Transcript for Piscataway Zoning meeting on January 23 2025
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Speaker 0 00:00:05 The zoning board of adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the Coer News notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal Building notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the Coer News and the star ledger. Will the clerk please call the roll? Speaker 1 00:00:22 Mr. Weisman? Here. Mr. Tillery? Here. Mr. Patel Kalpesh. Mr. Regio? Here. Mr. Heka? Here. Mr. Mitterando? Here. Mr. Riley? Here. And Chairman Cahill. Here, Speaker 0 00:00:43 Will everyone please stand for a salute to the flag pledge allegiance Speaker 1 00:00:50 To Speaker 0 00:00:50 The flag. To the flag of the United States of America and to the and to the Republic for which it stands. Nation One Nation under God, liberty and justice for all. Mr. Kinneally, are there any changes to tonight's agenda? Speaker 2 00:01:06 Yes, there are. The application of On Switch 51 New England Avenue is adjourned until March 27th, 2024 with no further notice by the applicant. The application of Francis Resco 1 35 Stelton Road has been withdrawn and will not be heard. Those are all the changes that I have. Speaker 0 00:01:26 Thank you, sir. Let's start out with item number 6 24 dash ZB dash 83 V. New singular wireless. Speaker 2 00:01:35 Mr. Quinn, are you present? Speaker 3 00:01:37 I'm here for Mr. Quinn Gabriel Halpern of Pinellas Halper. Ready to proceed on behalf of new singular wireless, which everyone probably knows better as at and t. This, this, this is an application for an interpretation and waiver of site plan for 1 51 West Ethel Road. It's an existing tower that we're going to be looking to remove six antennas installed, four new antennas, so we will actually be reducing the number of antennas on the tower from 12 to six. The application calls for no additional height. There's certain equipment that's going to be replaced and upgraded, but there will be no changes to any of the structures, no increases in height, and we are replacing eight radio heads. We have submitted an E-M-F-F-C-C report as well as a structural analysis report and shows that there will be no change on the site as to the operation of the site. Speaker 2 00:02:52 Mr. Chairman, I've reviewed the submissions of the applicant and I concur with Mr. Halpern's representations. There is the FCC report, there is the structural report. There do not appear to be any new variances created by this proposed work. Speaker 0 00:03:06 Thank you, Mr. Kenley. Any other members of the board have any questions for this application? Any comments? Hearing none? I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this ation? Speaker 1 00:03:20 No. One chairman. Speaker 0 00:03:21 Okay. Hearing now, I'm gonna close the public portion. I'll make a motion to approve this application. I'll second it. Thank you. Call the roll. Speaker 1 00:03:28 Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Riley? Yes. And Chairman Cahill? Speaker 0 00:03:39 Yes. Speaker 2 00:03:40 Mr. Halper. We'll memorialize this at our next meeting. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Speaker 0 00:03:45 Have a good evening, sir. Let's move on to item number 7 22 dash zb dash 1 0 1 slash 1 0 2 V 4 2 9 Bell Street. Speaker 2 00:03:55 Mr. Friends, are you present? Speaker 4 00:03:57 Good evening. Eric Fr. Simon Law Group on behalf of the applicants 4 29 Bell Street. Speaker 2 00:04:04 Go ahead Mr. Fr. Speaker 4 00:04:06 This is an application for a use variance. The applicant 4 29 Bell Street is a wholesaler operating out of a non-conforming district. We seek it has, it had, it has operated for a number of years. It was stretching over 20 years recently brought to his attention. That is non-conforming use. We seek to have the, the use, the current use approved through D variance, use variance. I have before me, Lyle will let the representative of the applicant 4 29 Bell Street, along with our planner, he should be on here and our engineer as well. Speaker 2 00:05:07 Now you were before the board back in November, is that correct? Speaker 4 00:05:11 November? Yes. Yes. Speaker 2 00:05:12 And in November at that meeting you addressed most of the professional's reports from Piscataway? Speaker 4 00:05:20 Yes. There were some outstanding issues. There were. And then the, the town issued a supplemental, supplemental report or supplemental requests based on their visit with the 4 29 Bell Street's applicant or representative Mr. Ette. Okay. Speaker 2 00:05:50 So there's no, there's no reason for you to go over all the testimony from November, so you should, should just address the unanswered issues or the new issues. Speaker 4 00:06:00 Very good, thank you. So I would call Mr. Ette. Speaker 2 00:06:06 Mr. Ette, you were sworn in to tell the truth at the last hearing. You remain sworn in to tell the truth. Please identify yourself for the record. Speaker 5 00:06:13 My name is Lyle Willette. I live in Hackettstown, New Jersey. Speaker 2 00:06:18 Thank you. Speaker 4 00:06:22 So thank you. Mr. Willette, you had an opportunity to meet with individuals from Piscataway Township back in December, is that correct? Speaker 5 00:06:34 Yes. Speaker 4 00:06:36 And they issued some requests or directives regarding the, the site that you had an opportunity to review? Speaker 5 00:06:47 Yes. Speaker 4 00:06:49 I'd like to go over that with you. The specifically for what? Four, two, what, what you as a representative can do and or represent for the company. The town said that the damaged curbing, especially the depressed curb at the parking lot entrance will need to be replaced and repairs will not be acceptable in, in place of a replacement. If we could, if you could address that issue. Speaker 5 00:07:21 Yeah, we need somebody from, from the town on that to come and, and show us, you know, what areas that do need to be replaced in their opinion. I did walk it with, you know, their representative and, you know, we saw a few places, but he said he wasn't the one that would be making that decision. So I'm gonna need somebody else to, to kind of show us what to do and, and you know, that stuff we're, we're gonna, we're gonna address. Speaker 4 00:07:54 Okay. There was also discussion of requirement for landscaped screening along the back of the structure that may be substituted for a mix of different types of plants to supplement the vegs vegetation. Speaker 5 00:08:13 Yeah, so we, we settled on doing Arbor Bides eight foot on center. We're actually going to cut the asphalt in one of the areas that it was asphalted all the way up to the existing fence. So we're gonna go ahead and, and cut that asphalt and put some plants there. I'm sorry, someone have a question? No, it's a call. Oh, okay. And so the, the, the only thing that seems to be kind of one thing we don't want to do really is to put plantings be actually between the building, building and the fence. It's about a 15 foot area that it, it's not gonna serve any purpose to put plants back there. We don't operate anything back there. There's no machinery back there. There is some existing plants and that stuff that are hanging on by a thread. So it, it's, it's just not a great place to put plants. There's no sun back there. So what, what I would like to do is do plants from the corners of the buildings of the building, the east and west corner out to the property line with plants. Speaker 0 00:09:41 Okay. Just for a second, Mr. Friends, let