Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on August 15 2024
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Speaker 1 00:00:01 Thank Speaker 0 00:00:01 You. Zoning. Board of Adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the Coer News notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the Coer News and the star ledger. Will the clerk please call the roll? Speaker 1 00:00:19 Mr. Weisman? Speaker 0 00:00:20 Here. Speaker 1 00:00:21 Mr. Patel? Speaker 2 00:00:22 Here. Speaker 1 00:00:23 Mr. Regio. Mr. Blo? Mr. Heka? Here. Mr. Mitterando? Here. Mr. Here and Chairman Cahill. Here. Speaker 0 00:00:36 Will everyone please stand for a salute to the flag by United States of America Republic One Nation Justice. Justice Kinneally, are there any changes to tonight's agenda? Yes, there are. R The face field application on 1300 West seventh Street is adjourned until September. Laura, do you have an exact date for that? Speaker 1 00:01:14 September 26th and no further notice. And Speaker 0 00:01:16 Will they re-notice or are they, we gonna carry this notice where Speaker 1 00:01:18 It's gonna carry it. Okay. Speaker 0 00:01:19 So anybody here in the face field application, it's gonna be carried to September 26th with no further notice by the applicant. Those are all the changes I'm aware of. Now, Speaker 1 00:01:28 Mr. Kinneally 52 School Street has withdrawn Speaker 0 00:01:32 Oh 52 School Street, Arvin Patel, that they have withdrawn that, so that will not Yes. Speaker 1 00:01:37 Without prejudice. Speaker 0 00:01:38 Okay. Let's move on to item number 5 24 dash zb dash 35 v. Darlene Ber is Darlene Ber present? Speaker 2 00:01:50 Yes, I'm here. Speaker 0 00:01:52 Okay. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Yes. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 2 00:01:57 Yes. Speaker 0 00:01:58 Your name and address please? Speaker 2 00:02:00 2 0 7 Elizabeth Avenue, Piscataway, New Jersey oh 8 8 5 4. Speaker 0 00:02:05 Thank you. Could you explain to the board why you're here? Speaker 2 00:02:09 I'm here because we had wanted to put a shed on the property. We've always had one here since purchased the house. Never. And we're just replacing it. Yeah. We really wanted to replace it because the other, the metal one just rotted and the other one, the wooden one was just falling apart. Animals were attacking it and so we thought if we put something up a little more sturdy and I could put all of the things for my, you know, well, for gardening and mowing the lawn, et cetera, and have a neat place. Speaker 0 00:02:54 Understood. That's okay. That's a good, that's a good option. It's a good reason. Jonathan, do you have any questions or any issues with this? Speaker 3 00:03:03 No, I don't. Mr. Chairman, as we mentioned in the report, it's a very minor overage of the coverage from the principal building and there's no need for any other variances. Speaker 0 00:03:16 Gotcha. Okay. Any other questions or concerns from anyone else on the board? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions or comments about this application? I believe there was a gentleman who Yes. Earlier. Yes. Speaker 4 00:03:31 Yes. Could you hear me? Speaker 0 00:03:33 Yes, we can. Okay. I need your name and address, please. Speaker 4 00:03:37 Yes, I'm Ken Byz, B-E-I-T-Z at 2 0 1 Elizabeth Avenue, Piscataway. Of course, I'm right, we're adjacent to the shed and the illegal structures Speaker 0 00:03:48 Of, okay. Before you go ahead and testify, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Speaker 4 00:03:52 Okay. Hold on. My hands up. Speaker 0 00:03:55 Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 4 00:03:58 Yes, sir. Speaker 0 00:03:59 Thank you. Go ahead, sir. Speaker 4 00:04:02 Okay. I read the papers on this and it sounds like the, the board has already made up their mind on everything. And I got really, Speaker 0 00:04:11 Sir, the board has not voted on this matter yet. The board has not heard anything about this matter, so don't say the board has already made up its mind. Speaker 4 00:04:18 Oh, no, please don't, don't take offense. I'm trying to express myself. I I said not nothing to do with the board. I said just by reading the application papers, it sounded, because some of the things that I read here, I'm not gonna get into all this. It's, it basically trivia. However, ordinances are law in town. The reason the, the, this, the so-called, what do we call it? The survey that was submitted, there's no, there's no data on it or nothing. And I was just concerned like, where did this 160 square feet come from when they went a 98, a 96 square foot shed. I was just confused and, and I really didn't know. And I'm like, well, what is this? Like, where is it? I went down to the township and I went over there and I got, I was still confused. I ended up with Mr. Speaker 4 00:05:06 Hoff's office and I showed him some pictures