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Oct 8 2020 · Zoning
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Meeting Sections
  • 00:00:30 — Meeting Opening, Roll Call, and Vice Chairperson Appointment
  • 00:02:59 — 20-ZB-50V - Applicant at 355 Williams Street (Roof and Fence Variance) 20-ZB-50
  • 00:17:51 — 20-ZB-53V - James and Shannon Hamilton (Pool Installation - Part 1) 20-ZB-53
  • 00:26:51 — 20-ZB-55V - Patel (Fence Height Variance) 20-ZB-55
  • 00:32:03 — 20-ZB-53V - James and Shannon Hamilton (Pool Installation - Resumed) 20-ZB-53
  • 00:33:45 — 20-ZB-58V - Sean Phillips (Backyard Fence with Easement Encroachment) 20-ZB-58
  • 00:41:25 — 20-ZB-57V - Janice and Mark (Sunroom Addition) 20-ZB-57
  • 00:43:39 — 20-ZB-59V - Maria Hooley (Patio Roof) 20-ZB-59
  • 00:45:26 — 20-ZB-61V - Erin and Anna Smith (Existing Family Room Retention) 20-ZB-61
  • 00:49:15 — 20-ZB-62V - John (Shed Installation) 20-ZB-62
  • 00:52:25 — 20-ZB-47V - Raheem Family (Home Addition with Bedroom Expansion) 20-ZB-47
  • 01:05:12 — Adoption of Resolutions from September 24, 2021 Meeting
  • 01:06:57 — Meeting Adjournment
Meeting Opening, Roll Call, and Vice Chairperson Appointment AI  00:00:30 – 00:02:50
Meeting called to order with adequate notice verification. Board roll call: Mr. Taylor, Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel, and Chairman Cahill. Pledge of Allegiance recited. Warren Zimmerman appointed as Vice Chairperson of the board.
Speaker 1It is seven 30 Chairman
Speaker 2Zoning board of adjustment meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice published on the bulletin board at the municipal building notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the Korean news and the Star-Ledger. Well, the clerk, please call
Speaker 1Mr. Taylor right here. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel and Mr. Cahill Chairman Cato.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well it all, please stand for you. Similar to the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag. One name. I didn't hear my name.
Speaker 1Oh, we'd have we. Haven't called you yet. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, we just did the board members and as your case comes up, then that's when you'll speak. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you,
Speaker 2Mr. Chameleon, are there any changes to the agenda? I'm not aware of any changes to the agenda at this time. Okay. At this point, I believe we need to appoint a via his chairperson. That's correct. Yes, that is correct. Okay. I personally know this gentlemen, 20 years as a neighbor. I know how dedicated he gains to the township and the township's best interest. He's been a leader in a chairman on many other boards in Jersey, including the state theater and several aggressors. And I would like to nominate Warren Zimmerman with a vice chair person position. And I guess that I would like to second that
Speaker 1Yep. Mr. Tillery. Yes. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel and Chairman Cahill. Yes.
Speaker 2Congratulations. Congratulations. I really appreciate that. Thank you. Okay, so we'll go to number, which
20-ZB-50V - Applicant at 355 Williams Street (Roof and Fence Variance) 20-ZB-50 AI  00:02:59 – 00:17:35
Applicants requested variance to add roof over porch entrance and install privacy fence at corner property with two front entrances. Key issues: shed on property line requires 3-foot setback (moved or screened per Hinterstein report); fence must be set 5 feet from Eisenman Street for driveway visibility. Public hearing held with no opposition. Vote: Approved 5-0 with amendments per Hinterstein requirements.
Speaker 3Is 20 ZB, 50 to me, Mary, your sad coma. I really did that and I budgeted.
Speaker 4Yes.
Speaker 3Okay. Are you both going to be testifying tonight? Yes. Okay. I need to swear each of you in, could you retrace your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God? Yes. Hey one at a time. Give me your name and address please.
Speaker 4Yes, I, I, I'm leaving it at 3 55 Williams street, Piscataway in Jersey
Speaker 3When I'm shooting this kind of New Jersey. Okay. You can put your hands down and one of you please explain to the board what you would like to do here.
Speaker 4Yes. So we proposed the volumes. We'd like to have a roof on our porch entrance. And so our, so basically we'd have two, two front yards. So, and we, we haven't heard time and especially when the raining or for the entrance always gets wet and the oldest calming snow snowing will be snowing. So basically we'd all have a roof all over that, the entrance from the second entrance. And the second we proposed to have a fence for the privacy. We had a hard time to, you know, to have some kind of area, to have a barbecue and have a fence over. And it's it's wide open. So as I told you, as I mentioned before, we have two front entrances, so both sides are open, so there's no privacy and to have a family and have the kids will be running around. So it's it's how is it's making us hard time to, to raise a family. So it's, that's that's this is our proposed Brian's.
Speaker 3Hmm. Have you had any opportunity to review the townships October 2nd, 2020 memorandum for Mr. Hinterstein now I know he's not. Do you have a copy of that document?
Speaker 4No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3It's Mr. Mr. Hinterstein October 2nd, 2020 report, Mr. Hinterstein is from the Piscataway Township <inaudible> instead
Speaker 5To address those items. Okay.
Speaker 4Yes. Yes. We do have paper in this, the area impact inside impact. Yes, yes. Do you want me to read
Speaker 6It? Can you comply with what Mr Hinterstein is requesting? So, yeah, I guess just the first thing, I guess is he mentioned that we need the kind of screening our, our shed. So we were kind of curious about that and kind of why that was brought up.
Speaker 5The reason that is brought up is because you're proposing a shed on the property line with three is required, so you can relocate the shed to and conforming location. And then I will have a problem with not having a solid fence to screen the shed, but because you're asking to put it right on somebody spot where the requirement is three feet, hence the request for the screening of it by either fence or landscaping or perhaps to be located to a conforming location.
Speaker 6Yeah. I mean, so I'm just trying to get into that. I kind of have a critical eye for before building, cause I want to, we're not trying to move the shutter or anything, but if we're building a fence, they kind of want us to move it. So just guys, this look more like covered by the offense, basically just a little
Speaker 5Around the shed.
Speaker 4We're not proposing anything related to the shed or in that area.
Speaker 5So you were just looking at, put the fence up along going street or a Warren eyes streets.