me try and expedite this a little bit if I could. Sure. Jonathan, who works for the township has a list, the same list you're reading, you're going in a different order. If Jonathan could just go through the five bullets that he issued here on the report. I dated December 18th. I think we can expedite this because he is only gonna proffer testimony after your expert to either go back and forth. I, I don't feel like going through each one of these items twice. No, that's, so let, that's let my expert Jonathan Rahi come on address what he wants and his requirements and what he's asking for the township. And then you can address that or you have your expert Mr. Have Lyle address it after that. So Jonathan here, are you here? Speaker 7 00:10:25 Yes. Thank you Mr. Chairman. So following following my meeting with Mr. Ette, 18th of December, we had several follow-up conversations internally with staff, which generated some of these comments that are in this memo. We were very willing to compromise on the location of the dumpster, essentially allowing them to remain where they are on site, just formalizing that enclosure and making up the parking elsewhere on site. We feel comfortable with this being a condition of approval. The second point we looked Mr. Ette and I observed the curbing on site. Following that conversation on site, I spoke with the supervisor of engineering and that is when we identified specifically all the depressed curbs at the entrance that's damaged needs to be replaced, not repaired. So that is coming not from myself but from the director of engineering as a direct result of our conversation. Mr. Roulette, following that site inspection, there was also clarification on the policies with the township sidewalk fund. A sidewalk must be installed here along the frontage. Secondly, the landscape plan that your expert provided or sketched rather during the November meeting was rather heavily screened. The compromise that we discussed during that December 18th site visit was that we could supplement the existing landscaping with some additional plantings out there. Not necessarily the full extent that your expert provided, but a compromise that would still provide some screening. And then lastly, exactly what Mr. Ette said, he would comply with reducing some of the asphalt area and replacing that with a more dense evergreen screen to screen the storage enclosure areas. Thank you. So yes, Speaker 0 00:12:29 Please close up. Close it up. Speaker 7 00:12:31 Oh, so if the applicant is willing to condition the approval of the items in this report, provide us an updated site plan with updated details that are also requested in the October 18th staff memorandum, we'd be able to move this application along and bring it to a vote Speaker 0 00:12:51 Vote. I I agree wholehearted, Speaker 8 00:12:53 Mr. Chairman, I apologize for being late. Was there a discussion, discussion on lighting? Speaker 2 00:13:00 No, there hasn't been. Speaker 8 00:13:03 I did discuss it with this applicant. What is the position on the outdoor lighting now? Speaker 5 00:13:11 And so the, the outdoor lighting, we're removing what is in that storage area that we have and we're gonna put shrouds up on the, there's, you know, some nighttime lights that we have shining from the building into those storage areas and we're gonna put some shrouds on them to prevent that from shining into the residents houses. Speaker 8 00:13:35 How about the old freestanding ones? Are you gonna Speaker 5 00:13:37 Remove them? They're coming down. Yeah, that's all coming down. Speaker 8 00:13:40 So there'll be no parking lot lights. There'll be wall mounted lights with screens. Speaker 5 00:13:48 Yes. Speaker 8 00:13:48 Okay. That's And that, would you have any other, the other subjects were discussed. I was here while you were doing that. Speaker 0 00:13:56 That's okay. Thank you John. Appreciate it. Mr. Willette, after the testimony of Mr. Ms. Rahi, do you have any issues with every point that he came out with? 'cause if you don't, I think we can push this along and get you guys the approval you want Speaker 5 00:14:12 I, the, the, the sidewalk I'd like our planter to speak to. That's okay. Speaker 0 00:14:21 Okay. Hey Speaker 5 00:14:21 Mark. Speaker 0 00:14:25 Mr. Friends, put on your, so we Speaker 4 00:14:27 Have a, our planner, mark Resa, he was not previously, presently sworn, so he, he would have to be sworn, but he's currently here. Speaker 2 00:14:39 Mr. Resa, are you here? I am. Okay. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? I do. Your name and address please. My name is Speaker 9 00:14:50 Mark a Resa, R-E-M-S-A address is 10 DeBerry Court out Laurel, New Jersey. Speaker 2 00:15:00 Thank you. Speaker 9 00:15:01 You're welcome. Speaker 4 00:15:05 So Mr. Resa, if you could just give the board just a little background on your qualifications. Speaker 9 00:15:12 Yes, I am in New Jersey. I'm a licensed professional planner and a landscape architect. I've been in those fields for over 45 years. I currently serve three municipalities as their planner. I've also appeared before New Jersey Superior Court as a professional planner. Sir, your Speaker 4 00:15:36 Your qualifications, your qualifications are fine. We can proceed. Speaker 9 00:15:40 Thank you. Speaker 4 00:15:40 Thank you. So Mr. Resa, if you could just address the, the curb, not the curbing, I'm sorry, the sidewalk that is pretty much essentially holding up this Speaker 2 00:15:52 Mr. Friends, you are also here for a use variance. I think we need use variance testimony from the planner. Speaker 4 00:15:58 Yes, no, absolutely. Speaker 9 00:16:01 So yes, I, i I certainly understand the importance of having sidewalks and the complete streets concept for municipalities, but, but we have to look at the, the application of, of where sidewalks go in terms of the context of the area that they're located. So when I visited Bell Street, I noticed that of course it's, it's a dead end street. There's, there's only a few uses that really gain access. At the end of the street is that multi-tenanted light industrial building and there are no other sidewalks anywhere in, in along Bell Street. There's, there's a, a vacant wooded lot, there's a construction yard with storage. And so what I did was I looked at New Jersey Transit's bus lines because sometimes you can have public transportation that would provide pedestrians to, to, to their jobs. So in this case though, the closest bus line is a new market area and I looked at the Google maps to see the length of time it would be to walk there. Speaker 9 00:17:21 So the closest is roughly an hour's walking distance away. So when I looked at the uses that are on Bell Street, there are no pedestrian traffic generators at all. It, it's a, it's a dead end street and most of the traffic, all of the traffic actually is all vehicular base. So in this case, if I were to look at the application of complete streets for, for sidewalks, they're really not would be warranted on, on Bell Street. So that, that, that was my review of, of the application of of of, of putting a a, a sidewalk along Bell Street. Speaker 5 00:18:05 And could you also speak about the conduit? Speaker 9 00:18:09 Well, the con the conduit, I know there's a request to put a conduit. I, I couldn't find anywhere in the words that required the, the, the, an applicant provide a conduit and, and generally my experience is con conduits are installed by the utility companies because they have the specific specifications