Transcript for Piscataway Re-warding meeting on December 16 2021
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Speaker 0 00:00:00 Attendance to see where we are and make sure we have everyone on that ankle, you know, that we have on Frank. See, I'm trying to get Beatrice off. Okay. I can hear you. Thank you. You need to just going through, so Beatrice, I say commissioner Jolo commissioner. Bencivenga Patty petty. Rachel, I see that you want from Albridge or you do not need Melissa Piscataway. Hello everybody. All right. Debbie from Southampton, Amboy, Kevin from Remington. Vernick I see that you're on a guest as a guest. I'm here, Tom Remington, and Vernick I see that you're on. And Madam clerk, I see drawn as well. So I see a commissioner on cat, so we can, we have all those necessary to start the meeting. So we'll get we'll get started. Speaker 0 00:02:04 Okay. The meeting is going to be called the order. We will begin with a pledge allegiance or those I pledge allegiance to the flag. injustice. I will start to me and him saying that, but notice that provided as required by chapter 2 31 public law, 1975, with respect to the longest Tribune to publish the saying you're here for that to be boarding for Middlesex county is as provided by state statute. And this is accompanied by the 2020 census. We will be doing for purposes of this meeting will be you're doing a virtual meeting with all of the clerks of the necessary talents with warts on which their council members are elected. I won't be doing this, you know, as a, as a large group meeting with separate meetings at each of the towns to follow, I'm going to ask a county clerk, Nancy PanCan to administer. They know the board of election commissioners to serve as ward commissioners for each of the five towns listed, which would be Monroe, Piscataway, overage, south Amboy, and Woodbridge, and to administer the oath to the municipal clerks of those towns as provided by statute to serve as the, as the ward commissioner for their respective towns. Speaker 1 00:03:48 Okay. Thank you very much, Tom. I would administer the oath to the board of election commissioners to service word commissioners for all word commissions and the municipal clerks to serve as work commissions for their respective municipalities. Can you hear me okay? Okay. All right. So I'm going to say I, and then state your name and then repeat after me as we go forward. I do solemnly swear that I will support the constitution or the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey. Then I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same position and to the governments established in the United States and in this state, under the authority of the people. And then I will impartially Jaslyn as perform all the duties, protocol of work commissioners to the best of my ability to they'll help me die. All right, congratulations. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:05:32 Thank you, Madam clerk. Thank you. You know, word commissioners, and again, in accordance with state statute, we formed the initial award commissions for the, for the, for the Townsend mentioned and as such to, to move forward, I will entertain motions for award commissioner serve as a chair of their respective board commissions. Speaker 1 00:05:55 I nominated Speaker 2 00:05:56 The word commissioner Sylvia able to serve as chair of each of the five word to patients. How second, Speaker 0 00:06:04 All those in favor say, aye, all those against the motion is carried a more commissioner. Civil angle will serve as chair. I will entertain motions for our ward permission to serve as vice chair prefer of the respective board commission. Speaker 1 00:06:20 I nominate what commissioner Daniel Franco to serve as I take care of each of the more commissions. Second, that motion, Speaker 0 00:06:30 All those in favor, say, aye, all those against Sydney commissioner Daniel Franco will serve as chair vice chair. I will now turn the meeting over to chairwoman angel to conduct a Speaker 2 00:06:45 Chair. Speaker 1 00:06:49 I will never entertain a motion, the public Speaker 2 00:06:59 And you're up a mob. It's an emotional doctor schedule that what shared with each of them work commissioner exported for public meetings to redeem the word back at that public notices. You may, for each meaning of the word conditions. Second, Speaker 1 00:07:30 All those in favor, say aye, or have it in the motion is carried the schedule. I couldn't hear that. Speaker 2 00:07:47 We've just, we've just approved the schedule, Amelia. Speaker 1 00:07:53 Okay. Thank you. Motion for a compensation schedule for the services of the work commissioners and support staff permissible under 40 Speaker 2 00:08:11 resolution. Same Speaker 1 00:08:22 I second that motion. All those in favor, say aye, all those events, the ayes have it on emotional care. provide them. We provide them. We're now the emotion and the selection of a professional engineer to assist the commissioners with the performance. Speaker 3 00:08:56 I would like to make a motion that run into Vernon national