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Aug 14 2025 · Zoning
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Meeting Sections
  • 00:00:13 — Meeting Opening and Roll Call
  • 00:01:37 — Agenda Adjustments and Postponements
  • 00:02:26 — Case 25-ZB-51V: Vipul Patel - Fence Installation 25-ZB-51V
  • 00:05:35 — Case 25-ZB-22V: Steven Edens - Fence and Shed Variance 25-ZB-22V
  • 00:11:37 — Case 25-ZB-57B: Ava Roy - Porch Roof Addition 25-ZB-57B
  • 00:18:08 — Case 25-ZB-52V: Alonzo O'Brien - HVAC Unit Setback Variance 25-ZB-52V
  • 00:24:02 — Case 25-ZB-26V: Heather Fam - Skipped/Postponed 25-ZB-26V
  • 00:24:26 — Case 25-ZB-23V: Muslim Center of Middlesex County - Final Major Subdivision 25-ZB-23V
  • 00:27:15 — Case 25-ZB-60V: Hira Gani - Fence Variance for Special Needs Child 25-ZB-60V
  • 00:34:08 — Case 25-ZB [Item 17]: Shyla and Sona Patel - Deer Fence in Easement
  • 00:38:19 — Case 25-ZB-61V: Gordon Aquira - AC Unit Setback Variance 25-ZB-61V
  • 00:41:18 — Case 25-ZB-31/32V: MSN Pharmaceuticals, Inc. - Major Expansion with Height Variance 25-ZB-3125-ZB-32
  • 01:35:05 — Case 25-ZB-37/38V: Chanel Inc. - Security Fence Installation 25-ZB-3725-ZB-38
  • 01:49:05 — Adoption of Resolutions from July 10, 2025 Meeting
  • 01:52:12 — Adoption of Meeting Minutes and Adjournment
Meeting Opening and Roll Call AI  00:00:13 – 00:01:14
Zoning Board of Adjustment meeting called to order with notice of meeting provided. Pledge of Allegiance conducted. Full roll call of board members.
Speaker 0Zoning Board of Adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the Courier News notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal Building notice made available to the township clerk Notice sent to the Courier News and the star ledger. Will the clerk please call the roll?
Speaker 1Gimme one second. I lost my sheet.
Speaker 0No, take your time.
Speaker 1Just trying to get your rezos done. Hold on. Courtney, I lost my sheet, my, my book sheet. Thank you. Okay. Thank God, miss Goodness. Courtney's here. Okay, Mr. Weisman. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Blo. Mr. Hika Here. Mr. Mitterando here and Chairman Kale Here.
Speaker 0Well, everyone please stand for salute to the flag.
Speaker 1Mr. Roy is here.
Speaker 0Thanks, Roy. I pleasure. Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic public stands, one Nation under God and justice for all. Mr. Canal, do we have any changes to tonight's agenda?
Agenda Adjustments and Postponements AI  00:01:37 – 00:02:26
Clerk reports several applications withdrawn or adjourned: Jimenez (Mitchell Avenue) withdrawn; Sony (Hamilton Boulevard) adjourned to September 18; Delton Black (South Second Street) adjourned to September 18; Lopez (Howard Street) adjourned to September 25; MENA (Old New Brunswick Road) adjourned to September 25; Rouse (Southwest Court) adjourned to October 9; Venture Act (Hose Lane) adjourned to September 25.
Speaker 2Yes, we have quite a few changes. The application of Jimenez on Mitchell Avenue has been withdrawn and will not be heard. The Sony application Hamilton Boulevard is adjourned until September 18th, 2025 with no further notice. Delton Black is adjourned. South second Street is adjourned until September 18th with no further notice. The Lopez application, Howard Street, adjourned until September 25th with no further notice. The MENA application, old New Brunswick Road, is adjourned until September 25th. They must notice the Rouse application on Southwest Court is adjourned until October 9th. They must notice. Finally, venture Act hose lane is adjourned until September 25th. No further notice. Those are all the changes I have. Mr. Chairman.
Case 25-ZB-51V: Vipul Patel - Fence Installation 25-ZB-51V AI  00:02:26 – 00:05:27
Applicant Vipul Patel requesting variance to install fans on his property. Staff report dated June 11 reviewed; applicant agreed to memorandum of restriction regarding easement access and costs. Application approved unanimously.
Speaker 0Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Let's move on to item number 7 25 dash ZB dash 51 V. Vipul Patel
Speaker 2Is Vapo Patel. Present is Vapo p Patel present. Laura, do you see the applicant?
Speaker 1No, I do not. Just go to number eight. Got
Speaker 0It. I
Speaker 1I think he is here. It's at Meet mute. I, yes. Oh, he just muted himself. Wait, he's back. Okay.
Speaker 2Are you Vital Patel?
Speaker 1Hit unmute. You muted again?
Speaker 3Yes. There you go. Patel. Don't touch. Dave,
Speaker 2I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 2Your name and address please?
Speaker 3VI Patel. 11 Christopher Court, Picard, New Jersey 0 8 8 5 4. Thank
Speaker 2You. Put your hand down and explain to the board why you're here.
Speaker 3I didn't, I didn't understand you, sir.
Speaker 2Explain to the board why you're here. Why are you before the board? Yes.
Speaker 3I wanna put the fans on my property.
Speaker 0Okay. Jonathan, do you have some que comments on this, sir?
Speaker 4Yes. Thank you. Mr. Patel, have you read this staff report dated June 11th,
Speaker 3June 11? Yes.
Speaker 4Do you agree with all the terms of that staff report?
Speaker 3Yes, sir.
Speaker 4And you understand that no offense permit will be approved until a memorandum of restriction is recorded.
Speaker 3What is that means?
Speaker 4Item four. In the report, it states that if the township needs to access the easement, you will encumber all costs associated with the removal and replacement of the fence or anything else you have within the easement area. So it's a document that says that you agree to that?
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 4Okay. Okay. No, no further comments or questions. Thank you.
Speaker 0Any other, any other comments or questions from the board? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public portion have any comments or questions about this application?
Speaker 1No. One chairman. Hey,
Speaker 0Laura, close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I'll
Speaker 2Second it.
Speaker 0Thanks. Call the roll.
Speaker 1Mr. Patel.
Speaker 3Yes? Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Regio Roy is here. Mr. Blo? Mr. Haka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and we'll send that document to you.
Speaker 3Thank you, sir.
Speaker 0Thank you. Have a good night. Mr. Patel.
Speaker 1Chairman. Mr. Weston's trying to get on. He's having a connection problem.
Speaker 0Okay. Just let us know when he gets in.
Speaker 1I shall. Thank you.
Case 25-ZB-22V: Steven Edens - Fence and Shed Variance 25-ZB-22V AI  00:05:35 – 00:11:37
Steven Edens requesting fence and shed variance. Original proposal required fence brought in 15 feet from property line and shed removal; applicant countered with 4-foot fence proposal for front portions. Board approved amended application with 4-foot solid fence on front (William and Vogel sides) and 180-day timeline for shed removal due to applicant's recent health issues.
Speaker 0In meantime, let's move on to item number 8 25 dash ZB dash 22 V. Steven ENSs.
Speaker 2Is Steven Eden's present? Yes. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Yes. Do you swear that the testimony, the give should be the truth?
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 2Your name and address please?
Speaker 5Steven l Eden. One Vogel Avenue, Piscataway, New Jersey.
Speaker 0Thanks. Could you explain to the board why you're here?
Speaker 5Because of my fence and a shed. I want, I, I'm requesting a variance on it, I guess.
Speaker 0Okay. Hey Jonathan, you have some comments about this one as well?
Speaker 4Yes. So, similarly, have you, have you read the May 22nd staff report memorandum?
Speaker 5Yes.
Speaker 4Okay. Do you agree with all the, the terms of that report?
Speaker 5Yes.
Speaker 4Including that the shed be removed, the fence along William Street be brought in 15 feet from the property line, not the curb. The property line and the fence along Vogel will be brought in with the in line with the garage.
Speaker 5I would like not to have to do that. I, I would request that the fence remain where it is in the shed. Also,
Speaker 4The fence is required to be 25 feet from the property line. So 15 feet is a, a good compromise. It's more than half.
Speaker 0We could insist on the original. We're trying to compromise here and make it work for both parties here.
Speaker 5So you are requesting that you are ordering that defense be brought in 15 feet from the curb?
Speaker 4From the property line?
Speaker 5From the property line. I don't think I have that much property.
Speaker 4It would result in the fence being 20 scale.
Speaker 5It's only been there since 1983. I know that doesn't matter, but it's been there since 1983
Speaker 4On the back corner of your house. It would give you about 10 feet from the corner of your house to the pro to the fence line along William Street.
Speaker 6How about a
Speaker 5Four foot fence? What if I just took the front portion down and put a four foot fence
Speaker 4Up? You would be allowed to do that.
Speaker 5Okay. Well, I guess that's what I have to do. What would I be doing? Just the front or what, what portion would I have to drop it down? The four feet,
Speaker 4The portion in front of the garage along Vogel and the portion along the, the side of the house that fronts the intersection of William and Vogel.
Speaker 5Okay.
Speaker 0What about the shed, Jonathan?
Speaker 4The shed should be, the shed should be removed. You're, you're way over on your building coverage.
Speaker 5Shed has to be removed
Speaker 6By when?
Speaker 5By when.
Speaker 4We can, when you come in for the fence permit, we can agree to a term that's suitable for you.
Speaker 1Chairman. It has to be in the resolution when we have to do this. 'cause we have 90 days agreeable. Could be 90 days. 120 days.
Speaker 090 days. About
Speaker 5What? About 180 days. I've just had major surgery and unable to do a whole lot of things right now. I had a triple bypass. My wife's recovering from cancer.
Speaker 4180 is agreeable.
Speaker 0Yeah. Six months is fine. Mr. Edens, we can do that.
Speaker 5Okay.
Speaker 0Alright. Front
Speaker 7Of the fence needs to be brought to four feet.
Speaker 5The front, the front of the fence needs to be four feet. Right? About
Speaker 7William Street?
Speaker 5Yes. William Street, side and VO as it is just the front portion, four feet,
Speaker 4The front along William and the front along vo.
Speaker 7So that's the lha.
Speaker 5Okay. So the L shape running down Williams Street has to be dropped to four feet. The whole thing. Really? The whole thing has to be four feet then, right?
Speaker 4Yes. It's a small property. So, yes.
Speaker 1But Jonathan, does it have to be 50% or it can't be solid? Correct.
Speaker 4Oh, if, if he wants to ask for solid, he can, but he wouldn't need the, he wouldn't need the variance for 50%.
Speaker 1Well, yeah. So just so we know when he comes in, what he's going for. Can, can he do the four foot solid
Speaker 0Mr. Eds, are you doing four foot solid or 50%? Yes. Four. Four foot.
Speaker 5Yeah. Four foot solid. I would hope to do
Speaker 0Okay. We can live with that.
