Transcript for Piscataway Planning meeting on April 14 2021

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Speaker 1     00:00:08    Okay. Madam chair. It is seven 30.  
Speaker 2     00:00:12    All right. The Piscataway township planning board meeting will please come to order in compliance with the open public meetings act adequate. Notice of the meeting provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice published in the star ledger notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building. Notice a nail made available through the township clerk and the township librarians. Maybe have the reading of the department of community affairs guidelines,  
Speaker 3     00:00:44    Certainly Madam chair and keeping with the department of community affairs guidelines, uh, promulgated as part of the COVID pandemic. This meeting is being held virtually, um, notice of the zoom, um, information to log in or call into the meeting has been part of the notice. Um, I believe the Paskataway planning board has complied with the guidelines to the best of their ability and the meeting should proceed virtually. Thank you.  
Speaker 2     00:01:11    Madam clerk, would you please call the roll  
Speaker 1     00:01:13    Marijuana? Councilwoman K health care. Ms. Corcoran here. Ms. Saunders. Un-muted her. She's not muted. Carol. Reverend Kenny, Mr. Espinosa.  
Speaker 4     00:01:41    He's  
Speaker 1     00:01:41    Muted again. Why does he keep muting himself? He said here, Laura. I say it. Okay Here. I don't know why it's doing that. Chairperson Smith here.  
Speaker 2     00:01:59    We will. Now all recite the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to  
Speaker 4     00:02:06    The United States of America Stands one nation under God, indivisible with  
Speaker 2     00:02:17    Liberty, Liberty justice. Uh, we're have the swearing in of the professionals. Um, Ms. Saunders,  
Speaker 1     00:02:37    She's raising her hand she's muted  
Speaker 3     00:02:40    And Laura, just so you know, some, uh, Brian put in the comments, it says go to participants tab and there's an option to allow attendees to anew.  
Speaker 1     00:02:48    I have that. Oh, okay. I don't know why I have everything open. I don't have mute upon entry. Everything is there. And then when I go to security, that's the other one they can unmute themselves. Anybody can. So I don't know why it's  
Speaker 2     00:03:05    And again, this was working fine, but we had it on the computers today. So  
Speaker 4     00:03:10    Aye. Aye, aye, aye, Mr. Gottlieb. But that is about as so to have, um, anyone in the general public raise their hand and then Laura would have the opportunity to unmute them. And I, you know, there's no way to really break that up.  
Speaker 1     00:03:26    Carol, can you hear us now or speak? Carol's not muted. So that might be on her end. How am, I don't know if you want to swear Mr. Gottlieb in  
Speaker 2     00:03:41    Mr. Garland, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes I do. Thank you. Okay. Well, uh, would, uh, are there any changes to the agenda tonight? Yes. There are some,  
Speaker 3     00:03:57    Yes. Madam chairwoman, number 11, the Goldman Rutgers land matter has been postponed to 2021. They will re notice number 12, 17 Plainfield avenue has been postponed until May 12th, 2021. They will not send any further notice. So if you're on this meeting for that matter, you will not get a new,  
Speaker 5     00:04:27    The,  
Speaker 3     00:04:28    And then number 13, the minaret investments LLC has also been postponed until May 12th, 2021. And again, no further notice is required.  
Speaker 2     00:04:41    Thank you. Okay. Item number seven. Adoption of resolution to memorialize action taken on March the 10th, 2021.  
Speaker 5     00:04:54    Okay. Can you hear me now? Okay. I had to dial in from a landline. Okay. Um, I like to memorialize, um, the resolutions from March 11th, 2021.  
Speaker 2     00:05:09    I have a second Cherokee Roco.  
Speaker 1     00:05:13    Sure. Okay. On this one, Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders? Yes. Reverend Kenny. Mr. Foster. Yes. In Madam chair. Yes.  
Speaker 5     00:05:27    Madam chair. I'd like to adopt the minutes from the regular meeting of March 11th, 2021  
Speaker 2     00:05:33    Second. Do I have a second? I'll second. That darn Corcoran  
Speaker 1     00:05:39    Marijuana. Ms. Corcoran. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenney. Mr. Espinosa, Mr. Foster. And that I'm chair. Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:05:57    Number nine. Why did you want to be 21? PB, zero blogs with eight Realty circle, grass development, LLC, preliminary and final site one.  
Speaker 6     00:06:11    Thank you. Madam chair, members of the board. Good evening. My name is Harvin. I tell them attorney at law license, practice Jersey. And they're proud to represent you before the planning board this evening. This is the circle drive applications that are correct. We, since we have two of them, right.  
Speaker 6     00:06:35    And if I may be, uh, reports that we've had a chance to review and just so the board members can also be comfortable with, uh, all of the staff reports generated is that we will be addressing those this evening. We have a February 25th, 2021 letter to chairman and swims from Don Corcoran, March 2nd, 2021 approval, far Marshall Robert gore, March 17th, 2021. No comment from DPW Sperry, uh, March 23rd staff report from Mr. Interesting, March 19th Dolan and Dean traffic review letter. And finally we have the March 22nd, 2021 CME review letter. Uh, is that the complete set that we'll be working with this evening? Sparkling?  
Speaker 3     00:07:25    I don't. I'm sorry. Um, Arvin on the one from Ms. Corcoran. It's a revised date of March 24th. You have that?  
Speaker 6     00:07:35    We did. I apologize that it's, uh, originally dated February 25th and it was revised on March 24th,  
Speaker 3     00:07:43    Correct? Yes. Okay.  
Speaker 6     00:07:47    Um, is that indicated earlier? Uh, this is a currently a vacant property located at 1 41 circle drive north it's about five and a half, a little bit more than five acres in size. It's designated as blocked 41 to two. And it's bounded in general terms on the north side by circle drive north and to itself five possum town roads what's proposed for the site is at the site will be cleared and improved so that there will be 119 truck and a tractor parking spaces with security accoutrements as well. Your card shack and attended fencing surroundings. And this property will be used for staging for delivery for Bob's discount furniture to be the tenant, uh, for the building, just down the road on one 50 old new Brunswick at this board approved that large warehouse, one 50 old new Brunswick road. Uh, we were fortunate enough to get a national tenant retailer and that national tenant retailer will be utilizing this lot, uh, to have box trucks essentially, uh, that will be in the morning, uh, picked up by drivers, go out to make their deliveries and then come back in the evening.  
Speaker 3     00:09:20    Oh, he froze. Did we lose him? Yeah, he froze. Give him a second. Okay. Most of the drop in the hockey game.  
Speaker 6     00:09:33    Okay. W was I knocked out yes.  
Speaker 3     00:09:39    To make deliveries went out.  
Speaker 6     00:09:43    Okay. Uh, there'll be dropping off, uh, their private vehicles obviously pick up the trucks to go out, to make deliveries during the day, and then come back the end of the day, they'll pick up their private vehicles and leave the delivery vehicles at the 1 41 circle drive north side. Um, and these operations we're anticipating will last, as long as the Bob's discount furniture is continued tenant at that site. Um, I have three witnesses that I'd said, uh, and Madam chair with your permission, I'd like to call our first witness, uh, who will be represented that duke Realty, Mike Davis  
Speaker 2     00:10:24    Ahead.  
Speaker 6     00:10:26    And Mike is on camera. Let's make sure that you're, un-muted Mike  
Speaker 3     00:10:30    And let's have Ms. Saunders sweater.  
Speaker 2     00:10:33    There you go. Well, you're not quite on you. Oh, there you go. Ms. Saunders, would you swear Mr. Davis,  
Speaker 5     00:10:40    Um, Mr. Davis, can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Can you please state and spell your last name for the record?  
Speaker 7     00:10:51    Sure. Mike Davis, D a V I S. Thank you.  
Speaker 6     00:10:57    Thank you. Uh, Mr. Davis, tell the board, if you would having your employer,  
Speaker 7     00:11:04    Certainly a GDB, a member of the board, Mike Davis. I am a director of development services for duke Realty corporation. In that position. I oversee the acquisition and evaluation of land for the company's development pursuits. And then I also oversee the land use approval permitting and site design process.  
Speaker 6     00:11:26    And how long have you been in that capacity with duke Realty?  
Speaker 7     00:11:30    Just over six years.  
Speaker 6     00:11:32    And prior to that, were you also engaged in similar activities with other, uh, other Realty development?  
Speaker 7     00:11:39    Yes, I was. I was employed for 15 years prior to duke my tenure with duke Realty as a project manager for a civil engineering land use consulting firm.  
Speaker 6     00:11:50    Yeah. Um, I want to be clear my introduction. You're familiar with the one 50 old new Brunswick site as well as that, correct?  
Speaker 7     00:11:58    Yes, I am. And  
Speaker 6     00:12:00    You're familiar with this side of 1 41 circle drive. Yes,  
Speaker 7     00:12:04    I am.  
Speaker 6     00:12:05    And, um, as I tried to explain, there will be some harmonious interaction between the two sites, uh, for use by the proposed tenant, which is Bob's discount furniture, uh, at the 1 51 old new Brunswick horrible site. Is that correct?  
Speaker 7     00:12:22    That's correct.  
Speaker 6     00:12:23    All right. Tell us if you would a little bit about, uh, how that came about and I'm how Bob's discount furniture had approached you with this and how you see this operation, as I've explained it to you, uh, will be carried out if this board were to approve the application.  