engineer for the purpose of assisting each board commission with the performance of its duties. Speaker 1 00:09:14 All those in favor, say, aye, the ayes have it in the motions running as the engineer for the work commissions. And it's just the more permission to entertain entertainment submission to accept, to be allocated district it's census data provided by the secretary of state Speaker 3 00:09:41 Madam chair. I make a motion that we're conditioned to accept the reality to redistricting data provided by the secretary of state statics, statutorily in 2021 C dash as residential addresses pricing, incarceration purposes. Speaker 1 00:10:11 I second that motion, all those in favor say aye or habit in the motion is carried, or commissioners will be guided by the reallocated. We just did census data provided by the state and shared by the Middlesex county board. I wouldn't do it for our engineer top line level reviewed census data, where to commissioners and members of the project at which we're in the process and how they work with your permission condition, your comments to explain, Speaker 4 00:11:10 Okay, folks, this is Kevin's Alinsky with Remington and Vernick my associate Nicholas Fallon is also on the call. I'm actually in the car heading back to the office, but I want it to be on the call. So thank you for having me. And just a brief history. The census data was, was collected for 2020, but due to the pandemic, there were, there were some of the adjustments and delays UV will with the release of that data. Typically in New Jersey, he received the census data usually by the end of March, the following year of the census, which would have been March of this year, however, due to the pandemic and other delays that data was released. And along with the rest of the country's data in September, furthermore, there was a long task. As a, as Tom had alluded to that, the numbers were then pre allocated. Speaker 4 00:12:12 What that means is the reallocated numbers, which were then released the by September 23rd, 2021 states that any incarcerated prisoners that would counted by 40 were population were artificially skew that population in a given war. So what the law states is the last note residential address of those incarcerated people are then be counted back where they used to live. And conversely, anybody that lived outside of Middlesex that was incarcerated, or I should say incarcerated outside of it'll say and lived there would also be brought back in and accounted for a hundred days reallocated numbers. So the numbers that we shared with the Middlesex county board, and now the word commissioners to reflect those reallocated census numbers. So from September 23rd, third hundred by statute, you have three months to convene a work commission, which Middlesex is satisfying by having your meeting today. And then after today we have 30 days to come up with scenarios that would bring any non-compliant wear to town within the compliance. Speaker 4 00:13:34 And the compliance is we take the reallocated census numbers, the total for a given town, we would divide it by those number of wards. Then we would take that average for that mean, if you will, we were tying to buy the 10% factor. And then we divide that in half. And we take that half number that divided by two number and subtract it from the average for your core, your floor or your low range, and add it to the average for the hive, which gives you your 10% range that we're striving to be with it. Speaker 4 00:14:11 We have to determine based on that formula, that we have used several towns in Middlesex journey to be looked at and action taken, to bring those words back into compliance. And again, I want to remind everybody, this is population, not voters, title 19 addresses, registered voters, title 40, you strictly populace to bring any water town within that less than 10% or deviation between any two words and eight municipality. And that's what we'll begin to do by being retained by the word commissions, to an analyze that census population reallocated, and to offer scenarios to the word commission, to bring those non-compliant municipalities into compliance as data by statutes. Hopefully everybody heard me. Speaker 2 00:15:08 Yes. Thanks Kevin. Speaker 4 00:15:10 You're welcome Speaker 2 00:15:12 Commissioner permit. Well, I can start. I have three items first. The, the other board of elections commissioners heard this before, but the situation is that the congressional redistricting congressional lines must be finished by January 15th, which is after our date. And the congressional lines can cut right through individual election districts, et cetera, because they have no variance. They have to be exactly the same in each of the 12 districts plus or minus one person after person. Speaker 4 00:15:56 But by the way, I can commission commissioner cats. Excuse me. If I, if I could interject, I just was in the Essex county board through their work commissioner meetings. Hence why I'm on the road. I just learned that the congressional redistricting map will be adopted next Tuesday. The 