for, for conduit if, if they're going to have one for any kind of underground utility. So I, I'm unsure why, why you, the applicant would be required to put a conduit along along your property. Speaker 4 00:18:51 Okay. Could you also address the, you know, we're here seeking also a use variance if you would indeed, indeed address that indeed for the the board. Speaker 9 00:19:01 Yeah, so I am going to provide you the background and then the proofs for, for the use variance. I I don't wanna belabor this. I'm, I'm sure the board members are very familiar with, with the property. Just just to recap, the surrounding land uses to the north are, are the single family homes to the east is a wooded wooded lot across Bell Street to the south is is a very large construction yard with storage of equipment and material. And at the very end is that multi-tenanted light industrial use. So, so the, the character of of the surrounding area is principally light, light industry and looking at the use variance. Yes, when I looked at the ordinance, wholesaling is not specifically permitted in the zone in the LI one zone, however, retail is permitted as long as it doesn't exceed 5% of the gross floor area. In this case the, there's a little 150 square foot area that that may serve some retail component of, of the operation and that's well below the 5%. So A actually meets the conditional use aspect in the LI zone. Speaker 9 00:20:34 So let me go to the jump right to the proofs. You know, the positive and negative criteria are important for the application. So in terms of the positive criteria, there has to be special reasons for granting this. And so we look to the municipal land use law and section NJSA 40 55 D dash two and then what I'm gonna talk, speak to are the, the small letters of the paragraphs that I believe apply to this application. So first one would be G and that's provide sufficient space and appropriate locations for variety of uses in this case industrial uses are cited in, in the law and certainly the property's been used as a industrial site for many decades. And also the proposed use fits into a light industrial type type of use, which is essentially the wholesaling of, of the irrigation products. Next one is I to promote a desirable visual environment. Speaker 9 00:21:39 We just heard extensively about how, how the appearance of the and screening of the property is going to be enhanced. That that doesn't need to be belabored J is to prevent urban sprawl and the degradation of the environment. Here we're reusing an existing developed property that's been an enlightened industrial use. So, so reusing that rather than building a new building helps prevent the urban sprawl. And then m is encouraged the more efficient use of land and certainly reusing the property for this light industrial use. Does that and then I come back to a, which is, given all the foregoing factors, it certainly would promote the public health safety, morals and ger general welfare in types of, in terms of the other part of the positive criteria site suitability, does this site demonstrate that it's particularly suited for the proposed use? And I would say that it does, it's been used as a light industrial use, very small building. Speaker 9 00:22:45 The type of use here doesn't require a very large building. And also the, the limited outdoor storage that's, that's required the site can provide and it can accommodate the parking demand even though there's a variance there's from your ordinance for parking, certainly the number of employees are very low and the number of visitors to the site is also very low. And, and so, and also the, the area's already been paved on the outdoor for, for outdoor storage. The next one is negative criteria. We have to look at does this proposal accrue any substantial detriment to the public good. We have to look at the effects it has on surrounding land uses to the north or the residences and and certainly this use could have an impact on them. However, with the enhanced landscaping and screening certainly diminish any kind of negative impact from that to the east is a a wooded lot, there's no impact there to the south is that construction yard no impact. Speaker 9 00:24:02 And to the west, which is the multi-tenanted building, industrial building, I see no negative impact there either reconciled with the master plan. Not to belabor this, but I did review the professionals reports and they cited in there that indeed this kind of use is contemplated for this kind of light industrial use is is contemplated in this area. So I would say that it reconciles with the master plan. So in conclusion I believe that this promotes the purposes of MS Mal law AC the sites particularly suited for it crews know sub substantial negative detriment and also it does not substantially impair the intent and purpose of the zone plan and zoning ordinance. So tho those would be the proofs for the use variance. Mr. Chairman, Speaker 0 00:24:55 Thank you for your testimony. I don't think we have a problem with the use variance, however I would like our expert to chime in again on the conduit and the need to have fully replaced sidewalks. So Jonathan, if you could help us out. Speaker 7 00:25:07 Certainly. So Mr. Resa, thank you for your testimony. I would direct you to the zoning zoning chapter of our ordinance, specifically section six 14. That's where we discuss fiber optic conduit in detail. It's at the discretion of the planning and zoning board at the direction of the supervisor of engineering. If there is a hardship, which it does not sound like there is, that's something that can be discussed in further offline with the director of engineering. And then in regards to sidewalks, I think I I I would defer to the, I would defer to the the board on their opinion. However our code, again section 7 1 3 of the zoning chapter states that pedestrian sidewalks shall be provided along both sides of all new streets and in locations wherever normal pedestrian traffic will occur. We can't assume because it's a dead end street that there won't be pedestrians. Again, that's my professional opinion. I'll defer to the board for their vote on this matter. But those are my, my opinion on those two points. Mr. Chairman, Speaker 0 00:26:22 Thank you Johnson. I appreciate it. Mr. Finn, do you wanna wrap it up? Speaker 8 00:26:27 If I could just make one comment. The John the sidewalk issue is, it's like when do you start The fact that there is none in in the immediate vicinity doesn't mean you won't ever need them and that's always I think been the policy of the township. Speaker 0 00:26:45 Thank you John. I appreciate it. Speaker 4 00:26:48 Well then I would just ask I guess again Mr. Willette, if he is willing or able to accommodate these requests that we can get the, you know, potentially get approval on this application? Speaker 5 00:27:03 Yeah we are. We are going to do what the board decides. Yes. Speaker 0 00:27:08 Okay, let me chime in here just for a second. This board relies heavily upon the testimony and the expertise of someone like Mr. Rahi and John Chadwick. 99% of the time we vote along the parameters in the guidelines they provide us. So if you can't agree to the five bullets that we just went over and and the expert testimony that was provided, I think that you could have a good outcome with tonight's vote. That's the last thing I'll say. Speaker 5 00:27:35 Okay Speaker 2 00:27:36 Mr. Chairman, we do need to open including, Speaker 8 00:27:38 Including I, including the elimination of the parking lot lights. Speaker 2 00:27:44 Yes, that would be included as a condition Speaker 8 00:27:46 That wasn't one of the five points, that's why I Speaker 0 00:27:48 Mentioned it. Oh, thank you John. I apologize. Yeah, you brought that up and it was offline. Okay, any other members of the board have any questions or comments about this application? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? Speaker 1 00:28:05 No one chairman, Speaker 0 00:28:06 Thank you. Close the public portion and I'd make a motion to approve this application with the testimony that was promoted provided tonight. Can I get a second? Yes. I'll second it. Thank you. Please call the role Speaker 1 00:28:17 Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Regie? Yes. Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Riley? Yes. And Chairman Cahill? Speaker 0 00:28:29 Yes. Speaker 2 00:28:30 The application has been approved. We will memorialize it in our at our next meeting in a written document and send that document to you. Good luck. Speaker 5 00:28:37 Thank you. Thank the Speaker 0 00:28:38 Board for the time. Thank you gentlemen. Speaker 5 00:28:39 Thank you very much. Speaker 0 00:28:40 Let's move on to item number 9 24 dash ZB dash 57 V 900 East 92nd Street, LLC. Excuse me. Speaker 11 00:28:56 Good evening. Donna Jennings for the record from Alliance Goldman Spit on behalf of the applicant. Speaker 2 00:29:00 Evening, Speaker 0 00:29:02 Good evening Don. Speaker 11 00:29:03 Good evening. Would you like me to begin? Speaker 2 00:29:07 Yes please, please Speaker 0 00:29:08 Proceed. Sorry. Speaker 11 00:29:09 Thank you. As the board is aware, the applicant is here this evening seeking preliminary and final major site plan approval with one bulk variance and one design waiver to construct a three story approximately 127,000 200 722 square feet cell storage facility with related site improvements on property located at 1659 South Washington Avenue and identified as block 5 6 0 1 blocks 2.05 on the township's tax map, the property is located in the R 20 zone on approximately 3.72 acres. Self storage is not a permitted use in the R 20 zone. However as the board may recall it granted a prior applicant a use variance to permit permit a self storage use on the property at the same size square footage. The board also granted several bulk variances respect to one minimum number of parking spaces, two, maximum building height, three maximum parking setback from a residential zone and four maximum building coverage. Speaker 11 00:30:14 The applicant is entitled to rely on the use and bulk variances as they previously they run with the land. This app application subsequently follows as a second half of the bifurcated application to construct a proposed self storage facility. The applicant further request one new bulk variance related to the maximum permitted fence height in a residential zone. It records it requires a fence situated on top of a retaining wall that combined will exceed the ordinance maximum of six feet. And the applicant also requires one design waiver relief with respect to providing an access driveway to a non permitted use in a residential zone. Whereas a self-storage facility is not a permitted use and is located in a residential zone. The record will reflect that the applicant satisfies the positive and the negative criteria required to grant the variance. The proposal furthers multiple purposes of municipal land use law including a promoting the general welfare G providing sufficient space and appropriate locations for a variety of uses including commercial and I to promote a desirable visual environment. Speaker 11 00:31:25 The record will also further reflect that the applicant satisfies a traditional negative criteria which requires the applicant to demonstrate that the proposal if granted will not one, create a substantial detriment to the public good and two will not substantially impair the intent or purpose of the zone plan and zoning ordinance. This board is already ruled that this site is particularly well suited for a self storage use. The variance requested will allow a combined fence and retaining wall to be installed, thereby increasing the safety of the property. The increased height will not have an adverse effect on the surrounding properties or the zoning ordinance. The property is located nearby, other commercial uses and granting the relief will not add substantial noise, traffic, odors or other negative effects to the community. In support of the application, the applicant will rely on the three witnesses. Josh Ald who is the engineer and professional planner, Louis Vander LT who is our architect and Craig gui, traffic engineer. Just as a matter of record keeping, I did want to acknowledge that the applicant has received and reviewed the following reports, a report from your division of engineering dated December 3rd, 2024, a report from the Public Works Department review dated December 6th, 2024, the Dolan and Dean traffic review letter dated January 9th, 2025 and the Delaware Routing Engineering review letter dated January 23rd, 2025. So with that if we could have our first witness brought up and sworn in, we can begin our testimony. Speaker 2 00:33:03 Who is the first witness? Speaker 11 00:33:04 It's gonna be Josh ald. He's right there. Mr. Speaker 2 00:33:07 Ald, are you present? Speaker 12 00:33:09 I am, yes sir. Speaker 2 00:33:10 Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? I Speaker 12 00:33:15 Do. Speaker 2 00:33:15 Your name and address please? Speaker 12 00:33:17 Josh Seewald, S-E-W-A-L-D from Dynamic Engineering Consultants. My address is 1904 Main Street in Lake Cuomo, New Jersey 0 7 7 1 9. Thank Speaker 2 00:33:27 You. Speaker 11 00:33:28 If you could, Josh, for the benefit of the board, please give your background and qualifications Speaker 12 00:33:32 Certainly and thank you Donna. Good to see you again. I have a Bachelor's of Science and a Master's of Science in Civil Engineering. I've testified before over a hundred land use boards in New Jersey. I last testified in Piscataway in January of 2020 in April of 2020. But it's good to be back here and I'm a partner at Dynamic Engineering Consultants. Speaker 11 00:33:49 And you're testifying both as a professional engineer and planner? That's Speaker 12 00:33:53 Correct. Speaker 11 00:33:53 And would the board accept his qualifications? Please Speaker 12 00:33:56 Proceed. Speaker 11 00:33:56 Thank you so much. If you could, Josh, just for the record, describe the existing site conditions and if you're gonna rely on any exhibits. I think they've been pre-marked, Speaker 12 00:34:06 I do believe if they're not, Speaker 11 00:34:07 You could please. Speaker 12 00:34:09 No problem. I'm going to share my screen shortly. Lemme know if I can get a thumbs up from someone that you can see. Thumbs Speaker 11 00:34:21 Up we see your screen. Yep. Speaker 12 00:34:23 Fantastic. So this is the aerial map exhibit. I do believe we provided it to the board. It's prepared by my office It it also is very similar to sheet two of the record civil drawings. Basically what this exhibit is is an aerial map outline in the property so we can go through the existing conditions for orientation purposes 'cause I'm not standing before you in person. To the left side of your screen is to the north, to the south side is to the south. The bold yellow line is the actual property boundary. The dotted yellow line that you see in the center