Speaker 4No further, no further questions.
Speaker 0Okay. Any other, okay. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Okay. Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public, including children and babies, if they have any comments or questions. Are you able to put a sides, a nine foot? Anything? Laura? Nine.
Speaker 1No one chairman.
Speaker 0Okay. Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Amended through Jonathan's comments. Can I get a second? Thank you. Please call the roll.
Speaker 1Mr. Weisman
Speaker 0Here? Yes. Mr.
Speaker 1Patel? Yes.
Speaker 5Mr.
Speaker 1Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Heka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application as amended has been approved. We'll memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and we'll mail that document to you. Good luck.
Case 25-ZB-57B: Ava Roy - Porch Roof Addition 25-ZB-57B AI  00:11:37 – 00:18:08
Ava Roy requesting to construct roof over front porch for weather protection and safety. Initial request for 5-foot coverage reduced to 4-foot footprint as board recommendation. Public comment from neighbor regarding roof overhang and line-of-sight concerns. Application approved as amended with 4-foot roof footprint.
Speaker 0Goodnight. Ms. Proceeds move on to item number 10 25 dash ZB dash 57 B. Ava Roy?
Speaker 5Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 2Mr. Roy, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand?
Speaker 8Yes.
Speaker 2Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 8Yes. Only truth, nothing but truth.
Speaker 2Thank you. Explain to the board why you're here.
Speaker 8Yeah. I'm here for, I requested for a, to construct a roof over my porch, front porch in front of the front door. So we need this roof. We would like to have, especially during rain and snow, so that you can step out of the house and during snow it sometime the porch becomes icy and it's a hazardous situation. Sure. So, so I need to have the roof. Another thing is that any, anytime I have a home delivery from Amazon or Walmart or Home Depot, the item will be lying on the open. In the open and if it rains and something, you know, so, so I would like to have this porch built, the roof built on, on top of existing front porch.
Speaker 0Understood, sir. Very valid ideas there. So, Jonathan, do you have any comments on this as well, sir?
Speaker 4Yes. Since Mr. Roy has received prior front yard setback variances and a conversation that I had with Mr. Roy prior to this meeting, we're gonna ask that the, the covering over the front entrance be four feet deep instead of the five that's being requested, four feet in line with what's there existing. So it's more so just covering what's there now rather than expanding and covering. Is that agreeable, Mr. Roy? Yeah.
Speaker 8Yeah. Actually, right now it is from the property line 30. If you do five feet, it's from the property line, it's 33.8 feet and the dwelling is 38.8 from the property line. So if I do four feet, then it'll be 34.8, and if I do five feet, then it'll be 33.8 feet. Okay. So I, I would prefer five feet, but you know, it's up to you, you know.
Speaker 4Okay. If you, if you agree to four feet, we're agreeable to that. Yeah.
Speaker 0I think we can move ahead with this Mr. Roy, if you agree to four foot footprint,
Speaker 1But chairman, show the rec record that Mr. Blo has joined us.
Speaker 0Okay.
Speaker 1Before this one, so he could vote.
Speaker 0Right. And I see Mr. Weissman's on as well.
Speaker 1Yes, correct. Thank you.
Speaker 0Okay. Mr. Roy, are we agreeable with the four foot footprint?
Speaker 8Yeah, the five foot will not be allowed or what? No, it's,
Speaker 0It's, it's recommended that we go with the forefoot and I can guarantee you I can a very, a good outcome on our vote if you go with the forefoot.
Speaker 8Okay.
Speaker 0Okay. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments for this applicant hearing now I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone on the public have any comments or questions for this application?
Speaker 10I have one. One.
Speaker 0Oh, sure.
Speaker 10Couldn't, couldn't, you said the four.
Speaker 2Hold on. You need, hold on. You need to identify yourself. Oh, okay. And I need you doing
Speaker 10My name. Okay. What do you,
Speaker 2What, what's your name, sir?
Speaker 10Alonzo Bryant.
Speaker 2And your address?
Speaker 10Six Jersey Avenue, Piscataway, New Jersey.
Speaker 2Thank you. Could you raise your right hand? I need to swear you in.
Speaker 10Sure.
Speaker 2Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 10Yes, definitely the truth.
Speaker 2Go ahead with your question or comment, sir.
Speaker 10My comment, comment was, is the gentleman in question, is he aware that the four foot footprint is just the concrete on the ground? The roof could stick out five foot because it, I mean, I think he's worried about the overhang. The footprint is a concrete base. If he wants the overhang slightly bigger, that's not part of the foundation. So he should be able to get that Right.
Speaker 0It's not the recommendation that we're getting from our engineering department.
Speaker 10The foot, your eng I'm sorry, I I for your engineering is called always calls the footprint, the building itself. Right.
Speaker 0I call, I called it the footprint of the, of the porch that he's trying to cover.
Speaker 4We have the, we have the drawings. We have the drawings that were submitted as part of this application. It's showing, it's showing five feet.
Speaker 10For the footprint or for the roof?
Speaker 2For the roof.
Speaker 8Roof. The porch is, sorry. The porch is four feet. Right. Four feet width for porch. Right. But the but the roof can be one feet more than the porch. That's what I think.
Speaker 10That's
Speaker 0Right. We're proposing, we're proposing that it covers the footprint of the porch at four feet. That's what we're that's what we're promoting.
Speaker 8The roof. The, the roof roof has to be four feet, just above the porch. If
Speaker 0You agree on that, we can move forward.
Speaker 10Okay. One more thing. But don't, most homes, every home actually out here, don't they all roofs, all overhang The footprint,
Speaker 0Not the, you're talking about the roofs on the actual structure. You're talking about a porch roof. A porch roof doesn't necessarily go out further. No,
Speaker 10No. The roof on every foundation out here extends past the foundation.
Speaker 4Mr. Brian this,
Speaker 2If they don't need a front yard setback variance, that's fine. This application needs a front yard setback variance. That's why this application
Speaker 4And they previously were granted a front yard setback. So we, we are not granting further relief from that front yard
Speaker 10Setback. Understood.
Speaker 0Okay. Thank you sir for your comments. Laura, anyone else in the public portion? No. Chairman. Okay. Close the public portion. I take the motion to approve this application with the four roof.
Speaker 2Second,
Speaker 0Can I get a call roll call
Speaker 1Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Bla? Yes. Mr. Haka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application's been approved as amended. We'll memorialize it at our next meeting and send a copy to you. Good luck.
Case 25-ZB-52V: Alonzo O'Brien - HVAC Unit Setback Variance 25-ZB-52V AI  00:18:08 – 00:23:53
Alonzo O'Brien requesting variance for HVAC system placement in workshop building (originally permitted as cabana). Unit located 8 feet from fence instead of required 10 feet. Applicant explained workshop used for personal hobbies and contractor storage, not commercial business. Agreed to deed restriction preventing occupancy or business use. Application approved unanimously.
Speaker 0Thank you. Thank you Mr. Roy. Thank you. Move on to item 1125 dash ZB dash 52 V Alonzo O'Brien. Right back in the game. Take yourself off mute, sir.
Speaker 10Okay,
Speaker 0There you go. You're good to go.
Speaker 2It may seem ridiculous, but I have to swear you in again because you raise your right hand. Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 10Yes. Absolute truth.
Speaker 2Thank you. Could you explain to the board while you're here?
Speaker 10Yes. I need, I can show you. I, it is a, we need an air condition on my building 'cause it has water in it. I have a bathroom and, and I need to keep the water pipe. It's A-H-V-A-C system I'm putting in 'cause it is my workshop. And we want to bring the air condition on this side of the fence with lead, which would lead me only, I supposed to be 10 feet. It'll only lead me eight foot from the fence. But my fence is, you can see is a six foot fence. It goes all the way around and my neighbor next to me has no problem with it. Okay. So that's
Speaker 0Understood. Jonathan, you want
Speaker 4Yeah. What's the, what's the nature of the workshop?
Speaker 10Well, the nature of the workshop is first for me, I'm a contractor and second off is, 'cause we have a dog. Right. And my wife does not want the dog taking a bath in the house. So the re original reason I even built the building to begin with is because she wants my, my daughter takes care of the dog and she wants the hair out of our tub. So I put, built the building so that with the dog shower in it, you know, so she, we watched the dog to take the dog out back and do it. And I was like, well, since I'm in it, I already had a shed. 'cause that's already on my permit. You'll see that I just extended this to allow space for her to work and me still have my workshop. I do a lot of, you know, different miscellaneous hobbies.
Speaker 4Okay. And we, we recognize, we recognize that, that that conversion did happen in 2019. You listed it as a cab proposed cabana to accompany a pool there, there's no pool on the property. Correct? Yeah.
Speaker 10Right.
Speaker 4Okay. So this structure being used as a, as a workshop kind of extends beyond what a cabana would be used for. It sounds like you're also using it for your business, which is not permitted.
Speaker 10I'm no, keep, no, it is not for my business. I have, I have my truck and I have a shop. That's my hobbies that what I do is, you know, I I fix things, I just do it. 'cause that's what I can do. It's not, I'm not getting paid for that. That's like everything my wife wants, rather than me tearing up my house with, you know, how much tools I have because of I am a tradesman. I keep
Speaker 0So you're not operating a business out of that?
Speaker 10Oh no, I'm definitely not.
Speaker 4Okay. Okay. And there's no, there's no other way you can move this HVAC equipment to the o other side of the structure.
Speaker 10See, I personally wanted to put it on the other side of the structure, but I ran into a problem with my wife. She was saying that if you notice my property itself right behind my house, I have two air conditions feeding my existing house and the air conditions are not, I mean, they're right next to my patio, my deck and my wife claims that when they cut on and we have company, she's on the deck, it makes a lot of noise. That's those two, if I put this air conditioner on the same side of the building, it'll be pretty much close to these two and then she's gonna complain it out. So that was the only reason I even, it, you know, went out this extra $500 to try to ask for this variance because, you know, I have to, I'm putting a lot of work in, I have to So make an effort to try to please her as well.
Speaker 0Understood. Sir, we're a bunch of us are married, so we all know.
Speaker 4Would you, would you agree to a deed restriction that this won't be used for any, any form of occupancy or business
Speaker 10Y Yeah, you are. They've already given me, you gave me that for my first, the fir when you first approved the building. So yes, I agree to it. It's already in writing. Y'all gave me a memo with that already on it. This can never be used as an occupancy.
Speaker 4Alright. And I'll, I'll hold any other comments if there's neighbors that come out.
Speaker 0Yeah, that's what I was saying the same thing. Let's open it to the public and find out if he has any neighbors that have any issues with this. First and foremost, does anyone else on the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone on the public portion have any comments or questions? I
Speaker 1No. One chairman.
Speaker 0Okay. Close the public portion. Yes. And Jonathan, with no comments from the public, I'm gonna go ahead and approve this application. Can I get a second? I'll second. Second
Speaker 4It.
Speaker 0Alright.