Speaker 7     00:12:42    Certainly, um, approximately 12 to 10 months ago, Bob's discount furniture approach duke on behalf of our project at one 50 old new Brunswick road, that project was in its early construction phase, having just been approved and starting construction on that project. Bob's discount furniture inquired with us as to the availability to utilize, to utilize that building for the delivery of furniture Bob's discount furniture. I'm sure many of you are familiar with it. If you're not, they are a, a national furniture retailer. They are one of the fastest growing furniture retailers in the country. Um, they recently just hit the top 10 in terms of furniture, sales nationwide. And so they approached us about utilizing one 50 old new Brunswick to store furniture and help them facilitate delivery of that furniture to their customers, primarily through central New Jersey and, uh, through Staten island, as part of, as part of them utilizing that building, they also asked, uh, to utilize circle drive as a support supporting operation to that facility.  
Speaker 7     00:13:58    And while that the main building at one 50 old new Brunswick road will receive the majority of furniture store it, process it and queue it for delivery. A circle drive will be the, the part of the operation by which they manage their delivery, their delivery and trailer staging fleet. And so in, in its simplest form circle drive will be where the delivery drivers. There's typically a team of two delivery personnel that will, uh, uh, drive a box truck and deliver furniture to your home. They will begin their day by driving to circle, drive, parking their vehicles, getting an a box truck that has already been loaded. They will deliver the furniture that they have for that day for through their route. They will return to one old new Brunswick road and unload any additional furniture that wasn't delivered any returns. And then they will repackage and reload that, that truck for the next day delivery and thereby returned circle drive, store the vehicle there overnight and take their car and go home for the day. And that is primarily how they will use that a lot to support the operation. They will also park, uh, trailers that are not in use and are going between between the two facilities as a furniture comes in as delivered and as furniture goes out. So that that's, that's essentially what Bob's is going to use circle drive for. Right. If the members of the board have any questions of Mr. Davidson,  
Speaker 8     00:15:38    Uh, does the board have any questions of Mr. Davis at this time? Madam chair, this is Dawn quirk. And I have one question. Sure. Go ahead, Mike. I don't see any, um, car parking proposed. So when the employee comes to this site, where, how does that operation work? Where exactly do they put their car, why they're taking that box truck out.  
Speaker 7     00:16:01    That's a great question. We've been working with Bob's to get a better idea of how they intend to utilize to D to do that. What they've, what we've preliminarily discussed is that as you, and I'm sure you have, if you're looking at a site plan, when you, when you enter the facility from circle drive, you go through a guard, a guard house, and just out of the guard house is where the trailer parking starts. That area there is where they will park, uh, park their vehicles. It's the closest to the entrance. That way they're not intermingling with, with park trailers or with, uh, trucks coming and going. They will just take a, uh, a first come first serve spot and sort of manage that parking on their, on their own as a, uh, as, as necessary.  
Speaker 8     00:16:53    Okay. Thank you.  
Speaker 9     00:16:59    Yes, Madam chair. Um, if I could, if I could just to follow up, because Dawn's question, uh, this is council woman Kay hill, um, uh, prompted a question on my part. So Mr. Davis, if, um, the intended, um, tenant is working on the case, I need everything is going to have to be on that application to the townships requirement. Is that accurate? Um, I'm just wondering, you know, we'll see those plans before approval, correct. For parking for employees,  
Speaker 7     00:17:38    We've got our engineer or site engineer who will probably be able to address that a little bit better.  
Speaker 9     00:17:44    Okay. Very good. Thank you.  
Speaker 8     00:17:48    Any other questions from  
Speaker 10    00:17:50    Madam chair? I have a question in regards to that, because several times in a very stiffened areas they've been using these box trucks and the box trucks would come out of their parking space and overnight, and then they put their car where the box truck is. That's a great concern of mine. That's why, uh, uh, Dewan wanted to know if they're going to have a designated area for this park, because I've seen problems with that. If they're using that box truck to park that vehicle where that box truck was, that's my concern.  
Speaker 7     00:18:33    That that is certainly a way in which some tenants park that run their operations in discussing that with Bob's sorry for that. And discussing that with Bob's, we'll have to think through that a little bit more, but our, our intention is, is not to utilize a situation where you're intermingling trucks with cars, where we try to keep that as segregated as possible due to the obvious conflicts that arise.  
Speaker 8     00:19:03    And, and just one follow-up, I'm sorry, this is John Corcoran again. Mike, do you know approximately how many employees you may have coming over here on average?  
Speaker 7     00:19:14    Yes, we do. They, they will run at, at peak season peak season being Thanksgiving, Christmas, right about now in the spring, they will run on average about 40 box trucks out of that facility at a time. And that's generally a one to two man crew based on the route and the, the, uh, primarily based on the route and, and what specific furniture is being delivered.  
Speaker 8     00:19:46    Thank you.  
Speaker 2     00:19:48    Any other questions from the board? Uh, we will now open it up. Ms. Buckley, would you check to see if there's any questions from the public?  
Speaker 7     00:19:57    Um, yes. There is a Brian.  
Speaker 2     00:20:02    Yes. Brian, would you give us your name?  
Speaker 11    00:20:05    Uh, Brian rack, 1247 Brookside road.  
Speaker 2     00:20:09    Thank you. What's your question? Uh,  
Speaker 11    00:20:11    Are you, I don't ha I can't see the plan. So maybe this is addressed on them, but are you keeping the screening and stuff on possum town road? I know the park is right across from that. I would hate to have the park look out onto a big parking lot.  
Speaker 7     00:20:25    We'll have our site engineer address that.  
Speaker 11    00:20:27    Okay. Thanks.  
Speaker 2     00:20:31    Thank you. Any other questions from the public? No. Madam chair, close to the public. Uh, Mr. Uh, Arvin, do you have any other questions of this witness? If not, we can call the next person.  
Speaker 6     00:20:47    Thank you. Madam chair. I have no other questions for Ms. Davis, uh, with your permission, I'll call our site engineer, uh, Greg Coleman for Menlo engineer. It doesn't matter what background I pick his man cave. Big background is not only real.  
Speaker 5     00:21:15    Hello? Um, yes. Did you swear that the testimony about to give me the truth and nothing but the truth? I do please state and spell your name for the record.  
Speaker 12    00:21:29    Gregory omen, O M a N. Thank  
Speaker 5     00:21:32    You.  
Speaker 6     00:21:34    Thanks, Greg. Um, can you give us the, uh, the benefit of your credentials and, uh, the last time that you appeared before this board is an expert in the field dimension here?  
Speaker 12    00:21:43    Sure. I am the president and owner of Menlo engineering associates have been employed by Menlo engineering for over 23 years now, a licensed professional engineer in the state of New Jersey and Pennsylvania have been licensed in the state of New Jersey now for over 19 years. And I, all the work on this project was done in my supervision. I believe the last time I was in front of this board was for one 50 old new Brunswick road by maybe mistaken,  
Speaker 6     00:22:10    Which leads me to my next question, which is, you're obviously familiar with both the one-fifty new Brunswick site and also the proposed site here. Just 1 41 circle. Correct. Okay. Now, um, having, uh, familiarity with both that, uh, you've heard the testimony that Mr. Davis is provided and also my opening statements, if you can, why don't you walk us through the existing conditions of the site, uh, and what's proposed for the site and to keep in mind some of the, um, uh, the comments that were brought out regarding parking and screening as well.  
Speaker 12    00:22:46    Sure. I'm just going to share my screen right now. Let's see. Can everyone see the aerial photo? Yes,  
Speaker 12    00:23:00    The good start. Okay. So I have two exhibits that I've pre-marked, uh, the first marked a one with today's date is entitled existing conditions. Exhibit it is an aerial photo showing the property boundary and the surrounding area. The property for this application is a 5.59 acre parcel identified by the township tax map as block 41 0 2 lot to the site falls within the 1 41 circle drive north redevelopment zone. And what is being proposed here tonight is a permitted use under that redevelopment zone site is bound. North is basically to the right side of the screen, Boston town road to the south circle, drive north to the north side, and it wooded areas to the west and to the east. And just off to the property on the Eastern end is a tributary to Ambrose Brook, right? How with brute Brooke, uh, that is basically under the jurisdiction of the EDP site. Today is fully wooded. There's a small isolated pocket of wetlands centrally located on the property. It drains from a north, the south Southeast direction, and along the Eastern most property line, there's an 18 inch gravity sewer line that actually falls on our property within an easement.  
Speaker 12    00:24:24    My next exhibit, which is marked as a two, everyone can see this perfect, uh, entitled overall plan exhibit. This is what the proposal is. Maybe I can zoom in a little bit. Maybe that's a little bit better. Yeah. What we're proposing here is a total of 119 trailer storage spaces, 12 feet with by 60 feet in depth, we have full movement access driveways off of both possum town road to the south circle drive to the north. We have a 30 foot wide driveway off of POS and town road. This is going to be the secondary entrance way. The primary entrance is going to be off of circle drive in which the width is approximately 37 feet wide. As you enter in off of circle, drive north, you approach a 65 square foot guard house. Knowing the plan submitted this guard has actually fell partially into the front yard setback.  
Speaker 12    00:25:19    We're we're pushing this guard house a little further into the site SU eliminate that bearance request. So we are out of the front yard setback along circle drive north around the improvements, including the parking lot. And up two entrance ways. We have a six foot high black vinyl coated chain link fence with security gates located at each entrance. We are proposing a six foot wide dedication to the township along circle drive north in order to provide the necessary half with along circle drive any 19 foot combination of right away, dedication and road easement along Paul possum town road. Again, to meet the required half with a 52 feet along possum town road along boats site frontage is we are proposing a five foot wide concrete sidewalk for pedestrian access along the entire width of the property. As I've mentioned, the site drains from the north to south Southeast direction.  
