Transcript for Piscataway Council meeting on November 9 2023
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Speaker 0 00:00:05 I'd like to call a council meeting to order. Adam can notice of this meeting has been provided as required under chapter 2 31 PO 1 9 7 5, specifying the time, date, location, login and dial information, and to the extent known the agenda by posting a copy of the notice on a municipal building municipal court and two municipal library bulletin boards municipal website, providing a copy to the official newspapers of the Township and by filing a copy in the office of the Township clerk in accordance with the certification by the clerk, which will be entered into the minutes. In order to ensure a clear recording of the meeting can be made and that all parties are heard in an organized fashion. All members of the public that are particip remotely will be muted during the meeting. The Township will provide for public comment periods for both remote and in-person. Speaker 0 00:00:54 Attendees. If a member of the public wishes to speak during any public comment portion for remote attendees, please raise your hand. This can be done either through Zoom app or by pressing star nine on your phone. When it's your turn to speak, you'll receive a prompt to request to unmute. Please click on the prompt, press star six on your phone to unmute and begin making your comments. All members of the public will have three minutes to speak and it should ask any and all questions that they may have during that period. At the conclusion of your three minutes remote attendees will be muted again in-person. Attendees will also receive three minutes to ask any and all questions and may then take a seat at which time the council or administration will respond as necessary. Should you have any further comments or questions, that Township Council is always available by email and phone, and you can always call the mayor's office during normal operating hours. Each member of the public should only have one opportunity to speak during each public portion. As the technology does not allow us to know If there are multiple callers on any individual phone line or login user account, we ask that if you wish to speak, that you log in or dial in separately so that we can recognize you as a separate individual seat. Did you please state the role? Speaker 1 00:02:13 Councilwoman Cahill Councilwoman Carmichael. Here. Councilman Espinosa. Here. Councilwoman Lombardi. Here. Councilman Rouse. Councilman Shah. Here. Council President RN Speaker 0 00:02:32 Here please stand for the flags loop. Speaker 1 00:02:38 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Speaker 0 00:02:58 Comment from administration or council regarding adjournment of any matters on the agenda. Speaker 1 00:03:04 None at this time. Speaker 0 00:03:06 Okay, item number six, open to the public comments regarding item number 13 consent agenda items for remote attendees. If you wish to speak at this time, please raise your hand either on Zoom app or by phone by pressing star nine. When it's your turn to speak, you'll receive or hear or request to unmute yourself. Please click the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute yourself at that time. Please state your name and address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. The council administration will respond if necessary. After you have completed any comments or questions. Speaker 1 00:03:39 Council president, I'm asking the first remote attendee to unmute themselves. Speaker 3 00:03:46 Hi, my name is Brian Rec 1247 Brookside Road. I had questions on aa, what corrective action plan is this and then also on the, I lost which number it was, but referring a couple lots for redevelopment. Has that been, have you considered going through the New Jersey Green Acres plan to preserve that open space instead of redeveloping it? That was it. Thanks. Speaker 4 00:04:18 Yeah, the corrective, well the first one y'all take the corrective action plan. The corrective action plan is for the 2 20 22 audit and this, and in our case, there are no corrective actions needed, so our corrective action plan essentially is none, but we still have to approve a resolution confirming that. And then in terms of the, the redevelopment, their private properties, the commercial properties, you know, there's only so many funds that have to be taxpayer funds. I'm sure the Mayor would, you know, will state is that there's, there's probably significant taxpayer funds. Green Acres doesn't give you a hundred percent of the funds. So Speaker 5 00:04:57 I think part of the problem, there's a misconception out there with the progressives that they wanna buy up every commercial property and take it off the tax rolls and have high taxes in the sound. I, I philosophically disagree with that notion. By the way, we have 28 municipal parks in this town and on top of the county and on top of the Rutgers preserve. Speaker 3 00:05:21 Okay and that matter, Speaker 1 00:05:23 Council president, there are no other individuals to remotely with their hand raised. Speaker 0 00:05:27 Close the remote portion for in-person attendees, if you wish to speak at this time, please come to the podium and state your name and address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. You