Transcript for Piscataway Ems meeting on October 23 2023
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Speaker 1 00:00:09 Okay, a few other people are gonna be joining from the wait list. Today's date is October 23rd. This is the EMS Advisory Council meeting for October. The time is now 1800 hours. I'm interim EMS coordinator James Parent and I called the meeting to order. Speaker 1 00:00:31 Adequate notice of this meeting has been provided as required under chapter 2 31 PL 1975, specifying the time, date, location, login or dial-in information and to the extent known the agenda by posting a copy of the notice on the municipal building municipal court and two municipal library bulletin boards municipal website and providing a copy to the official newspapers of the township. And by filing a copy in the office of the township clerk in accordance with a certification by the clerk, which will be entered into the meeting minutes. In order to make sure a clear record of this meeting can be made and that all parties are heard in an organized fashion, all members of the public will be muted during this meeting. If a member of the public wishes to speak during any public comment portion, please raise your hand. This can be done either through the Zoom app or by pressing star nine on your phone. Speaker 1 00:01:24 I will unmute members of the public individually if they have their hand raised. When it is your turn to speak, you will get a prompt or request to unmute. Please click on the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute. Upon being unmuted, you should begin to ask any and all questions you may have. You will have three minutes to speak at the conclusion of which you'll be muted again and the advisory committee or administration will respond as necessary. Each member of the public shall only have one opportunity to speak during each public portion. As a technology does not allow us to know if there are multiple callers on an individual line. We ask that you wish to speak. You dial in on a separate line so we know we can recognize you as a separate individual. Individuals may also submit written comments to the EMS coordinator up to 48 hours prior to the meeting to be read by the EMS coordinator during the public comment portion of the meeting said Comments shall be limited to three minutes of reading. Please stand with me for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice are pro. Speaker 1 00:02:43 Thank you. You can be seated and roll. Call Mr. Dacey. He is not here. Chief pil Speaker 0 00:02:54 Present Speaker 1 00:02:58 River Road Rescue Squad. Representative Mr. Shaki. Speaker 2 00:03:02 Present Speaker 1 00:03:05 River Road's alternate Speaker 0 00:03:08 Present. Speaker 1 00:03:12 North Dalton Rescue Squad. Ms. Green Speaker 3 00:03:15 Present Speaker 1 00:03:18 And do you have an alternate here today? Speaker 3 00:03:23 I wanna say John's phone is John Scarpa Speaker 0 00:03:26 I believe. Speaker 1 00:03:27 Okay. And Ms. Farmer don't see her in here. Speaker 0 00:03:37 Yes, Speaker 4 00:03:38 This is me. Speaker 1 00:03:39 Okay. Thank you. Mr. Guzman? I don't see him in here. And any township coun council members wanna make their appearance noted for the record. Okay. And I do see township attorney Mr. Baker. Speaker 0 00:04:06 Hello everyone. Speaker 1 00:04:08 Hey Mr. Baker. Okay, we do have four voting members on this meeting. So we do have quorum. Was there any unfinished business that we need to go over? Speaker 3 00:04:28 So I think I've brought this up in the past. I was just trying to reiterate or ask why the township doesn't choose to use JFK for dispatch. I saw that there's been a lot of job postings for dispatchers for Piscataway and I was just wondering why they do not utilize JFK in that capacity. Speaker 1 00:04:47 You're talking about just for the EMS portion of our dispatch? Speaker 3 00:04:50 Yes. Speaker 4 00:04:53 That's not what we've negotiated in the contract as far as I know. We wanna keep our dispatchers. Speaker 1 00:05:00 Okay, thank you Chief. Speaker 2 00:05:02 I believe, and Mr. Bober can correct me, I believe in the RFP, it was actually offered for a A one, I don't really know the term one push or one button transfer as they do. I think it was mentioned in Edison. Speaker 5 00:05:21 Yeah, that's standard language in all of our responses to RFPs as a regional communication center. It's a capability we have, but there are at this point just as many times that do not take us up on it as there are that do. But you're right Evan it was, it was