because what I did first, excuse me, they're not of order here, you know, chronological order. I went to the tax office and got something with the actual footage on it. So we're, you know, we're correct with it. I have that here, but you're not allowed to see it. Mr. Hos office has it and the planning board has it. I don't know if you folks could see it or regardless of that, the main structure is 1,364 square feet. That's the house. The garage, which is attached is 588 square feet. It's 28 feet by 21 feet. That's a very big garage. The numbers are the fourth owners of that house. I lived there for, well, I'm 74 and my father built a house in 53. Basically my whole life, we knew all the owners. Speaker 4 00:06:00 I don't recall them having that first shed there. So anyway, I'm backtracking a little, if you add the 1364 and the 5 88, you get 1952. Okay? You got 1952 and they went a 98 square foot shed. I said, okay, I figure all this out. I says, this doesn't add up. So I went out and looked. I said, well, the canopy, which is not on their, on their, what they submitted, and it's not on the tax office. That's a taxable item by the way. You check with Greg at the tax office, it's 120 square feet on the back of the garage with a roof on it. It requires a building permit and inspection and building codes. I didn't know this. I just went back with a simple thing and said, where did you know, where did the footage come from? My issue here with this meeting is the 1.6 increase. Okay. Which I'm getting to. So they want 98 foot, and I wrote it down on, on Mr. Mr. Hofs office. I forgot the name of the departments. I'm trying to find my map here. Ah, you know when you want it, you can't find it. Mr. Speaker 1 00:07:06 Hofsa Construction official. He has nothing to do with the zoning board, sir. Speaker 4 00:07:09 No, I know that it's nothing to do with the zoning. So just, sir, I'm trying to, I'm trying to tell you, I'm, Speaker 0 00:07:15 I'm trying, I'm trying to expedite. There were a lot of applications tonight. Speaker 4 00:07:18 Oh, I'm trying to, I'm trying to do it right here. Here. I get two points, sir. Right now what they want is 2,168 square feet over two illegal structures. You were never permits. Okay. The metal shed, they're talking about was ripped down. Matter of fact, a friend of mine, Michael Toll, took the scrap metal away, and I believe that was with Joe Frank. They never removed that. Mr. Ber, when he built the shed in the back, in the corner, which is still there, I told him, I said, Richard, you have a permit to that. After his expletives, he said he didn't need one. He later built a 120, or excuse me, a a 21 foot by six foot wide, 120 square foot canopy on the back. Anyway, the Hobbs office construction over there, they made it, they just took it down last night. Excuse yesterday, and today they ripped it off the house. Speaker 4 00:08:04 Okay? It's off the house. So, real issue here. Th this whole, this whole thing you have here is void on the face because it doesn't exist. There is no, the exact coverage of this house now is 1,952 square foot and they want to put a shed. Okay? 1952, they can, and they don't even need you folks. They could just go down to town, get a permit and put a 48 square foot shed. No problem. Beautiful. It's all within the law and nobody will be jealous and no, and you'll have to go across the board, the whole town. Okay. It's 48 square foot, day 1 96. Okay? The, the one 20 in the back is gone. It's ripped off. Okay. Now that, that puts them not at a, a a, a 1.6 increase. It puts them at 20.48. Oh, okay. Sir, you round, you Speaker 0 00:08:53 Cut off. I'm gonna cut you off, sir. Our township, our township expert has no problem with this application. Okay? He Speaker 4 00:09:02 Represents township. I'll tell you right up because Skyway a big C and it's not for chiefs. Speaker 0 00:09:07 Okay, that's good. I appreciate it. Everybody knows. Thank you, sir. Normally we give you three minutes to come back and discuss this. I've given you anywhere from six to seven minutes. Thank you. No, Speaker 4 00:09:16 No problem. I, I had you figured out right from day one. Speaker 0 00:09:19 Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Any Laura, anyone else have their hand raised? No, sir. Okay. No. Chairman, we're gonna close the public portion and I'd make a motion to approve this application. Speaker 5 00:09:28 I a second, Speaker 0 00:09:29 Please call a roll. Speaker 1 00:09:30 Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Hmm. Yes. Yes. Sorry, I didn't hear you already. Mr. Mitterando? Speaker 5 00:09:42 I abstain Speaker 1 00:09:43 Mr. Ali? Yes. And Chairman Cahill? Speaker 0 00:09:46 Yes. Ms. Ber, your application's been approved. We'll memorialize it in a written document In our next meeting we'll send a copy of that document to you. Thank you very much, Sara. Appreciate Take