of the map is approximately the 200 foot property owners list. And then the light blue color are the different zone lines over the existing property. As Donna mentioned in her opening, of course the property is block 56 0 1 lot 2.05. The address is 1659 South Washington Avenue, which is also a Middlesex County route of 6 6 5. Speaker 12 00:35:15 It's approximately 3.72 acres in size and out there today there is two existing curb cuts. If you've been to the property or have driven past it in, in your time in Piscataway, you'll see that there are a couple of residential dwellings out there and other residential and shed like features that will be completely removed. Should this board vote favorably this evening to the north of our property again, which is to the left side of our plan. You'll see Dottie's Creek and then you will see the Piscataway Town center to the south of our parcel is hundreds of linear feet of woods and then you'll see a landscape yard and area and business to the south to the east of us is additional woods and un undevelopable area due to the stream. But located between the SC zone and R 20 to the west and across south Washington Avenue, which is at the bottom of the exhibit that's before you is an existing warehouse that's out there today. Speaker 12 00:36:10 So overall you see that we're surrounded by commercial industrial uses to the south of us is a a landscape yard and it's, it's looking for us to talk about these site plan improvements with the prior use variance as, as Donna mentioned, and I don't wanna belabor the board, waste your time, but application 23, ZB 24 did permit a use variance for this project and multiple bulk variances. I'm happy to report that none of the bulk variances that were approved are being modified with this application tonight. What I'd like to do then is flip over to my site plan rendering, which is currently on the screen. So same orientation to the left of the street is to the north, to the right is to the south. It's much more zoomed in so everyone on the board can see what we're proposing. You'll see South Washington Avenue is at the bottom of the plan that's running in the north south direction. Speaker 12 00:37:05 This is the site plan overlaid onto the landscape plan from the record civil drawings and then colored for tonight's presentation purposes. What you will see from the prior approval is that essentially we took the same building size, same number of spaces, which I'll get into the details shortly. And we made it parallel with South Washington Avenue. So what we're proposing for this evening is a three story climate control class, a modern self storage facility that will total approximately 127,000 square feet. That building is located in orange color box that you see on the plan. Everything else surrounding the building in light gray is the parking aisle and the drive aisles. And then outside of those areas you'll see various different colors of green and that's existing woods and the new landscaping that we'll be discussing this evening. Again, as Donna mentioned in her nice opening, the youth variance runs with the land and the only two relief that we're seeking, which I'll get into shortly, is the size of the fence and then a design waiver associated with the driveway. Speaker 12 00:38:13 Overall, the intent and purpose of the site plan layout again is to match that prior approval. One of the main reasons we mirrored the former layout made it parallel with South Washington Avenue is based on the grading and the drainage of the property, which I will get into shortly as well. Operations is always very important. We are going to comply with the conditions of the prior approval. However, just to reiterate them for the record, based on the new applicant's business operations, the facility will be open from 6:00 AM to 10:00 PM and our customers, once they're leased up, will have either a key fob or a key code to be able to enter the facility. However, there will be office hours operating between 9:00 AM in a box, 6:30 PM Monday to Friday. Saturdays and Sundays we're usually open half day 9:00 AM to 1:00 PM approximately two employees will be able to run this facility. Speaker 12 00:39:03 Although it's 122,000 square feet, the office is pretty small and really that one person is helping leasing up units, loading and deliveries. We have, and you'll see in the architectural drawings coming up shortly from my colleague Lewis, that there is a covered loading area as well as a large 30 by 150 foot striped area on the northern facade of the building. My cursor, I'll put the hand so it's a little bit more clear referencing the site plan rendering and 30 by 150 feet of stripe loading. In addition to that, there's 10 foot loading striped area around the building and that's associated with our drive-up units. Lastly, we want to confirm that there's no outdoor storage. All of our storage is located inside the building, whether in driving units roll up doors or inside to our interior units. And of course our facility will have security with cameras on the outside as well as the inside area of offices, loading spaces and the hallways, but they will not be located within the units. Speaker 12 00:40:08 Overall, this is a traditional self storage layout. Nothing too fancy about it. We have a right in right out driveway on South Washington. As I mentioned in my opening during the existing conditions that there are two curb pits out there today. We are removing both of them and doing a more commercial style driveway design right in right out on South Washington Avenue. We do, I'm happy to report, have a conditional approval from Middlesex County. Overall, the property is proposing 17 parking spaces, which is the same number of spaces that you previously granted for approval of the 17. Of course we complied with a DA standards and the EV statute. We went through the loading of the facility and one of the nice aspects of this site plan and this the room that we have on the property, is to provide full circulation. We have two-way 24 and 25 foot access aisles all around the building. That allows our customers to be able to utilize the drive up units to allow the trucks that will be coming to the site to access it well and maneuver well. And of course the most importantly fire and emergency access can able to operate on all four sides of the building. Speaker 12 00:41:13 We are proposing one monument sign that is located along South Washington Avenue near the driveway. It's fully compliant and conforming with your ordinance. It's about 32 square feet in size, six feet in height, and is set back about 25 feet from the road. Why the monument sign? Simply to be able to safely identify the driveway since it's one sole point on South Washington Avenue and because our building is set back a little bit of a distance from the road stormwater management overall the property has about 15 feet in gray change from the south side to the north side, which is right to left on the screen. Heading towards Dottie's Brook. Our stormwater management facility of course, will comply with all standards. We will certainly comply with any requests from the DNR engineer and review letter as well as your other professionals. I am happy to report that we have our DEP approvals on the property, both with the floodplain and wetlands. In addition to that, our stormwater management facility will comply with all four prongs of stormwater, which again, just for the record is quantity, quality, groundwater recharge