offered. Speaker 1 00:05:38 Okay. Ms. Green to answer your question. Speaker 3 00:05:41 Yeah, I have a another one though. So we're three years into this five year contract at this point and I was looking for what the township views for the idea of subi subsidizing JFK with volunteer services and Piscataway residents, what their perspective is Still, Speaker 4 00:06:00 Our perspective remains the same. We're everything is working as, as we anticipated. So we're not gonna, we're not gonna mess with that. Speaker 1 00:06:13 Okay. Ms. Green, anything else? Speaker 3 00:06:15 That's it for old business. Speaker 1 00:06:18 Okay. Any other unfinished business? I see a hand, I don't know if this is a Go ahead. Sorry. I'm unmuting you. Are you the member of the public? Speaker 6 00:06:33 It's Patricia Farmer. Speaker 1 00:06:34 Oh, how are you? Speaker 7 00:06:35 Hi. Speaker 6 00:06:39 So my question and I guess it it would be old business 'cause I know we've discussed it before. When would we anticipate meetings being able to be held in person? Speaker 1 00:06:54 Chief, do you have an update on this? Speaker 4 00:06:57 No. That would be something that we would have to talk to Mr. Dacy about. As far as I know this is the way it was gonna remain for the foreseeable future. Speaker 6 00:07:09 Thank you. Speaker 1 00:07:10 Okay. Do you have anything else Ms. Farmer? Okay. Any other unfinished business? We don't see any hands. I'm gonna move on to new business. I just have one. We have to set the EMS advisory Council meeting dates for next year. I've gone through and picked the four dates that are similar to what we've had this year and the year prior, which are January 29th. April 29th, July 29th and October 28th. So January, April and July 29th of each month, which is a Monday night. And then the last meeting of the year would be October 28th, which is a Monday night. I would need a motion to set those meeting dates and that. Then if there's any discussion about those Speaker 7 00:08:10 I'd, I'd give a motion. I'll Speaker 4 00:08:11 Make a motion Speaker 0 00:08:12 Motion. Speaker 1 00:08:12 Okay. Mr. Sikowski and chief coach with a second. Any discussion on those dates? If any scheduling issues come up we can address it. We really need to just make sure that January 29th works with everyone's schedule. Speaker 7 00:08:28 And Jim? Yes, once, once this is set, can you send out calendar invites? Speaker 1 00:08:37 Yes, absolutely. Speaker 7 00:08:39 So we can all automatically have it show up on our calendar. Thank you. Speaker 1 00:08:42 I'll do that. Any objections to the motion for the EMS advisor council meeting dates for next year? Okay. Without objection. So moved. Any other new business? Ms. Green, did you have something? Speaker 3 00:09:00 Yeah, I was looking to see who is coming in from Mutual Aid into Piscataway. If we have a list of who's coming in. 'cause I'm just curious if there's other volunteer organizations that are coming in to Piscataway from Mutual Aid at this time. Speaker 1 00:09:17 Mr. Bober, do you have anything for that? Speaker 5 00:09:19 Yep. Sorry, I was just pulling up the report. It looks like at this point the only mutual aid organization that has been routine as routinely servicing Piscataway has been South Plainfield EMS. I don't think we've had anybody else come in other than South Plainfield over the course of the last, at least two months that I'm looking back at at this point. But I can certainly look back further. Speaker 3 00:09:40 So then to follow up asking the township why is, why South Plainfield over Piscataway units in regards to response times and issues with that? Speaker 4 00:09:56 I don't know what the question is there. Speaker 3 00:09:59 Why is South Plainfield volunteer organization okay to come into Piscataway to serve the residents if the volunteers like aren't able to do so at this time? Speaker 4 00:10:11 They're being, they're being dispatched through JSK, whatever's in their rotation is who is who, you know winds up in, in our town. Speaker 7 00:10:23 So Mark, that may be a question more to you. Speaker 5 00:10:28 Yeah, I can definitely jump in. So ultimately the number of mutual aid requests remains incredibly low. However, what I will say is the response scheme for mutual aid basically has been built over time with units that are routinely part of our response and capable of responding into multiple towns regarding our perspective on mutual aid. If, if somebody is up and running and vetted within our mutual aid system, then you know, ultimately unless a town