Speaker 8I have something to say. Yes. The the porch, the porch in length is eight feet. But from the door, door is not center centerly placed. It's not in the center. So one side in the porch, I might have increased one feet or two feet. This is, I'm talking about the length, not the width, which will be four, four feet. Okay. Which will be four feet.
Speaker 0Mr. Chairman, we're done with that application. Yeah. Mr. Roy, we already took the vote on that. I'm sorry. Okay.
Speaker 8Okay.
Speaker 0No, that's fine. And again, we, we have to be on this zoom call. You can, you can go enjoy your evening if you want.
Speaker 8Okay.
Speaker 0Laura, gimme a call. A roll call on the Mr. Bryant.
Speaker 1Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blanc?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Heka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Bryant, your application's been approved. We'll memorialize this in a written document in our next meeting and we'll mail that document to you. Good luck. Thank you.
Speaker 0Goodnight sir. Let's move on to item number 12 24 25 dash ZB dash 26 V. Heather fam
Case 25-ZB-26V: Heather Fam - Skipped/Postponed 25-ZB-26V AI  00:24:02 – 00:24:26
Applicant Heather Fam not present on call. Communication difficulties noted. Case carried to September 18 meeting.
Speaker 2Is Heather President?
Speaker 1I'm gonna be honest. Probably not.
Speaker 2You don't, you don't see her, Laura?
Speaker 1No. Well they have a friend helping them with this and communication is very difficult to say. The least they did notice.
Speaker 0Well, let's skip and
Speaker 1We'll skip them and by the end, if not, we'll push to the next meeting. Got
Case 25-ZB-23V: Muslim Center of Middlesex County - Final Major Subdivision 25-ZB-23V AI  00:24:26 – 00:27:15
David Psad presenting for Bob Smith and Associates representing Muslim Center of Middlesex County. Final major subdivision approval for property at 1000 Hose Lane. Preliminary approval granted October 2020; all conditions satisfied. Seeking final approval and consolidation into New Lot 9.04. No outstanding issues; application approved unanimously.
Speaker 0It. Let's go on to item number 1325 dash ZB dash 23 Muslim Center of Middlesex County. Mr. Arch here.
Speaker 1David's gonna do this one.
Speaker 0Oh, okay. Is he on?
Speaker 1Yes. David,
Speaker 11Apologize. I couldn't figure out how to get it unmuted
Speaker 1That kind of day.
Speaker 11Good evening Board chair members of the board, David Psad from Bob Smith and Associates here tonight for the application for the Muslim Center of Middles six County Mc m mc. It is a final major subdivision application. The property is located on 1000 hose lane East Piscataway, New Jersey Block 1 2 2 0 1 lots, three, four, and 9.03. As I said before, we are looking for a final major subdivision. The board had granted a preliminary, preliminary final sub preliminary major subdivision in October of 2020. And I would like to tell to the board that the, all the conditions of the preliminary approval have been met. So we are seeking tonight the final approval for the subdivision and then the consolidation of all the lots into New Lot 9.04. As a board is aware, we do not get scheduled for final major subdivisions unless all the conditions of preliminary are met. But just in case there are any questions, I do have our engineer, Mr. Sharif Ali present to answer any questions of the board or if there's anything that comes up regarding the preliminary approval. So with that, I welcome any questions or confirmations needed by the board members or professionals to Mr. Sharif Ali. And that's all I have for this application. Thank
Speaker 0You. Thank you David. Jonathan, you have any comments on this one or? No? Thank you. Okay. Fair enough. If all the conditions had been met that was set forth prior, I don't think we have a problem with this. Does anyone on the board have any questions or comments about proceeding? Hearing none, I'll open it to the public. Anyone of the public have any comments or questions about this application or this depart? May none. Okay. Yeah, I'd make a motion to approve this final subdivision. Can I get a second? I'll second it. You vote?
Speaker 1Vote. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Blanc? Yes. Mr. Heka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2We'll, we'll memorialize this to our next meeting and send you a copy to you. Thank you. Board members. I'll be on here for another application later on.
Case 25-ZB-60V: Hira Gani - Fence Variance for Special Needs Child 25-ZB-60V AI  00:27:15 – 00:34:08
Hira Gani requesting fence variance along Buttonwood Street for yard space protecting autistic nonverbal son with elopement risk. Staff recommended 20 feet from property line (40 required). Board offered compromise at 15 feet from property line. Public comment confirmed fence does not impede line of sight. Application approved as amended with 15-foot setback.
Speaker 0We'll see you in a couple minutes then let's move on to item number 1625 dash ZB dash 60 v. Tyra Gani.
Speaker 12Yes sir.
Speaker 0Good evening.
Speaker 12Good evening. I need,
Speaker 2I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand?
Speaker 1I
Speaker 2Got it. You swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth.
Speaker 0Thanks
Speaker 12Lord. I swear.
Speaker 2Thank you. Your name and address please?
Speaker 12Hira Gani. 5 1 9 Linwood Street, Piscataway, New Jersey 0 8 8 5 4.
Speaker 2Thank you. Could you explain to the board why you're here?
Speaker 12Sure. I'm installing fence and I want to request for a variance. I want to appeal for 10 feet off the property line along Buttonwood Street. I have a 18 month old toddler and a severely autistic nonverbal five-year-old son who has elopement risk and no safety awareness. The reason I'm putting the fence is because of my son's safety. I cannot take my son to public parks because it's not gated. He runs away from me and it's like a marathon. I cannot take him to most places because people look at him weird and he gets very overstimulated. I want to appeal for more space because I don't really have a backyard. I have a side yard. I just want enough safe space for him where he can just run freely and I can have space for a outdoor sensory gym for him. And also if I'm spending money on fence, I would rather have more space for my son. My neighbors are aware. The one I share backyard with, they're okay with it. If necessary, I can absolutely provide doctor's mode if it's needed.
Speaker 0Okay. Jonathan, you have anything on this application, sir?
Speaker 440 feet is required from Buttonwood. So we're staff is requesting 20 feet from the property line where 40 is required.
Speaker 0Terry, you understand we're trying to come to a compromise.
Speaker 12I completely understand. I really, really appreciate it. It is just that I would like to appeal for more space. If I can get 10 feet off the property line, just for his sake, I really need it for him.
Speaker 4So that would, the proposal of moving it back 10 feet would reduce the area by about 600 square feet. So I, I mean we could do
Speaker 015,
Speaker 4We could do 15
Speaker 0Here. Is that okay? More than a compromise? 15 is, you know, we're bending over backwards because of the situation your family's in.
Speaker 12Sure.
Speaker 0I can, I can give you a, again, not a pretty much a good guarantee that you'll have a positive outcome if you agree on the 15th,
Speaker 1215 feet off Buttonwood property line.
Speaker 4Yes. So 15 feet off the property line is about 25 feet off of the, the curb or about 17 feet from the back of the sidewalk, if that helps.
Speaker 12Okay. And even with medical documentation, I cannot have 10 feet off the property line. Even if I provide doctor's note,
Speaker 0Unfortunately here it sets a press, it sets a precedent. And even your neighbors who don't have situation that you're in technically could come in and, and ask for the same request.
Speaker 12Okay. So
Speaker 0I, we we can, I think that if you can live with the 15, it's more than generous and I think you'd be very happy with it. Okay. I know. Okay. Patients and I, I feel for your position, excuse me.
Speaker 2Sure.
Speaker 0But I, I think 15 everyone makes will be happy at this situation.
Speaker 12Sure. Then I'll take that. Okay.
Speaker 0And any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none, I'd like to open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any comments or questions about this application? Laura?
Speaker 1Me, I have James Grogan. Gogan? Yes. Raise?
Speaker 14Yes, sir.
Speaker 2In could you raise your right hand? My,
Speaker 14My question is, okay,
Speaker 1Lower your computer down. You're echoing.
Speaker 2Sir, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? I raised Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth?
Speaker 14Yes.
Speaker 2Do I have your name and address please?
Speaker 14James Gagan. Nine Hedge Street, Skyway.
Speaker 2Thank you. Go ahead with your question or comment.
Speaker 14So the Linwood Street is one of the two main en entrance and exit out of this development. And I just wanna make sure that this fence is gonna not gonna go anywhere near the front yard at all. 'cause that'll block the area when you're trying to turn to see whether any cars are coming.
Speaker 1Mr. And Ms. Razzi, how many feet is it from gonna be from the curb? Approximately
Speaker 4From the curb will be about
Speaker 1On the side street,
Speaker 4On the, on Buttonwood, it's going to be
Speaker 1Probably about 18 to 20 feet. And with the right of way
Speaker 4About 25 feet.
Speaker 1Oh, even more.
Speaker 0Okay.
Speaker 4From the, from the curb on, on Buttonwood.
Speaker 9Okay.
Speaker 0So no issues with line of sight?
Speaker 1Correct.
Speaker 0Okay. You okay Mr. Gi?
Speaker 14Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 0You're welcome, sir. Have a good night. Thank you. Anyone else? Laura?
Speaker 1No, sir.
Speaker 0Okay. Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. I'll second call. Roll. Thank
Speaker 1You so much. Thank you so much everyone. You're welcome. Mr. Weissman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Bla?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application as amended has been approved. We will memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and we'll send that document to you. Good luck. Thank
Speaker 1You.
Case 25-ZB [Item 17]: Shyla and Sona Patel - Deer Fence in Easement AI  00:34:08 – 00:38:19
Sona Patel requesting fence approval within township easement due to deer damage to vegetation. Proposed 6-foot vinyl fence to easement boundary, then 15-16 foot chain link gate, then 6-foot chain link fence for rear area. Applicant agreed to memorandum of restriction assuming costs for removal/replacement if township needs easement access. Application approved unanimously.
Speaker 0Good luck, ma'am. Let's move on to item number 17. Shyla and Sona Patel?
Speaker 15Yes. Hello,
Speaker 2Sono Patel. Okay. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you give shall be the truth?
Speaker 15Sure. Yes, I do.
Speaker 2Your name and address please.
Speaker 15Australia, San Patel. Nine nine Lucille Court. Pisca.
Speaker 2Thank you. Could you explain why you're before the board?
Speaker 15So we are planning to put a fence around our, our property. And due to this is because of a lot of deer issue lately. And, and eating, us eating all the vegetation and vegetables, we are growing and that creates a lot of nuisance. Also, probably some health issues they're creating. We get on a, on a regular basis, like 12 to 15 deer and they just, sometimes they just hunker around in the backyard and a lot of damage to the vegetation also as probably they're pooping all over. Yeah. So it's, it's really, it's really, it has really become a hazard issue now. And also we, we also want to have some privacy probably
Speaker 0Understood. Mr. Patel, thank you for clarifying
Speaker 1Mr. Chairman. Their fence is in an easement. That's the reason that they're here.
Speaker 0Right. So John, what's the language they need to know before we proceed?