Speaker 4We only propose two items and I don't know why it was brought up in the,
Speaker 5Because it's, it's not an, a conforming location. So when you come in for an application, if you think of any barriers that they see on the property. So the, the shed was put out most likely without a zoning permit in a non-conforming location. So you could move the shed to a conformance location, and that would eliminate the need for the variance for that item. Or you could place a solid fence to help buffer the neighboring property, having to look at the shed or add landscaping to do that. But with the shed being right on the property line, it's almost impossible to landscape plans. So really the only option would be to keep the shed in that location would be to put up a solid fence to help offer it or relocate the shed so that it conforms to the three foot side yard setback during.
Speaker 6Okay. Because, because as you're saying, it's kind of, because it's too close there, you have a property. So it's kind of
Speaker 5Like free three seats where it's required. Okay.
Speaker 6Property line. All right. So yeah. Are things kind of that we're proposing is on the other side or the shed is currently located?
Speaker 5Is there any reason why you couldn't relocate the shed?
Speaker 6There's no, I guess there's no reason. That's just, it's kind of tucked away back there. Do you know if it's,
Speaker 2Do you know, do you know if the shed has a concrete slab?
Speaker 6I don't pick it does. Okay.
Speaker 2It's a lot easier to move without.
Speaker 6Yeah. I mean, that's no problem for us. It's kind of a, you know, whichever it's been there for, I can't imagine how many years, so, but now we have, we have not moved up.
Speaker 2Okay. So you're okay with, you're not gonna move where you're gonna put something before for you,
Speaker 6You, by going in front of her, just as I can just cover it up.
Speaker 2Okay. And then number two, we'll listen on the side of impact. Have you looked at
Speaker 6That? Yeah, we have. So I guess she just, the problem there is they think it's too close to our driveway. It's kinda impacting our line of view. So, you know, we can move it back. When you kind of where it's closer to the driveway on a property line, we kind of move it back.
Speaker 5The issue is along Iseman street, you were right on the property line. So I believe what the request is that you just moved that, that red line that you showed on the map, five feet off of the property line that runs parallel with Eisenman. So that not only your driveway, when you're backing out of your driveway, but your neighbor's driveway, when they're backing out of their driveway, they have more visibility when they're backing out. So we typically, again, you, you have a very, now a lot too, you have somewhat of a hardship and it's a corner property, but we never get variances. It left people, but typically the defense right on the property. So we need a little bit of a buffer there for visibility purposes or driveways and sort of just a site corridor, an Iceland.
Speaker 6Okay. So if we, okay, so kind of, so you're saying the entire, the entire street, and even if we're not, you know, kind of to push it in certain areas, now, say it again. You want the entire thing. I always thought feedback. Yeah. You're required.
Speaker 5Yeah. That fence is supposed to meet your front yard setback line. Again, you got to work with this a little bit here then required would be probably 30 feet in the zone. I believe. Yeah. Something of that neighborhood. And we're willing to give you five feet. I think that's a pretty good compromise.
Speaker 6Okay. So yeah. So you're saying it's not anything five thinking back from that area, we'd be okay with this. As long as obviously I'm pushing that boundary as long as well, as long as not so as long as we're five feet back,
Speaker 5Further back on the property, but
Speaker 6Okay. Who would
Speaker 4There to show the idea of proposes? Could you take a look? We made a presentation.
Speaker 6Well, can we share our screen and into the possibility right now?
Speaker 5I don't see. Why not, Jim, do you have an issue with that? They want to,
Speaker 3You can share a screen. We're just going to need whatever document you are sharing a screen of. We're going to need a copy of the and paper. Okay.
Speaker 6It's it's, it's just a lot. We're just now I am kind of showing more detail, more detail.
Speaker 3Is this something that you submitted with your application?
Speaker 6Well, we said, we said, no, we submitted the it's. It's just a lot with the kind of lines for where we want to put the fence. And we did submit that with the original application, but we were also kind of assuming that, you know, they're not gonna push back. So we kind of also just are close to being on other, you know, other options to push her back in case,
Speaker 3You know, this is a new drawing that you have not submitted before.
Speaker 6No. So
Speaker 4Yes. I would love to get an understanding from the,
Speaker 3Yeah. Okay. So we're going to mark this document as <inaudible> with today's date. And this is, I guess, entitled, perhaps a revised drawing and you are going to have to provide a hard copy of that to Laura buckwheat for the zoning board file. And with that, Laura, do you have the ability to allow them to share the screen?
Speaker 1I thought, I think they could just do it and I'll have to do anything. If they just go to the bottom and hit share screen, they should be able to do it on their
Speaker 6Computer.
Speaker 4Yeah. Thank you.
Speaker 6Okay. So you
Speaker 3Explained to the board, what is shown on this drawing?
Speaker 6Yeah, so on the original, the red line here is where we kind of working with the, both the fence. And we had read the, the, the site impact knowing with the five foot bed. So we kind of were hoping that maybe that the purple line would be a better fit, just because it gives us more visibility on the driveway. So that that part would be five foot back. But the remaining purple part would, would not be five feet,
Speaker 5Unfortunately, that, yeah, that purple line wouldn't their entire fence has to be by the back of the pocket to open up that side corridor for, you know, 10, 15 feet is a nice gesture, but it's just not enough. And really doesn't alleviate the visibility, concerns and issues that I would have for the neighboring driveways. Okay.
Speaker 4Reason why we initially submitted this way, he close, we have a patio and, and then that's the reason why we send me that then also you can tell us in the process place, how that fence usually that's the, in the past they, Ms. Ms. Had a sense. That's why we, we propose that.
Speaker 5Yep. I understand that. Just again, it just doesn't work. There are safety issues and it's just too close to the eyes. Main street that corridor just gets too pinched off. You know, you may want to consider relocating the patio to the other side of Milwaukee, to the rear of the home. I'll leave that up to you, but it definitely is going to have to be
Speaker 6Okay. So can we do something like you kind of unwind with that side of our house? No performance, no. Okay.
Speaker 2And Okay. With the site impact we can move on.
Speaker 6Yeah. Yeah. I just, okay.
Speaker 2It's kind of clear. It's got to be five feet off where it's currently is. It seems like, it sounds like the previous owner just basically put up slapping stuff without permits. I mean, the sheds on the property line, fence on the property line, you know, unfortunately when you come before us, we have to educate the public and we have to administer the policy of a township. So It happens all the time. We see dozens of these every year. And unfortunately it is what it is. Does anyone else on the board have any questions for this?
Speaker 6Can we just say one more thing
Speaker 2And then iPod?