has an aversion or a a request to us not to send them in, then we will send them. However, at this time I think it's just been a simple level of convenience. South Plainfield EMS has been up on almost a 24 7 basis, definitely became a lot more a part of our mutual aid response scheme as we inherited more responsibility in playing field. And from our perspective it's just been a case of availability without really having to put them up or take them down very often on the board because as it seems they're, they're almost up completely 24 7 at this point. Speaker 1 00:11:42 Thank you Mr. Boberg, did that answer your question Ms. Green? Speaker 3 00:11:45 Yeah. To follow up. Do we think that more rigs are than needed? Does so first off, you're, I work over like I'm under the charge for night, night shift in the ER and your Piscataway trucks that come in and playing field trucks. Those crews are awesome and they're really wonderful and they're great clinicians. Speaker 5 00:12:01 Thank you. Really appreciate that. Speaker 3 00:12:03 My question is, does JFK always have their three trucks in town or at least two or is that an issue with like staffing? Speaker 5 00:12:14 No, JFK always does have a minimum of two trucks in town at any given time and it is usually three. The only time that the third truck is not in town is if the third truck is going on a mutual aid assignment to another town and that would have to be a life threatening emergency. We're not routinely using that third truck outside of town for any other reason. I can tell you that in looking back at the data, the times that we've gone to mutual aid, a fair number of those times have been a fourth due assignment in Piscataway. But again, the numbers themselves are incredibly low. So it looks like probably greater than 90 to 95% of the time at this point, three units in town has been more than sufficient and the number of times that all three units are operating at any given time has been incredibly low. I think in looking at our triggers and in looking at our data collection, the number of times that all three units are operating is somewhere in the 10 to 15% range. So on a regular basis it seems like the town is definitely capably serviced by two units, but having that third unit around and almost always available for response seems to catch the vast majority of all responses within town. Speaker 3 00:13:24 So I was looking at the, the data, unfortunately we just got the recent last three months, 10 minutes before this call, but percentages wise for the month you guys are meeting less than 10 minutes. You know 84, 85, 80 6% in June. I had pulled it across and look that one of the calls were 23 minutes, another one was 18 minutes at midnight. Usually there's not a lot of traffic at midnight. So unless it's a dispatch issue or it's a staffing issue, I'm just curious to know like that 14 15% can make a big difference in response times for like an emergency that's happening. Speaker 7 00:14:07 Mark def you specifics on those? Speaker 5 00:14:10 Yeah, it definitely can. I can pull the outlier job and I can take a look back at that job and find specifically which one you are referring to. In general, when I'm talking percentages, just what I was kind of talking about on that one, Kayla was if you look at last month there was 410 responses and only seven went out to mutual aid. So that's just over 1% of all the jobs that required mutual aid at that time. You know, definitely the idea of operating at about a 90%, that's important for sure. That is the contractual obligation and something that we strive to meet on a regular basis, you know, although it is regrettable that sometimes that fourth job comes in and there is jobs that do fall out. You know, I can say that when it comes to staffing the three units in Piscataway rank up there among the highest priorities that we have. So we are routinely putting the needs of Piscataway at the top of the list and making sure that those three units are staffed on a regular basis Speaker 3 00:15:11 Basis. Would it be helpful to subsidize with volunteers? I'm just trying to understand if you guys are good completely and you guys have it a hundred and percent but it doesn't look like it's a hundred percent. So I'm just trying to understand if like there's room for improvement, like that's what this council is to be is that, you know, it's no longer about North Stelton getting jobs because that's not what it is, but rather looking at the data and figuring out like what we can do better. Speaker 4 00:15:39 Nor can I just say