the answer is it doesn't apply because there's no new parking spaces. So other than that, is there any, any item on this list with which we are not, or the record indicating that we will comply?  
Speaker 19    02:23:16    No, we will work with Henry as usual and comply with the, his request.  
Speaker 1     02:23:21    Right. And one last comment on this item, 11 says documents required to be submitted Middlesex county letter. It is true that we've received the conditional approval from the Middlesex county planning board, correct?  
Speaker 19    02:23:37    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:23:38    Right. And there are only request to show ADA compliance, which we are happy to do.  
Speaker 19    02:23:43    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:23:44    Okay. Now, Mr. Sters is available for questions  
Speaker 3     02:23:50    Members of the board. Do you have any question of Mr. Starers at this time? I see no hands. Can we open to the public? Hold on. Sorry.  
Speaker 0     02:24:00    Madam chair. Just wanted to make sure. I, I didn't know if we covered, I apologize about the, the master plan half with,  
Speaker 19    02:24:10    For new Brunswick avenue.  
Speaker 0     02:24:12    That's correct.  
Speaker 19    02:24:14    New Brunwick avenue is a county road. However, there had, we do have a number of dedications on there and when I contacted them, they were satisfied with the dedications that have been previously.  
Speaker 0     02:24:29    I just wanna check with Ms. Corcoran. I'm assuming we have everything that we need  
Speaker 1     02:24:39    Cannot hear Ms. Corcoran,  
Speaker 3     02:24:41    Corcoran.  
Speaker 6     02:24:42    I am so sorry. I have, that is correct. The, our Township engineer today has confirmed that we have any right away that is necessary for new Brunswick avenue. As Craig said, we've had dedications. I believe there's also an easement out there, which is in fact shown I believe under survey.  
Speaker 19    02:25:03    Yeah.  
Speaker 0     02:25:06    Okay. Thanks. Thank you, Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:25:09    Okay. We need to open it to the public for questioning. Is there anyone in the public who would like to question this witness? Ms. Buckley? Do you see any hands  
Speaker 1     02:25:21    Laura you're muted,  
Speaker 3     02:25:24    But I read her lips this time. Okay. Seeing no a close to the public, seeing that there's no hands, what's your pleasure members of the board. The application is before you  
Speaker 0     02:25:41    Madam chair, before we take a formal vote, I just wanna give a little back history on this site. As the applicant said that they're trying to upgrade the site. This site was as well as the adjacent Pleasantview gardens were the first apartment complexes in Piscataway back in the sixties. As a matter of fact, it was the pleasant view farms originally prior to them apartments, which was a dairy farm here in town. As a matter of fact, my one of my siblings has one of the original milk bottles that says pleasant view farms on it. So just a little fact note there, Madam chair,  
Speaker 3     02:26:21    A little history. Okay. Members that's even makes it more member. Interesting board members. Do I have a motion  
Speaker 7     02:26:30    Adam chair? This is Councilwoman Cahill. I would make the motion that we approve this application with the requirements as stated by Dawn Corcoran and confirming that we do have the halfway width that's needed all the dedications out there. That would be my submission of Mr. Barlow. Did I miss anything that you be added there?  
Speaker 1     02:26:59    No, no. Madam, no miss Cahill, Councilman Cahill. And also the two EV stations,  
Speaker 7     02:27:06    Right. And the two EV stations, right?  
Speaker 1     02:27:08    Volunteered. Yep.  
Speaker 3     02:27:11    Can I get a second please?  
Speaker 1     02:27:13    I chair Reverend Kinneally I'll second that motion.  
Speaker 3     02:27:17    Thank you real  
Speaker 1     02:27:18    That time in the sixties. Mayor,  
Speaker 2     02:27:21    Mayor, Mayor, Mayor, Mayor,  
Speaker 18    02:27:23    Mayor, Mayor. Wahler just to clarify, I'm sorry. The EV station is one EV station with two double charger. That's typically what we do. It's it's two, two charges and one it's. It could accommodate two cars at one time.  
Speaker 1     02:27:39    Okay. Yeah.  
Speaker 18    02:27:40    Yeah. I just wanna clarify that  
Speaker 1     02:27:42    The two spots are next to each other, I guess. And you it's the two EV charging stations yep.  