Speaker 4We need to know how, how tall these fences are. You need to note a vinyl and a chain link. What? Yeah,
Speaker 15So, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4What are the heights of the proposed fences?
Speaker 15So proposed fence is six feet. Vinyl up to the, the, the, the, the easement township easement we have or probably half feet before. And then we are going to put as, as the plan or the, the application we have submitted, we are going to put a 16, 15, or 16 feet gate for the opening. And then the remaining is the chain link. The, the gate also will be of chain link.
Speaker 4What's the height of the chain link? Fence
Speaker 15Chain link would also be six feet.
Speaker 4Okay,
Speaker 0So it's gonna be 15, 16 feet wide.
Speaker 15Yes. Sorry, the gate.
Speaker 4Yeah. Okay. So do you agree, do you agree to a memorandum of restriction regarding the easement where you'll, you'll assume all costs associated with the removal and replacement of the fence, which by putting in the gate you pretty much avoid. But would you agree to entering a memorandum of restriction?
Speaker 15So to understand even we put a gate, you know, is there a responsibility for us?
Speaker 4They'll just use the gate. But if you sign the legal document, it just, it covers all parties. So they'll they'll just use the gate. Yes.
Speaker 15So yeah, we are fine. And that is why we are putting the gate because of the easement, right? Yes. Perfect.
Speaker 0Very smart move, sir. Okay. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone on the public have any questions or comments about this application?
Speaker 2I
Speaker 1No. One chairman. Okay.
Speaker 0Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I'll second. I'll second it. All roll.
Speaker 1Mr. Weisman?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Reggio?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Bla? Yes. Mr. Hika? Yes. Mr. Bedo? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application has been approved and we'll memorialize this is in a written document at our next meeting and we'll send that document to you. Good
Speaker 0Luck.
Speaker 15Thank you. Thank you very much. Board And everybody
Speaker 0Goodnight sir.
Speaker 15Thank you.
Case 25-ZB-61V: Gordon Aquira - AC Unit Setback Variance 25-ZB-61V AI  00:38:19 – 00:41:18
Gordon Aquira requesting variance for AC unit installed 6 feet from property line instead of required 10 feet. Unit currently installed on rental property with two young children; relocation creates safety issues. Staff required screening with fencing or landscaping from front and side. Applicant agreed to screening. Application approved unanimously.
Speaker 0I'm 1825 dash ZB dash 61 v Gordon Aira are muted, sir. There you go. I'm here. Thank you
Speaker 2Sir. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 16I do.
Speaker 2Your name and address please. You put your hand down.
Speaker 16Gordon Aqua 5 1 6 Shirley Parkway, Piscataway, New Jersey oh 8 8 5 4.
Speaker 2Could you explain to the board why you're here?
Speaker 16Yes. So I bought a house about two years ago. I installed on an AC that wasn't working and it's, it's six feet away from the property line. And I'm asking for a variance 'cause it's meant to be 10 feet away from, from the property line.
Speaker 0Okay. Mr. Ms. Rahi.
Speaker 4So to clarify, the AC unit is, is it it's installed now. It's not proposed. It's currently there.
Speaker 16It's currently there, yes. Okay.
Speaker 4And I'm assuming be a substantial hardship to relocate it.
Speaker 16Correct. And the house is a rental. There's two kids there, four and five years old. And where it's located, it's very isolated. So if I'm to move it to the back, I think that'd some safety issues and there's very limited places I could put it in, in the backyard.
Speaker 0Okay.
Speaker 4Okay. You are gonna be required to screen it with either fencing or landscaping from the, from the frontage of the property as well as your neighbor to the side. I know when you first came in, there was a question about the easement on the side where the AC unit is. I would consider having that be implemented or perfected so that way it's, it's recorded properly, but as it is right now on the revised survey, you are not inside that easement. So just the, just the screening. And that's, that's all I have. Mr.
Speaker 0Thank you Jonathan. Mr. Aquira, you're okay with the screening and the I am.
Speaker 16Thank you. Yes.
Speaker 0Okay. Any other members of the board of any questions or comments? Hearing none, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone of the public have any comments or questions about this application?
Speaker 1No. One chairman.
Speaker 0Okay. Close the public portion. I'd make a motion to approve this application. Can I get a second? I second. Thank you. Thanks. Please call the roll.
Speaker 1Mr. Weisman?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 1Mr. Haka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Your application's been approved. We'll memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and we'll mail that document to you. Good luck.
Speaker 16Thank you.
Case 25-ZB-31/32V: MSN Pharmaceuticals, Inc. - Major Expansion with Height Variance 25-ZB-3125-ZB-32 AI  00:41:18 – 01:34:30
Extensive hearing for MSN Pharmaceuticals expansion at 22 Duke Road. Seeking D6 height variance from 50 to 70 feet for automated storage/retrieval system and warehouse expansion. Bulk variances for parking, loading bays, and drive aisle width. Four staff reports reviewed. Multiple expert witnesses testified. Board requested truck turning diagrams, Route 287 visual rendering, building height comparison survey, and fiber optic installation. Hearing carried to September 25, 2025 for submission of additional materials.
Speaker 0Have a good night sir. I think we're moving on to item number 2225 dash ZB dash 31 slash 32 V Ms N Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Speaker 11Good evening again, board members David Prasad from Bob Smith and Associates here tonight representing the applicant MSN Pharmaceuticals for application 25 ZB 32 V. Tonight we are seeking preliminary and final site plan approval with a D six height variance pursuant to 40 55 D 70 dash 70 D six. The applicant tonight is proposing to expand the existing warehouse building and also proposing to extend the height of the building or a portion of the building from where 50 feet is permitted to 70 feet. The purpose of that 70 foot height variance is for an inventory conveyor system, as I mentioned, and for additional storage space. Currently the property is utilized by MSN Pharmaceuticals as a pharmaceutical manufacturing and distribution facility with offices. There's also warehouse space for storage. The property was purchased by MSN Pharmaceuticals in 2017 and in that same year they planning board approval under application 17 PB 34 to convert the use from warehousing solely to pharmaceutical manufacturing distribution.
Speaker 11The site has frontage on Duke Road and also at the rear of the property or the south side of the property. There is Route 2 87 and there's substantial buffering between 2 87 and the property as well. In addition to the D variances and the preliminary and final site plan application, we are seeking some bulk variances. One is for off street parking where 653 spaces are required and 206 are proposed. We are seeking a minimum of variance for the minimum number of loading births required where 12 births are required. Three are existing and eight are currently proposed for total for this application, increasing the number of of births. And finally, we are seeking a minimum drive aisle width where 25 feet is required and 24 feet is a, this is highlighted in numerous approvals for this property all the way back to I think 2011.
Speaker 11Tonight we have a number of witnesses and professionals. I have the applicant or a representative for the applicant here. Mr. Vish Vishnu from MSN Pharmaceuticals. I have our engineer, Robert Murray, who is Menlo Engineering. I have the architect, Ms. Suta Shaw from KSD architects and I have a traffic engineer, Mr. John Ray from McDon Ray Associates. And finally, the professional planner, Ms. Christine Kone from Confirm Consulting Group. For the record, I also like to mention that we do have three staff reports from the township. We have the per Piscataway Township staff report dated July 1st, 2025. We have the John t Chadwick planning report dated July 16th, 2025. And we also have a Dolan and Dean report, which we received recently dated August 12th, 2025. That is all that I have. I would like to call my first witness, Mr. AIA from MSN Pharmaceuticals, if the board can swear him in,
Speaker 2Please proceed. Sir, could you raise your right hand please? Mr. Aia, could you raise your right hand please? Yes. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth? Yes. Your name and address please?
Speaker 17VMSN Pharmaceuticals. 20 Duke Road, Picard, New Jersey 0 8 8 5 4.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 17Welcome sir.
Speaker 11Thank you. Mr. Kinneally? Yeah. Mr. Arpaia, can you please describe your role and relationship to Ms. N Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Please?
Speaker 17Definitely Mr. Devin. So I, I check care of the engineering and facilities atm, MS. N Pharmaceuticals. I'm being with Ms. N Pharmaceutical from 2022. I used to work for MSN in India before I come here.
Speaker 11So overall, you've been working for MSN for quite some time just recently in Piscataway?
Speaker 17That's correct.
Speaker 11Okay. Can you tell the board how long MSN has been located in Piscataway in New Jersey?
Speaker 17Yeah, we, MSN purchased this property in 2017, as you mentioned earlier and the same year we received planning board approval to convert the building into pharmaceutical manufacturing and distribution.
Speaker 11And you want to continue your business in Piscataway. Can you please let the board know why you would choose Piscataway in New Jersey?
Speaker 17Yeah, Piscataway is actually great town for a business and to grow our particular location is perfectly suited for SN where we are surrounded by all industries and minimum residential involvement limited. Also the proximity. Our building is right next to the 2 87. It's also our business to minimize travel time and limit traffic in town.
Speaker 11Okay. And the nature of the business again is pharmaceutical manufacturing and distribution, correct?
Speaker 17That is correct. Okay.
Speaker 11Can you please let us know what the hours of operations are for the business?
Speaker 17We are operating from 6:30 AM to 11:00 PM
Speaker 11And that is Monday through Friday?
Speaker 17Yeah, Monday through Friday, that's correct.
Speaker 11How many employees do you currently employ at this location?
Speaker 17Currently we have 110 employees in the site. When we expand our building, we may extend like another 30 more employees we will report. Okay. So altogether one 40.
Speaker 11Okay. Can you explain the reason that we are seeking a 70 foot D six height variance as opposed to 50?
Speaker 17Yeah, MSNI would like to install state out of the automatic storage and retrieval system. It's basically it's operated by robots. We store all our products into the racks. It's a high, high height racks, so the robots we call the material, particular material the robot will pick up and it'll bring it to the particular pickup location and pack location where our, our employee can pack for the delivery.
Speaker 11And you said the racks are high and that that requires robots to utilize? Yes, the, the retrieve the PA pallets, it's
Speaker 17A fully automated storage and retrieval system.
Speaker 11Understood. For the board, can you explain why they're the additional storage space and the automated system is proposed?
Speaker 17See currently whatever products we manufacture it, the site also the parent company, MS and laboratories privately limited. In India, we are using third party warehouse where we are storing all our products. So instead of buying a new property or Joel constructing a new warehouse, we feel like having everything in one place at this site, it's easy for us to increase our efficiency also instead of, I don't know how the residents locally will take, if we construct the new facility, it's better to have all in one house. That's why we feel this will be beneficial to the town as well as MSN to construct, extend this building to suit our needs.
Speaker 11So just to clarify for the board, it it seems, and as we all know, warehousing is not a great business model in Piscataway at the time or anywhere in New Jersey. So it's true that you are expanding your warehouse to avoid building another. Is that correct?
Speaker 17That's correct.
Speaker 11Currently, can you explain how many deliveries by truck you receive per day?
Speaker 17Approximately three to three to four trucks at.