North Stelton hasn't responded to the, to calls since January because you guys are are, you know, are no longer operating. So I I I don't really understand Mark who's a guest, what, what the point of, of the questions here are. Speaker 7 00:15:56 I think if I can jump in chief, I think Kayla's just asking is there anything we could be doing to do it, be doing it better? Not specifically pushing for North Stelton but, but just is there something we can, is there anything we need to do to improve? Is that sort of where you are? Kayla Speaker 3 00:16:13 That's 150%. Again, I have the utmost respect. I started at JFK, I also started on the truck. So this isn't about just North Stone as an organization but rather EMS overall and based on the data is there things that we can do? It's not specifically aimed at Bober or you know JFK, but they're the ones that are serving Piscataway right now. And it was to my understanding that this whole like otherwise what is this, what is this council for if we're not trying to see if there's something that we can improve on. Speaker 7 00:16:44 So then Mark if you can report back for our next meeting if you think there's room for improvement or were those really outliers and you've already gotten the issue addressed. I think that's where Kayla's going. Speaker 5 00:16:58 I I certainly can and and Kayla, I appreciate the sentiment and where you're coming from. What we'll do is we'll take a look at each of the outliers and we'll see if there's any pattern to it. You know, if it involves time of day or day of week or perhaps even the idea that maybe our posting could be set up a little bit better and be distributed across the town in a way that makes it so that the response times are a little better. If we see a trend or a pattern in the outliers, then that's certainly something that we'll bring back to the group. We'll take a look between now and the next meeting for sure. Speaker 3 00:17:29 I appreciate you. I really do. I genuinely appreciate it. Speaker 5 00:17:33 Thank you. Speaker 1 00:17:34 Thanks Mr. Er and thank you for your question Ms. Green, any other new business? Do you have anything else Ms. Green? Speaker 8 00:17:41 I have a follow up question for that discussion. Speaker 1 00:17:44 Okay. Who, who's this? Speaker 8 00:17:46 This? Speaker 1 00:17:49 Go Speaker 8 00:17:49 Ahead. Hello Mark, you had said that mutual aid came in last month seven times. Are we considering that a different agency like a non JFK unit or is that any unit that was not specifically assigned to Piscataway? Speaker 2 00:18:09 We had actually clarified this previously. Dan, I'm Oh I'm sorry I didn't tell you. No I think it's my fault. I forgot to tell you. JFK had stated I believe at the last meeting I actually asked that question mutually from JFK is anything that does not say JFK as they, okay, correct me if I'm wrong. No, Speaker 5 00:18:25 You you got it. Evv. Exactly Speaker 2 00:18:28 Anything that says JFK, no matter the location it's dispatched from is considered a JFK response. Speaker 5 00:18:35 Yep. It's basically binary. It's either us or it's not us. Speaker 2 00:18:39 So mutually mutual mutually not overflow. So overflow is not counted as a a mutual mutually response. Speaker 8 00:18:45 Understood. Speaker 2 00:18:48 I do have some questions of Mr. Per I would ask Mr. Dacy but he's not here ahead. I'm trying to figure out what changed with the township. The impetus as I understood it to go to this 24 7 contracted service was due to failures of EMS as a whole or elsewhere in some way, shape or form as portrayed by the township. And I'm kind of just watching us extremely stray from the RFP and the contract. I'm just curious as to what's changed. Speaker 1 00:19:30 What do you mean how are restrained from the Speaker 7 00:19:32 Contract? Yeah, I think, I think you might find us not agreeing with the premise of your, your question. Okay. So Speaker 2 00:19:40 I'll, I'll gladly explain. In reading through the contract there's really three performance standards that that we see. One is you need to have three ambulances in Piscataway 24 7 reading through the RFP, there was originally three specific hard posts that needed to be maintained and there's this none on scene time that needs to be an ambulance on scene within 10 minutes of dispatch 90% of the time. And all of these things were significant portions of either the RFP or the contract as executed. And it seems as though if I'm reading everything correctly and the questions that we've been asking throughout, we just seem to not be