Speaker 3     02:27:50    On one poll, I guess.  
Speaker 1     02:27:52    Yeah. Right?  
Speaker 2     02:27:54    Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Wonders. Yes. Reverend Kinneally  
Speaker 1     02:28:00    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:28:01    MSS.  
Speaker 3     02:28:02    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:28:03    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:28:04    Yes. And before we go, I'd also like to congratulate you on recognizing a tenant that had been there for 50 years. It was a very nice tribute to her. And that, that you did that. Thank you,  
Speaker 1     02:28:17    Adam chair, if we could ask for a favor here while it's a small edition, Mr. Zucker, trying to get it done as quickly as possible and on that theory. And also while the weather's good, et cetera, etcetera, while, and while the weather's good, we'd like to get it done. So we did make a request that the board might consider a memorialized resolution of approval in light of how small this is, but it also helps to get the building permit underway. And the res the resolution that was prepared by Mr. Barlow has one inaccuracy. And the one inaccuracy is that we were planning to put two renderings in front of the boards night, the aerial and the site plan. And we had technical difficulties as Mr. Sters, unfortunately indicated, but we'd ask that you consider the memorialized resolution so we can get this construction underway and in place for the tenants, as soon as possible, I would echo what Mr. Smith said, the resolution that I prepared in an, in the possible anticipation, this might be approved does contain the language as to the two EV parking spaces, along with the other items that the, the applicant agreed to. I'll have to make a small change with Laura, just to remove the reference to the exhibits. But if it's the board pleasure, the board's pleasure could adopt a resolution this evening.  
Speaker 3     02:29:54    Ms. Andes  
Speaker 5     02:29:56    Ma'am Chairman. I like the Memorial live application, 22 PB dash 10 slash 11 V for Piscataway park, preliminary and fight on site playing with Bullard Varis.  
Speaker 3     02:30:08    Thank you. Do I have a second joined Corcoran on second. Thank you. Real  
Speaker 2     02:30:16    Mayor Wahler yes. Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Saunders.  
Speaker 5     02:30:24    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:30:25    Reverend Kinneally  
Speaker 1     02:30:26    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:30:27    Dragons.  
Speaker 1     02:30:28    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:30:29    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:30:31    Yes.  
Speaker 1     02:30:31    Thank you. Thank you. Madam chair members. We appreciate you're  
Speaker 3     02:30:34    Quite welcome. Motion to adjourn.  
Speaker 1     02:30:36    No, Madam chair item. We have one more item. I missed the two on the agenda. My bad. You may recall a while back. Kevin Morris was before the board with regards to a minor subdivision that the board approved under the statute individual has 190 days to memorialize the subdivision. However, if the applicant has difficulties in either getting some permits or trying to figure out the different requirements that they have to comply with, either from the state or the county or DEP or anything, and they run into any delays, they're entitled to request from the planning board up to an additional year of time to perfect the subdivision. And Mr. Morris did request by letter dated last week, if the Bo August 5th, excuse me. If the board could grant him in additional 90 days to perfect the subdivision and that's that's number 17. So if the board is of a mind to grant the 90 day extension to Mr. Morse, it would be appropriate for someone to move and, and vote on that.  
Speaker 3     02:31:58    Can I get a motion to grant the extension to Mr. Morris for 90 days,  
Speaker 1     02:32:03    Reverend Kinneally I'll make a motion. Everybody wants to go home.  
Speaker 3     02:32:10    And Reverend Kinneally mote made the motion. Do I have a second?  
Speaker 2     02:32:14    Carol Saunders. Second.  
Speaker 3     02:32:15    Thank you. Roll Paul, please.  
Speaker 2     02:32:18    Mayor Wahler.  
Speaker 4     02:32:19    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:32:20    Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kinneally. Yes. Mr. Atkins.  
Speaker 1     02:32:29    Yes.  
Speaker 2     02:32:30    And Madam chair.  
Speaker 3     02:32:32    Yes. Thank you everyone.  
Speaker 2     02:32:35    Now, adjourn.  
Speaker 3     02:32:36    Now he's adjourn.  
Speaker 1     02:32:40    Wonderful. Enjoy the rest  
Speaker 3     02:32:45    Day.