Speaker 11Okay. And with the ex, with the proposed expansion of this facility, how many trucks are you expected to increase?
Speaker 17We're expecting a to 10, which includes 3, 2, 4 inbound and 4 2 6 bound.
Speaker 11Okay. Also your site is, as you mentioned, closes at 10:00 PM How many are the lights on in the facility around the parking now around the building until 11:00 PM Or is it that they remain on
Speaker 17Currently the light remain on throughout the night until morning after.
Speaker 11Okay. And if we can, I would like to address some of the items on the staff reports. First item would be item number three on the Piscataway Township staff report. Can we agree for all EV charging stations to be operational at the time A CEO was granted?
Speaker 17Yes.
Speaker 11Okay. Item number five on the, the Piscataway Township staff report. Can MSN install the fiber optic conduits along the property frontage?
Speaker 17Yes. Agreed.
Speaker 11And finally, for the John t Hagley planning report, item number eight, it is a concern for the township that the lights remain on 24 7. Is it possible that we can turn the lights off during non-business hours?
Speaker 17It's possible, yes.
Speaker 11Okay. That is all the questions I have for this witness. If the board does have any questions.
Speaker 0Jonathan, do you wanna address each expert each time? Professional? I should say what? Do you wanna wait till the end to surmise?
Speaker 4I can do it as they come up so it's all fresh. Perfect. If that's okay.
Speaker 0Proceed. So
Speaker 4My question is regarding the retrieval system, I'm assuming something this state of the art is modular in nature, it's gonna be custom fabricated for the, for the space?
Speaker 17That is correct, Jonathan.
Speaker 4So why can't we come down in height for the expansion? Why does it have to be 70 feet?
Speaker 17Basically the number of pallets we have limited space. The pallets are high. Numbers are high. So we wanted to go high to increase the number of pallets we can store.
Speaker 4And this is for a increase in capacity for future, for future expansion or is this based on a, an existing need?
Speaker 17It's for the future expansion as well as existing at both.
Speaker 4Okay. I do have questions that I'm gonna say for other professionals. Okay. But if, if it's for future need and it's not an immediate, if it's not for the immediate operations of the business, it's modular in nature, I, I would want see it reduced in height.
Speaker 0Okay. Thank you Jonathan. Mr. P Thank you Prasad, please put on your next professional.
Speaker 11Sure. For my next witness, I do have Mr. Robert Murray.
Speaker 0Hold on. Hold on. John.
Speaker 18Yeah, I don't know whether this is to the representative or not. You planning to put any signage on this building?
Speaker 17Sorry, can you repeat the question please? Sir,
Speaker 18Are you planning to put any signage on this building?
Speaker 17Existing signage are sufficient for us now,
Speaker 18So. So there's no signage proposed on this new building?
Speaker 17We have already signage at the front and back of the building.
Speaker 0So that's gonna remain the same? Yes.
Speaker 11Remain the same? Correct.
Speaker 0Got it. Okay.
Speaker 18And you commented on the lighting it happens to be item seven I just for the record and the colors of the building, I assume that's an architect's Yeah. Response. Okay.
Speaker 0Thank you John. And
Speaker 18Do, no, just one other thing. Do you know if there's anything on the top of the roof or is that again the architect?
Speaker 11The architect will address that as as well.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 19Okay.
Speaker 11So yeah Mr. Thank you for the next witness. I have Mr. Robert Murray from Menlo Engineering, if the board can swear him in.
Speaker 2Mr. Murray, are you present?
Speaker 19Yes.
Speaker 2Could you raise your right hand? Yes. Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 19I do.
Speaker 2Your name and address please.
Speaker 19Robert Murray, 2 61 Cleveland Avenue, Highland Park, New Jersey.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 11Thank you. Mr. Kinneally. Robert, can you please give the board the benefits of your qualifications?
Speaker 19Yes, I graduated Stevens Institute Technology in 2017 with a bachelor's degree in civil engineering. I've been a professional engineer for four years now and I provided testimony in front of numerous boards in New Jersey, including Piscataway.
Speaker 11And your license is current and in good standing? Yes.
Speaker 19Thank you. Qualifications are fine. Please proceed. Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker 11Mr. Murray, if you can please explain to the board the current layout, the proposed layout and other engineering factors that are taking place in the site improvements, if you don't mind.
Speaker 19Yes. If I can present our existing conditions exhibit
Speaker 11And we can mark that as a one.
Speaker 19Can everyone see Yes, thank you.
Speaker 19Which this is a aerial photograph of the site and its surrounding areas. And just to orientate my drawings tonight, north is up. The property better known as 22 road is lot 10.01 a block 43 0 2 in Piscataway Township. The site is located south of Duke Road, west of Freeway Drive and north of 2 87. Access is provided off both Duke Road and Freeway drive. Overall the property is approximately 15.48 acres and is located entirely within the LI five light industrial zone. The site is also surrounded by industrial uses within the LI five zone as it exists today. The site is currently a 236,851 square foot industrial building with 33.5 feet in height. This includes office warehouse manufacturing and lab. Also, the site has an existing 1,125 square foot accessory building, which is currently not being used.
Speaker 19The site has currently has 402 spaces along the south and the west side, and three existing loading spaces on the east side of the building. Now if I could present our overall plan exhibit, which is a colorized rendering of the submitted site O overall plan with the aerial background and landscape turn on, the applicant is proposing a 55,477 square foot warehouse addition with an 88,984 square foot roof extension to 70 foot in height. The applicant seeks to demolish the existing accessory building and a portion of the parking to the south of the building. The proposed conditions will have 206 spaces, which 653 is required, eight of which are EV spaces and seven of which are a DA spaces. The spaces will be nine by 18. The site has a existing nonconformity of a 24 foot aisle width, but the applicant is proposing a 30 foot width to the south of the proposed building. Proposed addition, excuse me, site improvements also include a five foot sidewalk crosswalk and a DA compliant ramps on the south end of the building. The site will utilize existing utilities and other improvements include lighting and landscaping. For landscaping, 17 trees are removed. However, 22 deciduous trees are provided, which meets the Piscataway Township ordinance.
Speaker 19The site will utilize existing lighting with the addition of two wall-mounted LED fixtures approximately 22 feet high. This will provide a minimum of 0.5 foot candles and an average of 2.3 in the parking area and provide safe and adequate lighting meeting. Township standard, the site is considered a major development since it disturbed over an acre of land. Therefore, stormwater management is required. The site site will accomplish stormwater management by maintaining the amount of impervious coverage for quantity and recharge requirements and reducing motorized vehicle surface to satisfy the water quality regs. Existing non-conformity of the site include loading where, where eight is provided but only 12 are required. Parking aisle width where 24 exists, where 25 is required parking variance where 206 spaces are provided, where 653 are required. Variance include the building height where 50 50 feet is required, where 70 is proposed.
Speaker 19I also have read the professional letters and I have no problem with satisfying the comments. However, I do wanna draw attention to two of the comments on Dolan and Dolan's letter from August 12th. 12th comment. SP two, the operation will have WB WB 67 tractor trailer and comment SP four. The comment ask whether circulation can be maintained with a 60 foot long loading space. The operation of the site will have the first tractor trailer to come in on site to load in the southernmost bay and all others following will take the next one north. After parked the tractor trailer, the cab will be detached and parked on site. Therefore, circulation will be maintained. However, if the board looks favorable on this application, we can work with the board professional to satisfy any comments they have on trailer trailer movement. And that concludes my portion of the testimony.
Speaker 11Thank you Mr. Murray. I have no direct questions as you address the Dolan and Dean report. Does any, it's up to the board or to the board professionals. Is there any other questions for Mr. Murray?
Speaker 0Yeah, I was wondering if Jonathan wanted to jump in on this too based
Speaker 4On Yeah, thank you Mr. Mayor. I'm definitely gonna want a truck turning diagram showing it. It's fine if you wanna show just the, just the trailer parked in one of the bays. But I wanna see the ability of a fire truck as well as another delivery truck being able to access these bays with the trailer being stored in the bay. So that's something that we're gonna want to see. 'cause I, I have some serious concerns about circulation, especially for, for emergency vehicles, if any of those bays are being used, I'm, I'm okay with the, the preexisting nonconformity with the aisles. The, the parking I, i, I just wanna highlight the, the traffic engineers report about 140 spaces are estimated to be used where 200 spaces are being proposed. And those were my main, those were my main points. Thank you for addressing all, all the comments. Otherwise,
Speaker 0Thank you Jonathan. Any other members of the board have any questions or comments for Mr. Murray?
Speaker 18Mr. Chairman, I, oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 0No, jump in sir.
Speaker 18There's that small building in the back. One plan shows it remaining the architectural plan and your plan shows it. Mr. Murray removed who's right.
Speaker 19The, the accessory building will be removed and we can revise plans to be consistent.
Speaker 18Alright. And there was one other item. Are you involved with a lighting plan and can these lights be extinguished during non-business hours but for security lighting?
Speaker 19Yes, as the, a applicant explained, we can comply with your comments on lighting.
Speaker 18I wasn't sure if he did or not, but that's fine.
Speaker 4And just to piggyback off of that, John, can we, can we add shielding to the, the lights along the, the, the parking lot with the adjacent building on Duke?
Speaker 19Yes.
Speaker 4Okay, great.
Speaker 0That it Sean?
Speaker 18That's
Speaker 0It. Thank you sir. Any other members of the board,
Speaker 21Mr. Chairman? Yes, this is Betsy Dolan Dolan and Dean, I just wanted to echo Jonathan's comments about the vehicle circulation. I did have some offline dialogue with Mr. Murray, but I agree that those template diagrams should be submitted and I'm fine with the parking variance. I ran ITE numbers and I think the analysis by McDonough Ray, which you're gonna hear probably next I'm satisfied with. But I agree the circulation exhibit should be provided.
Speaker 0Great. Great. Thank you Betsy. You are
Speaker 21Welcome.
Speaker 0Devin. You can proceed with your next professional.
Speaker 11Thank you Mr. Chair. I do, John Ray is not next. I do have the architect up next. So I'll address some of the other comments and to give you some renderings of the building. So if I can call Ms. Shta Shaw from KSD architects and have her sworn in.
Speaker 22Hi everyone. Can you hear me?
Speaker 0Excuse me a second. Ms. Nory, can you unshare your screen please?
Speaker 19Yeah, I'm, I'm trying to find where the button is. No problem. I'm sorry. No problem.
Speaker 2Well, we're doing that. Ms. Shah, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 22I do.
Speaker 2Thank you. Your name and address, please?
Speaker 22Sure. Suta Shah, spelled S-U-C-H-I-T-A, Shaw, SHAH. Address is one Liberty Way in Cranberry, New Jersey.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 11Ms. Shaw, if you can please give the board the benefit of your qualifications and whether your license is current and in good standing.
Speaker 22Sure thing. I am a registered licensed architect in New Jersey as well as 10 other states. I was a graduate of PR institute with a bachelor of architecture in 2013. And I have presented or testified in front of at least 20 boards. I haven't kept count
Speaker 0Qualification, qualifications are acceptable. Please proceed. Thank you.
