Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on October 14 2021
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Speaker 1 00:00:10 Alright, one more minute. Speaker 0 00:00:21 Can you be expected? October 14th? Speaker 1 00:00:27 Absolutely crazy. Poor daughter this morning, going into nine years old, put sweat pants on and get your shirt. I'm like, wait, it's going to be 80. I'm like In progress. All right, chairman. We're ready to rock and roll. Speaker 0 00:00:49 Okay. Speaker 1 00:00:56 Yeah. I'm just trying to see. Oh, I think it's Speaker 0 00:01:03 Okay. All right. Good evening. Everyone. Zoning board of adjustment meeting will please adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the courier news and the star ledger clerk. Please call the roll. Speaker 1 00:01:32 Mr. Tillery. Mr. Reggio, Mr. Blount, Mr. Mirando, Mr. Chairman, I don't know whose that is. You are not on your application. Please stay on mute for now. I don't know who that everybody else is. Speaker 0 00:02:16 Okay, well, everyone, please stand up Speaker 1 00:02:18 And Nelson, please mute yourself. I keep muting you. You keep unmuting yourself. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:02:25 Okay. Please stand for the salute to the flag. I pledge allegiance to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with Liberty and justice. Mr. Keneally do we have any changes to the agenda? Yes. We have a few changes to the agenda tonight to be carried Speaker 2 00:02:59 Jim Nelson's on tonight. That was the last meeting. Okay.until November 4th, 2021. And those applicants must notice that meeting, correct? That's it? Those are all the changes. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:03:27 Okay. Let's start with a number 5 21 ZB there. 61 V. Peter. Speaker 2 00:03:37 Mr. Brock, are you present Mr. Brock? Are you present showing the meeting? Mr. Brock? Can you hear us, Mr. Brock? We can see you, but we cannot hear you. You're on your phone. Hit star six to unmute. Speaker 3 00:04:04 Um, okay. Can you hear me now, Speaker 2 00:04:07 Mr. Mr. Brock, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 3 00:04:15 Yes, sir. Speaker 2 00:04:17 Please. Mr. Brock, you froze up. Can I have your name and address please? Speaker 3 00:04:28 My name is Peter Brock. I live at 3 9, 3 met Lars lane and Piscataway. Speaker 2 00:04:34 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would want to do here? Speaker 3 00:04:38 Yeah, so I, when I purchased the house in 2003, the house had a shed that's approximately 25 by 14 feet, six inches. It's located four foot, four and a half inches from the property line. I have a survey from the previous owner detailing the survey on the property. I'd like to keep the shed as is on the property. Speaker 2 00:05:04 Have you seen Mr. report that notes? That the shed is in a state of disrepair. Speaker 3 00:05:10 So on the front of the shed, there it's three open doors and I had tarps over the doors to keep the deer out. Speaker 2 00:05:19 Barry, you're willing to make any repairs necessary so that you can get rid of the torch. So you'll comply with Mr. Henderson's report in this matter. Speaker 3 00:05:32 Yes. I'm kidding you to take the, I will take the tarps down. I could either leave the front open or fabricate doors for the front of it. Speaker 2 00:05:41 Okay. Uh, is Mr. Hammerstein with us? I'm here, Jen Henry. Does that address your concerns? I mean, typically the sheds would have some kind of door on it. Um, but if was Speaker 4 00:05:57 Left as an open shed, I mean, it's sort of, like you said, is you're leaving it open to the weather and it could be out of the, and so I would think that the doors, um, are fabricating a closed front with perhaps one double door or, you know, however many doors as long as it looks neat. And, um, you know, uh, anything I think will be better than the parks. Speaker 2 00:06:22 Mr. Brock, are you willing to put doors on the ship? Speaker 0 00:06:26 Yes, sir. Speaker 2 00:06:27 Okay. Thank you questions for Mr. Brock. Speaker 0 00:06:34 Okay. You're only the board members have any questions or comments. Okay. And we'll open it up to the public. There's a public happening. Speaker 2 00:06:53 Laura. Do you see anyone from the public that wishes to be heard? Speaker 1 00:06:57 No, sir. Everybody's on mute. I apologize. Speaker 0 00:07:07 Okay. Then I will make an, I will make a motion to approve this application on a second. Speaker 1 00:07:18 Oh, fish fishes on the ball. Okay. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Reggio, Mr. Blount, Mr. Mitchell Rondo. Yes. Mr. Ali. Yes. And vice chairman's a Speaker 0 00:07:35 Yes. Speaker 2 00:07:37 Mr. Brock, your application has been approved with the condition that you put doors on the shed and get rid of the tarps. We'll memorialize this in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for them. Speaker 0 00:07:48 Thank you everybody. I appreciate your assistance with this process. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you. Okay. Moving on to number 6 21 dash ZB 47 V Nelson. Foucher of course. So sorry if I, Speaker 2 00:08:10 It was Mr. Bell corral. Pres Speaker 5 00:08:15 Uh, yes, I'm here. Speaker 2 00:08:17 Okay, sir, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Yes. Your name and address for, Speaker 5 00:08:26 Uh, Nelson. Balcarcel one 70 mountain avenue in Piscataway. Speaker 2 00:08:32 I'm sorry for mispronouncing your name earlier. Uh, could you explain to the board what you'd like to do here? Speaker 5 00:08:37 So, uh, I like to put a six foot, uh, privacy fence along the back of my yard. And when I put a, a double gate on the, on the side road there, it's only going to be it's four foot four foot gate. So it's only going to be a foot. Why? Speaker 2 00:09:03 Uh, Mr. Zimmerman, um, Mr. Henderson has a report in this matter. You may want to talk to him about discussing this with the applicant, Speaker 0 00:09:10 Mr. . Interesting. Do you have any, uh, comments on this? Speaker 4 00:09:20 Yeah, I mean, I had several comments, I dunno, as the applicant had a chance to review the report. Speaker 5 00:09:27 Uh, yes. Speaker 4 00:09:28 I mean the first two items are basically, uh, just easements that are needed by the township in order to create the necessary and growed with, um, the plan. Speaker 5 00:09:42 They are very widened the road and they're still like seven or eight foot left between the road and the fence. Speaker 4 00:09:51 Yeah. Well, the first item again, the there's a certain right away that, that that road is master plan for, uh, the town always tries to bring these streets to their master plan with, uh, or half with in this particular case, um, in front of your house, uh, I believe on mountain having you it's eight feet short of where the right of way supposed to be, uh, to line up with the master plan. So we're asking that an easement and again, with the Neasman that doesn't take property away from your property, what it does is just gives the township the right to let's say, put sidewalk in that area. I understand, I don't think the road is ever really going to be widened on mountain avenue. It's, it's more of a, you know, something that they look forward to the future. I'm not saying it ever happened, but again, it's an easement. I think usually the township prepares those easements, uh, documents. And as far as the temporary goes, it's again, if they're not doing any construction, uh, construction, you probably not gonna need that easement. Uh, but it's something that the township usually asks for. Um, and the temporary one is just in case like they ever damaged grass. When they're doing the sidewalk work, they'll repair it, but they just want to make sure they have the right to, to fix whatever they're disturbing when they put in the, uh, Speaker 5 00:11:11 I understand. So the problem is not on mountain avenue. The problem is on locals avenue, Speaker 4 00:11:18 The story. So, um, on, on locust avenue, um, what you're proposing is the fence being way too close to the property line. I think you're proposing it to be on the property line if I'm not mistaken. Yes. So what we're asking for is the fence to be 10 feet from the property line, which is typically about 20 feet from the face of the curb. Um, and what that does is it gives neighboring properties, uh, visibility, sort of a psych corridor. So when they're backing in and out of driveways coming down the street, there's that added visibility, uh, coming down the street, then having that fence right up against the sidewalk. Speaker 5 00:11:56 I, I understand that, but mountain avenue is like a hundred, about 80 to a hundred feet from where we're in my fence. It's I already have friends there that's four foot tall and you can see right through the fence. Well, Speaker 4 00:12:12 That's allowed see, that's the difference. Speaker 5 00:12:14 Yeah. But the problem is towards the end of my property in the back, I wish I could show you, but I'm only asking for, for about eight, eight feet all the way in the back. Speaker 4 00:12:29 Yeah. I mean, I understand even if it's one little section, but the whatever fence is then within 10 feet of a right of way is not something that usually it's the side of your house, your F your frontage is on mountain avenue, I imagine. Correct. And then the side is on the locus and that's the side, that's the issue. I mean, obviously you're lining up the fence with the front or the back of your house, um, on that, on, against Melvin avenue right away. But it's, it's being that close to the street on the side. I mean, it's, I understand you have a corner property, and it's a little bit of a hardship, but you have to understand the norm would be, as you're only allowed to have a, a four foot fence, 50% solid anywhere in the front yard setback. So I believe this is an, our 10 zone. Your front yard setback, I believe is 35 feet. Um, so you would, you would have to have you wouldn't, you're technically not supposed to have a solid fence, 35 feet from the property line against locust avenue. Speaker 5 00:13:32 I dunno if, uh, if you guys can tell it's hard to explain what you're not looking at the right picture, but I don't know if you can, it's hard to even put this on the camera. Speaker 2 00:13:44 Uh, we can see it. Did you submit this with your application package? Don't all the members have it in front of them. Speaker 5 00:13:53 All right. So let me see if I can, I can, uh, I can set this on, uh, on the screen. So you guys understand what I'm saying? No, but if they see it, so this is, this is the side street that I'm on that I have, let me see. I don't know how to position it on the screen. So you, so you guys understand, I think it's bad. Speaker 5 00:14:22 All right. So on locus here, I already have, this is four foot and this is four foot and you can, you can see all the way through. Now, the only section, um, I'm asking for it is back, uh, back here. I want to put a double gate there. That's six foot tall, the, the pig it's already, it's already four foot high and