Transcript for Piscataway Council meeting on February 18 2020
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Speaker 0 00:00:05 Alright, that brings us to number five, which is comments from the administration and counsel, this is regarding an adjournment of any matters on this agenda. Do I see any from counsel or administration? Okay, see none. That'll bring us to number six, which is open to the public and that is for comments regarding item number 14, which are the consent agenda items. So if anyone has a comment with regard to item number 14, please come up to the podium. Note that you have three minutes in which to speak and please state your name and address. Hi, my name is Hin Chaill. I'm a resident of Princeton. I'm here tonight in my capacity as a concerned citizen and an A CLU New Jersey board member. Good evening, Mayor Wahler, council President Cahill and members of the Piscataway Township Council. I wanna thank you for your unanimous support of the resolution that calls honor elected officials at every level to reunify migrant families and migrant detention, defund immigration enforcement and allows families to go through immigration proceedings with legal representation. Speaker 0 00:01:11 As you know, I've been leading an n effect to get cities and townships across New Jersey to pass this resolution and as I mentioned before, we plan to disseminate it nationally as well in the near future. I'm truly grateful to you for your courage and leadership for being among the first in the nation to pass the resolution. The scatter wave will be the fourth Township and the seventh municipality in the nation to call on our elected officials to stand up for justice for our immigrant brothers, sisters, and children. The truth is that for a long time as I watched the situation at our borders in our detention centers and in the interior of the country unfold, I could not understand why we as a society were not in an uproar or worthy inhumane treatment of migrants in our country. I really felt that we collectively as a society needed to raise our voice against his injustice and to be silent or do nothing was to be complicit And it is that belief that led me to draft it was solution. Speaker 0 00:02:09 I want to acknowledge from A CLU New Jersey and from Lake the Road New Jersey who provided expert input on the resolution and I want to acknowledge all my incredible fellow advocates for Justice who joined this movement along the way. Tonight in particular, I'm thinking about James Debrowski of Woodbridge who's been advocating to get the resolution on the council's agenda for the last several months. And at tonight's council meeting, James along with his team of Advocates for Justice will be speaking in support of the resolution while the hate group in town is protesting it. Also at the council meeting James, his wife Keisha and everyone joining them tonight are my heroes as they're willing to stand up for justice when they're truly confronted with hatred in having had so many varied experiences with the resolution in so many different towns and cities. I take nothing for granted and I'm truly grateful to you for your leadership and moral courage to stand up for what is right and just thank you for your a unanim support of the resolution. Thank you for standing up for justice. Thank you for giving a voice to the voiceless. Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing it to us. Anyone else in the public wishing to speak with regard to item number 14 may do so at this time. Please note that you have three minutes in which to speak and you must state your name and address. Speaker 2 00:03:31 Good evening. I'm Michelle Khan from Mulbridge New Jersey and I just wanted to thank you all for supporting the resolution. I'm starting to have home that families like my mine could be reunited at that children at the border don't have to suffer anymore. Hopefully you have all empowered me to keep advocating in regards to immigration issues and stay strong through this and it's also been a great way for me to heal after suffering with family separation. Thank you all again for your time and your consideration. Speaker 0 00:04:02 Thank you. Speaker 0 00:04:08 Good evening. Doreen Wilson Valley 74 Lincoln Avenue. My questions are relative to item M, the resolution designating Duke Realty New Brunswick urban renewal LLC as redeveloper and authorizing execution of redevelopment agreement. My understanding is this will enable yet another warehouse to be built in the area of Ward two across from Luke Oil. So that lends itself to many why questions that I have. The first one is why are you turning this Township into an industrial park? Living near or alongside of huge warehouses are certainly to negatively affect our property values. I didn't move 34 years ago to live in an industrial park. Why are you subjecting this community to the traffic and noise caused by hundreds of more trucks that will be rolling through and along this community when that was the reason they were diverted from River Road? So why can't the residents of ward two have the same benefit of quiet and safe streets that you allowed the residents of River Road? My other why is why aren't you open and honest with the people at Piscataway? I spoke to me many residents and they had no idea this was happening, that that area was not exclusively zoned for industrial. Why another warehouse? This will be what the third or fourth warehouse with over 120 bays, hundreds of trucks. Hundreds. Speaker 0 00:06:02 And lastly, why are you playing Russian roulette with our families with our lives? Do you know that there are 40 different toxic compound found in diesel fumes 40? That's four zero and it's a proven fact that diesel exhausts fumes can and do cause cancer. So we have trucks barreling down hose lane and we have kids playing outside in our new community center we have Riverdale apartments, hundreds of people living there and the backyards of people in that ward who will not only be subject to the noise, they'll be subject to the fumes. I have two grandchildren and both of them have asthma. I have a cough and I've had it for a while and I've been had so many medical workups and they can't seem to tell me what triggers it. Maybe it's the air because the American Lung Society gives PIs scan away a grade F and I'll leave with this. My children grew up in Piscataway, two boys and a girl. My young son, my young son, young man died of cancer, of a malignant tumor in his chest and the best doctors in the world, Johns Hopkins and many others cannot tell me what triggered it. Speaker 0 00:07:34 Thank you. Speaker 3 00:07:40 Red white 6 0 7 Alice Parker. I'd like to follow up on Doreen's comments. Just a little bit of the science. Diesel fumes are full of nitrous oxides. Nitrous oxides leads to ozone formation in the ground level area. Now I know many years ago we solved the ozone hole. There's a a right place and a wrong place for ozone. The right place is in the stratosphere far away from us. The wrong place is down at ground level. That's what causes the difficulty in breathing. If you continue to have warehouses built in this town, you are increasing the likelihood of COPD, cancer, asthma, emphysema, and those have societal effects. I'm asking you to internalize the externalities. There are costs. I think all of you would agree that medical costs in this country are too high and we could be improving our air quality and that would be something you would be doing for all of the residents of Pi Piscataway today. But instead you're worsening the situation. Now someone Doreen mentioned more warehouses. I happen to know there are at least eight warehouses that have been built five on River Road, three over here on Centennial and I'm sure there's more. You keep approving them and you're making this town an undesirable place to live. Just remember there are medical costs associated with all of the all of the bad air quality. Thank you for your information. Thank you for your time. Speaker 2 00:09:28 Thank Speaker 0 00:09:28 You very much. Anyone else in the publication speak may do so at this time? Speaker 2 00:09:34 Hi Kiana Butler, 44 Lincoln Avenue, Mayor Wahler. You visited my church, the Well church this past Sunday. You were there to talk to the congregation about the census. I think educating people about the census is great and we should all be knowledgeable about it. Like you said, we should all be counted. However, I just knew you weren't there to solely speak about the census. It's election time. Instead you use your time to fabricate what is really happening at Piscataway. You asked the congregation if you've been keeping up on the town's Facebook account in regards to the community center. You doted about all the lovely attractions that it will have golf simulators, pools, indoor track, just to name a few. All of that is great. You even joked about burning calories, Zumba and Pilates and them putting them back on by visiting the pizza oven that would be featured in the cafeteria. Speaker 2 00:10:27 It seems that help isn't a priority with this administration. You gave pushback about the Clean Air Act, but instead you promote the acceptance of more diesel trucks in the neighborhoods. Piscataway already has a great F with the American Lung Association. You then went to ask everyone how the new roads in the neighborhood where you thank this for patients with the construction and stated that this was the tail end of a 10 year project that would be completed by 2024 after that. You