Speaker 6I'm sorry. So are we okay for the other project? Where for you to recover our slide deck?
Speaker 5No issues with that.
Speaker 2Okay. Nothing mentioned. Okay. Hearing nothing from the board, I'm going to open this up to the public. Ms. Buckley, do you see anybody raising their hand?
Speaker 1Chairman?
Speaker 2Okay. Public portions closed. I would make a motion to approve this application based on the testimony that the applicant gave and Henry Hinterstein recommendations. I
Speaker 1Secondly, Mr. Taylor,
Speaker 2Mr.
Speaker 1Taylor,
Speaker 2Would you call it
Speaker 1Mr. <inaudible>? Yes. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel and Chairman Cahill.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Occasion has been approved as amended by the requirements of Mr. Hinterstein report. We will memorialize this in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for the zoom meeting for that. We will mail a copy to you, but you'll need that document to get your building permits.
20-ZB-53V - James and Shannon Hamilton (Pool Installation - Part 1) 20-ZB-53 AI  00:17:51 – 00:26:33
Applicants requested variance for above-ground pool 5 feet from property line (10 feet required). Applicants cited limited backyard space due to existing patio, deck removal, and large trees. Hinterstein noted lack of demonstrated hardship. Board suggested moving pool or patio. Applicants paused application to check property dimensions and measurements.
Speaker 2You appreciate it, guys. Come on guys. Let's move on to item. Stabbing. 20 dash ZB dash 53. Meet James Hamilton.
Speaker 3Mr. Hamilton present.
Speaker 7I saw him on.
Speaker 3Yeah. Hello. How you doing Mr. Hamilton? How are you doing? I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Does she want to testify also with each of you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. So help you, God, you put your hands down one at a time. Give me your name and address please. <inaudible>
Speaker 7Shannon Hamilton, four 40 Ellen street, Skylar.
Speaker 3Thank you. Could one of you explain to the board what you'd like to do here?
Speaker 7Yes. We find her very, we wanted to get a pool and we wanted to put it kind of in the side backyard of our house and we needed a variance because it wasn't, it was not going to be 10 feet off of the side property.
Speaker 3Have you had an opportunity to look at Mr. Hinterstein October 5th, 2020 report? Yes. Can you address that please?
Speaker 7Yes. So the survey from that was used that we provided, you know, with the plans and things like that. It currently has it there's a deck in the back there. That deck, when we bought the house is not structurally sound. So it's actually been removed since and a patio and the patio goes out further than the deck. So like, to be able to fit like that back area. I don't know if you have the survey in front of you or not, but that back area there's only 22 feet and 10 inches worth to play with. So that's why we were not putting it there. And in the you're looking at the house, the back right of the house has kind of one of those larger professionally put in playgrounds, why they were not looking to put it there. And that also does not appear on their survey. And additionally, there's one of the trees kind of in the back. Well, I hang over block a lot of backyard,
Speaker 2Henry.
Speaker 5Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah. You know, this is similar to the last case. I mean, I could only work off of what, what they provide me. They provide me a survey, you know, I, I see yard where there's ample space to put the pool that they want another locations that conform completely with the warden. It, for me, this is something that seems like it's just sandwiched then here to maximize the backyard, which is nice. But again, I don't, I don't see the hardship other than they want more, more maybe green space or open space in the backyard. So they're trying to put it as close to that, to the side as possible. And I could appreciate wanting as much spaces as possible. The problem here is that you're asking for a pool, be five feet from a property line. If a kid were to jump this fence, I mean, that's just too close to a property on there's safety issues involved with that.
Speaker 5The ordinance is 10 feet for a reason. They came to me and said, you know, we're looking for a one or two for one and a half foot, two foot bearings to, to have the four 18 away from a property line. I could say, you know, that may be acceptable, but five feet is just too severe. I think of an ass. The safety considerations that you have a top of that you typically are going to have some type of walkway space around the pool. I don't know if this is in ground or above ground. It really didn't say on this particular drawing, it would be an above ground off the property lines, five feet, five feet. Again, it's a little too severe. I think if you pushed it so that it's at least eight feet from the property line at sometime
Speaker 7It's not been, would be appropriate, but that be appropriate there. Cause we also have a six foot vinyl fence and
Speaker 5We're going to get
Speaker 7To the public in a minute. And obviously any neighbors have any issues they can speak to.
Speaker 5The audience is there for, for safety reasons again, and, and not to be so close to the neighboring property, you know, a property again, this particular neighbor may not have an issue with it. Maybe you're on great terms with them. They may sell their house and in two years, and then the next neighbor has to move in and doesn't have that say. So again, you need to show a hardship. I don't think you've shown a hardship of wanting to pull in this particular location. Please let me finish what I'm saying. The, the place that, although is this big professional place that that was put in that could be relocated if necessary. So we really want the pool on that side of the property. You may want to look at being the place that relocating the patio it's pavers. It's not something that's permanent. It could be, that could be modified. So again, I don't see the hardship of wanting it in that specific location.
Speaker 7The hardship is financial that the patio costs almost $25,000 to put in. I can't just pull over 25. That's a financial hardship that flavor, alcohol
Speaker 3Finances, not a hardship under the laws of the state of New Jersey. You have to prove a hardship based upon the configuration of your lot.
Speaker 8There's also, I'm just saying, but there's also six big old trees that we have in the backyard and put a cool over 600 trees is not good. All right, I'm not going to spend all the money by a pool to have trees and leaves go into the filter and be damaged. And it would be clunky. The trees, the trees are not located. I'm serving and you guys can't see it. So I'm going to be close to that for you.
Speaker 8Is the best option for our backyard.
Speaker 2We're asking you to move in three feet, 36 inches. Now. Yes, you're at five feet. We want you to move it to eight
Speaker 7<inaudible> crack six feet. So you said seven or eight feet. So you're saying we can have another foot and we can have a very, I never said seven feet. You said seven or eight feet when you originally started speaking, sir. Ma'am
Speaker 3Hey, ma'am Mr. Hinterstein. Doesn't make doesn't vote on the application, the board votes on the application. Okay.
Speaker 7So,
Speaker 3But Mr. Chairman of the board is asking you to move it to eight feet
Speaker 2And 10 feet is required.