care, ma'am. Thanks, you patience. Have a good night everybody. Good night. Thank you. Item number 6 24 dash ZB dash 38 v Akash Shaa. Speaker 5 00:10:07 Yes. Yes, I'm here. Speaker 0 00:10:09 Good evening. Do you, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 5 00:10:15 Yes sir. Speaker 0 00:10:16 Your name and address, please? Speaker 5 00:10:20 18 Marshall. Speaker 0 00:10:25 Thank you. Could you explain to the board why you're here? Speaker 5 00:10:28 I want my house just to protect from, from these deers coming so much, so many deer coming all the time, eating my fruits, vegetables in a garden. And also now we have grandkids coming here for, for their, for their security also and then for the privacy that we can have. Speaker 0 00:10:49 And you understand that if the township ever needs access to that easement, you would be responsible for removing and replacing the fence? Speaker 5 00:10:56 Yes. That that's what, that's what is written here. But at the time of application, I was told that removal township will remove and I have to replace, I have to feedback. I don't know. Speaker 0 00:11:05 You would be responsible for removing it and replacing it? Speaker 5 00:11:09 Yeah. Okay, I understand now. Thank you. I got the letter so I understand that. Speaker 0 00:11:13 Any other issues, Jonathan? Speaker 3 00:11:16 Yeah, we just wanna see a full utility mark out and we're recommending it be placed a little bit inside of the center line of that easement, just 'cause we don't wanna have the footings of the fence interfere with any utilities that might be there. Speaker 0 00:11:30 Is that okay? Mash? Speaker 5 00:11:31 So what, what I have to do now? Speaker 3 00:11:34 So instead of having the fence, instead of having the fence run along the property line, Speaker 5 00:11:40 So I got it, I have to, I have to in five Five foot in No, Speaker 3 00:11:46 Five foot in from the east. The east Speaker 5 00:11:48 Property one? Yeah. Okay. That's, I mean, yeah, I'll, I'll do that. Yeah, that's fine. And I Speaker 3 00:11:53 Make sure I make sure there's no pipes underneath. Speaker 0 00:11:55 Okay. Okay. You're in agreement with that? Yes, sir. Fantastic, thank you. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none? I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? Speaker 1 00:12:08 No. Chairman. Speaker 0 00:12:09 Okay. Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I'll second it. Speaker 1 00:12:15 Everybody. Woohoo. Mr. Weisman? Thank you. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Haka? Speaker 0 00:12:23 Yes. Speaker 1 00:12:23 Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Ley? Yes. And Chairman Cahill? Yes. Speaker 0 00:12:29 Your application has been approved with an amendment that you're gonna move this fence slightly. We'll memorialize this in a written document at our next meeting and send a copy of that to you. Good luck. Okay? Thank you, sir. Good luck, sir. Leave now. I can leave now. Is that a question? I can leave the meeting now, or I have Speaker 1 00:12:48 Sir. Have a good night. Speaker 0 00:12:48 I wanna take my place and I'll gladly leave. No thank you. Thank Speaker 1 00:12:53 You. Number Speaker 0 00:12:54 7 24 dash zb dash 36 v Abdul Shaik. Mohammad. Speaker 6 00:13:00 Hello sir, this is Abdul Shaik Mohammad. I live in five Pire West Street. Piscataway. Speaker 0 00:13:07 Good evening. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Please swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. Speaker 6 00:13:13 I do. Speaker 0 00:13:13 Thank you. Could you explain to the board why you're here? Speaker 6 00:13:16 Yeah. So basically I need to put six feet solid pants because I needed for safety, security, and privacy for my family after little kids. And most of the time they spend outdoor playing. And recently I have the burglary at my home on 7th of July. All my valuable stuff are stolen. So I, that's the reason, that's the main reason why I need to put up the fence so that it acts as a privacy and security for my family because we feel very vulnerable right now. We really need to have a good security so that even my kids can go outside play anytime when they want. And the sidewalks in front of my house, they're not, they're very uneven and they're concrete sidewalks. And if my kids that try to play the right cycle on the sidewalks, they tend to follow because they're very uneven and very old. So at some point, yeah, so that's the main reason we want to set up the fence. And are you looking forward to a decision from your side? Speaker 0 00:14:10 Okay, Mr. Mohamed? No problem. Jonathan, do you have issues with this? Speaker 3 00:14:15 The main, in the main issue that we have is the site triangle at the intersection of Buttonwood and Crestwood. That's why my recommendation was to push the fence back along Buttonwood, just to make sure that there's a clear side triangle. So right now the