21st. I know they have until the 15th of January, 2022, but I just learned because one of the board members there actually sits on the congressional redistricting committee. I learned it. I believe that's going to be available next week. Speaker 2 00:16:29 The final map, because are absolutely Speaker 4 00:16:31 Right. Speaker 2 00:16:32 I spoke to one of the commissioners two days ago and he was, it had to be by the 15th day was helpful. There would be earlier, but no today. So is that this doesn't appear to be are on December 21st Speaker 4 00:16:45 From what I understand that that's a verbal commitment I heard, but it's it's, I would say it's better than 50 50. So I did not get that officially or in writing, but from what I understand from one of those commissioners, that yes, it will be available next week, which is good news in a way, if there's a silver lining to the delay on that, we can now have that in consideration when we do the rewarding, because you're absolutely right commissioner that that would impact the board. So we'll know by next week, but from my understanding, it will not go into the 15th of January of next year. Go hide the sooner. Speaker 2 00:17:24 That's certainly good. The second thing that I wanted to bring up, so that at that point, if that comes through we'll work with you, we'll be able to work with those numbers. The second thing is I think every word commissioner for us started starting the process should have a current boarding district map on there. There are all of the respective municipalities showing the population in each current election district, I think possible the per each per, per each block within the district, as well as for general purposes, register number of registered voters for purposes of our doing some of the election district, the district changes as well as the address of each current, currently serving council members in these wards, if possible would be what their address stuck on the map. So we can do that. So that's, that's something that I think we should start with because it'll give us an idea of really what we have to do. Speaker 2 00:18:36 I mean, the constantly my, my general thinking in terms of the concept areas to the extent possible inconvenience or change, I need more people that is necessary in terms of moving people from one word to another word or moving people from one election district to another election district. So what makes me get an idea of where we're going with it? And then the third piece, the third comment I have is how are we going to do the actual work of this? And there it's, I'm happy to have some, some thoughts with Remington and verdict, but it is our part of our job. I mean, if they'd get different, cause there could be not exactly the infinite number of different scenarios, but many different scenarios. So if we have the information, perhaps there can be working groups that relate to each of the towns, it could be an in person, maybe a Republican commissioner or a democratic commissioner, a municipal clerk. I need staff necessary to at least get some work in, you know, get some feel for what we're, what we want to do or what are the possibilities. Those are my comments. Are there any responses on that with the lots of Speaker 4 00:19:57 Kevin, if you're attempting to speak, I didn't mute you because you had a turn signal on. Oh, I apologize. Yeah. That's sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Thank you from you to me. Yes. The work commission. I can, we can provide the requested data and information in a map form per commissioner, Katz's comments. And I, I can occur with working groups or input from, from the, with that institutional knowledge that can be brought to the table. We have no problem with that. We can produce through that material, the commissioner Katz outlined for those working groups. So we can definitely accommodate that. Speaker 5 00:20:47 I have a question for Kevin. This is Debbie from south Amboy, I think. Do you, you currently handle most of the boarding services for the other municipalities, right? I think we're the only ones that use a different engineering service for that, is that correct? Speaker 4 00:21:06 We, we, we provide the service to many municipalities in many counties. That is correct. There are also, if I, if I may, we're also a sub to no way who was retained by the division of elections for the SVRs voter registration system. So any information or adopted certified ward boundaries and consequent election boundaries would then be provided as a digital deliverable in the shape file required to plug into the SVRs system. And we are that vendor to, to do that as well. So yeah. Soup to nuts if you will. But yes, we, we represent many towns in many counties. Speaker 5 00:21:49 So for the, if you're, if you, since you don't represent south Amboy, would you still have the ability to provide us with our war maps with population per block? Speaker 4 00:22:01 We can't, we, we, we have performed this service for, in other counties for other towns where we are not the named engineer, but we have provided