Speaker 7I can
Speaker 2Virtually guarantee you if we you're moving to eight, I can pretty much assure you and approval of tonight's meeting. If you don't move it to eight, I can probably go the other way. So I apologize. I mean, I would
Speaker 8Have to look,
Speaker 7Can we like take a minute to go out and our bathroom
Speaker 8Because we got his names there's AC over there on that side too. So, I mean, there are other other factors that come into play and we,
Speaker 7No, I just say you don't have to, don't have to move forward with this application tonight. By all means, if I'm sitting, I have a couple of minutes just to go check. I can do that. I just want to literally run out to my backyard and measure it that
Speaker 2You know what we can, we can take care of other business, but if we're in the middle of an application, by the time you come back, you're just going to have to wait for the next application after that, is that okay? Go out, look at your property. We're going to take the next application that's on here. Let me get back on computer. If we're in the middle of that application, you're going to have to wait until that ends and then we'll take The Kinneally.
Speaker 3Yes. That's that's acceptable.
Speaker 2Okay. We'll come back a little bit. We'll see a little bit. Yep.
Speaker 3Can you call the next application?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Okay. Hello, Jeremy Cahill. Can you call the next apple? That's okay.
20-ZB-55V - Patel (Fence Height Variance) 20-ZB-55 AI  00:26:51 – 00:31:56
Applicant requested variance for fence height (7 feet proposed, 6 feet standard). Hinterstein noted pre-existing conditions. Applicant agreed to reduce to 6 feet. Neighbor Charles Wang testified that fence is necessary to protect property from deer following green acres loss and to prevent property value decline. Vote: Approved 5-0 with 3-month installation grace period.
Speaker 2It's number eight, 20 dead CB 55 B ranch. Hot a Patel. Yes. Hi, Mr. Mitchell, how are you?
Speaker 3Okay, Mr. Patel, I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. So help you God, even address, please.
Speaker 9My name is <inaudible> discovery.
Speaker 3Explain to the board what you'd like to do here.
Speaker 9I like to put a sheet near my other location. It's impossible to put anything there. Walk, remarried such a way with stone and everything. I cannot take snowblower lawnmower. So I print location and this I need radiance.
Speaker 2Mr. <inaudible>. You seen I'm sorry, Mr. Kinneally. Please proceed.
Speaker 3Mr. Patel, have you seen Mr. Hinterstein report? Can you address the items raised in his report, please?
Speaker 9I, I can do what happened.
Speaker 3Put off the shit off the fence.
Speaker 9What happened? They put, I explained when I move in 2003, people crossing from smoke tree to direct directly. That is parents. I called somebody and say, can you put friends so that <inaudible>. So they put seven feet. That fence that's going to only visa
Speaker 3So you can reduce it to six feet. Okay. If he can reduce it to six feet, Mr. Chairman, all the other variances are pre-existing and not really effected by this development.
Speaker 2Okay. Are there any other people on the board that would question this application? Hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public. Anyone in the public have a problem with this application or any comments Ms. Buckley?
Speaker 1Well, let me double check.
Speaker 2Okay. Well the portion is closed. I, excuse me. This is Charles Wang. I'm number seven. Right next door. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3Yes, we can hear you Mr. Wayne.
Speaker 2Oh, okay. I just like to provide,
Speaker 3Oh, hold on, dude. Do you want to comment on the Patel application? Yes. Okay. I need to swear you in. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give you the truth so help you God.
Speaker 2Yes, I do.
Speaker 3And your name and address again?
Speaker 2Charles Wang. Seven smoke tray, close Piscataway, New Jersey. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I just want to provide you for this body height of the fence. The reason we, we originally the fence was four feet and that partnership had apple, a, a whole bunch of a housing project and reduced the green acres behind us. And that's when the there's no pies to go. And they ravage the backyard of all the neighbors. And it's going to not only lower the property value, but has a to the appraisal and in turn the township tax revenue where reveals. So the fence serves a purpose. It protects the overkill list and also safe, or the township update value from point out. So a seven, seven feet is more deterrence for the beers and six feet. The theist can easily jump through. Well, thank you for your, for your testimony, Mr. Wang, we appreciate it.
Speaker 2Going to members of the public. Nothing out there, Laura. No, sir. Okay. Motion's been made by Mr. Zimmerman to improve on a sec Kalpesh seconds. Well, to call Mr. Taylor. Yes. Mr. Weissmann. Yes. Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Chairman. Yes. Approved Mr. Patella, your application has been approved. We'll memorialize it in a written document or our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will mail it to you, but you will need that to get your permit. Before I can ask you how long deck fence, one foot short Henry w we'll give you a reasonable amount of time. It's moving. If it's an issue it's three months satisfactory.
20-ZB-53V - James and Shannon Hamilton (Pool Installation - Resumed) 20-ZB-53 AI  00:32:03 – 00:33:34
Hamilton application resumed. Applicants indicated they could accept 8-foot setback compromise from property line. Chairman confirmed approval with this modification. Vote: Approved 5-0 as amended.
Speaker 2Well, you can probably get it done before the winter. I've tried. I mean, I have no problem. First. I was going to say April or may. That's fine. That's fine. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Ms. Patel, I'd like to go back to application step 20 dash three dash 53 V James Hamilton. You guys back? Yes. What'd you what'd you find out we can make that work. Yep. Perfect. Okay. Any, anybody on the board have any questions for this application? That was very nice. You had a question now, 180 feet, correct? <inaudible> recommended. Can you hear me? No more questions from the board. I'd like to open it to the public. Anyone in the public have any questions or comments about this application? No, sir. Okay. Pelvic portion is closed. I would like to make a motion to approve this. Well, I got here. First one. You can be the second, the second. Okay. So a motion has been made by myself. Seconded by Mr. Zimmerman. Can I get well, we'll call Mr. Taylor. Yes. Mr. Weissman? Yes. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. And Chairman. Yes.
Speaker 3Your application has been approved as amended. We'll more realize that a written document at the next meeting, you will need to be present for that to mail a copy to you, but you'll need a copy to get your building permits.
20-ZB-58V - Sean Phillips (Backyard Fence with Easement Encroachment) 20-ZB-58 AI  00:33:45 – 00:41:02
Applicants requested variance to enclose backyard patio and yard with 6-foot PVC fence, with portion encroaching into utility easement. Applicants acknowledged township's right to access easement and agreed to remove/replace fence if needed. Neighbor Wilhelmina Bryant raised concern about confusion for future owners; satisfied with condition requirement. Neighbor Jeff Lane clarified scope of fence. Public hearing held. Vote: Approved 5-0 with condition requiring owner responsibility for fence removal/replacement if township accesses easement.