Speaker 12    00:26:19    We are increasing impervious coverage on site by more than a quarter of an acre and disturbing over an acre of property. Therefore, we are considered a major development for storm water management in order to address the rate of runoff, how fast the water leaves the site along the Eastern end of the property. We have designed an underground detention basin, which is going to reduce the rate of runoff from the site up and including the a hundred year storm, that detention basin then slows the water down, conveys it through a manufactured treatment device located just to the Eastern side of possum town road entrance, in which this manufacturer treatment device storm filter provides the 80% TSS or total suspended solids removal rate to meet the water quality requirements per the town county and state requirements. We don't have a very high utility demand on the site because of the guard house, but we are anticipating that it probably will have a restroom in it.  
Speaker 12    00:27:15    So we are going to bring in water electric gas, and we're going to have the on-site sewer lateral connection, right on site, uh, easy connections, direct shot from circle drive north. We are proposing led light fixtures throughout the entire development. 12 of them to be total 323 watt fixtures mounted at 24 and a half feet high. The redevelopment ordinance requires a put 0.5 foot candle maximum at all. Property lines plan submitted exceed that at two locations at both of the entrance ways, we have looked at the light fixtures closest to these driveways, and we can either change the optics of each of those light fixtures or slide them in slightly to comply with that. So we are not requesting a deviation from the ordinance for 0.5 foot candle, a maximum at the property lines.  
Speaker 12    00:28:08    The question that was raised regarding the, whether you're going to be able to see this and the existing vegetation, we are maintaining as much of the existing vegetation as we can along each of the street frontage is to minimize visibility of this from the road. Basically what we have. If you're looking at possum town road, we have the 30 foot wide driveway. And then on either side, we have just enough clearing just to allow some grading, to work with the security fence. And then we're going to supplement that in with some additional planting in some of the low-lying areas, along both POS and town and circle drive, we are supplementing in some additional trees and plantings. There are some dead trees out there that were kind of filling in the voids. We're proposing our street trees as required by the township comprised mostly of Oaks in total, we're proposing 95 trees, 118 shrubs and 246 ground cover species.  
Speaker 12    00:29:05    We're proposing two monument signs, one being located at each of the two entrance ways. They are 60 square feet set off the right of way 25 feet. They are six foot wide by 10 feet tall. As I've mentioned about the deviations, we eliminated the setback for the guardhouse. We eliminated the lighting one that was indicated by staff. So we really have two deviations that we were requesting a bearings for tonight. The first being the redevelopment ordinance does not permit chain link fences. And this particular, this is not your standard galvanized chain link fence that you see a lot. This is a black coated vinyl coated fence that kind of blends in with the existing vegetation, primarily utilized for security. And that's what we're utilizing it here for, with the two swing gates at either of the two entrance ways. The second is fence height, six feet is allowed as a maximum height per the ordinance.  
Speaker 12    00:30:01    And based on the interpretation of the regulation, when you have a fence located along the top of a retaining wall, the fence height is measured at the very bottom of the wall all the way to the top of the fence. And the reason we have a fence, we do have a small retaining wall located at the Southeast end of the property. The maximum height of that wall is approximately four feet in height. We provide a fence along the top of that wall because when there's maintenance crews on top, there is a liability of somebody falling off that wall and hurting themselves. So in total, we're asking for where six foot high fence maximum is permitted per code. We're asking for 10 feet high because it's a six foot fence plus the four foot wall at that particular location. In terms of outside approvals, we will require a Middlesex county planning board site plan approval.  
Speaker 12    00:30:52    We are disturbing over 5,000 square feet. So we will require a soil erosion permit, which is handled by the township. And we have filed and been deemed administratively and technically complete by the NJ DEP for not only wetlands general permits, but also for a flood hazard individual permit due to the flood plain of, of the Brook adjacent to us. Now, there was also a question regarding car parking. When we looked in added originally, we didn't have the guardhouse shown on the plan, and then we showed it, it fell in the setback and now we're sliding it in these 10 trailer parking stalls located at the Northeast corner of the development become troublesome for a track for tractor trailers, not only getting in, but getting out. So we have looked at not changing the curb, not changing the pavement, not changing grading, strictly just eliminating the stripes, adding a small dumpster for garbage pickup on site.  
Speaker 12    00:31:52    And we're looking at restripe this for car parking. We can probably get about approximately 25 car parking stalls in there. This may have to encroach a little further south, but that's based on Bob's operations. Like Arvin said what there, I'm sorry. Mr. Dave is actually indicated that now's their peak season where they're anticipating about 40 trucks. Um, so that will kind of dictate the number of car parking stalls that they would need. There was also one other item that I wanted to touch on that we will also provide one electric charging station for these car parking as required by code.  
Speaker 3     00:32:30    Right Ms. Tomar, this is Tom Barlow. Just a quick question, just to clarify something. What I'm is, you're going to take out 10 of the proposed trailer, truck trailer spots, and replace that with approximately 25 car parks,  
Speaker 12    00:32:51    Car parking stall don't change anything but the Stripe.  
Speaker 3     00:32:55    Gotcha. I just, so it would be 180 and 25, then  
Speaker 12    00:32:59    1, 109, we would end up with 109 trailers store 109 and 25 cardboard. Correct. Thank you. And we were, and we would certainly work with staff on that to make sure all the dimensions, et cetera, are accurate.  
Speaker 6     00:33:18    Madam chair, uh, unless the board member 70 other questions.  
Speaker 2     00:33:23    All right. You finished with your questioning. Um, do any of the members of the board have any questions of this witness?  
Speaker 8     00:33:31    Madam chair, if I may, it's doing brokering. Um, are there any items in the staff report that you can not complete?  
Speaker 12    00:33:40    There is not. And I actually forgot to mention that I have had the opportunity to go through all of the staff reports, the CME letter, the sta uh, planning, uh, engineering, um, and we can comply with everything that was indicated.  
Speaker 2     00:33:54    Great. Thank you. Right. Any other questions from the board?  
Speaker 9     00:34:00    Not immature if I may, Councilman Cahill. Um, I, uh, thank you very much for giving an explanation to answer to those questions. Um, I do have one question. I don't think I see it on the staff report. I could be wrong. I looked at it earlier and I'm looking at it now. Um, the, the entrance and exit on possum town road. Um, um, I'm concerned about left-hand turns out of there. Are we limiting that? I didn't notice that  
Speaker 12    00:34:39    We have our traffic engineer who I believe is next.  
Speaker 9     00:34:44    Okay. So I can I keep asking the wrong person, the question,  
Speaker 2     00:34:57    Okay. Anybody, the questions from the board, then we'll open it up to the public or questions of this witness.  
Speaker 9     00:35:06    Brian rec.  
Speaker 11    00:35:08    Do you need my name and stuff again? Or are you good?  
Speaker 2     00:35:11    Hello? You can give it to us one more time for the record.  
Speaker 11    00:35:13    Brian rag, 1247 Brookside road. Um, is this going to affect the flooding that happens right at the possum town road and railway crossing? I know that's like right down the street from where you're proposing this being built.  
Speaker 12    00:35:27    No, this is so as part of the requirements, because we are a major development, we are required to reduce the rate of runoff leaving the site. We are as part of the N J D P requirement. We had to show and prove that we are not eliminating any flood storage for rehab with Brooke there. That would cause downstream study a flooding. So we have provided those plans to the DEP they're under review right now, but that is a requirement. Okay. Thanks.  
Speaker 6     00:35:55    Sure.  
Speaker 2     00:35:57    Are there any other members of the public who have questions of this witness? All right, then I'll close it to the public. You may call your next witness if there's no other questions for this witness.  
Speaker 6     00:36:11    Thank you with your permission. If I could call Scott kin,  
Speaker 2     00:36:18    What'd you come forth? Where is he?  
Speaker 13    00:36:23    Good evening. And there he is.  
Speaker 5     00:36:26    Can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth, please state and spell your name for the record? Yes,  
Speaker 13    00:36:37    It is Scott Kendall, K E N N E L. I'm with McDonough and REA associates located at 1431 Lakewood road Manasquan. Uh, I'm a partner with McDonough and Ray associates, a traffic and transportation planning firm. I have over 35 years of experience. I've testified before this board in the past, uh, most recently on the one 50 old new Brunswick, uh, warehouse for duke. And I've testified in over a thousand applications in over a hundred municipalities. And I've also been qualified by the New Jersey superior court as a traffic expert.  
Speaker 2     00:37:20    Thank you.  
Speaker 6     00:37:22    I think Madam chair, uh, would you like me to go through further qualifications? Will the board accept him as an expert on the traffic  
Speaker 2     00:37:28    Traffic engineer expert?  
Speaker 6     00:37:30    Thank you. That you're familiar with both this application, the one 50 old new Brunswick site and, uh, the, uh, how the site, uh, is proposed to operate between the two, correct?  
Speaker 13    00:37:42    That is correct.  
Speaker 6     00:37:44    Okay. Walk us through, if you would, uh, pin special attention to the volume of truck traffic, tractor, trailer traffic, uh, Oxford traffic, um, and also, uh, on ingress and egress at the one 50, uh, I'm sorry,  
Speaker 13    00:37:59    1 41, 3 20 21 that was submitted to the board and the initial, um, task was, and we were retained by duke back in 2019. So we were able to conduct, uh, morning and afternoon traffic counts, pre COVID in November of 2019. So in the traffic study, that's submitted to the board is based on traffic that are not influenced or impact by the pandemic and the changed commuter patterns. And so, again, the, the traffic counts were conducted in November. There were done from 7:00 AM to nine 30, where the peak hour or seven 30 to eight 30 with approximately 1500 vehicles. And again, those counts were conducted at possum town road and circle drive. And then on November 19th from three to 6:00 PM, traffic counter conducted with the peak hour occurring from five to 6:00 PM with over 2100 vehicles. So obviously the PM peak hour was, uh, was the highest, uh, traffic volumes as compared to the am.  