may then take a seat after completion of your comments or questions and the council administration will respond if necessary. This is for contention. Agenda item number 13, Speaker 6 00:05:50 My name is Gusta SI live at 58. Curtis, let go of the button. Now is this a control mechanism here? I'm all in a button down. Hello? Oh, the first item is H it talk about oil roasting. What are you going to do with all the storm elected in all our storm drains? When was the last time you cleaned them out? Mayor, if Speaker 5 00:06:33 I may, counselor. This is, he's asking H, this is a return of a Speaker 6 00:06:37 A bond. Those storm drains are falling apart. Ja, Speaker 5 00:06:40 It which is a single family. Speaker 6 00:06:41 There's engineers walking around repairing some of them this and they don't look across the street to see. Now Council Speaker 5 00:06:47 P, this has nothing. Speaker 6 00:06:47 What other damages there? Speaker 0 00:06:51 That's not a concession Speaker 6 00:06:52 Denial. It is. It's part of this year. The other thing is the veterans, does that mean that a hundred percent disabled veteran will collect 52 years of refund taxes? How much refund do I get? What a hundred percent disability the last 52 years? I think that, Speaker 7 00:07:31 Hi, I just have few questions lately. I'm just seeing line items and I'm sure you heard I've been there, which includes not to exceed. So the question that I have is usually any project that gets started, they would start with some estimation that this is the real cost. We state kind of putting a structure together, which just says not to exceed this if there is a deficit or surplus, like how would the public know what is the real cost? Excuse me sir. Excuse Speaker 0 00:08:00 Me. Patti, this is item number for item number 13. Consent items only. Is Speaker 8 00:08:04 It re regarding one of the consent agenda items? Speaker 7 00:08:08 It is. Okay, so number A, just Speaker 8 00:08:11 Refer to that. Yeah, sure. So we know what you're, what you're referring to. Sure. Thank you Speaker 7 00:08:14 So much. It's number eight not to exceed 70,000. Then you have SHI not to exceed 126,000. Then you have employee assistance not to exceed, which is E number N not to exceed 20,000 not to exceed again, s not to exceed 195,000. So in a sense you're putting a cap, but the, but the general public doesn't even know what the real cost is. So I don't know how this budgeting process works because in standard project management it starts with an estimate and somebody provides that estimate and based on that, either the new loans are created or new structures are created. So I don't know how this finance works. Thank you. Speaker 9 00:09:00 So that's, that's exactly how it works. So we got these prices. State law requires us to write it up that way, not to exceed that amount. So you could look at the quotes and that's what the quotes are or the bids and then if it goes up or down, it's dealt with afterwards when a project's closed out with the change order. So sometimes you'll see if change order voted on, sometimes it drops the cost of the project and sometimes it increases the cost of the project and that's, that's all follows state purchasing law. Speaker 10 00:09:31 Okay. Speaker 9 00:09:34 Yes. It's bid out when they, when people bid it, they bid individual line items. So road project for instance may have 500 line items, materials, whatever they're bidding out goes into a separate line item. Speaker 7 00:09:46 I to see details of this vehicle. Find it. Speaker 9 00:09:52 Yeah, you, you know, you know the process for Oprah very well. You know it so you can Oprah. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:10:08 Thank Speaker 10 00:10:08 You. Okay, Speaker 0 00:10:10 I'm gonna close the in-person portion. Item number seven, ordinance on a second. Reading Callon and Blakewood Avenue redevelopment plan. This is also open to the public resolution adopting ordinance. Mr. Cedar, do you please read the ordinance, Speaker 1 00:10:22 Be it resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled an ordinance adopting a redevelopment plan for block 3 4 0 1 lots, 12.0 2, 43 0.0 1, 47 0.01 block 3 4 0 2 lot 13 block 3, 4 0 3 lots, 1.01, 2.01 5.01 and 72.01 and block 34.0, I'm sorry, block 34 0 4 lots, 29.0 1, 45 0.0 1, 47 0.0 1, 56 0.0 1, 59 0.0 1, 62 0.0 1, 66 0.01 and 71.01 and also including portions of the Clawson Street, Brook Avenue and Field Avenue Rights of way Clawson Street and Bayland Avenue as shown on the tax map of the Township of Piscataway was introduced on the third day of October, 2023 and had passed the first reading and was published on the eighth day of October, 2023. Now therefore be it resolved that the opposite ordinance having had a second reading on November 9th, 2023 be adopted past and after passage be published together with a notice of the date of passenger approval in the official newspaper, be it further resolved that this ordinance shall be assigned number 2023 dash two eight. Speaker 0 00:11:39 Okay, this is open to the public for remote attendees. If you wish to speak at this time, please raise your hand either on Zoom app or by phone by pressing star nine. When it's your turn to speak, you'll receive or hear or request to unmute yourself. Please click