Speaker 2Yeah. Thank you. Good luck guys. Next application's number nine 20 dash DB dash 58 V. Try Sean Phillips.
Speaker 3Mr. Phillips available.
Speaker 2You have some available. How are you doing sir?
Speaker 3Good evening. Oh, you brought the baby for some sympathy.
Speaker 3Swear. Whoever is going to testify in. So could you raise your right hand if you're gonna testify?
Speaker 2He has me and my wife here.
Speaker 3You swear the testimony you're about to give should be the truth. So help you God. Could I have your name and address?
Speaker 2Phillips seven. Brian court, Piscataway bam. Same address seven Brian court.
Speaker 3And good. One of you explained to the board, what you'd like to do here.
Speaker 2I'm trying to put up a fence around our, around our power, around our home, in the backyard. It goes a little bit into the easement. Cause we have, we bought the house. We just recently bought the house in February. There's a, here's a patio in the back right off of the sliding door. And we like to be able to enclose the patio and I'm enclosed the fence around the yard. Cause we get a lot of deer and all different types of animals. They end up in their yard. And like I said, we got a newborn here and then we also have 11 and 12 year olds. So trying to make it safe for the kids.
Speaker 3And we understand that if the township needs access to that easement, you would be responsible for taking the fence out and putting it back in. You asked,
Speaker 2Well, you understand that
Speaker 3Mr. Chairman, I think those are all the issues on this application.
Speaker 2It looks pretty cut and dry to me as well as everybody else on the board. Have any questions? Hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public. Anybody in the public portion have any questions about this application?
Speaker 10Yes. Oh, well Wilhelmina Bryant and my, my concern is
Speaker 3Yes. Ma'am. I need to raise your right hand. Yes, very good. Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God. Yes, I do your name and address please.
Speaker 10Bryant 58 Poplar road Piscataway.
Speaker 3Thank you.
Speaker 2Continue. Ma'am
Speaker 10My, my only concern I think with, with the, with the variance is future owners. Should I sell my property or he should sell his property? That it might cause a confusion. So that is my only concern.
Speaker 3Well, there will be no confusion because there will be a condition of approval that requires the owner to be responsible for removal and replacement of that fence. If the township ever needs to access that easement for any purpose.
Speaker 10Okay.
Speaker 2Condition of the approval. Ma'am
Speaker 10Okay. That, that was my concern.
Speaker 2No, we're glad you turned out and contributed.
Speaker 10Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 2Thank you. Ma'am you have a great
Speaker 10Night.
Speaker 2And what else? Public portion.
Speaker 1Yes you have. It says Jeff's galaxy.
Speaker 2Okay. There they
Speaker 1Go. Chairman
Speaker 2Continued. Is it Jeff?
Speaker 1There un-muted
Speaker 2Anyone else in the public portion hearing on a closed the public portion.
Speaker 11Can you hear me?
Speaker 2Yes, sir. Oh, okay.
Speaker 3Okay. Thanks, sir. I need to swear you in, could you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony about the gift should be the truth, so help you God. Yes, sir. May I have your full name and address please?
Speaker 11There's Jeff Lane, 1259 Brookside road.
Speaker 3Thank you. And do you have a comment on the Phillip's application?
Speaker 11Yeah. I just had a question on, is it, is this an addition to the fence that's already installed
Speaker 3Mr. Phillips? Is this a fence that's already installed or do you propose a fence?
Speaker 2Yeah, we had already put in for a permit for a fence originally and we got the fence. You wanted to add them into us. So yes, this distance and it's going to continue around the back portion of the property is,
Speaker 10Excuse me. This is Wilhelmina Brian again. Ms. You can't
Speaker 3Jump in like that. Wait, wait, wait. And we got to finish with Mr. Lane. Mr. Lane. Does that your,
Speaker 2So this is boxing in the whole back of the property then that's correct? Yep. Okay. Okay. Well,
Speaker 5It's got, it's got to match the plan that you provided. So you show them what Stan six for PVC fence. It goes to the easement line on a Western side of the property, long follow the easement line, and then sort of just encloses the back patio area. We approach running into the <inaudible>, but you know, you have to maintain, you have to follow this plan. You can't just, you know, you sort of like overlapping the old fence that existed. That's right. And it appears though that you're taking that fence out and
Speaker 2We already did say, This is our second application.
Speaker 5Okay. But it's going to match this plank, correct? Yes. Okay. Correct. So yeah, it doesn't really close the hole and it causes their backyard to a degree, but it doesn't enclose the whole property just to make that clear. There's actually a decent amount of property outside of the fence. That's mostly easement area that they are proposing to leave on fence.
Speaker 2Okay. Does that answer your questions? Yeah. Yes it does, sir. Thank you. Yep. Have a great night. Thank you for tuning in. We'll let you have a follow up question. It gave clarity. That was what I needed to hear. Okay. Again, thank you for your or your participation. I'm going to close the public portion. Now members of the board have any questions? Lauren, did you just make a motion to approve? Okay. So I got a motion to approve by Warren and Kalpesh the second here. Okay.
Speaker 1Mr. Tillary. Yeah. Mr. Weissmann. Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel, if there are any Chairman Cahill,
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Your resolution, your, your application's been approved. We will memorialize in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will send a copy to you and we'll need that for your records and to get your permits.
Speaker 2Thank you very well. Cool. I'm blessed. God bless you. Moving on to application. Number 10. Number 10, sorry. 20 ZB dash 57 V. Janice and mark. You guys there is the applicant present.
20-ZB-57V - Janice and Mark (Sunroom Addition) 20-ZB-57 AI  00:41:25 – 00:43:12
Applicants requested variances for sunroom construction: rear setback 22.41 feet (25 required), building coverage 20.42% (20% maximum). Hinterstein report noted variances are de minimis with no planning considerations. No public comment. Vote: Approved 5-0 without concerns.
Speaker 3Okay. Are you both going to be testifying tonight? Yes. Could you raise your right hand? You swear the testimony you're about to give should be truth so help you God. No One in the time. Give us your name and address please.
Speaker 12Dan is the tallest for three Ellis park by him to start on New Jersey,
Speaker 2Mark 4 33 hours Parkway, Piscataway, New Jersey.
Speaker 3Good. One of you explained to the board what you'd like to do here.
Speaker 12Yes. We are requesting a variance to construct a sunroom in the back of the house. The first setback is 25 feet. We're proposing 22.41 and the max building coverage is 20% and we're proposing 20 to 40 42.