Speaker 13    00:39:19    This is a unique type of use. And the fact that typically we consult the Institute of transportation, engineers trip generation manual for a variety of land uses. And that's what, what was utilized on one 50 old, new Brunswick, but given the, um, proposal here with Bob's furniture, they had provided us detailed information, which is summarized in the traffic reports, submitted to the board on the activities that would take place, uh, at this site. And based on the information provided, we estimated traffic during the morning and afternoon, uh, peak hours. And as, as table one in our traffic report indicates it's expected that, uh, during the morning peak hour, there'll be approximately 40 trips to, and from this site. And then in the afternoon we had 69 projected. Uh, we took into consideration the operations that is as Mike Davis, uh, discussed earlier and surcharge that traffic onto the, the driveway, serving the site.  
Speaker 13    00:40:28    Please note that as far as the possum town road driveway, we analyze that as a right in, right out of the meeting because of anticipating concerns. We left her movements, given the volume on possum town road. And secondly, the, the possum town road access, as, as indicated with the secondary axis where again, the majority of traffic will be utilized utilizing circle drive, which has, um, you know, less volume as far as through volume and can function as a full movement driveway. Taking that into consideration. We took the base traffic volumes, expanded them to a designer of 2023 to evaluate what kind of impact the additional traffic would have on the site access as well as at the intersection of possum town road and circle drive. As far as possum Thomas circle drive, there are in the morning peak hour, the levels of service with the no build condition was a level of service B.  
Speaker 13    00:41:31    It would remain a level of be minimal impact by this development during the morning peak hour and in the afternoon, because as I indicated, the PM peak hour has a higher background traffic volumes. The intersection is we'll be operating a level service C and the no build, and it will continue to operate level service C with minimal impact by this development because of the capacity of that traffic signal operation. As far as the possum town road access, we calculate that it would operate a level of service B in the morning, and a level of service C as the board knows, we usually try to have a target level of service of CDs and appropriate design range. And again, we comply with that criteria. And as far as the side driveway to circle drive, that'll operate a level of service B or better B as in boy.  
Speaker 13    00:42:28    So again, based on the low volumes that driveway can operate safely and efficiently as a full movement driveway. And as part of the design, there was a comment in the Dolan and Dane reports, and we will address that and work with the boards professionals to, um, provide clear the appropriate amount of vegetation along circle drive, so that we provide the site distance, uh, required to have traffic moves safely and efficiently in and out of the site, uh, as was indicated by, um, Mr. Omen, the site drivers have been designed to accommodate large wheelbase vehicles, which will be serving the site in our evaluation. It's found out to be accurate. And that again, um, it's, it's expected that traffic can, um, access this site in a safe and efficient manner. Um, and in conclusion, the traffic to be generated by this will not have a negative impact on the adjacent roadways. And it's my opinion that this site can function safely and efficiently.  
Speaker 6     00:43:39    Thank you, Scott. Uh, Adam chair members have any questions from,  
Speaker 2     00:43:45    Um, I'd like to ask the board if they have any questions of this witness,  
Speaker 9     00:43:52    Madam chair, council, and, and kale. I just, I want to make sure I did hear it correctly. Um, because we talked a lot about getting in and out. I just want to make sure that I did hear correctly that on the possum town, um, entrance, that is a right in and right out only, that's what I thought I heard is that accurate.  
Speaker 13    00:44:14    That's how we analyzed it. And that's what I would expect would be the recommendation of Middlesex county when we go to submit the application.  
Speaker 9     00:44:24    Okay. Very good. Thank you so much, Madam chair, this is a marijuana or, uh, I think we, it a  
Speaker 14    00:44:32    Condition, a board approval to make sure there's a prohibited and left, left out on possum town road.  
Speaker 14    00:44:39    And then as an, a note to all the board members, uh, the intersection of possum town road and circle drive, and, and first avenue was built to a level service. He build out, uh, back 10 years ago, um, on the assumption that at some point, uh, some of the development that hadn't taken place on circle drive would be built out in any other future developments in that area. Uh, that intersection would be able to help handle any of the traffic going out in that area. And quite frankly, uh, that is the largest study intersection could possibly get because of the constraints of the floodplain.  
Speaker 2     00:45:20    Thank you, mayor. So noted. Any other questions or comments from the board?  
Speaker 10    00:45:26    Uh, Madam chair, Reverend Kenny, just one question in regards to, uh, the in and out on, uh, the truck traffic and the site. It was that, uh, uh, based on, uh, the 48 foot trailers or 53 foot trailers. Could, could he answer that question for me?  
Speaker 13    00:45:50    Yeah. Again, the, as was described in our traffic report, there'll be a 53 foot trailers there there's a lower volume of those, but then there also be, uh, containers and there will be the box trucks. So there'll be a variety of trucks, sizes servicing this site and that access up and designed to accommodate all those trucks.  
Speaker 10    00:46:12    Okay. That answers my question. Okay. Thank you.  
Speaker 2     00:46:16    Are there any other questions before I open it to the public hearing? No response, um, met him. Buckley, would you check with the public to see if there's any questions?  
Speaker 12    00:46:31    I apologize. I do not see anyone.  
Speaker 2     00:46:35    Thank you. Close to the public. Okay, Mr.  all you have any other witnesses,  
Speaker 12    00:46:43    Mr. Gottlieb  
Speaker 2     00:46:46    Godly?  
Speaker 12    00:46:48    Uh, I'm sorry. I, I can't reach that. I just had one question for, uh, Mr. Almon, um, regarding the, uh, the clearing law, especially along the, uh, possum town road. I do have some concerns regarding the preservation of some of the existing plant material, considering the, uh, the necessity to make sure that all the site distances or, or adequate. And that's what, so what I'm just like to know is I, I would like just to make that you work with Mr.  and, uh, should he, uh, desire additional buffering along the Pantages because of some additional debt, additional clearing that I think will have to occur? I understood. And we certainly, well, we always worked with Henry and we're willing to on this application. Okay. Very good. Thank you.  
Speaker 2     00:47:58    Is there anything else you'd like to sum up or  
Speaker 6     00:48:00    All right, briefly, if I may, Madam chair, we came before you with a number of deviations. If we're looking for, and it's to Perth to see if we've eliminated the deviation that we would have requested for a minimum setback for the guard houses. We've moved that back out of that, uh, to 75 feet back. At least we've eliminated the deviation regarding the maximum permitted foot candles, uh, property while, uh, the one deviation that we still see, however, uh, is, and I'm sorry, with also limited deviation for, uh, the electric vehicle charging, which will be provided as well. One of the things that remain, however, is the type of fence, the height fence, which I consider to be more of a technical barrier fence itself. You look in some portions, even though six foot fence is permitted will be located on top of a retaining, which makes the effective height of the fence all the way below the 10 to more than six feet. Uh, I would ask that the board and ramp the variations of deviation shits, if we're requesting in that regard and look upon this application favorably, as it works harmoniously with the one-fifty old Brunswick site.  
Speaker 2     00:49:17    Thank you. Um, does anyone want to make a motion regarding this application at this time,  
Speaker 8     00:49:32    Man, and chair Don Corcoran, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the application subject to the staff report, the CME report, the Dolan and Dean report. Um, any engineering comments that we may receive from, uh, Dell  
Speaker 14    00:49:53    And also Donna, a prohibitive, no left turn out onto pots and downloads as well as additional buffering as at, by Mr. Winterstein on possum town road.  
Speaker 2     00:50:11    Uh, when someone liked a second, miss, thank you. Maybe we have a roll call, Ms. Buckley.  
Speaker 14    00:50:21    Yes. Sounds a woman Cahill. Yes,  
Speaker 1     00:50:25    Yes. Saunders. Yes. Wherever Kenny. Yes. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     00:50:35    Yes. Thank you everyone. Thank you.  
Speaker 6     00:50:42    Thank you.  
Speaker 2     00:50:58    Are you ready to proceed with your next step? Uh, item number 10 21, PB zero six slash zero seven. Duke Realty, Washington avenue and development, LLC, preliminary and final site plan.  
Speaker 6     00:51:13    Thank you, Adam share. Um, I remain Arvin. I tell them attorneys practice in the state of New Jersey and representing, uh, the applicant before this court is just a redevelopment project as well. And this is an application for the development of the warehouse and office facility located at 1570 south Washington, currently three blocks that comprise, uh, started three lots that comprise the site for development block 5.036, I'm sorry, 5.2 6.02 and 7.02 and block 51, uh, as a housekeeping matter before we started, if I could just confirm that the staff reports that we'll be referencing, um, uh, that we've received from the township are the only ones that remain, which is, uh, February 25th, 2021 letter to chairman chairwoman Smith from Ms. Corcoran. And that was, uh, uh, February 25th, March 24. Well, March 24th, 2021 staff report from Mr. Interesting, March 17th, 2021, no comment, uh, letter from DQW, uh, March 2nd, 2021 approval memo from far Marshall Corp and April 1st, 2021 Dolan and Dean letter supplementing March 19th, 2020 of those letter. And finally in March 18th, 2021 to CME planning, those are the staff reports and experts reports that you've received from potential  
Speaker 2     00:52:51    Is that everybody's understanding of what materials we have. Okay. All right, proceed.  