Speaker 11Thank you Mr. Chair. Ms. Shaw, if you can please describe the building modifications that we are seeking, including the height and also if you can address the comments on Mr. Chadwick's report regarding the mechanical equipment and the additional signage and also the color palette.
Speaker 22Sure thing. I'm going to share my screen. Okay. Can everybody see the, the photo?
Speaker 0Yes. Yes.
Speaker 22Okay, great. So this is just to show what's existing on the site at the, at the moment. I was lucky enough to be with KSD architects at the time of the 2017 alterations inside this building. And glad to be kind of on the team again.
Speaker 0One second, one second. No.
Speaker 22Yes. Sorry. Was there a question?
Speaker 0No, I think that's okay. Please proceed in shock.
Speaker 22Okay. All right. So this is the existing site aerial view, and I will go over the plan first. Just give it a second to load, please. Okay. So this is, we're looking at, sorry, let's start from here. SK one dated February 15th, 2025 completed by KSD architects. This is a, an existing building expansion plan showing the building as is in the hatched markings here, it's about 236,000 square feet. We are proposing two additions, one on the south side of the building and one to the northeast side of the building as was described. And I will go to the next slide here to SK two to to show you kind of the different roof levels that are proposed. So all the hatch diagonal hatch markings that you see are existing to remain roof heights. The gray solid hatches are the areas that are proposed. So you'll see again that south side addition being proposed at 70 feet of height, and you'll see the northeast addition at 28 feet height.
Speaker 22In addition, the center portion of the building to the east side will be added in height to 70 feet. It is currently about 38. Most of it is currently about 38 feet high. There are different levels back here. So we are proposing those additions. These are elevations of the existing and proposed ex expansions. And I'm gonna show you a little bit better of view of these. I I understand that 2D can sometimes be a little confusing, especially in this kind of varied roof level situation. We're going to see, give it a second again to kind of load. Okay, so you did see in the first slide I showed you on this new sheet called existing site dated August 14th, 2025.
Speaker 22What we are proposing to do is shown on the second page, it's called R 1 0 1. Sorry, these are large kind of photo files. So, okay, so here's the existing building and here's the expansion. So you can see that most of the expansion is going to be at that 70 foot height to aesthetically kind of tie everything together. Again, nobody's gonna see that from an aerial bird's eye view. They're gonna see something like this and even this is kind of an exaggerated view since nobody's really gonna be in the trees when they're looking at the building. But just to give you an idea of what the expanse of the building will look like, again, this is all quoted as sheet R 1 0 2 and we're showing again, the existing building up to about this line is where it's existing. And then we're going to, this is where the, I think, south side expansion is going to be.
Speaker 22So to kind of address some of the questions in the reports and that we're kind of asked today, I'll go into first the, let's go first I'll, I'll answer the signage question. There are no building signs proposed. There are no building new building signs proposed as Vishnu was kind of referring to. We have building signage already at the front entrance and that will remain the front entrance. And as this, this is all one building, there is no need for new signage to get into the material palette. A lot of these materials were selected to compliment what's already there. So when we did the, the alteration in 2017 to 2021, that kind of period of time where, where MSN was renovating this and then they, they changed the facade a bit. We added a modernized NHA panel, which is kind of shown here. It's, it's a brick looking panel, but it's made out of fiber cement.
Speaker 22We're gonna just extend that throughout the facade. And we also had these aluminum composite panels bordering the top. We're going to extend that as well to the end, to the south end. So those are all, we have the existing material pallet that we used back at that renovation. We are going to continue that to kind of tie the building together. And the rest of the building is actually gonna be, again, niha panel on the bottom or base. And then there are two different alum aluminum composite panel that will be used. One will be sort of a kingspan blue, which is what we're calling Chicago blue in a Benjamin Moore color. And the other will be a gray. That is the clear mica that you see right here. These are just like the existing, these are the two existing colors that are on the building currently. And then the white looking border is actually a light gray called alabaster. So these are actual colors and actual manufacturers that will match and complement what is already at the existing building. So I think I, I hope I've satisfied, I think the material question, if there, if there's any specific question to that, I can certainly go further
Speaker 11Before we go into those questions. Ms. Shaw, can you just address the comment about rooftop mechanical equipment? Yes,
Speaker 22Absolutely. So, so the, the rooftop mechanical of the existing building, I'll just show you where it is and fortunately the addition is actually going to cover a lot of that. So in, in the 2021, let's say renovation, we had a lot of rooftop equipment that was added on this side of the building. Now that you see that we're going to kind of add the portion to the south of the building that will be screened naturally because of the building. And I'll show you that in a second. The, so that, so that rooftop mechanical, it's not shown here or depicted here, but it will, it will stay, it will be existing to remain, it will just be screened by this. So now 2 87 has no chance of seeing it. They, they can say it now anyways, the other, so the added portions of the building, which are storage, basically warehouse functions, they're not particularly complex or need any type of special mechanical attention.
Speaker 22So they don't need like to maintain a certain temperature or maintain a certain humidity or anything like that. So really what we're talking about are regular small, independent units that you see on everyday warehouses. It's just to maintain comfort for the people who are working inside the warehouse. So there are these like small DX units that we call that will sit on top of the roof and they are going to be sort somewhat centered. So you won't again see them from the roof line anyway by code. They need to be a certain number of feet from the edge. So there will not be any type of vision to them as well as any need for screening of those.
Speaker 11Understood. Thank you Ms. Shaw, I have no further questions of Ms. Shaw if the board or the professionals do. Yeah, I was wondering if
Speaker 0Jonathan wanted to address anything. It'd be great.
Speaker 4I can get started. Ms. Shaw, have you done a cross section through the highway to the proposed edition? Do you have that topo in your model?
Speaker 22We don't have it in in the model, but I believe that would be the next step. I, I know that there would be a sort of a grading plan done by our site engineer and certainly that would be a, a next
Speaker 4Step. Yeah. 'cause I, I, I think of a visual impact assessment from a driver on the road. I mean, we're talking, it, it's, it's like 200 feet from the, from the drive aisle of 2 87. So a 70 foot tall structure is definitely gonna be within the view shed. I I know the picture you took is kind of from ground level on the side, which is a little bit, which is a little bit different. So I think I, I I think I'd want to see either a cross section or a rendering taken from 2 87 looking at the building. It's also if there's any consideration to swapping the blue with the gray, kind of taking a, having a almost camouflage it, tricking the eye thinking that it's more sky than building. But I, I don't know if there's any, anything else we could do to visually pair this down.
Speaker 22That that's a great, that's a great point, Jonathan. Actually, we did it this way to kind of neutralize it as it goes up, believe it or not. So I, I believe that this may actually stick out less if the color is towards the bottom, if that makes sense. Okay. So that was a consideration if that matters.
Speaker 4It does, thank you.
Speaker 22I do, I do. We're we're happy to do a rendering from 2 87, but I, I do know that there's, there's no, there's really no chance that they're gonna see anything. There's a whole tree line on that side if you kind of see it from now. I don't know what the, the size of the trees are. We can definitely, we can definitely look into that, but as you can see, like there's a natural, it's a beautiful natural screen that, that will prevent really anything. And, and they're, they're, you know, pin, they're evergreen confers, so I don't think they would be seen from,
Speaker 4And, and I did have the applicant in last year for removing a bunch of trees. They're not in the best health and it's fairly mature, so I, I wouldn't be surprised if more of those trees are on their way out. So that, that's why I'm, why I'm asking.
Speaker 22That's a good
Speaker 18Point. I, I'd like, I'd like to jump in on this comment with, I agree with Jonathan. I mean, we all go up down 2 87 multiple times a day, some of us, and you can see a lot of these buildings all along 2 87. So this is going to be one of the bigger buildings in that corridor. And the coloring system to me needs to try to minimize the scale of this building as opposed to emphasizing it. And I think the blue collar does emphasize the scale of this building as opposed to minimize.
Speaker 24Okay.
Speaker 18But I think that the gist, gist of this is what is the impact to the 2 87 corridor as you go along. And we don't have that cut, right?
Speaker 24We,
Speaker 11If it does please a board, we, we can work with the architect and also the applicant and try to get a rendering. So it's a more visual exhibit to show the, the visual impact from 2 87, if that would satisfy the board. Yeah,
Speaker 0I mean that would be appreciated.
Speaker 18Yeah. The be ga jump from 50 feet to 70 feet is not, not insignificant.
Speaker 0Okay.
Speaker 18I mean, there's no question that Piscataway master plan speaks to its economic base and, and courage, expansion, retention, et cetera. But there has to be a balance to that
Speaker 11Understood. And we absolutely will try to provide all the exhibits that are being requested by both Ms. Chadwick and Ms
Speaker 0Any other members of the board of any questions or comments?
Speaker 25Yeah, I, I, I do, Sean, I look around the property, I don't see any hydrants, what is it with fire suppression around there.
Speaker 11I would defer that question to our, our engineer if Robert can come back.
Speaker 19I, so I did do a site visit earlier today, and I did identify that there is a fire hydrant near Duke Road.
Speaker 25There's only one hydrant
Speaker 19I can, if you give me a moment, maybe after someone else presents, I can check our plans to see where the nearest hydrant is on site besides the hydrant on Duke Road.
Speaker 0Okay. Why don't, David, why don't you proceed with your next professional and we can double back to Mr. Murray.
Speaker 11Will do. Thank you, Mr. Chair. My next witness is Mr. John Ray from Mc Gunn and Ray Associates. He's our traffic engineer if the board can swear him in.
Speaker 0Mr. Ray,
Speaker 26I lost the audio.
Speaker 0No, you there?
Speaker 26Oh, I'm here. I'm, I'm here.
Speaker 2Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 26I do.
Speaker 2Your name and address please.
Speaker 26John Ray, REA. I'm a principal with McDonough and Ray Associates, traffic engineering firm, 1431 Lakewood Road, Manasqua, New Jersey.
Speaker 2Mr. Chairman, I believe Mr. Ray is accepted as an a traffic engineer expert for this board of Prioritizations.
Speaker 0I agree. Please proceed, Mr.
Speaker 26Proceed. Thank you, Mr. Kinneally.
Speaker 11Mr. Ray, if you can please go through the parking and the traffic study that you presented that we submitted to the board as well. Sure.
Speaker 26My, my primary job this evening is to justify the parking variance. I've made several visits to the site to establish the existing parking demand for the first shift. As Vishnu indicated during his initial testimony, there are approximately 110 employees. I don't think they all work on the first shift. The bottom line is the parking observations I made during the first shift revealed a demand of 80 to 85 parked vehicles. We are going to add 30 additional employees with the project if it is improved approved, and if they all work on the first shift, that will bring the parking demand up to approximately 115, maybe 120 parking spaces. 206 spaces are proposed, so therefore we meet the, the actual parking demand and we exceed it, and we will have a healthy surplus of parking spaces. Other than that, I've just reviewed the access to the property, which as it currently exists, we've got great access to 2 87 from to and from the west via Possum Town Road to and from the east via Old New Brunswick Road. Great location for this property and for this operation, as Vishnu has indicated, but primarily my job was to justify the parking variance.