meeting these KPIs or they seem to be suddenly irrelevant over time. You know the ambulances, we allow JFK to post them wherever they need them, which I, I do agree is actually for the benefit that, but that's not what went out in the RFP. Speaker 2 00:20:35 Looking at the on time percentage for JFK, while you have an average of somewhere between I'd say seven to eight minutes, which is fantastic, the on time percentage as offered never has hit 90% once in the six months of data that we've been given. And in a previous meeting we were told that JFK could utilize one of the three ambulances for mutual aid, which Mr. Bober just confirmed and we was also, I think Chief Moser at the time confirmed that a second ambulance can be pulled with the permission of the watch commander. And these are all like three pretty significant tenants in my opinion and our opinion of both the contract and the RFP and they all seem to have gone, they seem to have become not as important. So we're just trying to figure out if the time doesn't matter as much, if the posts don't matter as much, if the number of ambulances don't matter as much what happened. Speaker 1 00:21:34 Sure, I can, I can cut in. You're kind of piggybacking off what Ms. Green brought up earlier, but just to touch on a few points, the three ambulances in town 24 7, you know they have to go out of town. We don't have any major emergency room hospitals in town so at some point they have to be out of town transporting the patient, delivering the patient to the hospital. Mr. Bober did say that sometimes and a rig could go out of town for mutual aid, for life-threatening emergencies. I don't think anyone would argue that that would be inappropriate or misappropriation of our resources. The hard posts, we went over this a couple meetings ago about the three hard posts. Speaker 1 00:22:15 JFK does a dynamic like dispatching. They, they anticipate where calls are gonna come in. So we are allowing them to change those hard posts, which isn't a violation of the contract. It actually allows for this in the contract to move those hard posts around depending on call volume, time of day, et cetera. And then the goal of 10 minutes, you did bring up the, the, the average is about seven and a half minutes, I'm not sure for the last month, but it's about seven and a half minutes. That 90% goal of under 10 minutes, that's to the township's prerogative to enforce that. I understand why you, you bring up in a meeting but it's not a, it's not a violation of the contract. Speaker 2 00:22:58 I'm sorry, did you just say the township doesn't have the prerogative to enforce section 5.1 of the contract? Speaker 7 00:23:06 No, that's not at all what Speaker 1 00:23:08 He said. No, I said they, it's a township's prerogative to enforce that. Speaker 2 00:23:12 So there's, it's a township not to then Speaker 1 00:23:17 It, we as a EMS advisor counsel, we can make a recommendation, we can bring maybe attention to this if we think it's an issue the 87% to 90%, but it's, it's up to the township to, Speaker 2 00:23:30 So the township has the choice to not force the contract. Speaker 7 00:23:38 Township always has as the, as the the payer under the contract always has the ability to waive provisions or allow provisions to grow into it. Just like there are three places posted supposed to be posted but now we're allowing flexibility 'cause it makes more sense. So yes ev if the town is satisfied with 87% we can say we're good for now and continue to work with JFK to get to 90%. Speaker 1 00:24:10 And I'll bring up one thing too. Mr. Bober did say he's gonna look into possible statistical outliers for the missing 3% or so making the under 10 minutes. So I look forward in the January meeting if he's able to look into each individual instance, you know, if there's a 23 minute response time that's going to skew those numbers a little bit just as if there is a 15 second response time. So I think Mr. Bober did say he was gonna look into some of the outliers of why there's numbers were a little bit different. Speaker 5 00:24:41 Correct. And if I may just to kind of add to it, Evan, I completely understand your point. You know, we are absolutely shooting for 90%. That is the goal. That is always the goal. That has always been the goal. There have been more than a fair number of months where we have met it. But I do understand as far as your statement goes of the six months or so of the past couple that are the only ones that you have in front of you or that have been shared with you, I know that was a definitely