that service. And we can, if, if someone were to use another consultant, we would still need to be involved as Bob Giles indicated on his, on, on call meeting. I think it was like two weeks ago where the data needs to be formatted in such a way that it will, will plug into the SVRs system. And we are that vendor to do that. But no, Speaker 5 00:22:36 I'm happy to use you. I just wanted to make sure that you had the ability to do that for us since, since we currently aren't using it, if you do, that's great. I've worked with you and other cabinets many times. Yeah. Speaker 4 00:22:46 We actually can do that. And, and we've, we've done another case, so yeah, but we'd be more than happy to do to, to help you with your, your word issues. Speaker 5 00:22:56 And then for our county, we're pretty, I think we're going to be able to make some pretty simple changes. If I have the data on that map, I can just present it to whoever you want. The numbers that I think we can shift in the, and the lines, is there much more that's going to be needed with that? Or is that pretty much, if it's an awkward on that work, it doesn't shift my council, my council people are still fine in those districts. And I think that should be all that you need, correct. Speaker 4 00:23:26 That, that should be typically the, the three things that I asked for are your current and potential polling places, the location of your current elected officials for reference purposes, to just to be aware of where they are. Because again, we want to minimize the impact. If it's not broken, don't break it if you will. But at the same point, I follow the statutes to the letter and under title 40, a ward boundary needs to be of a compact and contiguous shape. If you will needs to be bounded by a natural or manmade feature, a roadway, a railroad, a water body, something you can see in the field can not be an arbitrary line as well as areas of potential growth that you've experienced, especially since the last census. And that's more for title 19, because any impacts that happen to the wars will consequently impact election districts. Speaker 4 00:24:26 But for the purposes of this 30 day calendar, those pieces of information, what would be critical because one thing to look at the census block data, and I'll tell you that data has really been cleaned up and refined over the decades where we can get down to the city block level with population reallocated population, but it's more than just moving numbers to make them match the mean that we're striving for that fair balance. I'll give you a, for instance, I have worked or inherited mapping from someone that does not follow the statutes and says, oh, we need to move 200 people. I'll grab census block 1 0, 0 1. It has a 202 moved over problem solved what you just moved them across the highway. And you created a hardship for them to navigate within their now new ward boundary to get to a polling place or, or the like, or there was a 34 trestle that divided them, which is why they were on the other side to begin with. And, and there's a reason why it needs to be left alone. We look at all that demographic and geography, which is required by the statute and that's what we'll follow. So in addition to population numbers, we also look at that geography, the topography tax map information to, to, to reduce the impact as much as possible and keep the moves as simple as possible. So if anybody has a scenario or has suggestions, we'll confirm that it checks all the boxes under the statutes, if you will. And when will Speaker 5 00:26:04 We be in receipt of that black Speaker 4 00:26:06 Leader next, Nick is my associates on the line. We actually had that parsed out for Middlesex county. Now, once the word's given, I guess I would, I would say Tom should be our, our, my contact. So we'll disseminate everything for Tom, if that's okay, I can get it to him as early as this afternoon or tomorrow morning, Speaker 5 00:26:29 Because with the holidays, it's going to be a little bit referred to get people in for those discussions. So that would be, Speaker 4 00:26:36 I been all over the state of New Jersey the last two weeks. I know Speaker 2 00:26:45 I have a question to just thought the pot bring information. So are we agreeing as a group that did the bottom grid information, we'll be going through the board of elections office for knowing a better terminology and that the board of elections office we'll be disseminating that information to the word commissioners. That'd be great other rewarding condition. Speaker 4 00:27:06 That was my recommendation, but that's totally up to the commissioners. I just found in my experience when a single point of contact that the disseminate, it makes it a much cleaner Speaker 2 00:27:16 And you guys disagree well. I just want to make sure that it's not, it's typed up the bill, loosey goosey information being thrown out there and to be candid, I don't, each town may not want, like south Amway may not want that's mine, but all that information that goes out to any of the municipality PCC warning commission on any