Speaker 0Okay.
Speaker 11I have no further questions for Mr. Ray, if the board of board professionals have any questions?
Speaker 0Jonathan, you wanna jump in? Sir,
Speaker 4The only comment I have for Mr. Ray is have you, given we've been discussing the truck circulation, do you have any comments regarding that?
Speaker 26I, I con, I concur with your comments and Ms. Dolan's comments, and I think Mr. Murray and I will work on that and prepare the truck turning radius templates and provide them to you.
Speaker 0Great, thank you. Thank you Mr. Ray. Any other members have any more questions for this
Speaker 21Mr. Chairman? Just to comment that I also visited the site. I concur with the findings and the parking. We also ran ITE parking. The board knows that the ordinance requires the calculation for the individual use components, and that, in my opinion, is an over-exaggeration. I, I do believe, as Mr. Ray said, there will be a healthy surplus with the renovation more than would be required for this particular user and more than the ITE anticipated demand.
Speaker 0Thank you, Betsy.
Speaker 21You're welcome.
Speaker 0Mr. Murray, do you have any more information about the fire hydrants?
Speaker 19Y Yes. So looking at the site plan, there is a hydrant on the Duke Road fronts. There is a hydrant on the free freeway drive frontage. There's a hydrant on the north of, just north of the building and there's a hydrant on the west side of the building.
Speaker 2Okay. Okay. Can you hear that
Speaker 0Artie?
Speaker 2Yes. Thank you. Sounds
Speaker 0Like there's four on the site. Thank you Mr. Murray. Mr. Basad, please proceed
Speaker 11For my final witness tonight. I have our professional professional planner, Justin Oslo. It was supposed to be Ms. Cone, and Justin is from Confo Consult Confo Consulting Group. So he will be doing the professional planning testimony if the board can swear him in.
Speaker 2Are you present, Mr. What?
Speaker 3Yes, I'm here.
Speaker 2Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 3Yes, I do.
Speaker 2Your name and address, please.
Speaker 3Justin Cielo, A-U-C-I-E-L-L-O 52 Reckless Place, red Bank, New Jersey.
Speaker 2Thank you.
Speaker 3Thank
Speaker 11You. Mr. Cielo, can you please give the board the benefits of your credentials and is your license current and in good standing?
Speaker 3Absolutely. So I have a master's degree from Rutgers. I've been a licensed professional planner in the state of New Jersey since 2008. I provided testimony in front of this board and, and the planning board in the past. My license is current and in good standing, I've provided testimony in approximately 200 municipalities, I
Speaker 0Think. I think we're good. Justin,
Speaker 3You can move on. Thank you.
Speaker 11Thank you, Mr. Kale. Mr. Cielo, if you can please do your analysis for the D six height variance and also if you can address the other bulk variances for off street parking and loading births.
Speaker 3Yes, absolutely. So the D three, I'm sorry, the D six height variance that's covered under the, the Grasso case, that's, that's Grasso versus, versus Spring Lake Heights. And that's essentially the same standard of relief as a conditional use in this instance. It's, it's, it's showing that the site can, you know, can accommodate the excess height, even though of course there, there's the, the exceeding of the height in, in the L one five zone. The l the L one five zone industrial district does anticipate large scale industrial buildings. And I think it's important to kind of set the context upfront that this is the industrial district. This is an area that's right along route Route 2 87. This is an area that has industrial surroundings. Mr. Chadwick, in his letter did state that the site is located in the industrial section of the township, and he went on to say that the building is remote to, to any residential use.
Speaker 3So from a planning standpoint, what that tells me, not just from Mr Chadwick's letter, but from my knowledge of the area and my review of, of the site on foot, this is a height that from a planning standpoint does meet the purpose and the spirit of, of the li five zone. I think as you heard from our site engineer and from the architect, the site can accommodate the site despite the fact that the variance relief is required. As you heard from the operator, the, the height variance is driven by the, the operational requirements of the use. It does enable the, the vertical storage of the use. And what's important here, as was previously stated, that this reduces, since its vertical, obviously that reduces the expansion of the, of the building footprint. That eliminates the need for any new disturbance of lands. And then of course, that eliminates any need to expand or to increase the, the impervious coverage.
Speaker 3So that's the, you know, functional necessity. And with that, with going vertical, that of course has no impact on the setbacks and the buffering. Again, the, this is located along route two 80, route 2 87. I know there were some questions that were asked by the board professionals earlier about the location and any visual impacts. I believe the applicant has, has stated, or the applicant's professionals has stated that some, you know, new exhibits will be provided to prove that there is no, no negative impact in terms of the positive criteria for the height variance, it's my professional opinion that this application would advance criteria A, the promotion of the general welfare, and from that it's the advancement of, of commerce in the township criteria G, which speaks to sufficient space in appropriate locations to accommodate. There is sufficient space, as you heard from the professionals. Again, this is going vertical, it's inappropriate location.
Speaker 3We're not here for a D one use variance. The l the LI five zone anticipates this type of use and, and criteria h free flow of traffic that really goes to the, the parking variance. But still, I would say that with the, the vertical expansion, there is no impact there. And this application as a whole we'll advance the, the free flow of traffic. In terms of the negative criteria for the, the D six variance, from a planning standpoint, I certainly see no substantial detriments of public good. No, no negative shadowing or, or glare that's associated with this application. The applicant has agreed to go, go lights out at the appropriate hours. No substantial negative impact to, to the zone plan. The zoning ordinance, zoning ordinance, as I had previously stated, does, does permit this use. And this is a use that certainly advances the, the, the master band po the master plan policies for business promotion and the advancement of, of these industrial uses.
Speaker 3In terms of the parking variance, you did hear from, from Mr. Ray who, who, who had testified that his analysis showed that the parking is, is sufficient on the site in terms of the, the, the dry vial with as well, I believe Mr. Ray, Mr. Ray had testified that, that, that his, his testimony wa was, was limited mostly to, to the parking. But I believe he, he did state it, he did state that the, the, the, that he found that the width was appropriate. And I believe the, the loading ber variance is a preexisting non-conforming use, which, which again will have no negative impact to the function of the site. Again, it's a vertical expansion. So I think, I think the positive and negative criteria that was stated for the D six variance can apply to the c variance relief that is required as well.
Speaker 11Mr. Cielo, if I just can ask you one question, we are increasing the number of loading bursts to make it more conforming, is that correct?
Speaker 3That is correct. It's more conforming. So it's a, it's a better situation than, than, than currently exists and, and that certainly is a, is a benefit to the site and also the zone plan as well.
Speaker 11Thank you Mr. Oslo. I have no further questions for Mr. Oslo. If the board of the professionals would have any questions,
Speaker 0Any members of the board of any questions or comments?
Speaker 18I just have one quick question. Did you make a, any kind of a survey of 2 87 as to what the highest buildings are along that roadway?
Speaker 3Mr. Chadwick? I did not personally do that. I would, I would defer over to any members of, of the team if, if anyone has that.
Speaker 18Do you have any idea or any of the team, your team members what the height of the hotels are?
Speaker 19Oh, we, we don't have any survey information outside of our site. Okay. So we, we do not have that information.
Speaker 18I mean, I would think it would be beneficial to know that height as a comparison to what you are proposing and that you are not out of character, but we
Speaker 0Don't know. No, John, I agree and based on the fact that we're going to be asking for so far three new items for them to produce for us, I would ask that they could provide that for the next meeting when we will probably vote on this.
Speaker 18I mean, to be candid, it's, we've got other buildings that are higher than 50 feet. And do what degree do they alter the road scape of 2 87? It's right there. I mean it's, but we're, we, we're absent that, so I agree with Chairman Kale, you know, there's a couple things outstanding that are probably best to, to produce
Speaker 11Understood Mr. Chadwick. And as Mr. Kale just mentioned, there are a few things that would help the board and the board professionals feel more comfortable with this application. So we will gladly provide those items. I've taken notes so I can make sure that we get 'em all submitted. And is
Speaker 0Is a month from now too soon,
Speaker 11I will ask the professionals if that's enough time for them to generate these, if, does anyone have any objection for the next hearing next month?
Speaker 0Lo Laura, what date would that be? Huh? September 25th. September 25th. Mr. Psad, could you ask your professionals?
Speaker 11Yeah, Mr. Murray, Ms. Shaw, if that, if that's doable for no, September 25th,
Speaker 0That's doable.
Speaker 11Ms. Shah, if that's okay with you as well?
Speaker 22Yeah, I will not be a bill available personally, but somebody from my firm will be, and we can definitely produce the rendering for that time.
Speaker 11Perfect. I think we can, we can agree to September 25th. Awesome.
Speaker 0All right, well let's move on that then.
Speaker 2All right, well, so should I end of the hearing?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 11Yes. That concludes our testimony and we will generate these and get them submitted to the board for review.
Speaker 2Okay. Anyone here on the MSN pharmaceuticals hearing it is going to be carried to September 25th with no further notice by the applicant. The only notice you're receiving is my announcement here tonight. There will be additional items considered by the board at that time and it will be opened to the public for their comment at that time. Thank,
Speaker 11Thank you.
Speaker 0Thank you Devin. Before we proceed, I would ask that if any of the board members have an opportunity to go out to the site to get a personal line of sight on the height of the proposed height, you know, it would be probably in our best interest if you could get out there between the next month and get a feel for the, for the area. Alright, so let's move on to item number 23 and that's 25 dash zb dash 37 slash 38 V Chanel Inc.
Case 25-ZB-37/38V: Chanel Inc. - Security Fence Installation 25-ZB-3725-ZB-38 AI  01:35:05 – 01:48:56
Chanel Inc. requesting two variances for 8-foot security fence at 876 Centennial Avenue to address unauthorized after-hours access and trespassing. Fence includes decorative steel picket section and chain link portions. Concern raised about spikes on fence top; applicant agreed to flush top or architectural closure. Conditions: fiber optic conduit installation, memorandum of restriction for sanitary easement, and underground mark out required. Application approved with conditions.
Speaker 28Good evening. My name is Lindsay Knight and I am managing council real estate for Chanel.
Speaker 2Good evening.
Speaker 28Good evening.
Speaker 2Please proceed.
Speaker 28Thank you. We are here tonight with respect to our property at 8 76 Centennial Avenue. We are requesting to install a fence on the property for security purposes. We unfortunately have had multiple instances of unauthorized persons accessing the property after hours, including large groups of cars that are doing burnouts in the parking lot. We have people who have been using our EV chargers who are not authorized, as well as people who are sleeping in the parking lot. So obviously this is a security concern for us as well, for our employees as well as for the general public. So installing this fence would permit us to be able to close the property off from 10:00 PM
Speaker 0Sorry, go ahead. Okay.