you can see right through it. And I dunno, I'm even confused from, from here all the way down to Mount and having it there, like, I don't know, over a hundred feet. So I don't think people coming from the cyro going into the main road are going, gonna have any, any, any problems turning it to the main road. I don't know if I'm explaining myself, right. Speaker 4 00:15:16 It again, it just doesn't, it doesn't work. You, you leaving wallet at four foot chain link fence. What, why don't you just continue to 50 the chain link fence? Um, Speaker 5 00:15:27 Because I wonder if I could do that. I could finish it off. And now the other question is the back. This is the backyard right here, correct? Can I continue my six foot fence all the way out to where I'm going to put the chain link fence? Speaker 4 00:15:44 You would, you would have to stop at 10 feet from the property line, and then you could do chain link fence from where you stopped the six foot solid fence, and then continue down locus with that four-foot fence. And you could go right on the property line with 40 foot fence. Speaker 5 00:16:04 Now, the other thing is there's already six foot fence. I'm just replacing it with vinyl fence. It's been there for, I dunno, since the fifties, cause I found the receipt on the garage Speaker 4 00:16:19 And I can't speak to that. Belinda was put in, but we don't have a record of it. Or also you wouldn't need the variance probably, but you'll wait. It would be allowed as if the permit was, you could show me that there was a permit ever issued for that fence in that location. But I don't think you're going to find that again. The problem is, is that typically of six months solid trance, wouldn't be allowed 35 feet from your property line. 10 feet is a pretty good compromise. I think it's 25 feet, you know, more than what's allowed. Speaker 5 00:16:56 Okay. So, so this is the, this is reasonable. This is the back of my yard right here. I already installed six foot bench up on 35 feet from the side road. Okay. So then I continue the six foot bench all the way out to the property line. And then from here, I'll connect it to this. The, the forefoot right here. Speaker 4 00:17:19 Again, my recommendation is that it should stop 10 feet from the property. Speaker 5 00:17:23 Yeah, no, no, definitely. No, no. You're not 10 feet from the property line. Speaker 4 00:17:28 10th, the six foot solid has to stop 10 feet from the property line. Then you would be able to, the last 10 feet could be a four foot, a four foot fence. Speaker 5 00:17:38 So, um, so the other dilemma is I have kids, you know, and we, we want privacy in the backyard Speaker 4 00:17:45 And their fence move the entire fence, make it six foot. I'm not saying not to do that. I'm saying it has to be 10 feet off the property line, Speaker 5 00:17:55 10 feet of the proper line. And then if I do that Speaker 4 00:18:00 Property Speaker 5 00:18:00 Line and I can plant trees, there Speaker 4 00:18:03 There's nothing, no rule that says you can't Speaker 5 00:18:06 All right. So, and, and what you see here, this was the old fence. I already moved it up to the property line. The old fence was sticking out four feet from the property line, Speaker 4 00:18:21 Right? That's not allowed either. Speaker 5 00:18:22 So I already moved it in to the property line. Well, Speaker 4 00:18:26 That's good Speaker 5 00:18:28 That my problem is I already installed the, the, the pink and the green, and I already bought the rest of the fence. I spent over 10, $10,000 in this fence. And this is why this is why Speaker 4 00:18:42 You're supposed to check with the town first, before you do that, Speaker 5 00:18:45 I know these problems. I understand that Speaker 6 00:18:49 Because I had my children running up the street, getting I have a baby. And Speaker 2 00:18:53 Ma'am, we don't know who you are and you have not been sworn in. If you would like to testify, I need your name. Speaker 6 00:19:00 My name is Vivian. Speaker 2 00:19:02 Vivian. What? Speaker 6 00:19:05 Okay. Speaker 2 00:19:05 Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth? Yes. Thank you. Go ahead and say whatever you need to say. Speaker 6 00:19:16 You know that I'm the one that's been asking for a six foot fence. Cause I have three kids and I can, you know, every time if they want to go outside, I don't trust for them to be there. Cause I feel like if somebody can just snatch them and take them, you know, and I want to feel frightened and have some type of privacy in my backyard. I talked to the neighbors all around, over there and they're like, I don't see why that would be a problem. Speaker 2 00:19:40 Okay. The ordinance requires a 35 foot setback from locusts property line. The township is offering you a compromise where you only have to set it back 10 feet. If you want a six foot solid fence, as Mr. Henderson has said, that's a pretty good compromise in your favor. Speaker 4 00:20:01 You know, I understand you did some work already again. You know, I can't, I can't change that. You did that on Speaker 6 00:20:09 Your own. I Speaker 4 00:20:12 Understand. I'm just saying you, you, because you did something in an order that was probably not the proper water. That's not a valid reason for us to go ahead and put the fence in an area that's not allowed by ordinance. Speaker 5 00:20:27 I, I already got a, a permit approved for the fence and I did what was approved Speaker 4 00:20:34 And the four foot fence that you moved this fine. And you can leave that if you want, but it