Speaker 6     00:53:02    So this property, just to orient the board members is roughly founded by 2 87 and access road on the north portion and the Southern portion of the site, roughly founded by Centennial avenue. Um, it's currently, uh, the site, which, uh, the Ava's fleet, leasing operations current. So there's quite a bit of outside vehicles that including trucks and vehicles and other sorts there, there's what what's being proposed for. The site is an improvement, um, to include a 216,000 square foot plus or minus warehouse facility, about 10,500 square feet of office space and 35 loading. Uh, this is a permitted use. We're not asking for this, but there are, uh, two deviations in book standards, which are being sought and I'll address both of those. One of them is electric vehicle charging station is required. We had originally not shown plans that our engineer will testify. We'll be able to provide that.  
Speaker 6     00:54:13    So we're not seeking this deviation. The second is essentially design standards, similar to the one that you heard in the 1 41 circle drive north application, which is we're proposing a six foot black vinyl fence to be located on top of the retaining wall, which makes the effective height of that transport Rader to six feet, which requires a deviation from this board. I think it's a technical deviation we're asking for relief. We have essentially the same batting border. Although we also have architect available, uh, to go through testimony, Madam share with your permission, if it may start off again with Mike Davis and give us a little bit of a history on this site, and also what's proposed.  
Speaker 2     00:54:59    Thank you. You may proceed Mr. Davis, you're already sworn in. Do you still grow  
Speaker 6     00:55:07    Mike? Since, since the last time you testified, you didn't get any text messages saying that your employment status has changed in any way, have you?  
Speaker 7     00:55:14    I have not.  
Speaker 6     00:55:16    Thank goodness. So, uh, Mike, you heard my introduction, um, and you're familiar not only with this site, but with Duke's other operations various. So tell us a little bit about how you came about to acquire this site and what's proposed for the development. I know we don't have a tenant yet, but generally what you're looking for in terms of putting in 10 over 10 locations,  
Speaker 7     00:55:41    Certainly, uh, so similar to circle drive, we, we actually purchased property from the same seller as circle drive. We bought both of these properties together and on the site now, uh, formerly Washington avenue used to house the Avis car rental center. It also, uh, had a trailer storage operation on the Southern Southwestern port portion of that property, where they, uh, uh, stored trailers on, um, on a month to month lease. Since we've acquired that property earlier this year, both the trailer storage operation and the Avis facility have been, those leases have been terminated. And the site is now currently, uh, in those several months, not in use for this property. We intend to build a very similar type of project to our, our development at one 50 old new Brunswick road. We're proposing a approximately 216,000 square foot warehouse facility. And in a facility like that, we typically find tenants who do generally one of three different things.  
Speaker 7     00:56:58    They typically store their product in the facility, much like Bob's discount furniture, storing furniture. They can store any type of product that they, that they buy, build, sell, or distribute. And generally those companies distribute to one of two places to the customer directly much like Bob's discount furniture or to their retail store network. And the facilities such as this will take product from the warehouse to the store in the case of a home Depot or a Walmart, those stores are filled by a product is delivered to those stores from a facility such as what is intended here. Other uses generally could be the storage and distribution of food. That's a slightly different type of building. It's a little bit more specialized when you introduce freezers and coolers, but of a building of this size 216,000 square feet, food users generally, uh, like that size and that type of facility. And then, uh, in addition to that, we, we typically will see, uh, users that do light assembly, product packaging product. They, they, they break down a product, they repackage it, they add components and then they distribute it, ship it, or sell it from the facility in that fashion. And that's generally what, uh, what the, the tenant makeup of, of our portfolio across the country entails.  
Speaker 6     00:58:29    Right? So, uh, Mike, we had indicated earlier is that we don't know who the ultimate tenants can be, but you'd like to build this building so that you can maintain maximum flexibility with a well reputated and long-term test  
Speaker 7     00:58:45    That's correct. We, we approach buildings in this manner, much like one 50 old, new Brunswick road. We, we designed and had that building permitted and approved without a tenant in tow without, without a commitment from a user. And so we designed that building much like we will design this one with the most flexibility inherent to that design, so that any tenant who is available and looking for space, we start construction from the time we start until the time we finish can move into that building with minimal changes to, to the site and to the building. And in general, in New Jersey at this time, the majority of buildings in, in this sector, in the industrial logistics center are pre-leased by the, uh, so, so there they are, they are leased by the time they are finished construction. And that would, that, that's the case for Bob's at one 50. And that's generally what we expect in this case as well.  
Speaker 6     00:59:45    Thank you. Madam sheriff, the members of the board have any questions for today?  
Speaker 2     00:59:50    Um, members of the board. Do you have any questions of Mr. Davis at this time hearing no response. Um, Ms. Buckley, would you check to see if there's any questions from the public?  
Speaker 12    01:00:06    You're not seeing anyone. Madam  
Speaker 2     01:00:07    Chair. Thank you. Close to the public, Mr. Roy, call your next witness.  
Speaker 6     01:00:14    Thank you. And, uh, I'll, uh, call Greg Oman again. Viewed, are you  
Speaker 2     01:00:26    Okay, Mr. Roman, you're still under oath from your previous testimony this evening. Got it. Thank you,  
Speaker 6     01:00:34    Greg. You've had an opportunity to review this application also to prepare the plans and they were prepared under either by you or under your direction,  
Speaker 12    01:00:42    Correct? Correct.  
Speaker 6     01:00:44    And you're thoroughly familiar, not only with the application, but also with the plans that were submitted in conjunction with that  
Speaker 12    01:00:50    Allocation.  
Speaker 6     01:00:52    Yes. Okay. Using the same screen, uh, screen sharing magic that you were able to use before, can you walk us through the existing conditions on the site and then what we're proposing in terms of the improvements that we'd like to make to this?  
Speaker 12    01:01:07    Sure. Let me screen everyone say they area.  
Speaker 2     01:01:14    Yes. Perfect.  
Speaker 12    01:01:16    So again, as the previous application, I pre-marked these two exhibits first being marked a one with today's date, entitled existing conditions, exhibit scenario, photo showing the property boundaries with the surrounding uses. This particular application is a 21.23 acre parcel identified by the township's tax map as block 51 0 1 lots 5.0 to 6.02 and 7.02 property falls within the 1,517 south Washington avenue redevelopment zone. The proposal here is a warehouse building, which is a permitted use within the zone. North is basically straight up on the exhibit site is bound by Centennial avenue, along the south south Washington avenue on the east, the public right of way entitled access road to the north, just to the north of that is route 2 87 and an existing industrial building to the west with some wooded areas also to the west site is partially developed today. It contains two, two story buildings that were previously utilized by Avis rental there a large compacted Bravel parking lot that extends deeper into the site towards Centennial avenue utilized primarily for trailer storage, looking back at old historic aerials.  
Speaker 12    01:02:40    It appears that trailer storage have been occurring on site since as early as the 1960s, this area alone, which was taken back in 2019, I actually counted every one of these. And there's almost 250 trailers stored on site, basically from, from the Southern building down, um, site drains from, uh, north to south direction. There is an existing Culver that runs underneath Centennial avenue that handles the runoff from the site and can conveys that down to the south, a large portion of the site along the Western end and at the Southeast corner is actually wetlands. The Western portion is an isolated pocket of wetlands. As you can see, there really isn't a lot of development on that site side of the site and at the Southeast corner of the property as well. Um, the compacted gravel extends deep into the buffers of these wetlands, some of it even into the wetlands and I'll, and I'll talk about that briefly later on as part of our NJ DEP application, that we have submitted existing utilities that are going to be able that feed the site today, including water, sewer, electric, telephone, and gas, all occur off of access a road and south Washington avenue.  
Speaker 12    01:03:59    My second exhibit entitled overall site plan exhibit marked as a two with today's date. Maybe I can blow this up a little bit as well. That's a little better. Uh, it shows what we are proposing here tonight is a one, one building 216,892 square foot building 200, 6,392 square feet of that building is going to be warehouse with the remaining 10,500 square feet as needed as office space. We're showing three office space is located within the proposed building one along the chamfered end of the building and in kind of the Northern facade, broken into thirds where there's two additional office components to do that. All loading occurs on the Southern side of the building. We're proposing 35 trailer dock spaces, 13 foot on center, 60 feet deep and directly to the south of that. We're proposing 38 trailers storage, spacious 12 feet with by 60 feet in depth, along the Northern and Eastern side of the, of the building.  
Speaker 12    01:05:03    We were proposing car parking stalls, nine feet with by 18 feet in depth, 125 of those stalls were 122 are required by code six of those 125 stalls are ADA compliant. And those are located directly in front of the three office spaces. There are two access points to and from the site, a full movement driveway to the north off of the right away, entitled access road, and then a right in right out driveway, along Centennial avenue, Centennial lab, you'd just have a median. So you're not allowed to make left turns in. And it's only a right in, right out at that particular location. Centennial avenue half with has already been adjusted the right of way is there to meet the master plan of the township. Along south Washington avenue, we are dedicating a small strip of property to provide the necessary 52 foot half with, for south Washington to meet the master plant.  
Speaker 12    01:06:00    We were proposing five foot concrete sidewalks along the front digit of south Washington and Centennial avenue for that entire width of the frontage. And lastly, at the Southeast corner of the building at the loading, the last loading spot, we are proposing a compactor which will handle all trash and recycling for the development. As with the previous application, we are increasing impervious coverage on site, more than a quarter of an acre and disturbing over an acre of property. So we are classified as a major development for the property in terms of storm water management. As I mentioned, site drains from the north, the south direction, we are proposing an above ground stormwater detention basin located at the Southwest corner of the property. This basin will reduce the rate of runoff from the site up to and including the a hundred year storm, the runoff will then be conveyed through a manufactured treatment device, storm filter, which will provide the necessary water quality requirements per the township county and state requirements to meet that 80% TSS removal rate.  