a goal of this committee to make sure that, that there was more transparency surrounding that as well. But there, there is no shift in the premise of the idea that 90% is the goal. Certainly what we are striving for on a regular basis and any month we don't make it. Speaker 5 00:25:23 We do look to take a look at each of those and make sure we implement the appropriate process improvement regarding the posts. You know, one of the posts that was originally laid out as the idea of where we would be stationed in the original plan was the fire academy and obviously that that couldn't be occupied. So there was a little bit of a shift there, but we definitely do not post just wherever we want each time we've talked about moving where one of the three units would be posted, we've had to check back and made sure we check back with police and police dispatch to make sure that that was something that they were agreeable to as well. And then the only other thing I would say is we have never pulled two of the three units. We're certainly grateful that when a life-threatening emergency comes in and you know, it's all quiet and Piscataway, that Piscataway has chosen to be a gracious neighbor and allowed that third unit to go when perhaps another unit wouldn't be going. But to date we have, we have not down gone down to one unit in Piscataway. And that is certainly not the intent. I don't think that we would be able to make that 10 minutes for the geography that we're talking about in Piscataway with any kind of certainty if we were leaving it to a simple single unit. Speaker 2 00:26:37 Yeah. And you know, you guys, you guys have done a, a wonderful job. You know, this is a in no way, shape or form a slight towards JFK. We appreciate you being here. We appreciate what you and all your people do for us as residents. It is just, you know, we're, we're just here just trying to understand things a little bit better. I just wanted to be abundantly clear about that. No, I get it. I but thank you for saying that. I do get it. Absolutely. Just to piggyback on, on Ms. Green, what she had said earlier in regards to South Plainfield, we've asked a series of questions throughout the timeline of this advisory council and JFK has stated multiple times that they'd be more than willing to work with either of the organizations in town that are here in town and they've left that entirely up to the municipality. Speaker 2 00:27:25 And, and I believe they've done that because that's really just how the contract is written. It recognizes both organizations and it completely leaves it up to the township. So I, I think Ms. Green's, you know, it's the same question we share over here at River Road and you know, something Ozzie and I have talked about, fortunately he's not here today. We're just trying to figure out, you know, if we can have inclusion with J-F-K-J-F-K stated, the only reason that they can't move forward with, with either of us is because it really is as contractually written the direction of the town. So we're just trying to, I think, and Mikayla don't, lemme put any words in your mouth, understand why it is an out of town volunteer asset is favored seemingly by the township o over in town staffed asset. And, and, and to Ms. Pils statement that Stone hadn't been in service recently. It, it, it's, it's, it's this issue that I would think brought them to where they're at is they just weren't getting the volume. So, you know, we're just, we're just trying to figure out why the volume's being directed by the town one way versus the other when there is already a framework to, to support this to happen. Speaker 8 00:28:36 I like to add a supplement to that if I could. Speaker 1 00:28:39 Go ahead Dan. Speaker 8 00:28:42 It's, it's been stated in this meeting that, you know, the town understands that sometimes life-threatening emergencies happen elsewhere and that we're allowing JFK to send an ambulance out of town for that to benefit that individual. Why isn't the town looking to benefit its own citizens with other ambulance services that are already in town? Speaker 1 00:29:11 I just wanna touch on one thing. 