seems like your concern is you want to have a six foot solid fence for security for privacy. So if that's what you want to do, that's my recommendation to the board is that that fence be located 10 feet from the property line, which is approximately 20 feet from the curb face. And you could put up your six foot solid fence, have a substantial private fenced in backyard. Um, is it what you want? Maybe not, but it's a pretty good compromise compared to what the board could say. The board can say, we deny your variance request, put the fence 35 feet from your property line. If you want a solid fence, that's what the board could say. So I'm just saying, I mean, I think it's a good compromise. Ultimately the board's the one that votes. They usually look at my recommendations and um, take them to heart. So, and again, I don't make up the ordinances I review and I make recommendations based on those ordinances. Speaker 5 00:21:37 And I completely understand, uh, and this is why we got a permit. This is why we're going through this fix. We want to do everything right. And we want to ask for, you know, we're asking for a open that we can, we can do it because we want to do everything right. We don't want to do anything out of order. So that's why we're here in hopefully a, I dunno, it's for my cage for the whole, for the house. And we're just trying to do everything right. So that's the whole point Speaker 4 00:22:06 Again. I mean that, that's basically my statement on defense. My opinion is that it should be moved to 10 feet off the property line, which is pretty much in conformance with most of the asks that we, you know, we can compromise with. You're not the only person that's ever come in to ask for a fence on a right of way line or, you know, up against the sidewalk. And anybody on this board, uh, can attach to the fact that we've almost always made them move the fence, a minimum of 10 feet in some cases, even more depending on how the streets laid out. Um, the only other item on the street report is there's a small pole that exist in the right of way. Don't know how that pole got there. That should be removed again. You can't have anything in the right of way. So, uh, that skinny Paul, um, Speaker 5 00:22:53 Yes, Speaker 4 00:22:55 That's got to be Speaker 5 00:22:58 There when we bought the house. Speaker 4 00:23:00 I understand. But yeah, that, that has, that would have to be removed Speaker 5 00:23:04 As well. And like I said, they just, they just did work on this side road and they're already put the sidewalk in and everything else in they're still six to seven feet from where I put the fence to where they put in the curb Speaker 4 00:23:18 Again. Speaker 5 00:23:18 I mean, that's just, I understand. Yeah. I'm just putting that out there. So you guys know what's Speaker 4 00:23:24 And landscaping is fine. You could have the defense behind the landscaping, the landscaping will grow and it's going to still provide you the same screen. So there's no ordinates, which is a little bit sort of, you know, ironic because it's like, you know, like without allowing the six foot fence, but there's nothing that says you can't put landscaping. So if you want it to, you could do a four-foot link fence and just landscape it very well. And you would have a, you know, a nice privately screened fenced in yard, but you know, that's for you to determine what you want to have. But my recommendation to the board is, is 10 feet from the property line on all fencing that's solid and six feet in height. Speaker 0 00:24:07 Okay. So Mr. Belker, so could you look comply with the Mr. comments? Speaker 4 00:24:16 Uh, uh, yes. Uh, I don't think I have an option here, so I'm going to have to comply with. Speaker 0 00:24:22 Okay. All right. Well, anyone on the, anyone on the board have any comments or questions for this application? No. Then we'll open it up to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions or comments for this application? Uh, yes. Speaker 7 00:24:43 Hi, uh, um, thank you so much for having me. Um, my name is . I'm a Rutgers student, uh, here in new Brunswick and I'm here as a part of one of my classes on an assignment. Um, Ms. Buckley, thank you so much for your help earlier, uh, with the agenda and everything. I really appreciate it. Um, I have a question. Speaker 2 00:25:05 Yeah, Speaker 7 00:25:06 Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Thank you. All right. Uh, do you need my address? Urn. Okay. Uh, 59 Huntington street, new Brunswick, New Jersey. Thank, um, yeah. So my question is for, uh, I guess it applies to, to this application, but also the previous one, um, in, in, in these applications, how does the board determine, um, is, is there kind of like a deadline that, uh, the applicants need to meet? And if that deadline is not meant, is there a penalty, uh, in, in any way Speaker 2 00:25:45 You meet a deadline for performing the work Speaker 7 00:25:48 Deadline for performing the work, or even like failure to comply with? Uh, what the, what, um, Mr. Uh, hinter seeing is like recommending Speaker 2 00:25:59 What happens is when the applicant gets an approval, they will have to satisfy any conditions of approval before they can get their building permit. And once they get their building permit, if they put the improvement in this case where this is supposed to be that at the end of it, put it in the wrong spot, uh, or if they do something that's not permitted by their approval, uh, the township has a code enforcement officer who could cite them. I'd