Speaker 12    01:07:03    And eventually that will be then pipe down to the existing culvert, where the runoff all flows to today underneath Centennial avenue utilities to feed the building will be brought in off of south Washington avenue and also from access road within access road. We did some initial discussions with New Jersey American water on their location in some of their flows. It was done a little bit ago, so we're going to get some updated flow data. But generally when we lay out these kinds of buildings, we always anticipate that there may be a pressure issue or flow issue for the event that attendant requires a fire suppression system. So down on the Southern end, it was brought up by the staff report. We do show as a placeholder, a water tank and a pump house room. If necessary. If we find that there is ample pressure out here in volume, these will go away and they will not be required, but we did want to show them on the plans to be reviewed by staff and the board.  
Speaker 12    01:08:01    They've also been included on the DEP application that we filed, because there are some environmental constraints that down here that these impacts. So we wanted to make sure that we wanted to get them on the plan, right from day one, if needed. The last thing we wanted to do was get a DEP approval. We'll get a township approval, start going into building design plans. And the fire sprinkler designer comes back and says, oh, we need a water tank and we need a pump house. Now we have to come back to the board. And now we have to go back to N J D P for more disturbance. So we want to show that on the plants, uh, to be reviewed we're proposing led light fixtures for not the entire development, a total of 10 freestanding fixtures, 129 watt fixtures mounted at 24 and a half feet high and 15 led wall fixtures.  
Speaker 12    01:08:47    Again, 129 Watts mounted at 25 feet, high streetlights occur on Centennial avenue, but we do comply with the 0.5 foot candle maximum at all property lines, including the two driveways off of access road and Centennial avenue. We are maintaining as much vegetation that exists along Centennial avenue today with the exception of the opening for the driveway and some grading, we are proposing two monument signs, one located at each of the entrance ways, similar signs that were on the previous application, 60 square foot monument signs, six feet high, six feet wide. I apologized by 10 feet high we're providing street trees along access road along south Washington avenue. And also along Centennial avenue. Again, supplementing in existing pockets that may be open just to kind of provide a better buffer than that exists today. But for the most part along south Washington and Centennial avenue, we're going to maintain as much of the existing buffer as we possibly can.  
Speaker 12    01:09:51    In total, we're proposing 146 trees, 256 shrubs and 480 ground cover species. As Mr. Uh, as Arvin ed mentioned, we do have the two deviations. One is the fence type actually, in which we propose the chain-link fence on this property that is not permitted by code. This chain link fence is only located along the top of the walls. We can change that fence to a, a post and rail fence to comply with the ordinance. But the one deviation that we still do have is for fence height, where six feet is allowed maximum, right along the entranceway. On the Western side, if you come in off of Centennial avenue, this is the highest wall of the entire property. And the reason is the driveways up high in elevation and the detention basin that happens to be the deepest point of the detention basin. So when you add the wall height, plus the fence where at approximately 13.3, five feet.  
Speaker 12    01:10:53    So there is a requirement of a virus that we are asking from the board to brand for that particular item, we are going to propose the three required electric charging stations, uh, located along the Northern side of the pro, uh, of the building outside approvals necessary. Again, very similar Middlesex county planning board for site plan because we are disturbing over 5,000 square feet. We will require a soil erosion permit from the township. And lastly from NJ DEP, we have filed an application and been deemed administratively and technically complete for the failing and modification of some of the wetlands and transition areas on site. One of those being a transition area, waiver, redevelopment permit that we have requested. And what that is, is for the buffers that are associated with the majority of the wetlands on site today, there are 50 foot buffers with the existing trailer storage that has been going on for many, many years, has encroached deep into those buffers, almost right to the wetlands, some even into the wetlands on some of those areas.  
Speaker 12    01:12:00    So as part of the application to the DEP, we have filed what is called a transition area, waiver redevelopment permit that will allow us to eliminate and lose, get rid of all of that gravel that exists onsite today in those environmentally sensitive areas and restore it with either grass as part of the base or some plants, uh, trees, et cetera, to help the environment and, and bring it back to what it was supposed to be many, many years ago, I have had an opportunity to go through all the staff reports. Uh, and as mentioned earlier, we have no problems with addressing and complying with all the comments in all those staff reports.  
Speaker 6     01:12:40    Thanks, Frank, Adam sheriff, the board members have any questions.  
Speaker 2     01:12:45    Do we have any questions from the board of this witness at this time, Ms. Buckley, would you see if there's any opening it up to the public then would you see if anyone from the public would like to ask a question,  
Speaker 12    01:13:03    Not see anyone, Madam chair,  
Speaker 2     01:13:05    Thank you. Close to the public. And one more time. Do we have any questions of this witness before? Um, we go to the next person. Thank you.  
Speaker 6     01:13:20    Thank you, Matt. I'm sure with your permission, if I may call our architect, he's on the line. I did. Yes, Zach.  
Speaker 2     01:13:30    Thanks.  
Speaker 6     01:13:33    So Madam sheriff, it may have our witnesses, Zach Western.  
Speaker 5     01:13:38    Okay. Mr. Western, can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give me the truth and nothing but the truth? Can you please state and spell your name for the record?  
Speaker 16    01:13:49    Sure. Zach Wester is my last name. W E S T E R.  
Speaker 6     01:14:01    Thank you, Zach. Uh, by whom are you employed?  
Speaker 16    01:14:05    I'm employed by MNH architects.  
Speaker 6     01:14:07    And how long have you been an architect?  
Speaker 16    01:14:10    I've been licensed architect for, uh, five years. And I've been with M and H architects for 10 years.  
Speaker 6     01:14:17    Okay. And are you licensed to the state of New Jersey as an architect? And if you ever appeared before a planning or zoning?  
Speaker 16    01:14:27    Uh, I appeared before the city of bay own planning board. I've not had the pleasure of, of, uh, testifying to the sport.  
Speaker 6     01:14:35    Okay. Give us a bit of benefit of your educational credentials.  
Speaker 16    01:14:39    Sure. Uh, I have a master of architecture from Kansas state university. Um, like I said, I've been practicing architecture for, uh, 10 years. I have, um, I've worked on approximately 15 million square feet of, uh, this type of building in the state of New Jersey, uh, along with, um, 40 million square feet nationally. So  
Speaker 6     01:15:03    Madam chair and a proffer him as an expert in the field of architecture, he will be accepted as an expert in architecture. Thank you, Zach, are you familiar with the application before the board, the steeping And where the architectural plans, the floor plans and the elevations that were submitted with this application where they either done by you or under your direction?  
Speaker 16    01:15:29    Yes, they were.  
Speaker 6     01:15:30    Okay. Now, if you wouldn't mind walk us through and you can share your screen, uh, show us number one, what the finished product, what we're anticipating the building to look like, and also give us an idea of the floor plan of,  
Speaker 16    01:15:43    Okay. Um, I'll start with the, the building elevations, um, and the, the sheet I'm referencing, uh, from the planning board documents was PB deck two. Um, and so the starting the, the, um, the building will be constructed of concrete wall panels. Um, and the page scheme of the building is a, is a two color paint scheme made up of a neutral grays, a light gray color, and a medium gray. Um, and so the wall panels will have, uh, reveals, which will separate paint colors, um, and color will be applied in blocks to help minimize the scale of the building, um, and to provide an aesthetic rhythm as, as you progress down the long elevation. Um, the north elevation as was stated is, is the, the, uh, the elevation that faces the access road, um, where the three office elements will be located. Um, we're at this point proposing, um, uh, glazing and, uh, tend to grade tinted glass at, um, at each of the corner entries and at the center office entry, we are proposing, um, that there'll be knockout panels for the inclusion of glass in the future should attend to choose to occupy the center space.  
Speaker 16    01:17:11    Um, all four elevations of the building, uh, have clear story windows above all of the main doors, um, which allow natural light to enter into the warehouse space. Um, currently the, the office spaces are labeled as future, um, and we'll, we'll be determined, uh, based on, uh, the tenants, uh, operations and occupation of the building. Um, the entry elements will include metal panel, uh, clad canopies, and storefront framing, and glass. And I can go to the next exhibit, which will show a little more in detail of the typical office entry. And this is a planning worksheet, PB dash three.  
Speaker 16    01:18:00    Um, so I'm sorry, just scrolling to sort of the typical office entry. Um, like I said, the glass will be, uh, of, uh, more of a great tent with the canopy that's, uh, over the entry will match the color of the darker gray. Um, the maximum pear pit height of the building is 48 foot three inches, um, to the tallest point of the building. And that occurs on the loading dock sites where the loading docks are four feet below the finished floor. Um, I I'll now move to the, the overall floor plan of the building so we can show you as well, how, how the building will be oriented. And I think, um, uh, Gregory Elman did a nice job of explaining the location of those offices as it relates to the parking and as the loading docks relate to, to the dock areas. And this is, uh, .  
Speaker 16    01:19:07    Um, so as I stated before, the three office entries will occur on the north side and the Northeast side on this chamfered end. And all of the loading docks will be on the south end, uh, roof, as far as rooftop equipment screening is concerned. Um, all of the rooftop equipment will be held back one bay from, uh, the parapet wall at the building perimeter and the height of the building, uh, parapet will effectively screen the rooftop equipment from adjacent roadways. Um, and through the use of 3d modeling software, we're able to, to evaluate and confirm that that the parapets will in fact screen the rooftop equipment from adjacent roadways, uh, as, as it relates to building signage. Um, we're showing it at this stage, we're indicating, um, a building sign that each of the office, however, the actual sign design will be part of a future building, uh, or a future tenant package. Um, and we're not seeking any variation from the ordinance requirements, which are requested. Um, and I believe all of the architectural comments in the review letters have been addressed, uh, in the testimony again, um, if you have any additional questions I would want from that.  