information. See, Speaker 4 00:27:42 Agreed. Speaker 2 00:27:44 And, Speaker 4 00:27:46 And also if I may interject, I would keep it at the board commission clerk level. I would not share with the public until it's formally adopted by the word commissioners and signed. So under statutory submission, where all parties, secretary of state, the board, the clerks all would get their official copy. Then you're good. For another 10 years, I would not. I would entertain input potentially as a working group from, from your public, but I would not share data until it's official. Just speaking from experience, Speaker 2 00:28:19 Excuse me. I believe that their prior public session, in terms of discussing, given central each municipality allows the public to put input, to comment on them, comment on it. They have to be up to see it. Speaker 4 00:28:32 No, no, absolutely. But in terms of, and that would be at a, at a advertised meeting where they would come and entertain it and work it out. But, but like, I wouldn't let them take it home until it's all done is, is, is what I was stating, but absolutely in a public portion, you know, that's, that's scheduled and, and advertise. Absolutely. No, that, that, that's not what I was referring to. Like I had, I was at a commission, a work commissioner meeting last night and the public wanted to take all the sample maps home with them. And, and that, that Tom Lynch's counterpart said, no, not until we have the public, the public meeting portion, you know, they, they didn't want to get that data out. So I just found in my experience that that seems to work best. It's, it's, it's still transparent, but it's not meant to not be transparent if, if I'm making sense. Speaker 2 00:29:30 My last question would be on the maps. I just curious curiosity, say the maps that are using come from what source Speaker 4 00:29:41 We're using maps that originated from the federal census and then where we reallocated by the state of New Jersey division of elections. That's the source of the data that we're using, including the maps. Speaker 2 00:29:54 So none of the maps you're using, I just want to make sure I prefer again for transparency is coming from any of the, in our case, Middlesex county planning department or anything like that, would that be correct Speaker 4 00:30:09 That right? Well, you're, it's, it's funny. You say that when the data was disseminated in September and then re updated on September 23rd, it actually was pushed out as a statewide coverage to all the county planning departments. However, they had a non reallocated data. It since has been readjusted, re updated for that reallocation portion. And then that was then in turn, pushed out by the division of elections, Speaker 2 00:30:39 But the reallocated data is in your hands, not in the county planning board pans. Would that be correct? Speaker 4 00:30:48 I know I have it. I can't speak for the county planning departments they may have since received it. I do know the, the first round was disseminated through the county planning departments. Speaker 2 00:31:00 All our information is coming from you, our engineer enough from the county planning. What would that be correct Speaker 4 00:31:07 At this time? That would be correct. Speaker 2 00:31:09 Okay. Thank you. That's good. Okay. Thank you. Speaker 6 00:31:15 Yes, Madam chair, if you wouldn't mind, I just wanted to ask a quick question. I'm a little bit of a piggyback onto Debbie from south Amboy Montereau as well does not use them to Merdock. So just to be clear, I don't have to advise my municipal engineer of anything that I might need from him, because like you just said to commissioner Frankel that you'll be getting the maps from the census data, correct. Speaker 4 00:31:40 We're going to begin the population census block data from, from the division. And we have that. I will tell you getting back to the three items I was looking for, which would again, be pulling places or location of officials, as well as potential growth being the clerks. You guys are the boots on the ground. If you will, and have that institutional knowledge may want to reach out to your local engineers for, for any map updates, as far as growth expansion, new streets, that type of thing, to be aware of, just to confirm what I had. So I would say you could use your, your, your in-house or local engineers for that type of information that would be requested. But beyond that, no, we're, we're fine. As far as the other data is concerned, Speaker 6 00:32:27 If at all possible, will you be, could you send us like an email telling us exactly what you would need so we can make sure that we get it from our local engineer. I mean, helping him out, building approvals that are on the, you know, I haven't been, I haven't been started, but we see potential growth. Okay. Speaker 4 00:32:45 Right, right. We, we would weigh that to, to, to sort of not leave any stone unturned, but absolutely we can pen an email to, and again, if it's okay, I would copy all the commissioners on that navigate through Tom. Speaker 6 00:32:59 Yeah, definitely. And