go to municipal court in Piscataway. Speaker 7 00:26:31 Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank Speaker 2 00:26:35 You. Speaker 0 00:26:37 Anyone else from the public? No, sir. Okay. Well with that, I will make a motion to approve this application. Well, I have a second Speaker 1 00:26:51 Rodan. Yes. Sometimes I don't look up. Okay. Mr. Taylor, Mr. Reggio, Mr. Mirando? Yes. Mr. Ali. Yes. Vice chairman Zimmerman. Yes. Speaker 2 00:27:16 Your application has been approved as amended with regard to our next meeting. We'll do not need to be Speaker 0 00:27:34 Feedback on, Speaker 1 00:27:37 I don't know. Speaker 2 00:27:42 The room is silent. Speaker 1 00:27:49 Everybody's new. Okay. Let's talk Speaker 0 00:27:52 On Speaker 1 00:27:55 Number seven. Speaker 0 00:27:56 Number 7 21. There's ZB. There's 48 B cherish. Cause Wani Speaker 2 00:28:04 It is Mr. Ronnie still present I'm here. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give, should be the truth, your name and address please? Speaker 8 00:28:15 Well, I live on five 19 new Duran road in Piscataway. Speaker 2 00:28:20 We're able to change your background. Speaker 8 00:28:22 Oh, yes, yes. Thank you. Well, I just, I don't want the background, Speaker 2 00:28:26 Please explain to the board what you would like to do. Speaker 8 00:28:28 Yeah. I w uh, I bought, I want to install a plastic shed, which is lifetime brand made in USA. I want to install the shed on the side of my house, not in the front yard. Of course. I know the rules. I also reading the rule number 21, something 21 dash 6 21. So it says, should not be in the front yard, which is not. So I'm 30 feet behind the property line. The only thing is it's not in the backyard, so I want to build it there. So my kids, I have four kids, so kids can put their bikes inside that I can put my snowblower lawnmower inside that big. It'll be easy for me to mow the lawn in the front and also pick up the snowblower in the front. Speaker 2 00:29:09 Have you seen it, have you seen Mr. Henderson for report dated August 31st? Speaker 8 00:29:16 Yes, ma'am. Mr. Does teen? I think he said recommended. I can move the shed in the backyard all the way in the back, but that the purpose for me to take my kids bikes out and lawnmower and snowblower, because all the way back then when the, when the backyard is covered with snow, there's no way I could bring the snowboard in the front. And there's no other storage in there. There's no garage. There's nothing else for me to store the snowboard. So if I, this is a plastic shed, I'm not building a permanent structure, it's a plastic shed, which will keep my bikes and some tools and the lawnmower and snowblower. Speaker 2 00:29:51 Mr. Zimmerman, Speaker 0 00:29:55 Mr. Hinter stain any, uh, there's no comments. Speaker 4 00:30:00 Yeah. Well, again, I mean, this is considered an accessory structure. So, you know, the requirements are for eight foot side yard setback and the applicants, as well as the, I think the front yard supposed to be a 60 feet unaccept story. So he smacked up against the fence line. You're going to see this from the street because it's higher than any fence. And it's only, you know, um, you know, four feet from the neighboring property. So he already has the shed in the back, which is, which is fine. And that check and forms. I mean, I look at this property, it's almost a quarter of an acre in size, and there's, there's, there's plenty of locations to put this shed in a, in a conforming location or plenty places that, you know, it's the applicant's requirement to show me a hardship as to why we should deviate from the ordinance. Your ordinance is there to protect the neighboring residents and to, for good sound zoning and planning and putting this shed in this location, although maybe, you know, a little bit more convenient for you. Um, you know, I don't think it works for the, for the town. I don't think it works for the neighbors, but having that shed back close to the front yard, as well as to the side yard Speaker 2 00:31:15 Zimmerman and board members, I do want to point out that the convenience of the applicant is not a reason to grant relief from New York, Speaker 8 00:31:22 Right? No, but again, I'm not breaking any rules. It's, I'm reading the policy, reading the zoning rules that the says should not be in the front yard. I'm not in the front yard. So it's in the backyard. The only thing is it would be visible from the front. Speaker 2 00:31:34 Okay. Mr. Killarney, I don't think you understand how we define the front yard setback. Speaker 8 00:31:40 30 feet from the, Speaker 4 00:31:42 Yeah, but this is an accessory structure. There's different requirements for accessory structures, accessory structures. We require a 60 foot front yard, setbacks, and eight foot side yard setbacks. You don't comply with Speaker 8 00:31:55 No, but I have my boat side neighbors. They have fence less than three feet away from a property line. And Speaker 4 00:32:00 That is not an accessory Speaker 8 00:32:02 Fence. The side of the shed, I'm in the shed. I have pictures I have, I can share my screen here. Speaker 4 00:32:08 It is. If you put a shed that is a hundred square feet or last, and maybe this is your alternative solution, a shed that's a hundred square feet, or last 10 by 10 or smaller eight by 10, right. That could be three feet from the property line. Okay. And that could be behind the front yard setback. So maybe that's your solution. Get a smaller shed that complies with the square footage. You