mentioned that you were working on rent out and renovating all of the abandoned or contaminated industrial sites. If so, wise is Duke Realty who is the nation's largest investment developer for warehouses building on Old New Brunswick Road and bringing in over a hundred loading docks for diesel trucks. You brag that you're able to keep taxes, love and that these corporations are picking up the freight and paying the taxes to pay for things like the community center. Speaker 2 00:11:24 But what you failed to say was that these are pilots in which these corporations are paying large sums of money that go straight to the municipality and depriving our schools of the necessary funding. But let's go back to you saying that these corporations pay for the community center. What happened to all the residents who don get their money decades ago? I think they deserve a refund or at least free membership. You stated that you've been Mayor for 20 years and that you've been through three recessions. You said you've seen the heartaches of parents who can't pay for things. Will the same parents you speak of be able to afford the membership fees of the community center? Yet again, the cost of the membership has yet to be disclosed. You said the Skyways typically known for it. Pharmaceuticals, food distribution or cosmetics. But now we are known for logistic centers. Speaker 2 00:12:17 No, we are beginning to be known for the town with horrible traffic and warehouses everywhere. That's right. Which isn't very desirable. Once again, brag about being a money magazine as one of the best places to live and even encourage the members of the congregation to move to Piscataway. I love Piscataway. Lastly, you thank the congregation for putting up with you and your council through the good and the bad times. You said that you will always be here for us. You even lied and said that you're always around and that you don't have a life. You said you have a wife, three kids and four dogs and that you never go on vacation. You said you only go from your house to town hall, which is only blocks away. I'm sorry, you three minutes are up. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you. Speaker 5 00:13:07 John Ana 5 1 5 Longfellow Avenue With regard to the construction on Old New Brunswick Road. I, I mean I know these people are putting some very good arguments. They'll probably be ignored. But so if this project does go through, I'd like to suggest two changes to the to the proposal. One is that the green arrow coming off South Randolphville Road, that's very dangerous right there. I like to see that removed and actually made a no right turn on red 'cause there's traffic. You've got less than 500 feet from the next traffic light and really of less than 250 feet to switch. Lane Speaker 4 00:13:45 Station's gonna be, it's gonna be redone and it's gonna be, I'm not sure of the details of it. Speaker 5 00:13:51 Well I understand it's gonna be gonna be able to go straight, but Speaker 4 00:13:55 What you're asking for is gonna be redone and it's gonna be paid for by developers that are on that corner. It's be I understand probably, but that is gonna be correct. Speaker 5 00:14:06 Okay. That was my one suggestion. The other suggestion was, so with the Avalon apartments and I've done, I've tried to do this because it'd be nice to have a bike path or some type of sidewalk over that bridge right there on, on Old Brunswick Road coming down to Luke Oil and now through the warehouse because it's very difficult for bikers either bikers who you take the the dirt, dirt path because it's very bumpy and and there's brush that keeps hitting in the head and or riding on the street, which you, you're really taking your hands, you're liking your hands like driving on the street, taking a bike on the street there. So I wish there was something that could be done to have some type of bike path so the kids from AON and other areas can, can take the bike to the high school, they can take the bike to the community center and and other places and then have that continue down past the warehouses. Speaker 1 00:15:07 I thank you Speaker 5 00:15:13 Anthony Wild 2250 Plainfield Avenue North and I Speaker 5 00:15:20 Spoke to you guys about the warehouse you built next to my house and I'm sure you were thinking it was NIMBY not in my backyard, that this is across Piscataway terrible air and I mean more and more studies showing the particulates in diesel fumes can get into your heart, can get into virtually every organ in your body. And why we would just continue to add more and more warehouses is beyond me. If you actually care about the health of particularly of children and elderly, it just does not seem that this is the best interest of the people because getaway and it really befuddles me that this is a attack you want to take. Speaker 1 00:16:08 Thank you. Well set Speaker 6 00:16:19 TS four 11 new market road given the folks on his body purportedly represent the people of Piscataway. I'm dismayed to hear of yet another proposed facility which will increase the demand for fossil fuels and therefore increase the demand for fossil fuel infrastructure. Taking any action which will increase the demand for fossil fuels is a falling of planetary proportions and it's irrespective of any financial arguments to the contrary, the negative secondary and following effects must be considered and I believe they outweigh any financial benefits, which themselves are questionable. What will be the effect on air quality? What will be the effect on property values when another distribution facility is situated just a few hundred yards from a middle school? Why are these construction projects being treated differently than the open space of how performed? Speaker 1 00:17:09 That's right. That's right. Speaker 6 00:17:10 Right. Why was that supposedly kept as open space while the owners of other properties are being allowed to construct traffic clogging, air polluting facilities. The great constitutional paradigm of this country is that the power is vested in the people. Unfortunately here in New Jersey, the people have been stripped of their power by a very corrupt political machine and its enablers. The use of organization lines in primary elections is something which has been shown to be biased and therefore undemocratic. It is only supported by those who are either part of or closely connected to the corrupt political machine. And causes me to question whether any elected official in this room is actually duly elected or not. Speaker 1 00:17:51 No thank No thank you Steve. Okay. Speaker 2 00:17:59 Good evening. Staci Ellis Parkway. I'm sorry. Speaker 4 00:18:04 Stuck is my colleague. Mr, go ahead. You can make yours teach now, not answer your questions. Speaker 1 00:18:11 Go ahead. Speaker 2 00:18:12 Don't presume to to know what I'm going to do or what I will do. If you wanna ask me a question, Steve, by all means feel free Speaker 1 00:18:18 Me. Speaker 2 00:18:19 I know every time. Oh Jesus. Every single time. So first of all, I wanna congratulate Eshe and Michelle and the folks at the A CLU for getting an agenda. I getting the resolution on the agenda. We were really happy to be able to support that. Congratulations. And many of us came here in September of 2017 and asked you all to adopt something similar and encouraged you to join the many other communities around New Jersey that were taking part in the sanctuary communities and fair and welcoming communities requirement. We still haven't done that. So we welcome you to join the rest of the state of New Jersey in doing that at your very earliest convenience. It's great to pass a resolution to support reuniting migrant families. It's also incumbent on us to help make sure that we don't have families that are separated in our own facilities here in New Jersey. Speaker 2 00:19:10 And so we wait with B breath for you all to take some action here in our own community that can do that. And we're happy to provide you copies of resolutions to that effect. But we do applaud you for doing what you did today because it's very important and it's good that people who don't necessarily agree on everything can agree on some basic things like children should go along the cages and we should return our families and restore community, restore them to their communities. But we would like to see you take some actual leadership on the other remaining issues that are out there. Second on the designation of Duke Realty on as an urban renewal department and the creation of another warehouse, Speaker 2 00:19:49 It's beyond me that this is the only place we can have this conversation. That you actually have an environmental commission that you refuse to convene, that you do not have members that anybody on the public can contact. I filed an open public records act request, all the contact information for the members of the commission was blacked out, which seems like a pretty starring solid signal that you don't actually want the public to be in touch with the people who theoretically are appointed. And I, I don't understand why you wouldn't wanna have, instead of having this adversarial thing that you seem to really loathe that you wouldn't wanna have an environmental commission where we could have the kind of conversations that Doreen and Kiana and Herb and Fred have raised. Is there a reason that you refuse to, to name and hold the environmental commission meetings? Speaker 1 00:20:36 Crickets. Speaker 2 00:20:36 Can can you do it? Can you commit to making