then my last question, which is probably still for you as well. I know we have the meetings that are scheduled in January, but with all of this backend mapping and approvals, will there be workshop meetings that the commissioners will need to be attending as well? Just so we know our calendar for the next month. Speaker 4 00:33:18 Yeah. And I would defer to Tom for that too, to set those, but what I can tell you and did you answer your question? Yes. But I can tell you, and I know there's a big two big holidays coming up, but I can tell you, other counties are utilizing technology via zoom and teams like we're doing today. We can produce these scenarios as a PDF map for, for discussion purposes, meaning the workshops can be virtual. I know that question was posed to Bob Giles and the division of elections. And he did not. He did not say that was not acceptable. In other words, whatever you got to do, basically given the short notice to, to get this done. And unfortunately, even with the, even with the re-published promulgated census data for New Jersey, which was September 23rd off the record on the record, I wished that the division would have had had their call earlier than November 30th because the three-month clock was still taking, which, which expires the 23rd of next week. So you're, you're within compliance of the three months to have the word commission convened what you did now, after today, we have the 30 days. So I would say utilize virtual meetings. We can accommodate that to keep the process moving. Speaker 5 00:34:43 One more question. In, in terms of you wanting to look at potential growth areas, we can, we have several big redevelopment projects that the data is not from this census datas. And so will not be included in this rewarding, why are we, why are we trying to adjust? We can adjust to a thing that doesn't exist in the day, Speaker 4 00:35:10 Right? At one. And again, all of those three items that I've mentioned, the top two would be the location of officials and current and potential polling places. The, the, the third least prioritized, what item would be that potential growth areas since the last census. I mainly want everybody to be aware of that because that will come into play with regard to election. That might be impacted by the ward lines moving. Speaker 5 00:35:42 But again, that won't be, excuse me, that's not going to be till the next census. I, our data will not be in there until the next census. Right. Speaker 4 00:35:52 And you know, wouldn't be there until the next census. And our first priority obviously is the wards, which is due in 30 days. However, that's something that you, you may want to be aware of when it comes to looking at the election districts impacted by the wards under title 19. But again, that's not doing January. You don't have to worry about that. So into the summer, but that, and that's why that's the third party. But again, I, I want to say now, because if we had, if in three months, you're like, well, why didn't you mention that back in December? That's why I'm throwing it out there now. But again, the first two or are the priority, and I'm going to put this in an email to all the commissioners, but I just wanted to float it out there because that is something that we do utilize more under the title 19 election districts impacted after we first take care of the awards. Speaker 1 00:36:45 Okay, Melissa, what you would like to say something. Speaker 5 00:36:52 Yeah. I just wanted to remind everybody that some of us had different calling locations due to COVID. So I'm going to send Tom, I'll send you my previous pre COVID list of polling locations, as well as my current list or what we utilize in the last general election, as well as the ward council members. And then you will send that where you need to send that. Correct. Speaker 4 00:37:18 I, I will use, I will use that as a matter of fact, I I've been hearing that from, from various counties where, because of COVID they had polling places that were, were, were shut down or not used, but one to bring back or consider bringing back when things ever, when we stopped wearing masks, if you will. But yes. What w what, I've, what I've been doing. And Nick and I have been doing is we put on your current polling places, and then we'll put, you know, past or alternate polling locations, just so we're aware, because when it comes to the election districts, we want to know where they are. If they're within the election district, within a thousand feet of the perimeter, again, those are things that we wanna, we wanna kind of have kind of have under, under our belt, if you will going forward, just to be aware. So, yes, please send all of that, especially if, if you're considering reopening those, but you're not alone, that's statewide pre-programmed. But dealing with that, Speaker 1 00:38:22 Any further comments in the ward commissioners, Speaker 2 00:38:36 Again, we want to make sure it public, I didn't put in everything. Are we going to have certain time limits to public comments and then come back for, like we do in our regular word