don't need the variance then. And you could be three feet from the side property line. And as bonus it's behind the front yard setback, you comply. Um, but you want an accessory structure. So anything over a hundred square feet is an accessory structure. I have to look at it that way and I have to look at it based on those setback requirements, not to shed setback requirements, Speaker 8 00:32:59 101 10, or one 15 square feet. It's not that big, the actual space inside Speaker 4 00:33:05 A hundred square feet. You know, what you might want to do is put it on the side and move it back further and, and move it. So that it's a little bit closer to your concrete walk this way. It's right on that concrete walk. And perhaps that's a compromise. Now. It doesn't matter. What's in the shed. If you have a concrete walk there and you could walk the snow blower up and you could walk bicycle on the side, walk up. So it still works. Um, but if you're two or three feet, four feet closer to that sidewalk. Now, now you're closer to the eight feet and you're set back a little bit further from the front yard. I could see that perhaps working, but to just leave it in that location, I don't believe that's a good solution. Um, my suggestion would be, is either find a more conforming location or get a smaller, uh, structure that complies with the ordinance for a shed. And this way you don't have these issues. Speaker 8 00:34:05 Okay. Then how, how much inside the fence line 60 feet? Speaker 4 00:34:10 Uh, I'm not saying it has to be 60. I mean, you have almost the 30 foot setback and then you have a 26 foot wide house. Like I said, if you put it towards the back, almost even with the back of the house, um, I could see that being a pretty good compromise so that it's pushed back. Um, and it would be probably closer to like a 45 to 50 feet from the front yard. And then a little bit closer to that sidewalk that you have there. And I think you're going to be maybe seven feet to eight. You might even comply with the size of your setback, but let's say you're six or seven feet off the side property line. And I think that's a good compromise. And I think that we could do something the more it can live with. Speaker 8 00:34:51 No, but that's why I applied for the variance. I cannot, I don't want to go for more than four feet from the side yard. Speaker 4 00:34:56 Yeah. I mean, that's an issue when you have a big open yard and you just say, you just don't want to do it, but you don't give a good reasoning. Speaker 8 00:35:05 What did we move the middle of nowhere? And then there'll be eight foot space behind it, but of no use. Speaker 4 00:35:11 But that's what the requirement is an eight foot space behind it. But it's not your neighbor's Speaker 8 00:35:15 Property. I'm here for the millions Speaker 4 00:35:17 And, but you haven't given me a good reason for the board to, wow. Speaker 8 00:35:22 I'll move the set back back. That's fine. I agree with you. Okay. I'll do that. But then let's keep it four feet from the, from the, Speaker 4 00:35:29 Yeah, I think you need to bring this the shed in a little bit as well. Again, a feature what's required. I mean, four feet is only half the requirement. If you told me you're going to move it two more feet closer to the sidewalk and make it six feet. I could live with that. But you know, maybe what you do is with the space behind it is you maybe do some landscape thing or something. I don't know, but that's up to you. Speaker 8 00:35:54 So six feet from the sideline from side fence side property line, and also you said 25? No, not 25. Speaker 4 00:36:00 Well, I would say even the back of the shed be even with the back of the house, whatever that ends up being. So if the sheds 12 feet long, or what is it, 15 feet long from, from the back of the house, that's going to leave you 11 feet. You're going to be about 41 feet from the street. 42 feet. Speaker 8 00:36:17 That's fine. Yeah. So can you approve that 41 feet and six feet from the, Speaker 4 00:36:22 I think that's a good compromise. I leave it up to the board, but I think that something that the board should look upon as a favorable company, Speaker 8 00:36:30 But what if I want to, if I decide to put the fence all the way back next to the other fence, is that okay? I'm not sure yet. I, I can look up to see my backyard and if it is low level or if it is not level. So based on that, so either on the side of the house, Speaker 4 00:36:46 Uh, what you're asking, Speaker 8 00:36:48 So I'm going to build it right to next, to next to the older, the other side, Speaker 4 00:36:53 You could put it right next to the other shed. As long as you're eight feet from the property lines, you can put it there. Speaker 8 00:36:59 I can do that. I'm just Speaker 4 00:37:00 Gotta make sure you're eight feet away. I mean, I don't know what the distance is now. It looks like it's close to eight feet, but it might be a little less. You'd have to double-check Speaker 8 00:37:09 When you start, six feet is okay for now. Speaker 4 00:37:12 Well, six feet, okay. From the side, but we're not asking for a vantage from the rear. And so I think if you put it next to the other shed in the back, you'll probably make the eight feet or six feet side yard variants, but I don't know what it's going to do to the rear. You don't, you don't have, we're not asking for veterans for the rear, right? So there's not going to be a, a, a van. You would have to maintain eight feet from the rear and stay six feet from the side yard, if you want to