that happen? Speaker 1 00:20:42 Don't Speaker 2 00:20:42 Everybody jump at once. I mean this is your purview. You have the right to do that. Why? Why wouldn't you wanna do that Councilman, Barbara? Why? Why would you not want to have an environmental commission that can vet these kinds of developments in addition to the zoning and planning board where you can talk about the impact on our health and wellbeing? My two sons both have had asthma. I don't wanna see anyone else's child have asthma. I certainly don't think our seniors want to have lower air quality. It's up to you to do that. On the one hand we adopted the clean air ordinance, which none of you campaign for, but you all try to take credit for, which is going to improve our air quality. And at the other hand, you're building warehouses on every last inch of open space and taking down trees wherever you can. So it's really unfortunate that you won't, that you all look away and you'll stare at your phones but you won't actually do the things that people elected you to do, which is to have a democratic open process. Speaker 4 00:21:39 Thank you. Ms. Carter, did you wanna ask me a question? Please. By all means that approved for Speaker 2 00:21:51 Rezoned. Yeah, it was. It was set. I believe that it was set up to be part of your affordable housing plans. Speaker 4 00:21:57 Oh. Which Speaker 2 00:21:58 You still have to do somewhere. So in the more, and it's really interesting that you say that because the more warehouse jobs that you bring in, the more you increase the community's responsibility for a fair, for a fair share obligation. So you're not, you're not moving that somewhere off the books. Speaker 4 00:22:15 So the prefer 600 units there as opposed to a warehouse. Speaker 2 00:22:19 That's that's not, that's not, do you not know how the fair housing obligation works? That's not how that works. You're Speaker 4 00:22:25 Not Speaker 2 00:22:25 Answering my question. I'm not. 'cause your question makes no sense. That's like saying, would I rather have ice cream or french fries? You're Speaker 4 00:22:30 You're here. I want them vote. You're here to tell us that you were Speaker 2 00:22:33 By all means Speaker 4 00:22:35 Change from it. Current use of 600 units to be built through a warehouse. You're opposed to that. So I'm asking you, Speaker 2 00:22:41 I'm opposed to the warehouse being built. You signed an agreement with this court of middle answer question. I am answering the question. You all signed an agreement with the court and as far as I know another organization called Fair Share Housing Sector, which I do not work for, although you will tell people that I do because you lie about things that count that that agreement which was approved by Middlesex County said you have to build those homes somewhere in Piscataway. So I don't know where you're going to build them if you're not going to build them there, but under that decree that the Mayor signed and you all adopted, you still have to do that. Right? Speaker 4 00:23:13 So where are you going to build those homes because of efforts of folks like you. But my question is simply because Speaker 2 00:23:17 I believe people should have a place to live. Answer the Speaker 4 00:23:19 Question. Speaker 2 00:23:20 Well, I'm asking, I'm asking you a question. Do you think that people should have a place to live or should they live in their cars? Speaker 4 00:23:25 That's not an argument that we we Well he brought it up. He brought it up President, he asked me Speaker 2 00:23:31 A question I answering Speaker 4 00:23:33 You can answer the Speaker 2 00:23:34 Question. I did answer the question. I would like those houses to be built and the warehouse to not be built. Another Speaker 4 00:23:39 Question didn't Speaker 2 00:23:39 Wanna answer your question. I answered your question. You have another question Ms. Speaker 4 00:23:42 Berger, Speaker 2 00:23:42 Let's let Mr. Speaker 4 00:23:44 For turn. Thank you. No problem. Speaker 6 00:23:51 That's tough. We can get into more q and a. Good evening. Bill Erwin 2 33. Speaker 4 00:23:57 You can answer my one question that nobody wants to answer. Oh my God. Direct answer to my question. Do you want 600 housing units there? You have to build those units is my Speaker 6 00:24:05 Question. Are the six, are the 600 housing units going to be built somewhere anyway, yes or no? I Speaker 4 00:24:10 Don't know the answer to that. Yes. Signed Speaker 6 00:24:18 Excuse, Speaker 4 00:24:20 Move this alone. Answer he's asking me. S mr. Compliance, why? Why don't you ask in compliance Speaker 6 00:24:28 By submitting that plan you were in compliance but that plan calls for the construction of a thousand affordable housing units. Was it not? It does. Off topic. Speaker 4 00:24:38 Go ahead. Go ahead Mr. On topic Speaker 6 00:24:41 You brought Speaker 4 00:24:42 Brought up. Anyway, what I Speaker 6 00:24:44 To say, Speaker 6 00:24:46 What I wanted to say was I wanted to thank the council for their item number kk, the resolution in support of my family. I wanted to thank the council for adopting that resolution and taking the opportunity to take leadership on that important issue. I think it represents a very good step and I would hope that that resolution, if we have a moment, we're all here. If you could read that into the minutes, I, I think it's a good resolution and it deserves to be heard regarding the latest whereas proposal that's being discussed tonight, I mean let's face it, warehouses are not particularly popular for sure. Nobody wants one in their backyard. But beyond that, most people don't want a town full of them either. Now one could argue that in a large town like Piscataway, which has a mix of commercial and residential rateables, that having a couple of warehouses in the mix is not unreasonable provided they were consciously located to minimize impact to residential areas. Speaker 6 00:25:44 But that's not really what we're talking about here. The concerns that are being raised tonight is that the past few years have seen a proliferation of warehouses in Ska Lake with no end in sight and no clear indication that their proximity to residential neighborhoods is being taken into account at all. If there have been overall health and environmental impact studies conducted, we haven't been made aware of the methodology or the results of those studies and with the prospect of another 120 bays coming in, I know there's been some heated back and forth, but it's quite reasonable to ask when is enough enough? Where does it stop or is the future to have, you know, every parcel for development or redevelopment become another one of these distribution centers. Now as elected officials, you do have considerable saying what type of development takes place. You could be opposed to more warehouse development than zone. Speaker 6 00:26:37 Accordingly, you could be neutral on the issue and just say, well it's currently zoned commercial so they're allowed to build what they want. Or you could actively encourage the building of warehouses, which is what you're currently doing every time tax breaks are given to the developers in the form of pilot agreements which have often been accompanied in these developments. Now time doesn't permit us to get into the particulars of pilot agreements tonight, but they do starve the school district of funds. They do represent part of a race to the bottom like the fiasco we saw with Amazon, everybody falling all over themselves to have Amazon not pay taxes and in the end they deprive the overall public treasury of media property taxes and by their use you're consciously, actively promoting this kind of warehouse development. Then you should stop. Speaker 0 00:27:31 Thank you. Good Speaker 2 00:27:33 Evening council. Good evening Mayor. I guess this is beat up on the Mayor day, the Mayor. I'm not here for that. I'm here to encourage our council and to say that we applaud you Mayor, we applaud the council in Piscataway. There are thousands of people that I meet and that say that they are very proud to live in this town. I know that there are naysayers here tonight and I know that they are here for an agenda. I'm not here for that. I did receive a letter last week by one of our committee people and I did receive a a, a letter by our chair and vice chair. That's the letter that I respect because respect begets respect and that if you're come here and attack our leadership, I just don't feel that this is the forum for it. However, I'm here tolo you and there are thousands others that do so too. Again, my name is Gina Alexander. I live at 1 15 9 year drive in Paca. Jesse, thank you. Speaker 0 00:28:28 Here, what is the four that they don't to speak about? Item number Speaker 2 00:28:38 Four? Yes. Speaker 0 00:28:41 The public portion for that item to number seven, which is a proclamation Zeta five beta sorority Omega Zeta chapter centennial anniversary. Sorry to keep it down. Whereas Zeta five Beta Sorority Inc. Was founded at Howard University on January 16th, 1920. And whereas the five founders of Zeta five Beta Sorority Inc envisioned the sorority which would directly affect positive change charter course of action for the 1920s and beyond. Various consciousness of their people encourage the highest standards of scholastic achievement and foster a greater sense of unity among its members and is whereas Zeta Beta Sorority Inc. Promotes social action in many venues such as get engaged program to address the underlying issues in our communities, drive individual