relation meetings with a second bite of the apple when necessary, Speaker 1 00:38:56 I'm going to talk to any public comments or any members of the public have any comments to make. This would be their time. Speaker 2 00:39:03 Well, that's, that's, that's not what, I'm sorry. That's not what I'm, I'm sorry. I'm still asking you for commissioners is as reward commissioners for comments are concerned. I want to have comments from the public, but you know, our board of election meetings, we had have certain time limits that we have for a comment. And then for a second comment, are we going to Institute that in our, in our rewarding public meetings Speaker 1 00:39:35 Covered it? I don't know if there's anything in the statute. I haven't looked at it. I'm sorry. I would think we would stay with our general overall speaking policy. That makes, Speaker 2 00:39:52 I guess, I guess the question is it might match with the other commissioners. I think in most of the public comments, we have a surgeon who was certainly, so Speaker 0 00:40:04 If you wanted it to make a motion that, and have the commissioners adopt, that that would be, that would be your perfect, Speaker 1 00:40:12 I'm sorry. There's multiple people speaking. So I only got the last half of that. Speaker 2 00:40:22 Does everybody live? Can everybody, let me ask a question and everybody hear what I'm saying right now Speaker 0 00:40:28 And actually should be starting. We, I frankly didn't think of it because it's a newly formed commission for rules. You would have to pick a motion and an app to be adopted by the board for the purpose of a no for debate rules or common rules going forward. Speaker 2 00:40:45 So for her, for debate rules and for conversation, and again, this was only because of a lot of us says municipalities Institute, these rules, I like to Institute a five minute time limit for conversation of individuals for public comment and would have no problem if everyone has done from the public, have the person come back right on call this second bite of the three minute comment. And that's my motion. Speaker 1 00:41:26 All those in favor, say, aye. Aye, aye. Speaker 0 00:41:32 Carries limited public competent to be able to be limited as per commissioner Frankel's instructions. Yes. Do we know if there are any public members that are participating right now, even if they haven't identified themselves only period, divided by default, my parties return, and I'm not sure if they're listening. John, Speaker 7 00:42:09 My name's Nina Jack notes. I'm from the public. I was just informed about this meeting. I'm from old bridge board six. Speaker 0 00:42:16 Okay. I mean, John, to your question, there are members I believe of the public participating sometimes a little hard because they might call in and I might just see a phone number as opposed to a name, but I do believe there they're members of the public present. And I believe the next session in which the showroom is going to open up is for public comment. And I hope that the chairwoman out in the site, if they're members of the public that wish to speak, please don't wait. I mean, if you're on the phone, please unmute yourself by hitting star six, identify yourself. And, and then the town of which you reside in, please provide the comment. Speaker 7 00:43:09 Hello? Can you hear Speaker 0 00:43:10 Me? Speaker 7 00:43:14 Yeah. I just found out about this meeting. So I'm unfortunately into the meeting. My name's Nina Jackiewicz. I live at 2 0 3 west based on road, all through to New Jersey around the corner from the Henry family that said, I, from whatever you're talking about, real pink polling stations would be fabulous as far as well. I don't see anybody else on the meeting from all brewers. Is that correct? I don't see anybody. Speaker 0 00:43:41 The, the, the, the clerk, a fertile bridge is participating Speaker 7 00:43:45 Gabrielle. Okay. I didn't see her name here. That's why I apologize. Well, we hadn't this one. Cause she can confirm that there was at least one station closed and the third word, which was in the heart of the apartment complexes. And it would be really important that it gets reopened because it clearly effected the access for people who don't have cars. And I hope that this, this committee would consider reopening it and making sure that this, this allows for the full engagement and participation of all the voters, registered voters of Aldridge, of course, you know, and of course anybody and everywhere. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:44:28 And thank you for your comment. I think that the, your, your comment while all value is, is best directed to Gabby and the old bridge clerk's office, as well as the board of elections. This, this committee's purview is more the reward lines within old bridge and not so much polling locations led to your, your comment as well received. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:44:54 Okay. Speaker 0 00:44:55 Any other members of the public wish to speak or the chair Speaker 1 00:45:22 It's rewarding? I'm motion to adjourn. good afternoon.