and green infrastructure. We will be proposing gas and electric to the county right away and brand new water connections of course to service the building domestic connection as well as a six inch fire connection to the building. And in working with your fire marshal, we'll make sure that there's a fire hydrant on site as well. Speaker 12 00:42:37 What you can also see on here outside of just the site plan aspect, you'll see that we have a robust landscaping plan. I do believe that we have complied with all of the board professionals. Questions, comments and recommendations. And again, just for the record, we have 28 shade trees, 34 evergreen trees, and approximately a hundred different shrubs between evergreen and deciduous. I'm happy to report that we comply with all of your Piscataway landscaping standards. Last component of a, the site plan design and aspect is the lighting plan. We have five LED area light poles. They're spread throughout the outside of the ACTA tiles and the parking area as well as 12 LED wall packs on all four sides of the building. I'm happy to report that we are not spilling over any of our property lines. And the lighting plan complies completely with the Piscataway ordinance. I went through a little bit of some of the outside agency approval letters. Again, we are conditionally approved in Middlesex County. We have our DAP approvals also been approved for our septic system that will be on site because there's no sanitary sewer availability within the roadway. Finally, for and our opinion, basically the, the layout that's presented before you on the exhibit that's on the screen complies wholeheartedly with the original use variance approval. And what we've done here is prepared a full set of robust civil drawings, traffic report, architectural plans, as well as our stormwater report to show that we comply with the vast majority of all of the standards and requirements from Piscataway. And I think there's probably a good pausing point. See if anyone has any questions. Donna, before I get into some formal planning testimony, Speaker 0 00:44:13 Any members of the board have any questions or comments at this point? Speaker 13 00:44:16 Yeah, I do. Artie, how many yard hydrants are, are, are gonna be on the property are how many fire hydrants? Speaker 12 00:44:25 We have one proposed right now, sir, and that's located on the eastern side of the property to the back of the building. And the building will be fully sprinkled as well. Speaker 13 00:44:36 Is there any, is is there a, a hydrant out in the front anywhere or you're you're just having that one hydrant there? Speaker 12 00:44:45 I'm not, I have to look the street view. I could do that for you in a second to see if there's any existing infrastructure along South Washington. Based on the prelim review we've gotten from Piscataway Fire Department is that they know that we will have a six inch fire main going to the building, fully sprinkler. There will be FTP connections around the building and then what they wanted was a hydrant in the rear. So for redundancy purposes, if there's a request for a second hydrant, we can certainly work with the fire department on that. But we've gotten their preliminary approval on, on what's being proposed this evening. Speaker 13 00:45:20 Okay, Speaker 0 00:45:22 Thanks Artie. Any other members of the board of any questions for the testimony? That's been, Speaker 8 00:45:26 I have one question. Is there a light lights out policy on this property? Speaker 12 00:45:32 Mr. Chadwick? The applicant, because they limit the hours from six to 10, we expect that the area light poles and majority of the wall packs other than the ones over, say the front door for security and maybe the driveway will turn off after operating hours. Speaker 8 00:45:47 Right. So you you agree to that? Speaker 12 00:45:50 Yes sir. Speaker 8 00:45:50 Right. Speaker 0 00:45:52 Thank you John. Any other member members? Okay, you can proceed Speaker 11 00:45:59 If you could now, Josh, just touch on the variance and the design waiver we were seeking. Speaker 12 00:46:03 Absolutely. So the, the single variance that we're seeking is ordinance section 21 6 19 1. It talks about fences not being more than six feet tall in residential zones. Again, I believe this ordinance discusses this so that when you're doing a residential house and maybe you're doing something in the backyard next to your neighbor, you don't have an 8, 10, 12 foot tall fence. What we're seeking, and it is applicable because we are in the R 20 zone, we're seeking a a variance because if you take the fence and you put it on top of our retaining wall that's located in the northeast section of the site, it's approximately 13.23 feet. So because of the dropping grade, as you heard in my existing conditions testimony, there's over 15 feet of grade change across the site based on the pinch point in the corner of the property and the turnaround for our full corporation, we need about a six and a half foot tall retaining wall due to fall protection standards. Speaker 12 00:46:59 We are then proposing a six foot fence on top of it. So essentially what we're seeking here is a, a straightforward C two variance. We believe the deviation can be granted by your, your township zoning board of adjustment simply because the benefits outweigh any type of detriment. The retaining wall, again, like I mentioned, is due to grade change on the property. It's a safety consideration that's required by the building code requirement. And in my professional opinion, there's no impact of the wall slash fence to any of our surrounding neighbors. So the north of us is wooded area and a stream, but even beyond that is the Piscataway town center to the east of us is woods and, and no neighbors. So there's really no impact of that fence. And really it's just a, a safety measure. Like I mentioned, there's no substantial detriment to the public good, certainly no detriment to the zone plan or the zoning ordinance. Speaker 12 00:47:48 This board has rigorously reviewed this site, not just in their prior application with the use variance, but now with the full set of land development drawings. I believe that is consistent again with the master plan. And like Donna mentioned in her opening, it advances several purposes of the municipal land use law of a g and I overall, we're seeking this variance from the board to put a fence on top of a wall for safety purposes. From the design waiver standpoint, the, it's a simple ordinance that talks about not allowing a driveway to be permitted to access a non permitted use within a residential zone. But as this board is aware, we've gotten use variance approval for the self storage facility. We're seeking here to simply provide land development approval. And we believe that kind of the, the approval of the driver will be subsumed into the rest of the relief as well as the program that we have. But overall, there's no negative impact. If we anticipate this site to be successful with the self storage facility, we need a commercially driven driveway. Again, we're on South Washington Avenue and we have conditional approval from the county. So I believe that the driveway can be permitted and approved without any negative impacts. Speaker 11 00:48:58 Thank you. And I guess just as a matter of record keeping, you had an opportunity to review the four review letters from the board's consultants, and is there any issues in those reports you wanna discuss? Speaker 12 00:49:11 I don't believe so. The, there's a couple comments left for, I'll say for cleanup that could be conditions of resolution of approval, Donna, and then we will comply and work with them and that post-approval condition. Speaker 11 00:49:23 That's all the direct questions I have for this witness. Speaker 0 00:49:26 Thank you. Jonathan, can you jump in with any issues that you might have? Speaker 7 00:49:30 The only thing I saw was lack of conduit on the civil drawings, otherwise the drawing in the testimony of addressed all, all of my comments. Speaker 12 00:49:44 Hey Jonathan, we will be providing that conduit along the frontage. We can withdraw that from the variance request application and we'll make a note on the plans accordingly. Speaker 7 00:49:51 Perfect, thank you. Speaker 12 00:49:53 Certainly. Any other Speaker 0 00:49:54 Members of the board have any questions or comments about this? Ms. Jennings, you can proceed. Speaker 3 00:50:00 Sure, Speaker 11 00:50:00 I'd like to call this time our architect Lewis. Speaker 3 00:50:04 Lewis, are you present? Yes, I am. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Yes, I do. Your name and address please. Lewis van Delott, V-A-N-D-E-L-O-E-C-H HT 2 29 Greenbrier Estates, St. Louis, Missouri, 6 3 1 2 2. Speaker 11 00:50:27 Thank you. If you could, Lewis, of the benefit of the board give your background and qualifications. Speaker 3 00:50:32 Certainly graduated in 1996 with a bachelor's in architecture from Jury University in Springfield, Missouri. Currently licensed as a licensed architect, the state of New Jersey and it's current licensed in 46 additional states with all of which are current and testified at 20 plus boards there in New Jersey. Boards of adjustment. Mr. Your your qualifications are, are impact. Thank you. We can proceed. Thank Speaker 11 00:50:58 You. Thank you. If you could, Lewis, just describe the floor plans and elevations for the benefit of the board and if you're gonna rely on an exhibit, just identify it for us please. Speaker 3 00:51:06 Certainly. Let me pull these up here if I could. Is everybody seeing 'em on screen? Yes, we are. Yes Speaker 11 00:51:15 We are. Speaker 3 00:51:16 Okay. These are the exhibits that were submitted, I believe end of last week, first this week. So a 1.1 you're looking at here, just the only comment I'll make here is a change in orientation from what Josh presented his north was to the left hand side. We flipped ours north to the bottom just to get the scale of the, of the drawings larger. So what you're seeing here is the first floor plan here on the right hand side will be Washington Avenue here on the south on the page bottom would be north. What you're seeing is the typical self-storage layout. This is the loading area that was referenced to the backend loading for, you know, vehicles of backend unloads straight into the elevators with the small office located right here, located, located in that office is a small restroom for, you know, the office employees and then additional restroom for users of the facility. Speaker 3 00:52:10 Fire pump and electrical room road located right next to it. And then the typical kind of layout runway of a self storage unit. Our self storage facility, there's approximately 970 units in this facility over three floors ranging anywhere from a five five by five unit to a 10 by 30 backend unit that you're kind of seeing here on the, the left hand top and bottom side of the page. Flipping to the second floor, you see the same similar layout to it, the cutout for the loading area. So I can, you know, an oversized truck or higher truck, bay truck into that, into that bay, same racetrack facility. And then the third floor that cutout gets filled in because I'm over the top of that bay. And then the same kind of layout track facility of that ing then to our elevations, what you're seeing on screen are probably the most prominent elevations, the north elevation and the west elevation facing the street. Speaker 3 00:53:08 This is what we typically use for a, a modern cell storage facility. It's a mix of metal panels and what we call a hop panel. It's a, a cement fiber panel similar to a siding with a mix of glass, then at the office and at the loading area. And then probably the feature that that we've, we've done most prominently on all of our self storage facilities, what we call display window area. This is a shallow recessed area inside the building that when you see it from the outside, you'll see display doors, you know, of the, of what the storage unit looks like on the inside. So this is all vision glass, but it doesn't show, you know, into somebody's, into somebody's storage unit or storage space. The colors that we have here are fairly typical for a self storage facility. Usually, you know, whites and whites and grays, whites and tans with usually one pop of accent color. Speaker 3 00:54:04 The other thing I'll note on these two elevations are the signage locations were proposed to the wall sign, approximately 50 square feet. Were showing two locations for those signs. Depending on where the operator comes in, they may choose one or the other regardless of which one it is, they'll comply with the zoning ordinance, you know, as it, as a, as we pick the final operator. One thing I will note is a lot of times we get asked, you know, will the colors change when we pick a final operator? The answer is no. What we're putting to you guys is, is what will be built on the building. The last note I'll make here on these two elevations is in regards to mechanical screening. This, the mechanical units on these facilities usually very low. You're not talking a a large box unit like you see like on an office building. Speaker 3 00:54:53 These are more what I would call more small residential style, you know, compressor units on top of the building. Once we get those located, we'll locate them. So either via line of sight or you know, unit mounted screening that will comply with the, the city's ordinances will be, will be provided on these two units. Most of the time these things are, you know, 75, a hundred feet from the corner of the building. So from the street you, there's no way you can see 'em. And we ensure that flipping then to the last two elevations we had the south elevation and the east elevation. The south elevation shows the slope and the gutter line as the, as the, the roof drained slopes from, call it the north to south, it'll be picked up in the drainage, the continuing of the driving units. And then the east elevation is just the simplified, you know, of the other two elevations because it's the farthest one away from the street. Those are the exhibits we have. And Donna, if there's any other questions, I'd be more than happy to answer. Speaker 11 00:55:52 That's all the direct testimony I had for you. Speaker 3 00:55:55 Okay. Any members of the board have any questions? Speaker 8 00:55:59 I have one question please. John, select selection of the color for the doors. It, it, it just seems, it takes away from the gray, the blue, the white of the principle building. Speaker 3 00:56:17 Yes. We, if, Speaker 8 00:56:19 If I'm asking a question to the architect, Speaker 3 00:56:22 Yes, I mean we, we match that with what our typical kind of color pal for this piece is to, to emphasize. Usually those doors kind of become an accident point for the building. You know, I'd be more than happy to discuss it with the, with the applicant if, if a different color is, if that if would be the hangup for approval. I'm sure we can