and community engagement, empower citizens to get involved and cultivate a culture of mutual respect in our communities. And whereas beyond the United States, Zeta five Beta Sorority Inc. Has chapters in several countries and was the first Greek letter organization to charter a chapter in Africa with the December, 1948 creation of a graduate chapter in Monrovia Liberia. Speaker 0 00:30:12 And whereas notable members include Congresswoman Julia Carson of Indiana and Donna Edwards of Maryland Rear Admiral Ev Evelyn J. Fields author Zora Neil Stelton Grammy Award recipient Sarah Bra law Professor Anita Hill and Olympic medalist Lily Leatherwood. And whereas its Omega M chapter has several dozen members who live in Middlesex County, including a robust number of Piscataway residents. And whereas the chapter has contributed mightily to the wellbeing of Central New Jersey through its Phil philanthropic and community service endeavors that include the awarding of scholarships to local students and participation in March of Dimes in American Cancer Society events. Neither be it resolved. Brian c Wahler Mayor of the Township of Piscataway County of Middlesex, state of New Jersey Pro claims and Extols the virtues of the Zeta five Beta Sorority Inc. Speaker 1 00:32:25 All over. Speaker 0 00:32:51 All right, thank you. That was just wonderful. That'll bring us to number eight, which is in ordinance on second reading, provide for the construction of local improvement sidewalk Centennial Avenue frontage block 49 5 0.5 lot 1.02 1306 Centennial Avenue in hose lane frontage block 6,003 lot 12.0 1 3 77 hose lane. This is open to the public and it'll be a resolution adopting ordinance. The seat will please read the resolution may it resolved by the Township Council of the Township New Jersey that an ordinance entitled ordinance to provide for the construction of local improvement sidewalks on the Centennial Avenue frontage of block 4 95 0.5 lot 1.02 of the Township of Piscataway tax map commonly known as 1 3 0 6 Centennial Avenue and along the hose lane frontage of block 6 0 0 3 lot one 2.01 of the Township of Piscataway tax map commonly known as 3 77 hose lane Piscataway as permitted under NJ njs. Speaker 0 00:33:53 A 40 65 dash one was introduced on the 28th day of January, 2020 and it passed the first reading. It was published on the 31st day of January, 2020. Now therefore be it resolved that the officer had ordinance having had a second reading on February 18th, 2020 the adopted passage and after passage be published together with a notice of the date of passage or approval in the official newspaper. You further resolved that this ordinance shall be assigned number 2020 dash zero three. Thank you Ms. Cedar. And this is open to the public. If 15 issues to comment with regard to this ordinance may do so at this time. See none, I'll close that public portion. Do I have an offer? Offer. Offer. Okay. And an offer and a second. Ms. Cedar, would you please take the roll call? Councilman Bullard? Yes. Councilman Cahn. Yes. Councilman Ardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Speaker 0 00:34:47 Councilman Lin? Yes. Council President Cahill? Yes. And that ordinance passes on second reading and that'll bring us to number nine, which is an ordinance on second reading to provide for the construction of local improvement sidewalks. This is South Avenue frontage block 1101 lots, 2.02 and five block 1102 lots, 43.01 and 51.01 and block 1103 lot 32 0 1 7 25 South Avenue, 7 27 South Avenue, seven 11 South Avenue, 28 Howard Street and 1 71 Lugar Street. This is also open to the public and it is a resolution adopting ordinance. Ms. Cedar, would you please read the resolution be it resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled ordinance to provide for the construction of local improvement sidewalks on the South Avenue frontage of block 1, 1 0 1 lots, 2.02 and five block 1 1 0 2 lots, 43.01 and 51.01 and block 1 1 0 3 Lot 32.01 of the town of Piscataway tax map commonly known as 7 25 7 27 7 11 South Avenue, 28 Howard Street and 1 71 L Guard Street. Speaker 0 00:36:04 This getaway as permitted under Njs, A 40 65 dash one was introduced on the 28th day of January, 2020 and I passed the first reading it was published on the 31st of day of January, 2020. Now therefore be resolved that the opposite ordinance having had a second reading on February 18th, 2020, the adopted passed and after passage be published together with the notice of the date of passage or approval in the official newspaper. Be further resolved that this ordinance shall be assigned number 2020 dash zero four. Thank you Ms. Cedar. Is there anyone in the public wishing to comment with regard to this ordinance? Seeing none, I'll close that public portion. Do I have an offer? Second. And offer in a second. Ms. C, would you please take the roll call? Councilman Buller? Yes. Councilman Cahn. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman Uhrin. Council. Council president ca? Yes. Speaker 0 00:37:05 And the ordinance passes on first reading and that'll bring us to number 10, which is an ordinance on first reading. This is an ordinance, sorry, authorizing the execution of financial agreement with Duke Realty, new Brunswick Urban Renewal LLCA resolution adopting ordinance Ms. Seat, would you please read the ordinance Be resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey That an ordinance entitled Ordinance of the Township of Piscataway County of Middlesex, New Jersey, authorizing the execution of a financial agreement by and between the Township and PIs, Piscataway and Duke Realty New Brunswick Urban Renewal. LLC being is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading in public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Rose Lane Piscataway, New Jersey on the 10th day of March, 2020. Be a further result that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township Clerk for any interested member of the public. Speaker 0 00:38:19 Thank you Ms. Cedar, do I have an offer all? No. Do I have a second? Second Ms. Would you please take the roll call? Councilman Bullard. Yes. Councilman Conn. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman Uhrin. Yes. Council President Cahill? Yes. And the ordinance passes on first reading and that'll bring us to number 11, which is an ordinance on first reading amending chapter 17, property Maintenance Maintenance dumpsters and containers. It is a resolution adopting ordinance Ms. Cedar, would you please read the resolution? Be It resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled Ordinance to amend the revised general ordinances of the Township of Piscataway County of Middlesex State New Jersey amending Chapter 17 Property maintenance B is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading in public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane Piscataway, New Jersey on the 10th day of March, 2020. Speaker 0 00:39:23 Be further resolved that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township Court for any interested member of the public. Thank you Ms. Sea. Do I have an offer? Do I have a second? Second. Ms. Sea, would you please take the rollover? Councilman Bullard? Yes. Councilman Kahn. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman rn. Yes. Council President Cahill? Yes. And the ordinance passes on first reading that'll bring us to number 12, which is an ordinance on first reading, amending the fee ordinance, chapter 12, parks and Recreation. It's a resolution adopt ordinance. Ms. C, would you please read the resolution? Be it resolved by the Township Council of Piscataway Township, New Jersey that an ordinance. Speaker 0 00:40:16 Ordinance to amend and supplement the revised general ordinances of the Township of Piscataway, county of Noex, state of New Jersey, amending Chapter 12 Parks and Recreation Section 4.1. Fees and charges being is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading in public hearing be held at 7:30 PM prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 Hose Lane Piscataway, New Jersey on the 10th day of March, 2020. You have further resolved a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township clerk for any interest in member of the public. Thank you Ms. Cedar, do I have an offer? Offer? Do I have a second? Second. Speaker 0 00:41:05 Ms. Cedar, would you please take the roll call vote. Councilman Bullard. Yes. Councilman Kahn. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman Rin. Yes. Council President Kay? Yes. And the ordinance passes on first reading that'll bring us to number 13, which is an ordinance on first reading authorizing the sale of a portion of block 45 0 1 lot 1.02 to a contiguous, contiguous property owner. It is a resolution adopting ordinance. Ms. C, would you please read The Resolution Be resolved by the town of Council of Piscataway, Township, New Jersey that an ordinance entitled An Ordinance of the Township of Piscataway County of Middlesex City, New Jersey, authorizing the sale of certain lands owned by the Township of Piscataway pursuant to NJ SA 40 a 12 dash 13 B is hereby adopted on the first reading that it be published in the official newspaper. And that a second reading of public hearing be held at 7:30 PM per prevailing time at the Piscataway Municipal Building 4 55 H Lane Piscataway, New Jersey on the 10th day of March, 2020 via further resolve that a copy of this ordinance shall be posted in at least two public places within the Township prior to the day of the second reading and final passage. Speaker 0 00:42:19 And a copy of this ordinance shall be made available at the office of the Township Clerk for any interested member of the public. Thank you Ms. Cedar, do I have an offer? Offer? Do I have a second? Second Ms. Would you please take your role? Full vote Councilman ruler? Yes. Councilman Cahn. Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman Uhrin. Yes. Council President Cahill? Yes. And the ordinance passes on first reading and that'll bring us to number 14 for efficiency. Items have been consolidated into a consent agenda to be voted on together. The materials for these items have been distributed to the council in advance of the meeting at this time, are there any items that the council would like removed from the consent agenda to be discussed or voted on separately? Okay. Scene. None. Do I have an offer? Speaker 0 00:43:16 Offer? Do I have a second? Second you sir, would you please take the roll call? Councilman Bullard? Yes. Councilman Cahn? Yes. Councilwoman Lombardi. Yes. Councilman Shaw? Yes. Councilman Rin. Yes. Council President Caden? Yes. And the consent to the items pass. So that will bring us to number 15, which are announcements and comments from officials. Councilman. Thank you. Councilman. Cahn Council? No thank you. Councilman? Councilman? No. Mr. Mayor. Administrator. Okay. And I have none at this time. Actually, you know what? I just wanna say one thing. I'm not sure. There was somebody in the audience who was commenting about the fees for the recreation center and we just voted on tonight to on a first reading for those. So they should be published by the end of this week. And also too to, I think most people may now know that the YMCA will be the management company for the commission. Alright, so that will bring us to number 16, which are, which is the agenda session for the March 10th, 2020 meeting. Speaker 0 00:44:50 First item is the ordinance on second reading authorizing an execution of financial agreement with Duke Realty New Urban renewal. LLC, open to the public and it'll be a resolution adopting ordinance. Are there any comments or concerns with regarding that item? And then that will be on the next item will be an ordinance on second reading amending chapter 17, property MA maintenance dumpsters containers. It'll also be open to the public at that time. Any comments or questions meaning on that will be on. The next one will be an ordinance on second reading amending fee ordinance chapter 12, parks and Recreation, which will also be open to the public and it'll be a resolution adopting ordinance. Any comments or questions with regard to that? I see none. The next item will be an ordinance on first reading amending chapter seven through 14, parking prohibited at all times on certain streets and it'll be a resolution adopting ordinance. Are there any comments or questions from Councilman? Yeah, I have one quick, quick question on that one. I did read it was on South Second Street. Are there any other streets that are listed in that one? Speaker 4 00:45:58 Because Speaker 0 00:45:59 It says certain streets Speaker 0 00:46:15 All we'll get the follow up on that will be on that. Okay. Thank. Okay. All right. Anyone else on that item? I see none that will be on there. That then will bring us to an ordinance on second reading authorizing the sale of a portion of block 45 0 1 lot 1.02 to a contiguous property owner. It'll also be open to the public at that time. Are there any comments or questions with regard to that item? Seeing none that will be on. The next item will be a resolution authorizing award of Bid, Linwood and Crestwood Streets improvements. It'll be a bid opening February 27th, 2020. Any comments or questions with regard to that? Seeing none that will be on, that'll just be added to the list of all the streets that we have for 2020 that we've posted up. Great. Okay. The next item will be a resolution authorizing award of bid rebid Johnson Avenue drainage improvements bid opening February 27th, 2020. Any comments or questions about that? Seeing none that will be on Next will be an item of resolution authorizing award bid, vegetative debris removal from public properties m and a Tree Service Inc. Not to exceed $415,000. Any comments or questions with regard to that? Speaker 0 00:47:37 Okay, seeing none that will be on. And that'll bring us to number 17. Anyone in the public wishing to comment may do so at this time. Please come to the podium. State your name and address. So note that you have three minutes in which to speak. Speaker 6 00:47:52 Bill on 2 33 ELs Parkway, the Skyway. I couldn't help but notice last meeting that as the result of the recent change in the way the council meetings are structured, the total amount of time that members of the public are allotted to speak on non-consent agenda items has been effectively cut in half. Now the council president assured everyone that this was not the purpose nor the intent of the restructuring of the council meetings. And I take the right of work. Nevertheless, whether intended or not, the fact that remains is that speaking time has been cut in hand and therefore the question remains whether the council is happy with this unintended consequence of their actions. If in fact the council is in favor of public speaking time being reduced, then no further action is necessary. It's already been done. If on the other hand the council is in favor of affording the same amount of time to members of the public that they previously had, then I would suggest that the problem would be easily solved by removing the restriction on the first public comment section on the agenda that limits the comment to consent agenda items. Speaker 6 00:48:59 I think that would be close enough to the previous statement to be satisfactory. Speaker 1 00:49:04 Thank Speaker 0 00:49:04 You. Thank you, your Honor. Speaker 2 00:49:11 Hi, I'm Gina Alexander of one 15 Liter Drive. I just wanna bring to the council's attention that prior to my standing to give my statement, the same gentleman that just spoke before me told me that I could not speak and that it was now questioned and answer time in an attempt to intimidate me from speaking to my counsel. So I just wanna say, Speaker 1 00:49:35 I wanna say Speaker 2 00:49:37 I, I know it's it's comedy hour, but I just wanna say that I have not noticed that there has been no shortened time of anyone allowed to speak. And that usually when we do come up to the podium, you give us grace and you allow us to speak. You don't get laughter, you don't get mimicking, you don't get backlash from you. So this is the first time that I've come to a, a council session where I've gotten this kind of treatment. But then I understand, again, I applaud my council, I applaud my leadership. I, I applaud Mayor. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:50:09 Thank you. Speaker 3 00:50:16 I think she needs a lesson and not being rude, I was standing in line waiting my turn and she just walked in front of me. But at any rate, I'd just like to ask a question. May I ask a question about number R on 14, the first part of the meeting. Thank you. Who did the bid go to for that resolution? Speaker 5 00:50:45 Yeah, so the, the bid is out, we're now on the street on the 6th of February and EP requires it to be up for a certain amount of time. And then we have a holiday in there and the day after the holiday, so we're, they're due back to us on the 26th. So on the 26th they, the final bidding, the auction ends at 11:00 AM on that day. And then we'll let execute the contract that day Speaker 3 00:51:13 On the 26th. 26th. Alright. And thank you for that. And does that still involve production of electricity through wind and solar? Speaker 5 00:51:24 Yep. It's got a minimum of 30% and it will also have a 50% alternative and a hundred percent alternative that people could buy also. Speaker 3 00:51:35 Okay. And when do you intend to send something out to the public to allow them to sign up for? Speaker 5 00:51:43 What it is gonna be is that everybody will be getting a notice probably right around the 26th. The BPU has to approve all the publications that go out. It's extended form, it goes out before we go public, what's going on. And that goes to each of the residents that has a meter. And then after we award the contract and the third party that gets the contract, we'll send an op out letter, generally probably about the seventh to 10th of March. And that gives people 30 days to opt out. Everybody will be included in, unless you opt out and if you decide at a later date opt out, you'll be able opt out. But the initial opt out is for a 30 day period. And we're looking to capture this for probably the May eater reading. So it'll be reflected in the June bill. Speaker 3 00:52:35 And will the Township of the Seattle for its own needs be using any of the electricity? Speaker 5 00:52:42 Yeah, we already, we already do. How Speaker 3 00:52:44 Much, what Speaker 5 00:52:44 Percent? Right now we're at 25%. Speaker 3 00:52:47 And will it go up? Speaker 5 00:52:48 We could look at doing it the next time we bid. This bid will not include the municipal. This is for residential and small, small commercial. Speaker 3 00:52:56 When might the Township decide to increase its usage of renewable sources? Speaker 5 00:53:04 We'll look at it when we are preparing our specs. Next time, Speaker 3 00:53:07 Next meeting? Speaker 5 00:53:08 No, next time. We're currently in a contract. We award the contract last fall. So when that contract generally you start looking at about six months out from the expiration of the Speaker 3 00:53:18 Contract. So next fall? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Ray doesn't, Speaker 5 00:53:23 Doesn't the contract Speaker 8 00:53:25 By the board public. Yeah. All all those by the board public. My name is Costas. I live at 58 Curtis. We have these talks about ordinance and violations. Township is not enforcing these ordinance violations. And when we go to these office making a complaint, we admit with a very apprehensive attitude is not right. I mean they are lot and scared away. There are drastically needing attention by property maintenance people and it's not, it's happen. We need your help. Please help us. Speaker 1 00:54:26 Thank Speaker 2 00:54:26 You sir. Staci Ellis Parkway. So can you please read the resolution that has the community center fees? 'cause I think the whole town is watching and would like to really know. Can you read that? Council president? Is that possible? Okay. But is there some reason why we can't know now? Like is it a secret somewhere? Speaker 1 00:54:52 I don't think that fees Speaker 0 00:54:53 Are actually listed. Speaker 2 00:54:54 Oh, you said, you said that the fees would be That was what you just said. Speaker 0 00:54:58 We, we just approved the resolution to accept the fee schedule from the Y and we are gonna post it to the public, I think on Thursday. Speaker 2 00:55:08 So, so does, does the ordinance that you approve not include the fee schedule? Speaker 1 00:55:12 So what is your approving Speaker 2 00:55:14 Like? Can you read the fees into the record so everybody knows? Now? Council president, Speaker 8 00:55:19 You don't have to read the fees. Speaker 2 00:55:19 Course she doesn't, but I'm asking if she can. You want three minutes Mr. Mayor come. Speaker 0 00:55:23 You too. We're gonna ask publicize. We're gonna publicize. There's nothing hidden here. There's a fees we provide to the YI can appreciate why you're asking us to do that now, Ms. Berger. But we made a plan and said, and we kept to it from our last meeting saying that it would be around this time that we would publish them. Speaker 2 00:55:42 Right. So in your hand, are you holding the fee schedule? Yes. So can you just read it so people know Speaker 1 00:55:52 Burger? Am I crazy? Why a big deal? Speaker 0 00:55:56 Ms. Berger Speaker 2 00:55:58 Ms. Speaker 8 00:55:59 We are asking for help. Speaker 0 00:56:01 I am telling you now that we are gonna have it posted this week. The public will be able to read this. It'll be everywhere for them to see. I think that everyone will be pleasantly surprised. I'm not sure what the intent it is that you have for me to read it tonight, but I'm not Speaker 1 00:56:17 So everyone, everybody wants to know to be published. Speaker 2 00:56:22 Okay, so she's not gonna read it. That's fine. So thing I am gonna read though, the other thing I'm gonna read is the statement from the township's attorney. Just keep it down. February 18th, almost three years, four years, exactly to the day, Councilman Cahn, the Township of Piscataway Court has entered into a tentative settlement of its affordable housing obligations with the parties to the litigation, which is Fair Share Housing Center, which the Township itself proactively filed with the Superior Court said James Clark in iii, the attorney for Piscataway, the proposed settlement will be reviewed by Superior court Judge next month. Clarkin said, and I quote, the Township is proud that it has met all of its affordable housing obligations in the past and it is hopeful the proposed settlement will be approved. So are you saying you're going to bail on the proposed settlement that you asked for by building a warehouse? Because you asked me and I'm asking the Mayor, the Business Administrator, your attorney, 25 attorneys, you're done with Speaker 4 00:57:14 Your speech. And now I question Speaker 2 00:57:17 Are, my question is very simple. Are you going to build the 600 homes that were supposed to be built where you're building a warehouse somewhere else? Or are you going to bail on the, on the proposal Speaker 4 00:57:26 We have a master Speaker 2 00:57:26 Plan. I'm aware that Speaker 4 00:57:28 Only applies to all of the off our COA requirements. Speaker 2 00:57:32 That's council on Affordable housing for folks who don't know what that means, we have. Speaker 4 00:57:36 And Speaker 2 00:57:36 So you're gonna build the 600, you're gonna build those 600 units somewhere else and a warehouse. It's Speaker 4 00:57:41 Not 600 Speaker 2 00:57:41 Units. You said leading the public. I'm sorry, did he say 600 units? Like the whole time I was up here last time he said 600 units. You said it, it's on video tape. Thanks Lilia. No, Speaker 4 00:57:50 It's not 600 affordable housing units. Speaker 2 00:57:53 I know what it is. That site, because you had inclusionary zoning, which allows the developer to do way more housing than they need to. Are you done? I don't know. Am I, I don't, I don't know. It's hard to tell you. Keep interrupting me. President. Speaker 4 00:58:04 Can we, and I'll clarify what's actually the case. Speaker 2 00:58:08 She's got her time. Reclaim my time. You said you asked me very specifically Councilman Cahn if I wanted those, the warehouse or the homes built. And I said, Speaker 2 00:58:19 Council president, could you ask him to please stop commenting while I'm talking? It's very hard. I can't tell if he's asking me a question or why don't you make your statement? I'm trying, he keeps asking me questions and then when I make your state, I'm trying, it's I'm Please go ahead. Okay. This council and this Mayor and this, the attorneys who are in the back of the room, I believe made a commitment to the court that you were going to build all of the homes in the settlement. If you build this warehouse there, you have to relocate those homes somewhere else. On top of that, you increase your bare share housing obligation because the obligation is based on the number of jobs that you create. I'm sorry it's boring Councilman, but it's true. The question I have for the council is whether you're going, whether you're aware of that and where you're going to build the homes that are now not going to be built there. Instead, Councilman Cahn asked me whether I wanted the warehouse or the homes. And my question back to you is, are you gonna break your agreement with the court so you get sued and then we all have to pay more taxes because now we have legal bills we didn't have before. Thank you Ms. Speaker 8 00:59:20 Berger. Your three minutes are up by your Speaker 2 00:59:23 Votes. I don't, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not. You say that you lied Councilman time. You just lied Speaker 8 00:59:28 It's way I used that word, Ms. Gardner, Speaker 2 00:59:30 I'm not, I'm, I do not sue anybody. And you tell people that I giving you action time. I, and I appreciate that. But he's lying. So can you ask him to stop you? Speaker 8 00:59:40 You stated Speaker 2 00:59:41 That I know it's true. Why don't you let Mr. Grubbs who looks like he's about to make his way up here, I'm happy to do that. But I would like Councilman Cahn to stop telling untruths. It's really just, it's not a good look. Speaker 8 00:59:53 I'll tell you what I, I I up with you making accusations No. To have absolutely no factual basis. Speaker 2 01:00:02 Have I ever have I sued at all. Except for when you, except for when you tried to violate my open public meetings act rights by not allowing me to videotape, which turned out you were wrong. Speaker 8 01:00:13 Turn time up. Yes, but you keep Speaker 2 01:00:15 Talking but you keep talking to me. So I mean, I have a right to respond and defend myself. Yeah. You don't have the right as a public official, you don't have the right as a public official to make ad hominin attacks against me from the days that is unethical and improper. Ms. Firmer, thank you. I appreciate your time. Let Mr. Gr tell him for, Speaker 8 01:00:38 Wow. I dunno if I can follow that. Even Curtis Grove seven 50 West third. Okay, I need to know, first of all, I have to parking on South second real quick. Then I'll get to what I wanna talk about. The parking. You said on South second it just made an ordinance listed in it. It says south second. Speaker 5 01:01:13 It's, that's for the next meeting. The traffic as a answered before the traffic department is still working on it. The meeting is three weeks now. We don't have it before the meeting. You just listed on the agenda because the traffic department asked us to. Speaker 8 01:01:27 Okay, so what I'm asking you, are you referring to the, the, how is this on the right hand side of the street? Where do they park in the driveway? I assume, but you're gonna tell 'em they can't park on that street at all. Council president, I made several the houses have parking behind them in the flats. That's where they're technically supposed to be parked. And yeah, I, that's the flat. But there's six houses from the flat going toward Rock Avenue, Mayor, the six houses that goes from the flats to Rock Avenue. You're telling them they can't park, he's on the street. Right. I think there's no parking now. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, it might be missing to sign. Sign. There's no parking at any time. And there's a concern that the neighbors, like for instance, he got, he was working on his house three months ago and he had to put his little trailer in front of his house and he got ticketed. I'm quite sure when he ran the plate, it came back to his house. Speaker 5 01:02:34 Mayor counsel. I think I'm looking at just the police department's recommendation. I'm not looking at the ordinance. So I, I, I think it, it's conditional to my review of that, but I think this is just amending the street name because I think the street name on the ordinance, it's not actually changing the parking, the parking lights. But I, I'll confirm that once I review the ordinance. Speaker 0 01:03:00 So essentially what, where they cannot park now is just staying the same. Yeah. Speaker 5 01:03:04 Okay. Yes. Speaker 0 01:03:06 What, what was the Speaker 8 01:03:07 Other item, Mr. Gross? I don't, ISS items. I don't even know. Where are we with the coyote captain? So my businessman, Speaker 5 01:03:21 All the, all the complaints that you gave me, we passed on to the police and the police have passed on to the state. Speaker 8 01:03:27 So what, as I speak to you today, have we captured you? Yes. No. Maybe so. Speaker 5 01:03:35 Not as far as I know. We also haven't received any complaints, I Speaker 8 01:03:40 Believe in the last six weeks. And we find out, did we cast it? Yeah. The next in, I know you told me hay was going to get read, done. Approximate commit. I, Speaker 3 01:03:54 Council president, if I may, Mr. Herrera received the proposals for the engineering to, so at some point Curtis will be on the agenda here to have an word of contract to an engineering firm To start to engineer. Speaker 8 01:04:07 So Speaker 0 01:04:08 It'll probably be on for within the next two months, three months. Yeah. Alright. Speaker 8 01:04:13 One more serious note. Now I need to know what is law or what is protocol when you have a police chase at the scandal? Speaker 0 01:04:25 The question, Speaker 8 01:04:27 Excuse me. The Speaker 3 01:04:29 Very complicated Speaker 8 01:04:29 Legal question. Attorney general Speaker 3 01:04:31 Prosecutor has guidelines. Speaker 0 01:04:33 The attorney general in the Speaker 8 01:04:35 County has a book on it. Well, let me explain my situation then Maybe next meeting you can gimme a more classified answer. On Friday, I wasn't home. I was told that I was report to my attention. Speaker 3 01:04:52 The stop sign's already been put Speaker 8 01:04:53 Back up. Yeah, thank you Curtis. I don't think no one would've put it back up if I didn't call. There was a police chase from fourth Street down Hazelwood, the gentleman, I don't know, stolen car, whatever. Anyway, he ran down Hazelwood, tried to take the corner at third and Mist and removed the stop sign that just in front of my house. I also want to know who's going to pay for the repair my lawn that he destroyed. Now the issue I have is, this was done by Nel Police. I have a, a witness that saw this. He was going down Hazelwood and he saw the car coming at a high rate of speed and he pulled over by the park. Two minutes later he saw Dannel coming with his lights on, stay there. So I assume he supposed to tell the scatter way or do something with the scatter wheel. Speaker 0 01:06:04 Mr. Grubbs, your time is up, but I'm gonna suggest is that maybe Mr. Dacey takes some information down. Maybe we can pass that on to Archie. What you Speaker 5 01:06:12 Should do is you should file a police report. Speaker 8 01:06:16 Done. Speaker 5 01:06:17 Okay. And then take that police report and turn it into your homeowner's insurance for your coverage. And they would probably, but they will sell against the driver. Speaker 0 01:06:31 Catch Speaker 8 01:06:32 Didn't Speaker 0 01:06:32 Catch Speaker 5 01:06:33 Catch, didn't Speaker 8 01:06:34 Catch. So what I want to know is what I need to know. Isn't it law that they supposed to require to tell Piscataway that they're doing this? Yes or no? That's easy. I think it is. But what it either on that I, I appreciate the other two minutes you giving. Why is it that, Speaker 0 01:06:55 Mr. Gross, you have to be fair to everyone else who I cut off. I do. Okay. What? You know. No, you gonna be fair, right? You gonna Speaker 8 01:07:02 Be fair? I'm just gonna have the time myself and everybody. Okay. But appreciate the little time you gave. I appreciate Speaker 0 01:07:09 It. I'll finish it at the next, okay. Anyone else in the public wish to speak may do. So at this time please come to the podium and note that you have three minutes in which to speak. Please state your name and address. Thank you. Hi, Laura Lee Woods 1 0 2 Stratton Street South. I'm here because I'd like an update on what is happening with our symbols for winter holidays for the Township of Piscataway. I know it is something that we were not able to get to in a timely manner during the holiday season, but we certainly have plenty of time now to think about a public menorah, a public kenora, a symbol for Chinese New Year and those type of symbols to acknowledge the broad and wonderful diversity of Piscataway. Do we have any update on that? There's no update at this time, Ms. Liebowitz, but we certainly will be discussing it and with a wonderful community center coming, we certainly plan to do a little bit more around that. Speaker 0 01:08:08 Thank you. You're welcome. My second point that I'd like to bring to our attention is really just a matter of communication. I think on your end, you certainly are very uncomfortable with this dialogue because it's not really a dialogue. If we come here, we speak, you listen. But it's not really an open and comfortable forum for conversation on many of the committees that could address the very contentious and most of most important issues to the people of Piscataway. Those commissions don't meet, they meet as needed. Their members are not listed. And so this type of constant contentious situation is set up. This is not working for you, it's not working for our Township for its residents. And so I would suggest that you take ownership and creativity and look to yourselves, to other people. You certainly network with many townships around the state, county country and see what are ways that we can move forward to communicate openly, honestly, and have a dialogue that's not just a speak aade and nothing in terms of social media. You know, Facebook and Twitter, again, that's very one-sided. It's not a conversation. And so I would really encourage the council moving forward into the 21st century to really expand and examine your opportunities for fair, open, transparent and honest dialogue with your members. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 0 01:09:48 Ation to speak may do so at this time, please come to the podium, state your name and note that you have three minutes in which Speaker 5 01:09:53 To speak. Deputy Wild 2250 Plainfield Avenue North. I'm wondering if you ever have thought about holding town halls and actually having a dialogue with people. 'cause it amazes me and all the time I've come here that I've never seen one of you vote no on anything that has brought before the council. If it's taken up, it is unanimous here long enough. I've been, I'm not saying it never happens. We don't always go Greg, well Speaker 0 01:10:22 Can't see it on the camera. Speaker 5 01:10:24 Every time I've been here, which has been a number I've never seen it happen. Which kind of seems like things are pre-planned and there the public really gets no input into this. Other than elections, which A, which are machine politics, it really does not seem very democratic. So I at least town halls where you actually interacted with the Publix with people you disagree with and actually could have a, a reasonable conversation rather than this very adversarial arrangement you set up. Just doesn't, might make some sense. Thank Speaker 0 01:11:05 You Ms. Ms, I appreciate that. I just do wanna comment. We did not set up an adver adversarial site it seems. I know it may seem to, but it, we did not set that up. And everything that we do is in the public and is published and this council has in the past had many town halls. I just wanna set that ate and I'm not Speaker 5 01:11:25 Disagreeing when have Speaker 0 01:11:26 The not disagreeing with you? I don't wanna argue about it. Speaker 9 01:11:29 No, I'm just asking when has was the last town hall and how do you publish it Speaker 0 01:11:33 Be River Road town halls and stuff about River Road? Speaker 9 01:11:39 I've never seen anything is, you know, and I pay a little bit of attention. Speaker 0 01:11:43 Oh, we had a town hall on the park. The, the land that was preserved, we had a town hall on that. So in fact it does Speaker 9 01:11:52 Happen one a year, Speaker 0 01:11:55 Whatever Mr. Wild. It's not that. It does not happen. The podium. State your name and address and note that you have three minutes in which to speak. TTA Gray, three 18 River Cross Drive several times. You've mentioned that the prices of fees for the YMCA are on be posted, but you did never said where are we gonna put them up On the Township website? Speaker 5 01:12:21 Website? They'll be on Speaker 0 01:12:22 In the libraries. Speaker 5 01:12:24 Libraries on Speaker 0 01:12:25 Facebook. We'll put it here and on Facebook here. Sure. And then I think are we, are we we're gonna send something out to the residents upon opening or something like that to talk about? We'll do some sort of mailing. We're Speaker 5 01:12:38 Gonna have three, three Saturdays the end of March and two in April here, where we reach job fairs and accept membership applications of the council chambers on Saturdays. And we're, as we get closer to the