Speaker 28So that would this, this would allow us to close the property off from 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM Monday through Saturday and all day on Sunday. So accordingly, we are requesting two variances. First from 21 6, 19 0.2 to permit a portion of the fence to be located within an easement. And the second is from 21 dash 6 0 1 to permit an eight foot high fence. We are in receipt of both the staff report dated August 6th, 2025, and the report from Mr. Chadwick dated August 14th, 2025. I saw there were some items noted therein for discussion, so please let us know how you would like to proceed,
Speaker 0But Jonathan, first, I guess
Speaker 4Gladly, Ms. Knight, could you help clarify where the picket style fence is being proposed?
Speaker 28Yes, I'm actually going to ask Anton Williams from our Asset Protection group to share the survey and walk through that.
Speaker 4Perfect. Thank you.
Speaker 2Do I need to swear him in?
Speaker 30Yes,
Speaker 0Ms. Knight, does he have to be sworn in?
Speaker 2Yes. Mr. Wigs, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony about the gifts should be the truth?
Speaker 30Yes.
Speaker 2Could you just identify yourself by name and your position?
Speaker 30It's Anton Williams. I'm the director of asset protection in our corporate space.
Speaker 2Thank you. Please proceed.
Speaker 30Okay, share my screen. Two. Okay. This is our print and yeah, let's see. Oh yeah, share. There you go. All right, this is our print. And let me just zoom in here just so you get an idea where Centennial Ave is and on the corner of Centennial and Knights Bridge of the fence, which will be our steel fence, will be this part here with the Xs and it will run adjacent to the building on top of our berm all the way into the entrance of the, of the building where the trucks go in. And then the, the, the fence will turn into the parking area and this particular area here will be a closed fence that will close the property so that if a truck does happen to pull off or into that particular space, the truck will clear the roadway.
Speaker 30Here is where the fence, another fence will block the parking area for our employees and it will run against the inside of the berm to the rear of the parking area. And then that's when a chain link fence will run into the back space behind the parking area, hugging the parking area. Until we get to bear with me here till we get to the end here where Fitz Randolph would be. The Shah chain link will continue to the entrance on Fitz Randolph, where we'll have a double side swing gate, and then that fence will connect into our secondary parking space where there will be a sliding fence and then another chain link fence that will touch the back of the building. And this particular fence will protect that parking lot where we have incidents.
Speaker 4Does that answer your question, Jonathan? Yes, that's helpful. So understanding that that fence along Knights Bridge with the, with the spikes is gonna be more of a, a visual deterrent, correct?
Speaker 30Yes.
Speaker 4Yeah, so I I I think the, the, the spikes have to be revised. It's just not, it's not permissible. So there is, just for the board's awareness, there is landscaping on that berm along Knightsbridge Road. So if we were to remove the spikes, I I would be open to the, I'd be open to the height allowance. However, the fiber optic would also have to be installed along the frontage as we're requesting with applications of this kind on commercial properties. And then I, I also have some concerns about the location of the fence relative to the sanitary easement as well as the flood zone.
Speaker 4So the sanitary easement, you're, you're well inside, you're well inside that easement especially Yeah. There, you're just kind of on the corner, but further, further to the side. Yeah. So you're well into the easement area there. I'm just worried about our underground structures that the town maintains. So full underground mark out would be required prior to the installation of the fence. And if the fence does need to deviate from the plan to avoid any underground structures, I would request that they either come back before the board if it's significant or a new layout would have to be proposed and approved prior to the fence installation. And I'd also request a memorandum of restriction in case we do need to access any of those underground sanitary improvements if the fence gets installed. Okay.
Speaker 2Ms. Knight are, are, is the applicant willing to agree to all of that?
Speaker 28I, I would actually appreciate if we could have a little more information on the fiber optic. This was the first we learned of this request today, so I, I'd like to understand a little bit more about that process.
Speaker 4Sure. So the fiber optic conduit would be two four inch PVC lines along Knights, the frontages along Knightsbridge Road as well as Centennial. They're for township use and a lateral would be required to be run from the, the dual conduit to the frontage of the building. So with it being two faces, I, I think you, you'd likely do the lateral lung centennial. That would be, that would be, again, for, for township use in the future. We're just trying to get fiber optics set up around town.
Speaker 28And is that something that then connects into an existing system?
Speaker 4We're creating that system, so we'll connect into neighboring properties as they improve their lots as well.
Speaker 28Okay.
Speaker 18This, this facility's been Jonathan probably five, six years now or longer than that. The fiber optic policy
Speaker 4Two years at most, I believe.
Speaker 18But it's been, it is been in operation then for full two years. So all of the businesses in town are doing this, this type of facility. It's obviously looking to future,
Speaker 0I think it's been longer than two years. I think they've been, I i
Speaker 18I do too
Speaker 0Implemented around five Yeah, before COVID. I know that. Yep. So I think it's longer than that, but it's SOP Now when it comes to approvals here,
Speaker 18I'd just like to clarify the issue of spikes on top of the decorative fence. I'm in favor of the dec decorative fence. I think it adds something to the site. Jonathan, what were you thinking? Did you just cut 'em off flat on the rail or, well, the different terminate on it. I mean, I,
Speaker 4Let me pull up, I
Speaker 18Had one in front of one of my houses. They had like a little hearts on the top. I mean you couldn't, they're purely architectural.
Speaker 4There's no reason why the, why the, the rail, the top rail that can't just be moved up and it would cover the spikes and the top rail would just run along the top of the fence.
Speaker 18I, I I, I would rather see it project and put some kind of an architectural closure on the end. I, I just don't think it would look correct with just those rails coming up to a, a cross piece. Are you Lindsay okay with that in terms of putting on I tried to get ahold of the offense manufacturer and I was unable to on two occasions, so I would think this manufacturer that submitted all the specs, the various types of fences can come up with something that is decorative and not dangerous.
Speaker 28Yes. Mr. Chadwick Anthony Bago is actually on the call with us tonight. Anthony, would you be able to respond to this request?
Speaker 0Yes,
Speaker 31Absolutely.
Speaker 0Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth?
Speaker 31Yes.
Speaker 0Your name and address please?
Speaker 31Anthony Pano. Statewide fence 6 5 1 South Avenue, Garwood, New Jersey.
Speaker 0Thank you.
Speaker 31Yeah. In terms of options for the flush or for the horizontal top rail on the ornamental fence, it can be, we can do a flush top rail or we could have the standard press point. The standard press point for, you know, an aluminum or steel fence is not, not typically a hazard concern as you stated, John,
Speaker 18You don't have anything. Some of the WR fences where the rails were had some generally some kind of a almost heart shaped top to 'em.
Speaker 31Right? So yeah, it's a, it's a press point pickets when they actually crush the end of the, the, the tubular material, it, it creates that point. Point. And then it's obviously
Speaker 18Your answer is no, then you don't have anything that you can attach to it.
Speaker 31Well, there's, there's a few different options, but flush top is, would be the standard for say, like a playground fence.
Speaker 4I, I wouldn't, I would prefer to see a flush top or
Speaker 18Top. Well, I, I, I'm not getting a good answer. I agree with you Jonathan. Yeah, I think it would look better if it could be done the way I was talking, but let, let's not go any further. We beat this to death.
Speaker 0Thank you John. Appreciate it.
Speaker 4Okay,
Speaker 0John, you good? Jonathan,
Speaker 4If they agree to the fiber optic memorandum of restriction revising the fence, I'm okay.
Speaker 2Yes, we can agree to that. Thank you. Awesome.
Speaker 0Okay. Any, any other members of the board have any questions or comments? Lindsay, that was your last professional?
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 0Okay. Hearing nothing from the board, I'm gonna open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions or comments about this application?
Speaker 1No one chairman.
Speaker 0Okay. Hearing none, I'm gonna close the public portion and I'd make a motion to approve this application with the restrictions that Jonathan just gave.
Speaker 2I'm making an motion.
Speaker 0Okay. Can I get a second? I'll second please call the roll.
Speaker 1Sorry. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Yes. Mr. Regie? Yes. Mr. Blo? Yes.
Speaker 0Mr.
Speaker 1Hika? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. And Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Knight, your application has been approved. We'll memorialize it in a written document at our next meeting and we'll send that document to you.
Speaker 0Thank you. Good night. Good day.
Speaker 2Have a good night. Alright,
Speaker 0Take care. Let's move on to item number 24, adoption of resolutions from the regular meeting of July 10th, 2025. Mr.
Adoption of Resolutions from July 10, 2025 Meeting AI  01:49:05 – 01:52:11
Board voted on and adopted ten resolutions from prior meeting including Cassie Udin, Omar Haga, Edith Sproul, Eric Kinski, Richard [last name unclear], Amanda Minoff, Grisel De Garcia, James Barrow, and GDO Jail Auto Repair. All resolutions approved unanimously. Heather Fam resolution carried to September 18 as applicant was not present.
Speaker 4Chairman, before we proceed, is Heather fam present on the call?
Speaker 1Oh, I forgot.
Speaker 4Laura, do we see her?
Speaker 1No, there's no one.
Speaker 0Okay. Thank you. Reminding me that John,
Speaker 1Can we move them to the September 18th meeting?
Speaker 2So anybody here, we're gonna carry this in September 18th with no further notice.
Speaker 1Thank you.
Speaker 0Appreci, proceed. You. Thanks
Speaker 1Jonathan.
Speaker 0Good catch.
Speaker 2Cassie Udin, would you vote to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Heya? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Next, Omar Haga. Mr. Vote to approve Mr. Wasteman? Yes. Mr. Patel? Mr. Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Hea? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Edith Sproul, which you voted to approve. Mr. Waston? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Hada? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Eric Kinski, which you voted to approve. Mr. Wesson? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr.
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Hada? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Richard, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weissman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. He Duga? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Amanda Minoff. Which you voted to approve. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Oria? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Hay Duga? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Grisel De Garcia, would you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Paducah? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. James Barrow. Would you voted to approve Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Duka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill? Yes. Finally, GDO Jail Auto Repair, which you voted to approve. Mr. Weisman? Yes. Mr. Patel?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. O'Reggio? Yes. Mr. Blount?
Speaker 32Yes.
Speaker 2Mr. Duka? Yes. Mr. Mitterando? Yes. Chairman Cahill?
Speaker 0Yes.
Speaker 2Those are all the resolutions I have tonight.
Adoption of Meeting Minutes and Adjournment AI  01:52:12 – 01:52:28
Minutes from July 10, 2025 regular meeting adopted unanimously. Meeting adjourned.
Speaker 0Okay. Item number 25. Adoption of the minutes from the regular meeting of July 10th, 2025. All in favor say aye.
Speaker 32Aye.
Speaker 0I have number 26. Adjourn. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Alright guys, enjoy the rest of what's left of the summer, you
Speaker 2September.