property line is approximately 10 feet from the edge of the road. I was suggesting that that fence be located 30 feet from the edge of the road, 20 feet from the property line Speaker 0 00:14:44 Maha, Mr. Mohammad, you okay with that? Speaker 6 00:14:47 Can I at least get like 10 feet, if you don't mind at least 10. Because if, if, if you give me like 20 feet, I would be left with very little fenced in area. And that would be like, you know, because mine is a corner lot, I would really not have much space for my kids to play around. And I, I, I mean it would, it would be very squeezed to be very honest. And down the road, I'm also planning to put up a shed in my property and that would also eat up a lot of space. So I would really appreciate if you guys can, you know, please gimme like 10 feet. I would really appreciate that. Speaker 0 00:15:13 Unfortunately, because the fence is proposed in the site triangle, it affects the ability of motorists to see safely. And that's why Piscataway is recommending that it be 20 feet from the property line. It's a safety issue. Mr. Muhammad, I apologize, but you can do those other things with your backyard at different spots other than where it's gonna be, you know, 20 feet. Right? I, I can read the room pretty well and if you are in agreement with the recommendations by my, my expert, I can get you this approval, I'm pretty sure. So depends on Speaker 6 00:15:47 Move forward. Yeah. So just to add one more thing, the button would drive, it's a dead in street. There's not much moving traffic over there. It's very quiet throughout the day. You can also check the layout, sir. So if you can just please gimme some, you know, you know, concession or you know, so that we can definitely go ahead and put up the fence because 20 feet seems to be, you know, very, I mean it would leave us with a very little fence in area. So please say if you, something can be done on this regards, Speaker 0 00:16:20 Mr. Chairman, I'm not sure that while I've been representing this board, we have ever agreed to allow somebody to put a fence into site. Try, yeah. No, I'm not gonna be, it's not gonna be the first time either. You, you, you really must either take time, we can put this application out for another month or so, give you time to talk it over with family, whatnot. But I i I think that the recommendation made by my eng engineering department is going to be a, a deal breaker with getting you this approval. It's, you're on a, you're on a corner property and I apologize, but you purchased the property and for safety purposes for all of Piscataway residents, we, we can't approve that in that site triangle. So Speaker 6 00:17:03 Sir, how about like 15, 15 feet setback? Is, is that doable? Speaker 0 00:17:06 It, I be, I believe Jonathan said 20 feet. Is that right, John? Speaker 3 00:17:10 That's, that's correct. Would it be possible, would the board entertain having the fence be having the fence be at an angle on that corner so that way it stays outside of the side triangle provided that there's landscaping in front of it to make sure that it stays attractive? He can come into the office and we can Speaker 0 00:17:30 Yeah, I'm, I'm all in favor of that. I, I want the applicant happy by that same standard. I want the township to remain safe on that corner lot. So yeah, if, if you want this gentleman to come in and sit with you and, and go over options or alternatives to the, the fencing, I'm, I'm more than happy to entertain that. I'm sure the rest of the board is saying, Speaker 6 00:17:51 So, okay, so, so let's say if I get offline and talk to Mr. Jonathan, no Speaker 0 00:17:56 Worry, would, would, would that tonight? Speaker 6 00:17:59 Yeah. Yeah. So would that be approved on that day or when I come and make the decision when I talk to him? Or does, I mean, would, can, can Speaker 0 00:18:08 We do that conditionally give a conditional approval based on the outcome with Jonathan and Yeah, as long as, as long as we know what the setback is going to be and what the angled part is going to be and I can describe it in a resolution, then we could do it tonight. Okay. That, that makes sense to me. Anyone else on the board have any questions or concerns about what we're trying to do here? No. Okay. Show is the public, Jim. Well, I, I, I need Mr. Rahi to tell me what the setback of the fence is going to be and how many feet are going to be angled. Speaker 3 00:18:49 That will be, that will be measured tomorrow when I have, when I have the equipment to do so. Speaker 0 00:18:55 Okay. So Mr. Chairman, we're gonna have to carry this matter if we can't have that information this evening. Gotcha. Because I can't prepare a resolution if we don't have that on the record, the specific on the, I can appreciate that. Laura, what's the next meeting? We, September 12th MI Mr. Mohammed, September 12th is when we would entertain this application