Speaker 3Mr. Chairman, I want to point out that Mr. Hinterstein, his report indicates that there are really no planning considerations and that the variances requested by the applicant is de diminimous
Speaker 2Good. If in the interest of expediting this application, anyone on the board have any questions, hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public. Anybody in the public have any questions about this application?
Speaker 1I do not see anybody Chairman.
Speaker 2Okay. Seeing none. Public portion is closed. I'll make a motion to approve. You can make a motion to approve this application. I believe you were a BA first
Speaker 1Who made the boat.
Speaker 2Okay. Why is there? Is this the Germans Raider Application? And I second it,
Speaker 1Yeah. Okay. Mr. Taylor wrote
Speaker 2The recall
Speaker 1Mr. Tucker. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel, you're off an Chairman. Chaill
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 3Your application has been approved. We'll memorialize this in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will mail a copy to you. You'll need that document to get your,
Speaker 2Thank you. Good luck. Good luck guys. Let's move on to item 11, 20 days, DB 59 B Maria. Hooley yup. Yes. I'm here.
20-ZB-59V - Maria Hooley (Patio Roof) 20-ZB-59 AI  00:43:39 – 00:45:04
Applicant requested variance to add roof over existing patio. Hinterstein report noted this is a de minimis variance with no planning considerations. No public opposition or board concerns. Vote: Approved 5-0.
Speaker 3Yes. Could you, are you both going to be testifying or joining tonight?
Speaker 2You're not going to book.
Speaker 3Okay, cool. Could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God, one at a time. Could I have your name and address please?
Speaker 2Hattaway. Chris. Your mom was working Johnson. I mean,
Speaker 3But one of you explained to the board what you'd like to do here,
Speaker 2A roof over the patio. I'm drawing a blank and simple.
Speaker 3Yeah. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Hinterstein. His report indicates that there are no planning considerations and that the variance is diminimous. Okay.
Speaker 2Okay. Well, any interest of expediting the application, I'm going to ask if anybody has any questions from the board hearing none. I'm going to open it to the public. Anyone, the public portion have any questions or comments about this application is Barkley. There is no one Chairman. Okay. Hearing none hearing none. I'm going to close the public portion. Make a motion to approve this application. This is the jacket. Okay. A motion's been made by Mr. Zimmerman to approve the application. Second by myself. Ms. Butler, please read the whole Mr. Taylor.
Speaker 1Yes. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel and
Speaker 2Shane Keiko. Yes.
Speaker 3Your application has been approved. We will memorialize it at our next meeting in a written document. You'll need that to get your permits. Good luck.
Speaker 2Okay. Moving on to item number 12, 20 DB days 61 days, Erin and Anna Smith.
20-ZB-61V - Erin and Anna Smith (Existing Family Room Retention) 20-ZB-61 AI  00:45:26 – 00:48:43
Applicants requested variance to retain existing family room (former garage converted by prior owner). Hinterstein noted concerns about driveway parking capacity and shed screening. Applicants confirmed two cars fit in driveway and agreed to either relocate shed to 3-foot setback or install solid fence screening. No public comment. Vote: Approved 5-0.
Speaker 3Is the applicant present or is it yes. Okay. Are you both going to testify this evening? Yes. Could you each raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God? Yes. One at a time. Could I have your name and address please?
Speaker 13And it's 1785. Our state's getaway. Aaron stood 1785 olive street, Piscataway.
Speaker 3Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you'd like to do here?
Speaker 13We have an existing family room that I guess at one point it was a garage and was converted by this two owners ago. You would like to keep it as in a family room.
Speaker 3Have you had the opportunity to look at Mr. Hinterstein report? Yes. Okay. Can you address those items
Speaker 13Regards to, I guess the driveway
Speaker 5Parked cars?
Speaker 3Yeah. Can you, can you fit two parked cars in your driveway? Oh
Speaker 13Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3And then paragraph two talks about the existing shed appears to need screening.
Speaker 13We are actually planning on putting up a fence, but in the meantime we'll move it. It was, it was existing when we moved in, but we'll, we're understanding it's about what two and a half feet, about two feet off the property. We want to understand that to be three feet.
Speaker 3Mr. Hinterstein. Does that address your report?
Speaker 5Yes, it does. I mean, if it's again, two and a half feet, two feet, you know, it looked like there were some solid fencing around there. There's no solid fencing around the shed. No.
Speaker 13Now the back end, but it fell down. So we went to one of the stores to the woods.
Speaker 5Yeah. I mean, considering the location next to the woods there two and a half feet. It's it's that close to the three foot requirement. I don't have a problem, you know, but the problem is is that if it's what the officer has done here, it says one feet and she was basing that off of your survey. So again, I mean, if you could relocate it to the conforming location, it just resolves it again. Or if you decided you want to put the fence up would be easier or, you know, either relocating to the conforming location or just put up a solid fence around it. And I think that'll be satisfactory.
Speaker 2Okay, perfect. Okay. Any questions from the board for this applicant hearing none, then open it to the public and then we're on the public portion of any questions for this application? No, sir. None. None public portion is closed. I'll make a motion to approve this application based on. Okay. So that's a motion to approve by me and a second by Mr. Tillery. And I got a call
Speaker 1Mr. Taylor, Mr. Weissman, sisters. Neverman Mr. Patel and Chairman Chaill.
Speaker 2Yes. Your application's been approved. It'll be memorialized in a written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will mail that to you and you'll need that for your, your permits guys. Everybody stay safe. Thank you. Let's move on to item number. The 1320 dash D dash 62 V giant. The out is Mr. Bella applicant, Delilah present,
20-ZB-62V - John (Shed Installation) 20-ZB-62 AI  00:49:15 – 00:52:07
Applicant requested variance to install 8-foot by 12-foot shed for storage of garden tractor, lawnmower, blowers, and patio furniture. Lot is undersized in both square footage and lot frontage; shed proposed in conforming location. No public comment. Vote: Approved 5-0 with allowance to defer installation to spring if winter weather prevents completion.
Speaker 1Unmute yourself. Mr. DeLong,
Speaker 2Mr. Delilah, I need to swear you away. Did you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth so help you God? Yes. Could you explain to the board, what you'd like to do with
Speaker 14My name is John. I live at 4 36 Edwards.
Speaker 2Yeah. Mike's getting out people
Speaker 1Get here.
Speaker 2Okay. Can you explain to the board what you'd like to do here?