work something out with staff. Speaker 8 00:56:43 I mean the other slide you had of the other walls that, I mean that one, one of them is, can you flip back to that? Yeah, that one it just seems those, I guess they're orange or OPEC or whatever I call that is takes away from the building itself. It would seem something that's more into the gray and the white would be more appropriate. But Speaker 0 00:57:13 Are you suggesting John, Speaker 8 00:57:14 I'm just making a comment what you, whether you had thought about it. Speaker 3 00:57:19 It, it is something we do with a lot of our self storage facilities. Again, they kind of create that accent of, of where those doors are. We have modified it in the past, you know, for, for another color that kind of blends in. It's if, if the board comes through and says, Hey, we can do something more neutral, we'd be more than happy to to work on that. Speaker 8 00:57:41 I would suggest it. Speaker 3 00:57:43 Okay, understood. Speaker 0 00:57:45 Thank you John. Any other members have any questions? John, you have any questions, Jonathan? Not at this time, no. Thank you. Okay, great. Alright, Ms. Jennings. Speaker 11 00:57:55 Sure. And then our last witness is our traffic engineer Craig. Speaker 2 00:58:00 Ms. Craig present. Speaker 14 00:58:02 I'm here. Speaker 2 00:58:03 Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth? Speaker 14 00:58:08 Yes, I do. Speaker 2 00:58:08 Your name and address please? Speaker 14 00:58:10 Name is Craig Pergo, P-E-R-E-G-O-Y, business address, 2 45 Main Street in Chester. More importantly, home address is here in Piscataway, so I drive by the site probably a dozen times a week for the past 15 years. Speaker 11 00:58:24 If you could Craig, give the board the benefit of your background and qualifications. Speaker 14 00:58:28 Sure. I have a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from Virginia Tech. I'm a licensed professional engineer in New Jersey and I testify pretty much on a nightly basis in front of planning and zoning boards, including here in town a few times. Awesome. Speaker 0 00:58:40 Thank you so much. You can proceed. Speaker 11 00:58:42 Okay. If you could just confirm for the record that your office prepared a traffic impact analysis dated July 29th, 2024. Speaker 14 00:58:49 We did, yes. Speaker 11 00:58:50 And if you could just describe the existing roadway conditions. Speaker 14 00:58:53 Sure. As, as was mentioned in the, in Mr Sea's testimony, we're on South Washington Avenue, that's a county road, so we're under their jurisdiction. We have conditional approval from them, which is some I to cross and i's to dot and t's to cross to finish that up. You want me just keep going Donna? Yeah, if you Speaker 11 00:59:11 Wanna address the side traffic and what do you findings in your report? Speaker 8 00:59:15 Sure. Speaker 14 00:59:16 In, in terms of traffic impacts, self-storage is one of the lowest traffic generating land uses that there is. I, the Dean and Dolan letter acknowledges that, just to give you the numbers. During a a weekday peak hour, this would generate about 19 trips, a trip as a vehicle entering or exiting, so about nine or 10 customers or visitors. And on a weekend, on a Saturday, 22 trips. So around around 11 customers, those are very low numbers. Typically, what's considered a significant traffic increase is a hundred or more peak hour trips. So we're well below that threshold. So certainly I don't see any impacts here. Negative impacts here from a traffic impact standpoint. And I say that not only as a traffic engineer, but my wife would kill me if there were negative traffic impacts here. So you can really take it to heart particular case. Speaker 14 00:59:59 Right. The second thing we looked at, obviously the site circulation. I think that testimony was already provided, but the parking supply I referenced the ites or Institute of Transportation Engineers parking generation manual. It it gives us for different land uses the actual counted peak parking demand. And for this size self storage. If I look at either based on the number of units or based on the square footage, it says that the peak demand will be 13 spaces. We have 17 striped parking spaces. Most of the vehicles visiting the site use those loading areas in front of the garage doors anyway. So certainly we have more than enough parking. And I know that was previously approved with the use variance. So all in all, this is you, you know, this fits perfectly in terms of traffic impact sites laid out well and has plenty of parking. Speaker 11 01:00:48 Thank you, Craig. That's really all the direct testimony we have in the traffic engineer. Speaker 0 01:00:52 Thank you. Ms. Chins, any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Speaker 15 01:00:56 Yes. Steve Weisman. Speaker 0 01:00:58 Yeah, Steve Speaker 15 01:01:00 Drivers heading to this facility from Centennial. They'll be taking a left hand turn into your lot. Speaker 14 01:01:08 The county has asked us to restrict the driveway to right in, right out. Thank Speaker 15 01:01:11 You. Then they handled my issue. Awesome. Speaker 0 01:01:15 Thank you Steve. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Ms. Jennings, if you wanna wrap it up with any final testimony before we give it out to the public. Speaker 11 01:01:25 No, that's essentially our, our case. So you, you could open it up to the public Speaker 0 01:01:29 Thank you with no members on the board asking any questions. I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone on the public portion have any questions or comments about this application? Speaker 1 01:01:39 No. One chairman. Speaker 0 01:01:40 Okay. Close the public portion and I can make a motion to approve this application. Thank you. Can I get a call? Roll Speaker 1 01:01:49 Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Mr. Riley? Yes. And Chairman Caho? Speaker 0 01:02:04 Yes. Speaker 11 01:02:05 Ms. Jenny, thank you so much. Realize this at our next meeting. Thank you. We appreciate it. Have a great night everybody. Have a good night. You too, Speaker 0 01:02:10 Everybody. Bye-bye. I believe we're up to item number 11, Laura? Speaker 1 01:02:15 Yes. Resolutions. Okay. Speaker 0 01:02:17 First resolution. New Speaker 2 01:02:18 Singular Wireless, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weinstein? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Patel. Mr. Blount. Mr. Duka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Next is Kim Voorhees, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weinstein? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Hata? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Speaker 0 01:02:45 Yes. Speaker 2 01:02:46 Next is Jeff Deloff, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weinstein? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Hata? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Finally, Eva Cook, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weinstein? Yes. Mr. Tillery? Yes. Mr. Hada? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Those are all the resolutions for this evening. Speaker 0 01:03:10 Okay, I Number 12. Adoption of the minutes of the regular meeting of January 9th, 2025. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Was that you Mr. Weinstein? Yes, it was. Weisman. Item item number 13. Adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Okay guys. Great meeting. Thanks so much for coming out again. Stay warm. Be better, Sean. Good evening everyone.