again. Once you and Mr. Mizrahi have figured out how you wanna come to a compromise, Speaker 1 00:19:20 Don't have to re-notice. You don't have again. Speaker 0 00:19:23 Okay, so we're gonna put this off until September 12th. Speaker 6 00:19:26 Alright, thank you so much. Speaker 0 00:19:27 No problem. Okay. Anybody here on the, this application of Abdul Shaik Mohammed? It is being carried to September 12th with no further notice by the applicant. The only notice you're receiving is my announcement here tonight. Okay. Thank you Mr. Mohamed. Thank you. Let's move on to item number eight, which is 24 dash zb dash 34 v Kumar, an and ti Meda. Are the applicants present? Speaker 7 00:19:55 Yes. Speaker 0 00:19:59 And mea? Speaker 7 00:20:01 Yes. Speaker 0 00:20:02 Okay. I I need to swear, I need to swear. Go ahead. I'm Speaker 1 00:20:05 Sorry. We record. Just show that Mr. Blot has joined the meeting. Speaker 0 00:20:09 Thank you, Rodney. Thank you. Rodney, could the applicant's raise their right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 7 00:20:16 Yes. Speaker 0 00:20:18 Thank you. One at a time. Could we have your name and address please? Speaker 8 00:20:22 6 1 6 2 Avenue. Speaker 1 00:20:25 We can hear you. Speaker 8 00:20:31 Plainfield Avenue. Piscataway. Is that better? Speaker 0 00:20:36 Yes. Speaker 7 00:20:37 Alright. Kumar 13, Rosewood Court, New Jersey. Speaker 0 00:20:45 Thank you. Could one of you explain to the, the board what'd like to do here? Speaker 8 00:20:48 So we're currently doing to our at six field set, 36 feet to front. We permit and everything for the landing and the steps, which is going 4.5 feet within the setback. We're, today we're seeking the variance for constructing a roof over that, which is roughly about three and a half feet in the, within the setback. Speaker 0 00:21:24 Jonathan, do you have comments about this side effect Speaker 3 00:21:28 The, the rest of the, the rest of the site's conforming? So this, this is the only variance. We do have a couple of comments and recommendations in the report that I'd like the applicant to agree to, to be conditions of approval pertaining to the site triangle of the intersection with maintenance of landscaping, as well as obtaining permits for new outdoor mechanical equipment and screening the air conditioning and equipment units on the site. Speaker 0 00:21:57 Are you in agreement with that? Speaker 8 00:22:02 Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Speaker 0 00:22:04 Froze. Okay, great. We can move forward now. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone on the public have any questions or comments about this application? Speaker 1 00:22:17 Yes, Alex w Speaker 9 00:22:19 Hi, how you doing? Hi, Alex. Speaker 0 00:22:21 Good evening. I need you, your name and address please. Speaker 9 00:22:24 My name is Alex White and I live at six 14 Plainfield Ave. Speaker 0 00:22:30 Thank you. Could you raise your right hand? Sure. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 9 00:22:35 Yes. Speaker 0 00:22:36 Thank you. Go ahead, Mr. White. Speaker 9 00:22:38 So yeah, so we, we've actually met the, the new neighbors who are moving in. They're very lovely people. We're very excited to, you know, have some more younger people living next to us too. But the only concern we had, it's a big beautiful house they're building and unfortunately it's, it is very close now to my house, which is, you know, I, I can kind of get over that. And my, my house has been grandfathered in. It's kind of closer to the pro, closer to the property line than normal. My only concern and, and hope, and I hope I'm not being irrelevant, but I saw there was something about air conditioning units or, or a, you know, the, I, I guess the outside condenser needed to be fenced in or whatever, but I just, I just wanted to see if it was relevant to know if that was going to be on my side, because if it is, it's basically going to be on my house. And I was just wondering if there was any way to make sure that it would either be on the other side or maybe in the backyard or something. But I mean, it's not complete end of the world, but I just wanted to see if, and I'm sorry if I'm being irrelevant, I'm a first time homeowner, so I'm, I'm just trying to, trying to figure this all out, out, but Speaker 0 00:23:45 No, you're entitled to your concerns. Absolutely. Jonathan, is that, is that something that's relevant? Speaker 3 00:23:50 Can I just clarify with the, the question asker, you live adjacent on the side where the driveway is, correct? Correct. Okay. So there was a, there was an existing air conditioning unit shown on the drawings close to the intersection, so the other side of the house, correct? Yeah. And seeing that equipment is what prompted that comment. So we don't have a plan to be clear, we don't have a plan showing proposed equipment, but that's what caused that comment to be generated. Speaker 9 00:24:22 Okay. But at, but at this point we don't, Speaker 1 00:24:24 We're not sure where, not Mr. White under the law, as long as that air conditioning unit is 10 feet off the property line, it's allowed to be there. If it's any closer than 10 feet, they would have to come back to the board for, for another variance application. Okay. It has to be 10 feet between your pro, the property line that you guys join and where that air conditioning unit starts. Speaker 0 00:24:43 Sure. Speaker 9 00:24:43 Okay. That, that makes total sense. I appreciate it. Speaker 0 00:24:46 Thank you sir. Thank you. Any other members of the public? Speaker 1 00:24:51 No one else Chairman. Speaker 0 00:24:53 Okay. Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I, Speaker 10 00:24:58 Second. Second. Speaker 0 00:24:59 Thank you. Co roll. Speaker 1 00:25:02 Mr. Weisman? Speaker 0 00:25:03 Yes. Speaker 1 00:25:04 Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Blo? Speaker 0 00:25:07 Yes. Speaker 1 00:25:07 Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Rally? Yes. And Chairman Cahill? Yes. Speaker 0 00:25:15 Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and send that document to you. Good luck. Thank you. Have a good night. Good night. Item number 9 24 dash ZB dash 32 v. Andrea and Bertha is the applicant present? Speaker 10 00:25:36 Present. I Speaker 0 00:25:38 Need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 10 00:25:44 Yes, I do. Speaker 0 00:25:45 Can I have your name and address please? Speaker 10 00:25:47 Andre, be four 40 New Market Road, Piscataway, New Jersey. Speaker 0 00:25:51 Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would like to do here? Speaker 10 00:25:55 I'm, I'm looking to do a fire rebuild. I'm doing, I believe I'm asking for 232 square feet out of my variance. I don't know what else I would be required to answer, but that's what I'm looking to do right now. Currently, just, just to remodel, fi, remodel. I'm currently not living in a home. Speaker 0 00:26:23 Mr. In addition, Speaker 1 00:26:24 Chairman, he's also exp he's expanding the house. He's not just doing a Speaker 0 00:26:27 Fire. Redo and expanding. Okay, Jonathan? Okay. Yes. You, you had some issues with the site impact form. Speaker 3 00:26:33 Code code enforcement informed us of a number of violations associated with the property. Some of that was reflected in the site plans were provided such as a second kitchen, the number of bedrooms, and yes, we acknowledge the building coverage as well in that staff report. Speaker 0 00:27:04 Mr. Chairman, we do not usually permit second kitchen. No, I'm, well, well, it's Speaker 10 00:27:09 Not, it's not, it. The, the, the plans that the, the, the architect did, it was supposed to be a butler's pantry and the, the, he put a, it is not a kitchen. I, and I, I believe that what's coming up is a, is a, a question is when I bought the house back in 2006, I got a, a letter from code enforcement said I had, I was rent, I was, it was a bunch of Mexicans living in my property. As you can see, I'm not Mexican. Back then, it was code enforcement official came out. Mr. Johnson came out and did a walkthrough to the house at the time. I showed him who lived in the house at the time, which was my kids who at the time went to Arbor. They were all young kids. It's never been a rooming house. And I, I never had Mexicans living with me. Speaker 10 00:27:56 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm foundational African American. So it was basically slander. And also there was a a a over the years I got to know Mr. Snyder personally because it seems like every time there was something I I I, I'm a car collector, so I have, and I currently, I still have my cars, I have all the cars here to collective cars. They're already register in insured collective plates. They, I was accused of running a car, a used car lot. Mr. Snyder came out multiple times and, and, and, and checked the, the, the insurance policies and the, the plates and made sure the cars was there. There was never any cars for sale on the property. Never any cars on the street. But it just was seem like every, anything that happened, sir, was always something. If, if a neighbor parked their car by some on the street, there was, it was my car, you know, I used to get caught. Mr. Snyder, I had my, my personal office number 'cause he would call me and the police would come out, run plates and find out the car. Wasn't cars even belonged to me. Sir, this has nothing Speaker 0 00:28:57 To do with the second kitchen. Speaker 10 00:29:00 Yeah, it does because Speaker 0 00:29:00 It's what what was, what was told to you in the past and, and other people? Speaker 10 00:29:04 Well, it's in the letter. I, I apologize. It was, it's in a letter. This, it's in the letter that was given that, that would be questions that would be brung up. So I thought I was addressing the letter. So see the pantry, the butler's pantry, sir, because Speaker 12 00:29:17 He, I'm sorry. My name is Leslie Bethe and I'm his wife. Four 40 in. Speaker 0 00:29:21 Okay. I need to swear you in. Ma'am, could you raise your right hand? Yes ma'am. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 12 00:29:27 Yes. Speaker 0 00:29:28 Thank you. Speaker 12 00:29:29 My husband is a chef by trade and that is why he wants, he wanted to add a butler's pantry so he has more space to put all the stuff in the kitchen. That is what it's for. Speaker 10 00:29:41 Yes. It's not an extra, it's not a secondary kitchen. I didn't yeah, an Speaker 12 00:29:45 Extra like room for us to have more space. Speaker 0 00:29:48 There's, there's no, there's no running water in this room. There's no gas are being run or electric? Speaker 10 00:29:54 No, no. Speaker 0 00:29:55 It's just for more space. Speaker 10 00:29:57 Yes. Yes. It's a pantry. It's gotta be a pantry. 'cause I, I make my own bread and, and baking and pastries and stuff, so sure. I, I don't, I'm not looking to do anything illegal. I'm not, you know, I'm not looking to, to rent, rent the property out. Could Speaker 0 00:30:11 Could you describe what you plan to put in the butler's pantry? Speaker 10 00:30:16 Bread maker, coffee station storage, Speaker 12 00:30:23 The equipment like to have, so place separate from the kitchen to have like bigger equipment. We have like a bigger, Speaker 10 00:30:30 I do plan to have a, a prep station in there with a sink. For for Yeah. Like butchering or anything. I don't know if that's part of, you asked me was I gonna have anything in there besides, what was Speaker 0 00:30:43 The question there? There'll be no, will there be any cooking where you would need ventilation? Speaker 10 00:30:47 No. Speaker 0 00:30:48 Okay. And and there'll be no gas running to a, a cooktop or anything like that? No, Speaker 10 00:30:53 No, Speaker 12 00:30:54 No. And there be water. Speaker 0 00:30:57 I don't think water's an issue. Jonathan, would that be an issue? They have Would, they would have like a lop sink or something like that? Speaker 3 00:31:02 I would defer to the building department on that one. My, my concern is on these drawings, and this sounds like it's a miscommunication with the architect on the drawings, the kitchen at picks a refrigerator, a gas, a gas range, and a double sink. So if no, Speaker 0 00:31:20 That's got, that's gotta be taken outta the plan. So hopeful we can't proceed. Speaker 3 00:31:23 I I would, I would like a revised set of drawings just to reflect what the applicant's actually trying to do, which would satisfy that comment. And then our only other comment was to make some architectural revision to bring the footprint back into a, a conforming size. And then finally just to make sure that they follow any code violations. Violations Speaker 0 00:31:47 Are Speaker 3 00:31:48 There, which it sounds like they're on top of already. Speaker 0 00:31:50 Alright. Jim, do we have to have the bethes come with new plans? You, you could certainly make a condition of approval that they provide revised plans showing that the, the only items in the butler's pantry are what they've described here tonight and not what's on the architectural plans. I believe one of the concerns was that they bring the building coverage down closer to conformity and we need some testimony on that. Okay. So we're okay? Speaker 10 00:32:20 Yes. Speaker 0 00:32:21 Okay. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none Speaker 10 00:32:29 Now when you say, sorry, sorry. No. Okay. The, the building conformity, what does he mean when he says that Speaker 0 00:32:36 The, the, the building coverage, it is limited to 20%. You're currently proposing 22.3%, which is a rather significant increase and a rather significant variance. Is there something you can do to reduce that number closer to the 20% maximum? Speaker 10 00:32:56 So the 22 part, I'm asking for what, 232 square feet? Speaker 0 00:33:02 That correct? You're asking 22.3% and 20% is the limit. Speaker 1 00:33:08 But we can get the architecture. Speaker 0 00:33:10 You have to get with the architect and revise the, the plans with the quote kitchen, no refrigerator, no gas cooktop. The sink is fine as far as I'm concerned. And also you have to re, he has to reduce the footprint to, to more conformity it down to the 20 as opposed to where you are at, at 22 point. Was it eight Jim? 22 point percent. So, so, and this is not this kind of thing that we can do as a conditional approval, Mr. Chairman, we would need those numbers in front of us before we vote. Gotcha. Yeah, you're gonna meet, you're gonna have to meet with your architect and address those two issues and then we'll, we'll revisit this application at a future date. Wow. Next month, September. Speaker 1 00:33:55 Okay. Speaker 