Speaker 14Yes. I would like to get installed a shared, which is eight feet wide by 12 feet deep. And it's going to be picked up a shed and it's going to be assembled nice on the farm. And a main reason for putting up the shed is I know the garden tractor, which has a bed around the bed. And also I have my lawnmower batter, blowers, edger, as well as patio furniture, which I need to put it away during winter.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 3Okay. Mr. Chairman, the applicant is only here because his lot is a little undersized, both with square footage and lot frontage. The shed is proposed to being a conforming location.
Speaker 2Okay. But if to do that again, we like to expedite these as quickly as possible as anyone on the board have any questions for that application hearing none. I'd like to open up the public portion and when the public is Buckley Chairman, okay. I'm closing the public portion. Now how many commotion to approve this application? Okay. We've got a motion to approve the application and we had a motion to second by Steve Weitzman. Please call the own.
Speaker 1Yes. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Patel and chairman
Speaker 2Cahill. Yes.
Speaker 3The application has been approved. We will memorializing the written document at our next meeting. You don't need to be present for that. We will tell that to you, but you'll need that document to get your, your permit.
Speaker 14The question <inaudible> thanks.
Speaker 3Yes, you can. You can order the shed. We will memorialize this at our next meeting in two weeks.
Speaker 14And does it have to be installed during winter months or I can, because if it's going to be around November and December, beginning, so sometime in that area, so that depending on the weather, you know, it may not be installed and it missed it in my driveway or wherever. Is that okay if I install it in the spring? Yes.
Speaker 3You've got the variants. You can install it whenever you want.
Speaker 14Oh, Hey.
Speaker 2Thank you, sir. Good luck guys. Okay. Let's move on to item. 14, 20 days, ZB dash 47 V I've Raheem of the live site as here.
20-ZB-47V - Raheem Family (Home Addition with Bedroom Expansion) 20-ZB-47 AI  00:52:25 – 01:05:12
Applicants (family of six) requested variances for two-story addition with multiple bedrooms and coverage increase. Applicants argued need for bedroom space for four children. Hinterstein expressed primary concern: front yard setback of 25 feet (35 required) is too severe when combined with coverage variance, particularly given 30-foot setbacks on adjacent properties. Hinterstein recommended 30-foot minimum setback and suggested redesign to relocate patio or shift addition toward rear. Chairman encouraged applicants to have architect contact Hinterstein to address concerns. Application carried/adjourned to November 12th pending revised plan submission.
Speaker 3Good evening. Are you going to be testifying at night? Yes.
Speaker 2And my wife and we hoping our architect. Maybe you will join us
Speaker 3For now. Let's swear. You and your wife in, could you raise your right hand? Do you swear the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth. So help you out one at a time. Could I have your name and address please?
Speaker 2You bring your mouth is 1 61 Johnson avenue, Piscataway New Jersey.
Speaker 15Yeah. Allie. I eat 1 61 and avenue with battery Jersey.
Speaker 3Would you spell your first name please?
Speaker 15L a I E L Y.
Speaker 3Thank you. Could you explain to the board what you would like to do here?
Speaker 15So we are a family of six. We have four children, varying ages, 1750 and 12 and seven all now of course at home and work, they're going to stay quiet. So we're trying to get them to the house because they to move out of Piscataway because they love the system in the school system and they don't want to go anywhere. So we need room because I'm going to have one going to college next year. And the bedrooms are exactly for them to sleep or all four of them are on bunk beds and they're growing out of them and they just need, they need room. I have an artist she's going to college next. Year's all her art supplies are underneath her bed because we have no room. So it's hard to get an extension.
Speaker 16Yeah.
Speaker 3Have you had an opportunity to look at Mr. Hinterstein October 5th report?
Speaker 5Yes we did.
Speaker 3But you address items one and two, please
Speaker 5Looking at the drone. What we have some minutes and I'm trying to apply number one required back. No, I'm sorry. I need some help to make sure I understand. Number one correctly. Yup,
Speaker 3Absolutely. Mr. Hinterstein is here. He can explain that, Mr. Hinterstein.
Speaker 5Yeah. Basically number one is the problem is, is that there's two variances. One is covering. So you're over on coverage and the coverage mags isn't really that great of Americans, if that was the only barrier, but unfortunately in conjunction with the coverage variance, you also have a front yard setback, which is rather severe but required in the zone is 35 feet, I believe. And you're asking for 25 feet. So that's sort of the, the dilemma of it's not only, you know, that you're asking for a coverage rates, which are typically on the hard side to get, but yours is again, more on the minimum. I would say the minor side, if it was just the coverage or you're compounding that with the front yard, except back then. So again, I think what you need to look at is there, unfortunately there's, you know, a William street there's houses on both sides.
Speaker 5They both have, you know, th the closest setback is the, is the one basically to the, to the west. That's a 30.9 front yard set back the house to the east of you has a 40 foot 30, actually 35 to 40, so 35 foot setback. So that will comply. So again, I think, I think I need you to try to try to work something out, maybe with your architect to try to modify the, where, you know, maybe you can just reduce it. I, I think it's, I think if the setback where, you know, it's worst case, I want you to street that 30 feet that sort of maps the adjacent property. I think that would be something on the corner property that, that the board could live with. So, you know, again, because that your house is built parallel to Johnson avenue and William street is a little bit out of on an angle.
Speaker 5It may mean that the addition is almost complying on the westerly side, but again, on the easterly side, and they have like a five foot barriers for that corner. So maybe you can look at it and see if maybe you could, you know, there's sort of a off the family room. There's like a wide area there, or maybe that could be combined with another area. I don't know what that does the second floor, but you know, maybe there's a way you could, you could look at moving the addition around, shrinking it on the side. Perhaps it increases a little bit in the back of the house. And, and you come up with a little bit of a different solution that reduces that front yard setback. Again, it's not so much the coverage, but it's the coverage and the setback together that becomes the issue. And the setback is really the, the main, main concern here because of the location that the house is on both sides of you.
Speaker 5We don't want to keep that side corridor and have you jetting out further than the other houses by that much. So I, I totally understand. And I appreciate that comment. I, I have the other sides, which is more into Johnson. I have a neighbor which he just built a brand new house and he's coverage is more than the 35% and he got approved and he did a really build to that view of house. There's no, there's no house that got a 35% coverage there. I can guarantee to this board. And we, we, I don't think ever heard of any, any current variance for that. That's a crazy coverage. You might've been set back. You may be in the setback, variance not covered. That's what I meant. Again, we look at each case on its own merits, what somebody did, another location. I don't, I don't know what the houses were, what they look like adjacent to this property. But again, on this particular lot, I look at the properties that are sort of on both sides and we've down on William street. And with that corridor, and what I'm seeing is, is that, you know, I don't see really anything less than 30 feet.