get to the back. Okay. Okay. That's good. Speaker 8 00:37:40 I added to that. Speaker 0 00:37:44 Mr. Zimmerman. There are no questions from the board. You may want to open it to the phone. Okay. Let's uh, any questions from the board? No questions. Okay. We'll open it up to the public. Any questions or comments from the public? No, sir. Nope. Okay. We'll give him that. Then I will make a motion to approve this application as amended as amended Speaker 1 00:38:17 Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Ratio. Yes. Mr. Blank. Yes. Mr. Mirando. Yes. Yes. Yes. Speaker 2 00:38:35 Um, because running your application has been approved as amended. We will memorialize it in a written document that our next meeting, you don't need to be present for that. We will send that document to you, but you'll need that to get your permits. Speaker 0 00:38:47 Thank you. Bye-bye all right. We've got the number 8 21 dash ZB. There's 65 V uh, Brexit Patel Speaker 2 00:39:00 Is present. Yes, No. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you read the gifts. You hear the truth? Speaker 9 00:39:09 Yes. Thank you. Speaker 2 00:39:11 Could you explain to the board what you'd like to do? Speaker 9 00:39:14 Uh, sure. So we are proposing a six foot solid fence are 10 feet from the property line, um, on the Brookside, uh, road off the property. Speaker 2 00:39:28 I had a chance to see Mr. report. Speaker 9 00:39:31 I'm sorry, I couldn't hear that. Speaker 2 00:39:32 I'm sorry. I think I'm breaking up a little bit. Have you had a chance to see Mr. report? And can you address the comments raised by, Speaker 9 00:39:43 Um, so, uh, yes, the proposed location should be minimum of 10 and a 10.5 feet off property line to ensure a yes, we are okay with that. Uh, we can take it 11 feet in. That's fine with us. Speaker 4 00:40:01 That's why I have no other issues. I just wanted to make sure because of the width of the fence, that if you went right to the line, that we'd be in the easement. So as long as you're within 10 and a half 11 feet, I think you're, you're fine. Speaker 9 00:40:12 Okay. That's great. Speaker 0 00:40:14 Okay. That sounds good. Do, uh, any questions or comments from the board? No questions or comments opening, opening to the public. Any questions or comments on this application from the public? No chairman. Okay. Given that I will make motion to approve this application, Speaker 1 00:40:43 Mr. Tillary. Yes. Mr. Reggio, Mr. Riley, and chairman's Speaker 2 00:41:00 Uh, Ms. Patella, your application has been approved at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will mail a copy to you and you'll need that for your permits. Okay. Speaker 9 00:41:14 Thank you for your time. Speaker 0 00:41:16 Good luck. Okay. Moving on to number 10 21 dash ZB dash 67 V. Lynn Goldberger Speaker 2 00:41:27 Is Ms. Cole burger present, uh, Ms. Cole burger. I need to swear you in, could you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Speaker 10 00:41:39 Yes. You may also want to swear in my brother-in-law Jeff co Berger Speaker 2 00:41:46 Shaking his head. No. Okay. Could you introduce the testimony about the gifts? You me the truth? Yes. One at a time. Your name and address please. Speaker 10 00:41:58 Lynn Kobe burger, 4 32 Baldwin street, Piscataway New Jersey, Speaker 2 00:42:04 Sir. Jeffrey Speaker 10 00:42:05 Co-worker 5 0 4 fifth street in Jackson, Speaker 2 00:42:09 The New Jersey. Thank you. Could one of you explain to the board and what you'd like to do here? Speaker 10 00:42:14 Uh, yes. We had applied for permits for, to do some construction on the house and they were, we were told that we needed to get variances because the existing house exceeds the allowable amount. And also because the shed in the backyard is two, is a couple inches too close to the property line. So we were asking for those two variances, Speaker 2 00:42:43 Uh, Mr. Zimmerman, you may want to, uh, ask Mr. Henderson. Speaker 0 00:42:48 Yes. Mr. Hindu stain. Uh, any comments? Speaker 4 00:42:53 Yeah, I mean, it really only had one comment. I mean, the coverage variances for the most part were preexisting. Uh, perhaps they received the variance in the past. What happens is when you exacerbate and by adding the volume, you, you need another variance because the volume of the structure is increasing. Um, that being said, again, it is preexisting, but you know, it would definitely be favorable if there was a way to, to trim it down so that it was a little bit more in conformance with the coverage, um, requirement. So my question is, is that the, the proposal is to almost double the square footage of the, of the home. You know, you know, I understand that. Is there still a need though for a check when you're adding that much volume of space to the interior of the house, you have a garage, would you still need that shed with all that added space to the house because you're you're overing coverage. So tell me why I should let you go over the coverage when you're doubling the, almost the space of the house, and you still want to maintain the shed. Speaker 10 00:44:02 The shed was existing when we bought the property, Speaker 4 00:44:06 Right? So I understand having a shed when you have 1500 square feet of house or 1800 square feet, Square feet of house, Speaker 10 00:44:16 What we're adding our bedrooms. We need the shed for the snowblower, the lawn mower, the leaf flower, the tools what's Speaker 4 00:44:26 The garage nights. Speaker 10 00:44:27 I'm Speaker 4 00:44:27 Sorry. What's the garage for