Speaker 6     01:20:33    Sure. Just one final question regarding the, since we don't know who the tenant is going to be, if there's rooftop equipment that's required for, for instance, refrigeration, uh, and that could be in the same way that you've discussed earlier and screened from the public view.  
Speaker 16    01:20:50    That's right. Yes. Yes. So that would be evaluated at the, um, yeah, as the, as the point of the tenant finished, there, there may be some requirements for rooftop equipment as well, and that would also be evaluated, um, at, at the, the inclusion of Lieutenant built out  
Speaker 6     01:21:10    Madam sheriff, the board members have any questions.  
Speaker 2     01:21:15    So the board members have any questions of this witness, Hearing no response. I will now open it to the public respectfully. Do you see any,  
Speaker 1     01:21:26    Can you please unshare your screen? Oh, sure. Yeah. It's just a lot easier for me to see everybody. Yeah. Madam chair, can you just hold on one moment please. Okay. Brian req  
Speaker 11    01:21:51    Concerns done to prevent bird strikes against those windows,  
Speaker 2     01:21:58    Um,  
Speaker 6     01:22:00    That, can you address that? Do you know if there's any bird strike issue that we should have addressed,  
Speaker 16    01:22:06    Um, as it relates to the, the architecture or the trucks, the integrity, or the structural integrity of the windows? Is that  
Speaker 11    01:22:15    No, I was just more concerned about protecting the birds that might see the tinted reflective windows as open area and flying to them.  
Speaker 16    01:22:26    Yeah. I don't know that we've evaluated yet the, the reflectance of the glazing itself, but certainly could look into a glazing that wasn't, um, you know, that, that did not necessarily have a reflective coating to, to try to mitigate that.  
Speaker 11    01:22:42    Okay. Yeah. Especially because it's currently wetlands or wetlands adjacent, so I would be concerned about that. Thanks.  
Speaker 2     01:22:51    Any other questions from any members of the public?  
Speaker 1     01:23:03    I do not see anyone. Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     01:23:05    I thank you. Close to the public for any questions from the public, and I'm sure may call Scott kennel as my final witness. He left. Certainly may  
Speaker 13    01:23:16    Leaving again.  
Speaker 2     01:23:18    Good evening, Mr. Ken scandal. Um, you were previously sworn,  
Speaker 13    01:23:24    I am aware I'm still under oath. Thank you. Yes. As far as this. So I don't need to ask the question. Cause, you know, as far as this site is concerned, uh, w my office prepared a traffic study dated March 2nd, 2021, which was submitted to the board and similar to the other application, the first step was to do, to collect traffic counts. And again, on this site with Don and Ray associates was retained in 2019. So we were able to collect traffic data on the surrounding roadways in October and November of 2019 to reflect pre COVID conditions. Uh, generally speaking, the, the peak hour out in this area occurs from eight to 9:00 AM, and from 4 45 to 5:40 PM. And as part of our data collection program, we collect the traffic counts in the morning and afternoon peak hours at three south Washington avenue intersections, all signalize the first being Centennial avenue, the second being the southbound I 2 87, uh, off ramp. And then the third, which is adjacent to the site frontage is the access road, right adjacent to the main line that is signalized.  
Speaker 13    01:24:49    Once we have our base traffic counts established, we reviewed the site plan. And based on the proposal here for 216,000 square feet of warehouse, the trip generation rates published by the Institute of transportation. Engineers was reviewed. Uh, we use, uh, land use code one 50 warehousing, and as identified in the traffic report submitted, we're projecting approximately 50 trips during the morning peak hour and 55 trips during the afternoon peak hour. Uh, we then assign that traffic to the area roadway network, given the type of use. And again, we don't have tenants known at this time, but it's expected that 80% of the traffic would be oriented to, and from I 2 87 and then 20% of Centennial avenue, uh, given this location, uh, we have great access to Y 2 87, whether it's, um, on Washington, south Washington avenue, or this site also with the access roadway along the north side provides, I'll say a secondary access out to the west, to south Randolph hill road via the road to corporate place.  
Speaker 13    01:26:05    Then to south Randolph hill road. Um, with that taken into consideration, we then evaluated the three signalized intersections that traffic counts were conducted. And it was determined that at south Washington avenue and Centennial avenue, it'll operate a level of service C whether without this developments in the afternoon, that intersection operates a level of service II. But again, with this development that does not change, uh, the overall delay or level of service or remain a level of service, IE, whether without development, I think it's important to also recognize when we conducted our counts, the Ava's facility, it was fully operational. We did not take any credit for that traffic that was already there. So we basically took that as the baseline and surcharge the new, the additional traffic from the warehouse to present a worst case conservative analysis at the, um, south Washington avenue. And I 2 87 off ramp, that'll operate our level of service B with, or without this development for both the am and PM peak hours, the access road, signalized intersection with south Washington avenue and the Nobel to operate a level of service, a will continue to operate a level of service, a where the traffic from, uh, the new warehouse.  
Speaker 13    01:27:33    And then finally at the intersection of the site driveway with Centennial avenue, which will be a riding right out, that'll operate a level of service B uh, for both the morning and afternoon, and therefore operating well within acceptable traffic engineering parameters.  
Speaker 13    01:27:52    Uh, as far as the site is concerned, the site access points will have more than adequate sight distance. So that's traffic movement to and from the site can occur safely and efficiently. The site plan itself has been designed to accommodate not only the passenger vehicles, but the large wheelbase vehicles that'll be on this site to access the loading docks and Wells, the access points. Uh, so in summary, the, the, the development of this site will have a minimal impact on an area roadway networks. It does not affect the levels of service, uh, as compared from no bill to build. And the site plan has been designed to provide positive onsite circulation. Also the parking that's provided meets and exceeds the municipal, uh, requirements. So therefore my opinion, the, this site will have, uh, a minimal will not have a negative impact on the adjacent roadway network and can funk and can function safely. That completes my direct,  
Speaker 6     01:28:56    Thank you, Scott, Madam chair, uh, that would complete the, the testimony from this witness as well.  
Speaker 2     01:29:05    We'll have to open up to the public one last time. I mean, I'll wait, let me get the questions, the board first,  
Speaker 9     01:29:13    Madam chair, Councilwoman Cahill. Um, I'm not sure. Um, if this expert who really answered the question, but it's my understanding on this site, that there is a tie-in to the traffic light, um, am on, uh, south Washington. And that is, uh, the only, uh, well, obviously, because Centennial's one way on the other way, the only way a truck would be able to make a left, is that accurate? And am I speaking to the right expert on that?  
Speaker 13    01:29:42    Yes. I mean, a truck would to get directly to south Washington avenue, they could use the existing traffic signal that is closest to the main line 2 87 and make the left turn on to a south Washington avenue northbound.  
Speaker 9     01:29:59    That is this lot, uh, at that light. Am I accurate and looking at that God. Yeah. Okay. Thank you very much. You're welcome.  
Speaker 2     01:30:15    Any other questions from the board? Okay. Seeing no questions. Um, Ms. Buckley, would you open it to the public? I'm opening it to the public. Would you see if there's anyone who wishes to have any waiting for you? I do not see anyone. Madam chair. Thank you. Close to the public. Any last comments Mr. Apple?  
Speaker 6     01:30:40    Uh, Adam share, just that we have eliminated at least one.  
Speaker 17    01:30:45    I'm sorry. I couldn't get on when you had the thing before.  
Speaker 2     01:30:49    Oh, I apologize. Is this a member of the public? Yes.  
Speaker 17    01:30:53    My name is chase Nikki Jones and my son lives at 3 0 1 near the wood avenue. I live in Bridgewater. I just have one question.  
Speaker 2     01:31:02    Um, wait a minute. I witnessed, you're asking the question of yes.  
Speaker 17    01:31:08    Oh, w w what it would be the whole group. Uh, my one thing is, was a pollution study done on the increase of T I know there's a lot of traffic and everything, but has there ever been done a pollution study to see the increase in pollution and Piscataway because of all these trucks coming on? I know you were saying that the truck can go on Centennial avenue. You would not believe the number of trucks that take Centennial avenue to get to 2 87 south. My question is, has anybody ever done an increase in pollution study of all these trucks that are coming to all these warehouses? I know about all the trucks and the traffic, but what about the pollution for the citizens of Piscataway are their lives going to be affected  
Speaker 6     01:32:01    At a pure if I can answer that  
Speaker 2     01:32:04    I shouldn't have it. If you have a responsible, one of your witnesses may have a response.  
Speaker 6     01:32:09    We conducted all of the required studies and tests, not only as part of the application for the municipality, but also with outside agencies, including engine DP, those have all been submitted as well. There is no pollution test that.  
Speaker 17    01:32:31    Yes, it does, but I want the board to think in future generations, how all of these warehouses and trucks and everything else are going to affect the people of Piscataway. Thank you very much,  
Speaker 2     01:32:48    Ms. Buckley, before we close to the public again, would you check one last time to see if there's anyone else?  
Speaker 17    01:32:53    No one is raising their hands. Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     01:32:56    Thank you.  