Speaker 15That's what our architects I'm convinced. He did do surveys around and our areas. And he was saying that really, in order to have a bedroom, which is what they need, they need, at least it needs to be at least 30. So if we can keep it at 30, is that okay?
Speaker 5I think we could live at 30. I think if you get some vacation work plan with it, the challenge here, sir, it's, it's basically the room need to be minimum to go out right now. We are proposing a 16 foot out bullet 0.9. We can go three feet back, you know, and we'd be at at 14. So instead of 17 going out to William, we only gonna go out up to 14. Is that okay?
Speaker 3Well, it is Europe is your architect on this? Is he present for this meeting tonight?
Speaker 5Trying to get through, for some reason he has some connection problem
Speaker 3That that's okay. We all, we all have those from time to time. What I would recommend since I'm the board attorney and you're not an architect, is that you review this with your architect because he will know, or she will know whether or not they can do this. And if the architect has any questions, he should give Mr. Hinterstein a call so that Mr. Hinterstein can clearly explain to him what his concerns were as he did tonight. But your architects not present.
Speaker 5Can I ask you just to give us 10 minutes or so maybe you go to the next eight days to get them on the phone, try to get him, join us. Well,
Speaker 3Well, sir, eight, the board is going to require a re revised plan. I see a revised plan. Can't be prepared in 10 minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 5You're not drilling us.
Speaker 3So what I would recommend is that we adjourn this matter until competing In that time, your architect can review this and perhaps submit a revised plan that addresses the board's concerns. And hopefully we can move forward at that time. Even if your architect was here tonight, we weren't going to vote on this because we don't have the revised plan in front of us. Right.
Speaker 15Okay. So whatever he suggested he would revise it to that because that's what, you know, he's going to come back and say like, what, what are they, what are we going to revive to? So if we tell him to keep that instead of 16.9 to 14 down to,
Speaker 3Well, I don't think that I don't think that dresses Mr. Hinterstein is concerned. I think he wants you to get it to a 30 foot setback. Is that correct? Henry?
Speaker 5Yeah. I think, I think the magic number is trying to maintain a 30 foot setback along William street. Again, 30.9. Was that the house to the, to the little west again, I think 30 is the magic number that is going to get you an approval that I think the township could live with. Again, you have, because you're a house, re-oriented the way it's oriented. Your side yard is actually to the, to the right of the, to the house next year, you willing to speak house. So he had that sort of noted wrong on the plan. So the backyard is always opposite. The shortest frontage on a corner property. So your side yard, your setback on the back of your house is only 10 feet to that property, that property line. So you have more room to probably work with maybe to the back of your house. So again, talking to the architect, perhaps again, you go a little bit more out the back and, and, and, and the glass out towards Williams street. And just try to somehow work with that 30 foot magic number. And what's the setback to my neighbor. Like how many foot I need to key out to be 10 feet away from the house adjacent to you ongoing street. And you have to be 25 feet away from the house. That's next to you on Johnson avenue?
Speaker 2Can I make a suggestion? You're paying this architect a lot of money. What you should do. I say you are, I've been there. What he should do is have the architect contact and re and Henry can the line by line, go down each of his concerns and we'll work with you. We do it all the time. We'll work with you to get you the big house you want, but to be conforming to what the lot size is and to the, the laws and bylaws of the township. So no, we're not prepared to vote on the, the application tonight. We'd need revise plans that the architect will come up with. Once he's worked with Henry and getting all the concerns level, the way you saw, how quickly tonight we made approvals, when there were no concerns by the township on the side of impact, we we'd stamped you guys and you were on to watching the Yankee game. So I would suggest you have the architect, get in touch with Henry, have them fight it out. Those are the two professionals. And you know, when the dust settles come back before us, w when, when could they be, what, what's the date that we could give
Speaker 1Them?
Speaker 3I think we need the date of the November meeting.
Speaker 2Is that, is that okay with you guys? November 12th? The way I think that's in your best interest. And we, we love working with the residents. We would just, we just have to make sure that it's, it's confirming conforming to the lot size. Understood. Okay, well, we'll put, we'll put you down for the February 12th and we'll see you in a month. Okay. So
Speaker 3Anyone here on the Dell side application, it is going to be carried to November 12th with no further notice by the applicant. The only notice you're receiving is my announcement here tonight. We'll see you on November 12th and I
Speaker 1Will email you the zoom information. So can get back on it.
Adoption of Resolutions from September 24, 2021 Meeting AI  01:05:12 – 01:06:57
Board adopted four resolutions from prior regular meeting: Kevin Herrick application (approved), Dane Reeves fence application (approved), Muslim Center of Middlesex County major subdivision (approved), and Carabella condition relief (approved). All votes were 5-0.
Speaker 2Hey guys, thanks for everything. We'll see you in a month. Let's move to item 15. The adoption of the resolutions from the regular meeting of September 24, 21. First resolution is Kevin Herrick application was approved. Mr. Tillery? Yes. The truer Reggio. Mr. Weissman, Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel. Jeremy K. Hill. Yes. Next is application Dane Reeves. This was a fence which was approved. Mr. Tillery? Yes. The Weissman Zimmerman. Mr. Patel. Yeah. Do you want me to tell you how yes. Next is Muslim center of Middlesex county. A major subdivision, Mr. Tillery. Yes. The Weissman. Yes. Mr. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Jeremy Cato. Yes. Last resolution is Carabella. This was relief from a condition which you voted to approve Mr. Tillary. Yes. The Weissman. Yes. Zimmerman. Yes. Mr. Patel. Yes. Jeremy Cahill. Yes. Those are all the resolutions I haven't seen. Okay. Item 16. I'll make a motion to adopt the minutes from the regular meeting of September 24th, 2020. Can I get a second? Thank you. Can I go up down here and day on this? Is that okay? All in favor. Thank you. Oh my goodness. All right. So
Meeting Adjournment AI  01:06:57 – 01:07:11
Chairman adjourned meeting.
Speaker 0You guys in two weeks,
Speaker 2Guys, y'all take care. All right. Bye-bye thank you. Bye
Speaker 0<inaudible>. <inaudible> <inaudible> <inaudible> Henry.
Minutes for Piscataway Zoning meeting on October 8 2020