a, you guys use the car from the garage for the car. Yes. 90% of the time. Okay. Speaker 4 00:44:40 Again, what, again, these are, it's an existing condition. I don't have a big issue with it. I just feel like there should be, there should be some testimony regarding that check and your need for it. So your, your statement is that you use the garage for the garage and you need that shed for the snowblower lawnmower, afterward tools, things of that nature that you really can't keep in the garage because you're using the garage as a parking parking space. That's correct, sir. Okay. No, I really don't have anything else with the board. I just wanted to have some of that testimony on the record. I think the deviation is preexisting. It's, it's been sort of diminimous in nature, uh, or minimal, I should say in nature. I don't have a big issue with the variance requests based on that testimony. Speaker 0 00:45:25 Okay. Okay. Uh, any questions from the board for this application? And we'll open it up to the public. Any one from the public, have any questions or comments for this application? Speaker 1 00:45:47 Okay. Oh, I, look, I look at your names cause there's a button you hit to wave at me. I didn't see it. I apologize. Michael MacQuarrie. Speaker 11 00:46:01 How do you do Mr. MacQuarrie? I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony? Yes, I do. My name is Michael G Macquarie. I live at 4 29 Baldwins pretty here in Piscataway. I live directly across the tree from Len Kolber and I wish to state the following. I understand Lynn coworker's situation for needing to modify her house and that this is very important for her. And as a long-time neighbor, I want to show her support by saying I concur with what is going on. And I wish that this zoning board approved changes that she wants with regard to her Paul slate. I'm sorry, property. And, uh, that's all I wish to say. Speaker 0 00:46:57 Thank you, Mr. MacQuarrie. Okay. Any other, any other, uh, questions from the, from the public for comments Speaker 1 00:47:07 Or no, sir. Speaker 0 00:47:10 Okay. We'll give him that. I think I will make a motion to approve this application, Speaker 1 00:47:18 Which one's that? Roy? I got word, Mr. Tillery, Mr. Brown, Mr. Patel, Mr. Minna Rondo Mr. Ali and vice chairman Zimmerman, Speaker 2 00:47:43 Ms. Colbert, or your application's been approved. We will memorialize in a written document in our names. You don't need to be present for that. You will send it to get your permits. Speaker 1 00:47:55 Have a good night. Speaker 0 00:48:04 Wow. Number 1121 dash ZB dash 22 V AWA D construction, LLC Speaker 2 00:48:14 Is Mr. Lanford present. Speaker 12 00:48:17 I am present, uh, good evening, Mr. Chairman members of the board, Peter Lanford appearing on behalf of the applicant. Um, this evening, I, as usual texted my witnesses to make sure that they were ready to proceed this evening. And unfortunately, one of my witnesses indicated that somehow this hearing never made it to his calendar and he is unavailable this evening. So I cannot proceed this evening, uh, as he has, testimony is critical to this presentation and I will request that this matter be carried to the next meeting. And if the board needs an extension of time, I will be more than happy to grant the extension of time through the next meeting. Speaker 2 00:48:56 Uh, Laura looking at our schedule is the next meeting available or would it be the first meeting in November where the O the only meeting in November Speaker 1 00:49:04 The w we have the 28th. It's a little fucked up. Let me just hold on one second too. Cause I had one pole off today. Three, four, will you speak fast, Mr. Lampert? Speaker 12 00:49:19 I can speak fast and I can make my witnesses speak even faster. Speaker 1 00:49:24 Then you're on October 20. Speaker 12 00:49:27 You need an extension. If you do, I'll get an extension through November 1st. Speaker 1 00:49:31 Nope. You should be good for the, okay. I will send that over to errands more for you. Speaker 12 00:49:39 Thank you very much. Speaker 2 00:49:40 Okay. So anyone here on AWA construction, LLC? One 50 central avenue. It is being carried to October 28th with no further notice by the applicant. Speaker 0 00:49:53 Okay. Thank you. All right. We will move on to, uh, adoption resolutions from the regular meeting of September 9th, Speaker 2 00:50:03 United Realty. This was a matter that came for discussion before the board back in September 19th, they actually had a previous approval from the board, but they built the house slightly closer to the street. So they needed a nine inch variance for front yard setback, which is voted to approve Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Patel, Mr. Mirando. Yes. Mr. Alini. Yes. Vice chairs. Yes. Are the resolutions from September 23rd, first to 25 old new Brunswick Rowan, which he voted to approve Mr. White. Mr. . Yes. Mr. Blunt. Yes, yes, yes, yes. For pre-existing non-conforming use of Mr. Reggio. Yes. Mr. Blunt. Yes. Mr. . Yes. Mr. Ollie. Yes. Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. The last resolution I had from the seasoning is Buddhist worship center. And this was the application for preliminary final site plan for a parking hearing. Mr. . Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes, Rhonda. Yes. Mr. Ali? Yes. Speaker 0 00:51:43 Okay. Thank you, Mr. . Next is a document made from the regular meeting. Can I have all in favor? All right. I have a motion to adjourn is adjourned and thank you everyone from your patients.