'cause Evan's kind of hinting at this on one side of it and one side, and Ms. Green will attest to this, I believe that Nortel wasn't getting enough call volume to sustain, you know, the membership and training and keeping their volunteers interested in coming to the station on their weekends and answering calls. So maybe in the next three months we can look at specifically how many times, we'll say South Plainfield comes into our town for mutual aid. It, it seems like it's only a few, maybe not even per month, but per quarter where we're having a different ambulance come in, specifically like South Plainfield just trying to keep this moving forward. And this is, we have the data, everything's being shared with the EMS counsel, so we can look at this in a few months and Mr. Bober can come back also with the, the Times and we can all talk about this with all the facts and information. Speaker 2 00:30:17 I think that's a good idea and I I think it's important to, to remember, you know, this isn't, again, as Ms. Green stated, it's not North Stelton or River Road or, or one versus the other, but there is a fully functional EMS agency and it does happen to be River Road and it still is here in town and it's still available to be used as a supplement as allowed by the contract. You know, we wouldn't pick us over Stelton any day of the week, you know, that that's not how we operate over here. But, you know, there, there seems to be growth and it, it's been talked about many times that we could work hand in hand with, with JFK, they're open to it, the contracts here and it allows it and it's just, it really is truly baffling why it is that we are allowing other volunteers in and you have people showing up still even, and you're just not letting them in. I mean, it's getting to the point where residents call us directly and that's just, we remind them not to, it's totally inappropriate. The 9 1 1 system exists for a reason and it assures a specific level of care through EMD and, and we just, we really are here for the residents. So I I I, the last piece I'm gonna offer it is just very baffling on our end as well. Speaker 1 00:31:32 Okay. Thank you for your comments. I, I have one more housekeeping thing that I need to bring up and then we're gonna get into new business once more. I'm just going to ask for a motion to approve the meeting minutes of July. I realize I haven't done that in the beginning of the meeting. They were dispensed to the s Advisory Council via email if there's no objections to except meeting minutes. Go ahead Evan. Speaker 2 00:31:58 I'll offer for you. Speaker 1 00:31:59 I appreciate that, Evan, any discussion on the meeting minutes? Okay, without objection, the meeting minutes will be answered into the record and sent to the town council. Any other new business? Don't see any hands. Speaker 2 00:32:21 Oh, I, I wasn't gonna say anything. I didn't even think about it. You introduced yourself as interim is, is there any update on you not being interim? We'd like to welcome you aboard, you know, officially Speaker 1 00:32:38 I don't have any, have any updates for you, Evan? Speaker 2 00:32:40 Okay. Thank you Jim. Speaker 1 00:32:41 Yes, sir. Any other new business? Okay. Announcements. I'm gonna start with the announcements I have. Next EMS advisory meeting Date is January 29th, 6:00 PM It's gonna be on Zoom. I will send out calendar invites for the whole year. And then there's actually a typo on the agenda. It is, please have personnel apparatus reports to me before the April meeting, not the January. So you guys can wait until next year, the end of the year to do your apparatus personnel reports. Any other announcements? Speaker 1 00:33:19 Okay, this is now the time for the public comment. If any member of the public wishes to speak, please raise your hand. This can be done by either on the Zoom app, by pressing star nine on your phone. I will unmute members of the public individually if they have their hand raised. When it is your turn to speak, you'll get a prompt or request to unmute. Please click on the prompt or press star six on your phone to unmute yourself at that time. Please state your name and address and know that you'll have three minutes in which to make your comments. EMS advisory committee or administration will respond if necessary. After you have completed any comments or questions, it is now open to the public. Please raise your hand. Okay. I don't think there's many members of the public even in this meeting right now. I don't see any hands raised. Okay. That closes the public comments portion. Is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? Speaker 0 00:34:15 I Speaker 1 00:34:21 Motion to adjourn. Speaker 0 00:34:23 Motion to adjourn. Speaker 2 00:34:25 I'll give a second. Speaker 1 00:34:27 Shikowsky. Any objections? All right, so moved. It's 1834 hours. We'll see everyone on January 29th. Thank you guys. Speaker 0 00:34:35 Thank.Minutes for Piscataway Ems meeting on October 23 2023