the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute yourself at that time, please state your name and address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. The council or administration will respond if necessary. After you have completed any comments or questions. Speaker 1 00:12:09 Council president, there are no remote attendees with their hand raised regarding this agenda item, Speaker 0 00:12:14 I'm gonna close the remote portion for in-person. Attendees, if you wish to speak at this time, please come to the podium, state your name and address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. You may take a seat after completion of your comments or questions and the council administration will respond if necessary. This is for the ordinance on a second reading item number seven. I see none. I'm gonna close the in-person portion. Do I have a motion? Speaker 2 00:12:42 Motion? Speaker 0 00:12:44 Do I have a second? Second I proceed. Proceed. You please take the call. Speaker 1 00:12:49 Councilwoman Carmichael. Speaker 2 00:12:52 Yes. Speaker 1 00:12:53 Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Speaker 2 00:13:00 Yes. Speaker 1 00:13:01 Council President Ern? Speaker 0 00:13:03 Yes. Item passes on the second reading item number eight, ordinance on a second reading authorizing 88 Centennial Avenue Amended redevelopment plan. This is also open to the public resolution adopting ordinance. Mr. Seater, would you please read the ordinance Speaker 1 00:13:16 Be resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled an ordinance amending Ordinance adopted July 21st, 2020 approving amended redevelopment plan for 88 Centennial Avenue Block 6 7 0 3 Lot eight as shown on the tax map of the Township of Piscataway was introduced on the third day of October, 2023 and had passed the first reading and was published on the eighth day of October, 2023. Now therefore be it resolved that the after ordinance having had a second reading on November 9th, 2023 be adopted pass and after passage be published together with a notice of the date of passenger approval in the official newspaper, be it further resolved that this ordinance shall be assigned number 2023 dash 29 Speaker 0 00:14:01 If for remote attendees, if you wish to speak at this time, please raise your hand either on Zoom app or by pressing star nine. When it's your turn to speak, you receive or hear or request to unmute yourself. Please click the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute yourself at that time, please state your name, your and your address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. The council administration will respond if necessary. If you have completed any comments or questions. Speaker 1 00:14:30 Council president, there are no remote attendees with their hand raised regarding this agenda item, Speaker 0 00:14:35 I'm gonna close the remote portion for in-person. Attendees, if you wish to speak at this time, please come to the podium, state your name and address in those you have three minutes in which to make your comments. You may take a seat at the completion of your comments or questions and the council administration will respond if necessary. This is for item number eight. I'm gonna close the in-person portion. We have a motion. Speaker 1 00:15:04 Motion. Speaker 0 00:15:05 We have a second. Speaker 12 00:15:06 Second Shah Speaker 0 00:15:09 Ms. You please state the role. Speaker 1 00:15:11 Councilwoman Carmichael. Yes. Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Speaker 11 00:15:19 Yes. Speaker 1 00:15:21 Council President Ern? Speaker 0 00:15:23 Yes. Item passes on a second reading item number nine. First reading, amending and supplementing Chapter seven, traffic section 40, control for the movement and parking of traffic on public and private property to assist Title 39 jurisdiction on hundred Springfield Avenue. It's a resolution adopting ordinance. Miss City, did you please read the ordinance Speaker 1 00:15:43 Be resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Ordinance to amend and supplement the revised general ordinances of the Township of Piscataway, county of Middlesex, state of New Jersey. Amending chapter seven traffic section 40 control for the movement and the parking of traffic on public and private property to assert Title 39 jurisdiction on 100 Springfield Avenue B and is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper and that a second reading of public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane, Piscataway, New Jersey as well as by remote meeting format on the 28th day of November, 2023. Be it further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be made, I'm sorry, posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township clerk for any interested member of the public. Speaker 11 00:16:37 The complexity Speaker 0 00:16:38 Do I have a motion? Speaker 11 00:16:42 Multiple motion. Speaker 0 00:16:46 I have a second. Speaker 11 00:16:47 Second Speaker 0 00:16:49 Proceeded please take the role. Speaker 1 00:16:51 Councilwoman Carmichael. Yes. Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman. Lombardi. Is it Councilman Shaw? Speaker 12 00:17:00 Yes. Speaker 11 00:17:01 Can Speaker 1 00:17:01 You hear me That Council President rn? Speaker 0 00:17:03 Yes. Item passes on the first reading item number 10, ordinance on the first reading amended chapter 21, zoning resolution adopting ordinance Mr. Cedar, you please read the ordinance Speaker 1 00:17:14 Be it resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Ordinance Supplementing Chapter 21, zoning of the revised General Ordinances of the Township of Piscataway, county, of Middlesex, state of New Jersey, be and is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading of public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane Piscataway, New Jersey as well as by remote meeting format on the 19th day of December, 2023. Be it further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township clerk for any interested member of the public. Speaker 0 00:17:59 Thank you. Mr. C, do I have a motion? So let's motion Dennis ahead. I have a second. Speaker 11 00:18:06 Okay. Alright. Sorry about that. Speaker 8 00:18:08 Second Lombardi Speaker 0 00:18:10 Mr. Dacey, did you please take the role? Speaker 1 00:18:12 Councilwoman Carmichael? Yes. Councilman Espinosa. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Speaker 11 00:18:20 Yes. Speaker 1 00:18:21 Council President Ern? Speaker 0 00:18:23 Yes. Item passes on the first reading item number 11, fully funded sewer ordinance First. First reading 2,500,000 various sewer improvements is a resolution adopting ordinance. Mr. Cedar, would you please read the ordinance Speaker 1 00:18:36 Be resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Ordinance Appropriating $2,500,000 from the sewer utility budget capital outlay for various sewer utility improvements in and by the Township of Piscataway in the county of Middlesex New Jersey B is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading and public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane Piscataway, New Jersey, as well as by remote meeting format on the fifth day of December, 2023. Be further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township clerk for any interested member of the public. Speaker 0 00:19:25 Thank you Mr. Seated. Do I have a motion? Speaker 8 00:19:27 Motion Carmichael Kent Lombardi. Speaker 0 00:19:31 Ms. Seated you please take the wall. Speaker 1 00:19:32 Councilwoman Carmichael. Yes. Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Speaker 0 00:19:41 Yes. Speaker 1 00:19:42 Council President Ern? Speaker 0 00:19:44 Yes. Item passes on a first reading item number 12, bottom ordinance on the first reading four million two hundred twenty thousand four million nine hundred thousand various capital improvements. This resolution adopting ordinance. Miss, would you please read the ordinance Speaker 1 00:19:57 Be resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Bond Ordinance providing for various capital improvements in and by the Township of Piscataway in the county of Middlesex, New Jersey, appropriating $4,220,000. Therefore and authorizing the issuance of $4,009,000 bonds or notes of the Township to finance part of the costs thereof B and is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading in public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 H Lane Piscataway, New Jersey, as well as by remote meeting format on the fifth day of December, 2023. Be it further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township clerk for any interested member of the public. Speaker 0 00:20:52 Thank you Mr. Eder. Do I have a motion? Speaker 8 00:20:55 Motion Carmichael? Speaker 0 00:20:57 Do I have a second? Speaker 1 00:20:59 Second. Speaker 0 00:21:01 Msed you please state the role. Speaker 1 00:21:04 Councilman Carmichael? Yes. Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Speaker 8 00:21:10 Yes. Speaker 1 00:21:11 Councilman Shah. Councilman Shah. Yes. Council President rn? Speaker 0 00:21:23 Yes. Item passes on the first reading item number 13. That agenda item for efficiency items have been consolidated conception agenda to be voted on together. The materials of these items have been distributed to the council in advance of the meeting at this time. Are there any items that the council would like removed from a consent agenda item to be discussed or voted on separately? Speaker 8 00:21:44 No, none at this time. Speaker 0 00:21:47 Do I have a motion? Speaker 8 00:21:49 Motion Speaker 0 00:21:50 A second. Speaker 1 00:21:51 Second Speaker 0 00:21:52 City you please state the role. Speaker 1 00:21:55 Councilwoman Carmichael? Speaker 8 00:21:57 Yes. Speaker 1 00:21:58 Councilman Espinosa. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Council President Ern? Speaker 0 00:22:08 Yes. Item passes. Item number 14, discussion on best practices checklist. Any discussion? Speaker 9 00:22:17 It was sent out to all the council members and submitted to the state as required and we did very well on it and had mostly yeses or not not applicable Speaker 5 00:22:30 If I may. The, the ironic part, the state government doesn't abide by none of these either, which is ironic. Speaker 0 00:22:41 Okay. Item number 15, announcements and comments from officials. Councilman Carmichael. Speaker 8 00:22:48 Yes, thank you President. I was just reflecting that two days ago was my one year anniversary of being elected as the Ward three Councilwoman here and just became a little overwhelmed just thinking about it. The years gone by. I've learned a lot, met a lot of constituents and the mayor's got me involved on several wonderful projects in the town and I'm just, I'm happy about the work that we've done in the past year and I can't wait to see what we're gonna do for the next 12 months. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:23:21 Thank you Sharon. Councilman. Spinoza, no comm this week. Thank you Councilman Lombardi. Speaker 8 00:23:29 On behalf of the Mayor and Council, I'd like to o offer to all our Asian Indian community. Happy Ali. And also we had one of our past police chiefs pass away Kevin Harris. So our condolences go out to the Harris family for the loss of our former police chief, Kevin Harris. Speaker 0 00:23:58 Thank you. Michelle Councilman Shaw. Speaker 12 00:24:02 Thank you Mr. Lamar and also all South Asian friends and family. Happy and happy New Year. Thank you. Speaker 0 00:24:15 Thank you Councilman. And I have no comment at this time. Item number 16. Oh this is ms. Very Timothy, do you have, Speaker 5 00:24:27 I just wanna remind everybody, it's Veteran's Day on Saturday and we, we had a very successful Veteran's Day luncheon at the senior center honoring the vets there, so it was great to see a lot of the vets out there. Speaker 0 00:24:41 Thank you Mayor. Council P moving and no comments. Thank you. Okay, item number 16, agenda session for November 21st, 2023. Resolution authorizing budget transfers resolution authorizing award of bid, 2 2 2 24 and two 20 to do oh two five. Screen printing and bordering clothing, promotional products, commercial printing and signage. DOT designing resolution authorizing a award bid 2024 2025. Screen printing embroidery and clothing, motional products, commercial printing and signage concept printing company resolution authorizing acceptance of project and release of Retainage 2020 Road Pro program for curb sidewalks and ADA ramps Discover construction, LLC resolution authorizing as symptom of project and release of Retainage 2021 Road program for curb sidewalks, ADA ramps and discover construction LLC resolution authorizing return of escrow block 1 1 2 0 5 lot 12.0 1 3 97 3 99 Park Avenue, 22 ZB oh six V resolution authorizing sheriff services contract with Middlesex County of Public Health Services January, 2024 through December 31st, 2025 through 20 24, 460 $6,265 and 37 cents and 2025 475,590 and 68 cents. Motion to accept report of clerk's Count October, 2023. Motion to accept the report of division of revenue October, 2023 and receive and enter into minutes disturbance of the month of October, 2023. Speaker 0 00:26:39 Item number 17, open to the public for remote attendees. If you wish to speak at speak at this time, please raise your hand either on Zoom app or by phone by pressing star nine. When it is your turn to speak, you receive or hear or request to unmute yourself. Please click the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute yourself at that time. Please state your name and address and know that you have three minutes in which to make your comments. The council administration will respond if necessary if you have completed any comments or questions. Speaker 1 00:27:06 Council president, I'm asking the first remote attendee to unmute themself. Speaker 3 00:27:12 Hello, Brian Rack again. 1247 Brookside Road Still, I just wanted to correct something from before I was asking about item. Let's see, which one was it? Say Speaker 3 00:27:24 It was item M on the consent agenda, which is a redevelopment plan for two lots that are currently zoned as senior citizen housing and are currently fields with trees and stuff. So I'm not talking about any of the warehouse properties that were on the, that were not under the content agenda. My other question is, how have you been doing on dealing with the comptroller's report where Piscataway was one of nine towns that was, did not have plans to prevent improper sick leave payouts? I saw that article about it was 9 28, so it's been over a month now. It was anything been changed there? That was it. Speaker 4 00:28:04 So that, that article is, is very disingenuous in that the Township, you know, over a year ago the comptroller put out an article or a statement to, to these towns basically saying we were in violation. We had responded accordingly saying that we were in compliance, that we had taken action, we had a, the state, the comptroller's office did not respond to our letter. And then this year then they came back to us and, and put out this article, said that we weren't in compliance. We have taken the position that we are in compliance. We have taken necessary action. We were never in violation though. And you know, this is a, I'm not sure what the agenda of the Cahn comptroller is at this point, but we as the Township are in complete compliance with the law Speaker 9 00:28:57 And we never heard back from 'em after we submitted our last letters a few weeks ago. Speaker 1 00:29:06 Council president, there are no other remote attendees with their hand raised for this agenda item Speaker 0 00:29:11 Close. A more motion for in-person attendee, if you wish to speak at this time, please come to the podium, state your name and address and I'll let you have three minutes in which to make your comments. You may take