0 00:33:55 Okay. Okay. So anybody here on the birthday application? It is going to be carried until September. I'm sorry, the date? Speaker 1 00:34:04 Do you want to do the 12th? Do you guys think you'd be ready or you wanna do we have a second one in September, which is 26th I believe. When as possible, because we are trying, we'll do the 12th. Speaker 10 00:34:14 We're in a rental so we don't have the Yeah, no, we don't have the resource be the resources in the funds today. Speaker 1 00:34:18 No prob. Yeah, you'll be one of the first ones on. Speaker 0 00:34:20 Okay. So anybody here on the birthday application, it's gonna be carried to September 12th with no further notice. If for some reason you're not ready, let us know and we can carry it again. Speaker 1 00:34:30 Thank you. Speaker 0 00:34:31 Have a good night guys. Item number 10 24 dash zb dash 21 slash 22 v, Muslim Center of Middlesex County. Mr. Arch. Speaker 13 00:34:43 Hello, good evening. Members of the board, board professionals, my name is Tim Arch, attorney licensed in the state of New Jersey here representing Muslim Center of Middlesex County. You will recall that we were before you not too long ago. I believe we placed all the testimony on the record as to what we were looking for in terms of a freestanding LED digital signage for, for the mosques usage to basically act as a, as a way finding sign. There were some outstanding issues. I think what was brought up in the staff report, the two sort of outstanding issues were hours of operation and the type of, of imagery or, or potential video being shown on that signage. In the interim, since last time we were here, we had the opportunity to discuss with the staff and the town, the township's administration and worked out a developer's agreement to address, I believe all of those concerns. That's fourth hours operation sets forth the specific occasions during the year where, where short video clips may be able to be played, talks about their duration, talks about all those sorts of limitations. I don't believe there's any additional testimony that's necessary unless the board would like it. The developer's agreement was already executed. It was provided to the township and I believe provided to, to the board, to, to Mr. Chairman. And the, and Speaker 0 00:36:10 I got my copy right here. I believe we can, we can move ahead on this right now to be honest with it. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments about this application? Knowing that all the issues and comments that the or concerns I should say, that the, that the county had are, are addressed in this document here and we can move it forward on this. That being said, do eye open it to the public. Yes. Okay. Anyone on the public have any questions or comments about this application? There Speaker 1 00:36:40 Is no public, so no chairman. Speaker 0 00:36:41 Okay. Close the public portion and I would make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I'll second it. I please call the roll. Speaker 1 00:36:51 Mr. Weisman? Speaker 0 00:36:53 Yes. Speaker 1 00:36:53 Mr. Patel? Speaker 0 00:36:55 Ye. Mr. Bla Yes. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:36:58 Mr. Haka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Speaker 0 00:37:03 I. Laura, I cus myself from this application. Speaker 1 00:37:06 Oh, that's right. I apologize. Forgot. Speaker 0 00:37:07 Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:37:08 I didn't write it down, sorry. And Chairman Cahill? Yes. Thank you. Speaker 13 00:37:14 Thank you so much. Enjoy the evening. Speaker 0 00:37:15 Good night, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Chairman. Thank you. Let's move on to item number 11. Adoption of resolutions from the regular meeting of July 11th, 2024. First is tool Canter, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Blount? Yes. Mr. Duka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Ali? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Next is Nick Nicole Patel, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Blount? Yes. Mr. Hayden? Yes. Mr. Murdo? Yes. Mr. Ali? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Next is Chris Chu, which you voted to approve the amended application. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Blount? Yes. Mr. Duka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Ali? Yes. Cahill? Yes. Last resolution is on nor Academy, LLC, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Blount? Yes. Mr. Haya? Yes. Mr. Rado? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Those are all the resolutions I have this evening. Okay. Item number 14, adoption of the, I'm sorry. Item number 15. Adoption of the minutes from the regular meeting. July 11th, 2024. All in favor say aye. A. Okay. Item number 16, adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Everything guys. Have a good night.