opening when I can get a PCO to get extra employees into the building, the, while we do some signing up in the, probably the FO area, they have hired a facilities manager and we, and the wise got interviews next week for an executive director. Once he get the executive director on board, then he or she'll be, become very involved with the, with us. Speaker 0 01:13:14 So, so then what you're saying though is that next week on our, our Township at the end of this week, it'll it'll have the Yeah, you'll it'll be there. It'll be posted in the libraries. And also too, I think the Y has made it so that Piscataway residents will have an opportunity for a period of time to come to the community center for free on Wednesdays and Sundays. Something like to that. We'll, and that will be up there. That information will be up there too. So, you know, to encourage people to come try it out and then want to join. Okay. Can I ask her why is YMCA, is that a non-profit organization? Speaker 5 01:13:56 Yes. Yes. Speaker 0 01:13:56 Far as I know it is a nonprofit. Speaker 5 01:13:59 And the rates will also be in the March newsletters three newsletter, Speaker 0 01:14:04 Right In the newsletter Speaker 5 01:14:05 Around 15 16th of March. Speaker 0 01:14:07 And I'm not sure Ms. Gray, if you heard that, there's gonna be three, did you say three Saturdays where they'll have, where you can become a member, but you could also apply if you'd like to work at the Y two. And, and then the other question I had is, so there's been a lot of talk about this warehouse. So if those affordable housing units are not going to be built on that old New Brunswick Road because the warehouse is going there instead, where are the affordable housing units going to? They will be, we will always meet our co obligation this Township has and we'll continue to abide by its commitment that every town here in the state of New Jersey must, or else they'll, I guess be sued or find or whatever the case may be. And they're sprinkled throughout many different apartment complexes in the town. Speaker 0 01:15:06 Give you a specific location. I'm not gonna tell you because we wouldn't know until somebody decides if they have land where they can develop apartments or as properties become available. But we will always meet our obligation. Oh, so it's not 600, it's not 600 units. So this is not a building that, that the Township will be hiring somebody to build Township. Township doesn't build anything. We didn't build warehouses. We don't build, well you have a developer get them interested in coming and building a a building. It doesn't work like that. It's somebody else's, it's somebody else's property. It's somebody else's property. They're out marketing that property based upon zoning and that's how that works. And that property, originally the owner had 600 units he was gonna build with mixed retail. We were all very much in favor of that. And they decided not to do it. Speaker 0 01:16:05 And it didn't work out for him. It, it did not become viable for an owner of a property who owned it from the eighties who had to remediate the land up to standard. And so this use is a very good use. I know that there is a second of people who don't agree with that. But there are also other residents in this town who do appreciate the fact that by having businesses including this kind of logistics office will help. And I do believe that there was a statement made about some of the money not being eligible to go to the schools. But correct me if I'm wrong, they, the school will get some of that money. Do you have a certain time period where you have to meet this obligation for these affordable housing? You know, within a certain amount of years you have. We're in concurrent compliance. We, we have more than enough units right now in our affordable housing plan, which was approved by and for Speaker 4 01:17:08 10. Now I have that 600 homes and I, I don't, I don't want to miss state the number, but it's a percentage. It might be 10% toward the 612. So it's 20 20%. So we have, we have more than enough for affordable housing units in our master class. Speaker 0 01:17:26 And it's good Councilman for the next 10 years. Our plan, what we have now keeps us compliant for at least the next 10 years I believe. So what this counsel has done in the past, if I may, is we've always looked ahead again, that use originally planned there. We're like good, we're gonna be good for X amount of years. Somebody's making developing apartments, then we're compliant. We will never not be in compliance. Do already existing apartment houses, buildings have to give over some of their units to affordable housing? No. You know, like I see, I see what you're saying. With brand new ones that are being billed, a certain percentage has to go. But what about existing ones? No. Do you have to do that in order to meet that? We do not have to force that. So you're just anticipating that there will be enough builders. We're in compliance and we are for at least the next 10 years, Speaker 4 01:18:27 An expert in that. We have a massive plan and I can, I have seen you, I can't detail, but we've got more than enough to cover us for the next decade to Speaker 0 01:18:39 Ms. Gray, you are three minutes. Alright, thank you very much. Anyone else in the public wishing to comment may do so at this time, please come to the podium. State your name and address and note that you have three minutes in which to speak. Seeing none, I'm closing the public portion. Speaker 1 01:18:56 Council Speaker 3 01:18:57 President, council p very brief comments. Speaker 0 01:19:03 This is not on Speaker 1 01:19:04 The agenda. This is not on the agenda. You do this every time. Council on the agenda, the agenda. Can we get the ordinance of control, Ms. Berger? Mr. May. Speaker 3 01:19:14 Okay. Just as genesis of the piece of property in question for those of us who, who were born and raised in Speaker 1 01:19:23 This community, or you only hear us, you only hear us. You only hear her shut. Speaker 0 01:19:30 I'm sorry folks. I I think there's some people in having an an argument back there. I just, I just wanna talk about what the genesis of the Speaker 3 01:19:39 Property Speaker 0 01:19:39 Be. Very expensive. That particular Speaker 3 01:19:41 Property, the, the site in question has been zoned light industrial for over 70 years. 70 years For those of us that grew up in the community. It used to be the old union steel fabrication site. Yes. Obviously that T school, that company school, it was that that company went under obviously with the fabrication steel leading the US so to speak, back in the early seventies as remained dormant a white industrial site for a number of years. Obviously it was a Brownsfield site contaminated site that has now been cleaned up by the prior owner. It was zoned for part of our cohousing there. But, you know, that didn't work out. And warehousing and logistics center was always a permitted use on that site. And all of our zonings throughout our community where there's, where there's light industrial or commercial warehouses are permitted and have been permitted for more than 60 years in our community. So to have some folks out here to suggest that we shouldn't allow that means that we would condemn that property. Now if we condemn that Speaker 1 01:20:51 Property, right, like, like the park Speaker 3 01:20:51 That somebody mentioned, that's right. You're talking 50 plus million dollars that the town would have to show out 'cause you would be basically condemning the property. I know that there's some folks that are upset about it. Well, that's their prerogative. But I would like to also reiterate that there's gonna be a lot of infrastructure improvements that are gonna come along. We're gonna get several million dollars worth of roadway and safety improvements out there. There'll be a true four-way intersection. There'll be curbs and sidewalks on both sides of old New Brunswick Road and on Roma Boulevard right out there seven, they're gonna do an ancillary on the bridge, right? So there, there's gonna be a lot of safety improvements that are gonna be out there that haven't been out there in the past that the local taxpayers are not gonna have to pick up. And by the way, as you said, council president before, there may be some job availability out there, whatever new company that may or may move into that site. Speaker 3 01:21:46 So to have some people get up there and say, well, we're, we're permitting all this stuff. Well, if you're, if you're telling a property owner that has been property that's been zoned that way for 60 plus years, that they now can't develop their property in accordance with the zoning guidelines of the town, you're condemning the property, which means the government has to pay for it. Right? I, which I disagree. I would never suggest that discounts will go in and condemn that property and pay $50 million of taxpayers money. We have a lot of roads and infrastructure that needs to be fixed within this community. And I think this was a wise decision by the council to do this. And I, I get it that there's some housing advocates here that are upset about this because there's not gonna be 600 apartments there. You, they can't have Speaker 1 01:22:35 Both ways. You can't say it's 600 units and then not 600 units. Let the, we're Speaker 3 01:22:41 Gonna finish this up because Mrs. Speaker 1 01:22:49 All those in favor say aye. A also your housing plan is only good through 2025. So you might check the good job. Thank you.