a seat after completion of your comments or questions and the council administration will respond if necessary. Speaker 6 00:29:28 Justice, that definition escapes me. Do you think any administrative official could gimme a definition or it's property maintenance and its console the police? You think I can get a definition from our chief of police? Where is, how come none of them people are here? They can get a definition from our prosecutor. How about our injustice of the peace lost, lost Piscataway is hurting and you don't know it. You don't even visit your districts, you don't see what's going on block to block. You don't see how many potholes you ran over. Not you, not the police justice. The definition escapes me big time. Where is justice here Speaker 7 00:31:11 Counsel? I come to you today regarding just a general comment that I have and which I felt, I feel lately that the laws that are being passed, specifically administrative laws with mandate, it's injecting negative cost into household in many, many fronts. What is happening now is with mandates and insurance. What's ha it's not benefiting, it is not benefiting household, even in landlord tenant cases. It's not benefiting landlord, it's not benefiting tenant, but it's benefiting insurance companies. And then they are writing laws which they can escape against. So if you read their underwriting laws to their, what they write in their brochures, they're running away from their obligations. So if you are giving them rights in their own contract, the way they are ready written today by the lawyers is they can easily escape without just running away from their obligation. Another thing that I'm observing lately now is what's happening is when I used to go into the cold, and I dunno if this has been happening all over, but this is happening Piscataway, where if you guys are standing up against that flag and saying you are abiding by that constitution in in court system of pisca, the Mr. Speaker 7 00:32:24 Hobie and judge clearly asked pretty much everybody, are they waiving their constitutional right? If the law of the land indicates that you are abide by the constitution, the justice system today represented by informing every constituent who's appearing to the court, it's kind of a coercion that you're waiving your constitutional right. They shouldn't be asking that question. And, and, and, and any defendant or plaintiff shouldn't be waiving any constitutional right. What's happening with this is by waiving their constitutional right, they're extorting more fees, which is again, distorting more budgets. It's creating another additional administrative positions. And I personally, that is infl wealth, where it's creating bogus administrative code and also code enforcement position that's not helping in just recent code enforcement case housing and rent control. On chapter 16, I went to the code and I did not get any satisfactory a, a answer from Hobi. Speaker 7 00:33:19 And again, like when we go to the court, they tell you the laws that husband and wife cannot represent their own case. I mean, is this how we are going to build a justice system today where a husband and wife who are filing joint return and, and a court enforcement comes on, wife name that they can't represent this, this is, this is becoming a mockery of justice system today, which is being practiced and I don't know if it's a statewide problem or it's a Township problem, but lately to be frankly telling you the truth, I'm losing faith in justice system today with all the administrative mandates that you're passing. That's not helping me, my family or it's not even helping any tenants for any capital improvement work that I have to do. I'm getting shortchanged for the laws that are passed. And if you are one the money, then gimme the power, then I can summon you to fix those things when problems are there. Speaker 4 00:34:04 Counsel, I'd ask you to refrain to make any comments. This is a, a current ongoing litigation. Speaker 0 00:34:12 I Speaker 5 00:34:12 Believe it's a existing court case over in municipal court. Speaker 4 00:34:16 The existing municipal court case Speaker 0 00:34:24 See more. I wanna close in-person portion, Speaker 5 00:34:26 If I may. Council president, there was just a comment a few minutes ago about potholes. Just as reiterate, the general public knows that if there's a pothole, please pick up the phone and call Department of Public Works. They're, they've been filling potholes, you know, since, since the paving. Since the paving since the paving crew is finished for the year. Sir, stop being rude, please. Rude. Sir, I'm, I'm trying to give the information out there. You're asking, so maybe you'll listen and you'll understand the process. So now that they're finished paving for the year, the Department of Public Works, they have the hot patch machine out there, so they're fixing potholes that have been put in by the police department and other members of the general, general public out there. So unless we know about it, you know, or see it, that you can't get it filled. They are filling the potholes. Speaker 0 00:35:14 Thank you. Mayor. Do I have a motion to adjourn? Okay, do I have a motion to adjourn? motion to adjourn. Do I have a second? Second I'm shall. All in favor? Aye. Meeting adjourned.