Speaker 14    01:32:59    Madam chair. This is mayor Waller. I just want to address the comment from the lady from Bridgewater, just as an aside note, for more than 60 years, the entire Centennial avenue Carter has been light industrial slash office zoned, even with the new economy changing in our, on our township in this area, not just in Piscataway, but along the entire length of 2 87 Carter, it has been a less of an impact on our community. Um, a lot of the sites, uh, along Centennial avenue and south far avenue area had triple the amount of traffic out there when I was growing up as a kid. And two file file say that this is being, uh, demonstrably negative on our communities is absolutely not the case, because anybody who knows how logistics in, uh, D industry is working now, they don't have all these trucks or people stacking up all over the place.  
Speaker 14    01:33:59    Third, third, timely deliveries. Now, no different than if somebody goes in order something on Amazon or some company and gets delivered. Um, you know, that's just parroting what some of the people that who've run for political office in this town are pitching to the general public here. I mean, I realize not everything's perfect in a state of New Jersey, but short of us condemning all the property along Centennial avenue and telling people they can't build. There is no other solution to that. Um, so, uh, you know, th these folks here are following the DEP guidelines. Um, as far as the air quality issue, the entire state of New Jersey is a non-attainment area. And that is because of all the pollution of power plants that come from the Midwest that drift over over the state of New Jersey, the entire state is. So to say that one application is creating the entire problem. And the entire township is, is not, is not correct. I mean, when you have the entire state and that thing. So I just want to add that comment in Madam chair, because this seems to be an ongoing parroting political ploy out there. I'm not saying from the lady that just said that, but, um, we've, we've heard that a common argument made on a couple other applications around the town. Thank you, Madam chair,  
Speaker 1     01:35:23    Excuse me. Madam chair. Somebody to raise their hand as the mayor started,  
Speaker 14    01:35:29    The public portion is closed. So on the application  
Speaker 2     01:35:36    Arbonne was summing up, I believe. Yes. Go ahead, Mr. Bathum. I can't hear you. You muted. Thank you.  
Speaker 6     01:35:55    Uh, I was disconnected and had to reconnect that I've muted me again. I apologize, uh, is that indicated the application is a conforming use application with two deviations that were originally noticed. One of them was for the number of electric vehicle charging stations that required an ordinance. We're not seeking a deviation for that anymore longer. The second is a design standard deviation because of the height of the fence as testified to chemistry, Roman, that is necessitated essentially because of the conditions on the property and the placement of the fence of top of the retaining wall. So it would be technical deviation. We had asked that the application you looked at favorably, um, and if the board members have any additional questions we're hearing,  
Speaker 2     01:36:43    Thank you. Um, it's up to the board to present emotion or make comments, whichever Does anyone on the board want to make a motion to approve this application?  
Speaker 10    01:37:08    Uh, Reverend Kenny, uh, I'd like to make a motion, uh, that this, uh, uh, be granted this application to be granted, uh, providing that they meet all the specifications and all the reports that were hit. Yes.  
Speaker 2     01:37:31    Okay. Do I get a second? Thank you, Madam secretary, would you please call the roll  
Speaker 1     01:37:45    Marijuana? Yes. Councilman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenny. Yes. Mr. Espinosa. Yeah. Oh, there he is. And  
Speaker 2     01:38:05    Yes. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you. Our last item on our agenda for this evening is item number 14, a discussion zoning ordinance, supplemental landscape standards.  
Speaker 8     01:38:26    Madam chair. This is John Corcoran. Do you want me to just give an overview of what this ordinance is? Um, so basically any property along the stele and, um, avenue corridor that's zoned business professional, um, has to meet these landscape standards when they abut a residential zone. Um, our landscape architect, um, worked with the attorney to come up with these standard. Um, this was sent down to the planning work on council. So, um, we just have to take a look at these and, um, you know, if we agree with them, we would send them back to council for final reading, second reading,  
Speaker 2     01:39:07    As everyone on the board and an opportunity to look at them and willing to have the adjustments made, or have no problem with them.  
Speaker 9     01:39:18    Madam chair, council, and McHale, and because this had become, uh, had come before the council, um, I just want to, uh, make the, the board where that these are, um, you know, additional requirements for our businesses. This is to, um, ensure, um, that there is enough buffer to increase buffer, to, um, try to, um, as much as possible where residents are butted up against the businesses to have, uh, additional, uh, buffering, um, certain restrictions or height, you know, on a fence to, to hide, um, potentially the business. So, you know, just overall, if you've looked at it and you can look at it quickly, you can see that, uh, this is an increase and, and also some additional, um, restrictions on lighting.  
Speaker 2     01:40:19    Um, if we hear no comments, I'm, I'm assuming that the lack of a comment means that you have no objection to these additional standards. Is that, would that be correct? Board members?  
Speaker 8     01:40:32    Yes. Yes. Correct.  
Speaker 2     01:40:36    Thank you. Then can we  
Speaker 3     01:40:38    Open it to the public if they have any comments on the supplemental landscape standards before you have emotion matters?  
Speaker 2     01:40:45    Sure. Okay. Open to the, this is open to the public comment, right? I'm still here at  
Speaker 11    01:40:53    Bryan rack. Um, I, I live around the corner from this and I was looking at the zoning map and I'm kind of confused because a lot of what's zoned is business professional. One that appears to be residential houses. Is this going to affect their ability to say, add an addition or something? It's very confusing because definitely a lot of the BP one area right around the corner from me is all residential houses.  
Speaker 2     01:41:19    Ms. Kay hill. Do you have any response to that?  
Speaker 9     01:41:24    Um,  
Speaker 14    01:41:27    If I, if I make CA Madam president and I'll handle that, this is for the buffering of businesses that are adjacent to residential homes, any homeowner that wants to come in for an addition, they, their, their application has to fall on the merits of that property, correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Barlow,  
Speaker 3     01:41:49    No, you're absolutely. This is just dealing with businesses so that the, any residential homes that may be in the area, it requires things like a six foot high fence planting beds, extra evergreen conifers, at least eight to 10 feet in height, additional shrubs, so that the residential homes, um, have as much protection and privacy as possible from, uh, any businesses in the BP one zone. It would not deal with, you know, a single family home who is putting on an addition. And, and all of a sudden has to put in a row of 10 foot high trumps.  
Speaker 11    01:42:28    Oh, so this doesn't apply to the row of houses that are in BP, one between Charles Terrance and Hanes.  
Speaker 3     01:42:35    It's not, that's not your you're overthinking what it's re this is in response to residents wanting privacy from businesses, not homeowners having to provide privacy to other homeowners. Right?  
Speaker 11    01:42:51    No, I understand. I'm just confused because it looks like a lot of residential. There's like eight or 10 residential houses that are in that BP one area that I just mentioned. I mean, maybe the Pascal, maybe the town's zoning map is incorrect, but I'm not sure  
Speaker 3     01:43:06    Y the zoning's changed over time. If a house was built a hundred years ago and it now is in the BP one zone. Um, but again, it's an, it, it's only how homes that have the frontage on Stilton road and abut a residentially zoned lot to the rear of it. I mean, it's very specific in terms of the businesses that affects obviously like maximum height of parking light fixtures. No residential home is, it has a, has a parking lot with lights in it. So maybe,  
Speaker 9     01:43:37    And Mr. Mr. Barlow, if I could just interject quickly to, just, to, to speak to Mr. X point about residents coming in for applications, those residents would have to more than likely have to go before a board. If they were looking to put an addition on a house, if there were any kind of variances required. And that, that this is a part from that, this is, this does not indicate any further restrictions on those folks.  
Speaker 3     01:44:12    Absolutely correct. Okay. Thanks.  
Speaker 2     01:44:17    Okay. Any other questions from the public before I close it?  
Speaker 1     01:44:25    I do not see anyone. Madam  
Speaker 2     01:44:27    Chair. It is now closed to the public so that if we have no objections  
Speaker 1     01:44:38    That we need to make a motion,  
Speaker 2     01:44:41    I need a motion from the board that we don't have any objections to  
Speaker 3     01:44:46    Proposed amendment,  
Speaker 2     01:44:48    This proposed amendment to,  
Speaker 9     01:44:54    Okay.  
Speaker 2     01:44:55    I have a second from the board. I'll second that, thank you. Maybe have roll call Ms. Buckley marijuana.  
Speaker 1     01:45:04    Yes. Council woman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenney. Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     01:45:18    Yes. Thank you. May I have a motion to pay the bills for  
Speaker 3     01:45:23    Madam chair? We also have a resolution though, that we  
Speaker 2     01:45:28    Oh, okay.  
Speaker 3     01:45:31    So there's a resolution that was prepared with regards to it. It just needs to be a motion to adopt the resolution that was provided.  
Speaker 2     01:45:40    May I have a motion from the board to adopt the resolution? Second  
Speaker 9     01:45:51    Terrell Saunders  
Speaker 2     01:45:53    Broke off period.  
Speaker 1     01:45:56    Yes. Council woman. Kay hill. Yeah. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. The Saunders. Yes. Berberine canny. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     01:46:09    Yes. Mr. .  
Speaker 1     01:46:12    Mr. Foster is an alternate and I don't need them to vote.  
Speaker 2     01:46:23    How about emotion to pay bills?  
Speaker 9     01:46:27    I make a motion that we paid the bills. California's second Councilman Cahill.  
Speaker 2     01:46:33    Cool.  
Speaker 1     01:46:36    Yes. Yeah. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. The Saunders. Yes. Reverend canny. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair.  
Speaker 2     01:46:49    Yeah, we don't have to, we can stay a little longer now, Mr. Foster, this is all you. We closed the meeting. Carol Saunders, no opposition closed in favor. 


	

Minutes for Piscataway Planning meeting on April 14 2021