Transcript for Piscataway Planning meeting on November 10 2021
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Speaker 1 00:00:17 Recording in progress. Thank you, Madam chair. It is seven 30. Speaker 2 00:00:24 Thank you. The Piscataway township planning board meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the courier news notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal building notice made available to the township clerk. Notice into the courier news and Star-Ledger notice made, posted in a public library. Mr. Barlow, would you give the open public meeting notice please? Speaker 3 00:00:55 Yes. Madam chair, pursuant to the department of community affairs guidelines. This meeting is being held virtually on the zoom platform, um, because of the COVID-19 pandemic, the appropriate, uh, zoom login information has been disseminated as part of the agenda and the applications that are pending. And it's appropriate to go ahead in a virtual setting. Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:01:19 Thank you. Well, the clerk, please call the roll. Speaker 1 00:01:26 Uh, Councilman Cahill, Ms. Corcoran here, Ms. Saunders here, Reverend Kenny, Mr. Espinosa is coming. He's running a little late, Mr. Foster, Madam chair here. Speaker 2 00:01:44 Um, there's a flag over my right shoulder would be. Can we please recite the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with Liberty. And Thank you. Um, Ms. Saunders, would you swear in the professionals? Speaker 4 00:02:16 Yes. Can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth? Speaker 1 00:02:28 Thank Speaker 4 00:02:28 You, Speaker 2 00:02:30 Mr. Borrower, when can you note any changes or amendments to the agenda for Jeanette? Speaker 3 00:02:34 Yes, ma'am chair number nine. The Yates subdivision is postpone until the December 8th meeting, not night, December 8th meeting. Um, no further notices will be sent if you're here for the Yates, uh, P 20 PB oh six matter. That will be heard if the December 8th meeting. Speaker 2 00:02:54 Thank you. Okay. Um, item number seven, adoption resolution to memorialize action taken on October 13th, 2021. I believe there is a resolution. Okay. Item number eight, adoption of the minutes from the regular meeting of October 13, Speaker 4 00:03:14 Madam chairman. I'd like to memorialize the meetings the minutes from the regular meeting of October 13th, um, 2021. Speaker 2 00:03:29 Thank you. Roll call. Speaker 1 00:03:31 Marijuana council, woman. K help. Ms. Cochran. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes, Reverend Kenny and Madam chair Speaker 2 00:03:46 Item number nine has been adjourned. So we'll proceed to item number 10, which is 21 PB oh nine slash 10 V as in Victor, Paul RO Rowan Ramon preliminary and final site plan meeting. Speaker 3 00:04:07 I didn't mean to interrupt. There's actually two number nines before the rebel. One matter. There's the discussion and adoption of the 2022 meeting Speaker 2 00:04:16 Calendar. You're correct. I'm sorry. I know Speaker 3 00:04:19 There's two nines. I understand. Speaker 1 00:04:21 Yeah. I switched stuff around quickly this morning. I forgot. Sorry. Number nine. Speaker 2 00:04:30 I believe we've all received a copy of the draft of the calendar for 2020. Is there any notations or adjustments to be made to the calendar? Would you look at it for a moment hearing no amendments. Can I get a motion to accept this as the official calendar, make that motion? Is Speaker 4 00:05:01 There a second? Speaker 2 00:05:05 Thank you. Roll call please. Speaker 1 00:05:09 Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Yes. Reverend Kenny and Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:05:17 Yes. Now the real item number 10. Okay. That's going to be fall 21, PB nine slash 10 V as in Victor and Mr. Erickson. I thought it was appearing for Speaker 5 00:05:40 Adam chair arm. And I told her on behalf of the applicant Paul ribbon, uh, I want to first get rid of the housekeeping matters if I can inquire bear of the, uh, council, whether, uh, the board does in fact have jurisdiction notices of proper I'll note that we, uh, originally noticed for the July 14th meeting. And we've been carried by oral notice to those in attendance for the last three meetings. But if all others, uh, uh, is an order would ask that the board recognizes its jurisdiction over the application. Speaker 3 00:06:13 The board has jurisdiction. You may continue. Speaker 5 00:06:16 And the, I confirmed with the board secretary, but just want to, once again, put on the record that I have five reports that will be providing testimony about thickening are based upon Ms. Corcoran's, April 26th, 2021, uh, memo, uh, far Marshall gore is April 30th, 2021 conclusion. Also, Mr. Gooseberries, February 18th, 2021, a letter, um, Mr. Interesting's May 24th, 2021 memorandum. And finally, Mr. Gottlieb's, uh, May 24th, 2021 report, uh, based on those reports, let me give a very brief overview. Uh, the application is, uh, in regards to 1 45 11th street in Piscataway and on February the 25th, we appeared before the zoning board and received temporary use permit to allow my client to move a tenant. And that tenant being extreme supplies east coast in from its current its previous location at 1 78 10th street into this location, 1 45 for a period of six months. So we're just a little bit past that six months that we're nine months in and extreme has been at that location with its three employees. Speaker 5 00:07:31 What they do is they supply goods and services associated with disaster relief. Uh, one of the many beneficiaries of having a disaster relief supply company right here in our backyard was our own police department, uh, during the height of the COVID, uh, and the difficulties in getting supplies, uh, extreme provided the police department with several gallons of hand sanitizer for him, for example, very difficult commodity to get, but we're lucky to have that sort of a business in close proximity to the township, especially having now everyone lived through a disaster, which we only could think of hypothetically prior to now. Um, as I said, we've been operating or at least extreme has been operated operating. That's the tenant, not the owner of the property. Who's my applicant. Uh, they've been operating there without any incident for the last nine months. And as I said earlier, they have three employees. Speaker 5 00:08:23 Deliveries coming in, in and out. The use itself is a permitted use. Um, and based on that temporary use permit, we're seeking now to get site plan and variance approval it's evening. There are four existing variances, two of which were not changing whatsoever because they are with regardless of minimum four area, it's an existing building, which only has 7,249 square feet. We're not proposing any changes and we're required to have 10,000 square feet, minimum Florida area. Bonnie is set back for front yard. It's currently a 28.7 feet should be 50 feet under the ordinance. And when I proposed a change, there are two variances regarding parking. One is that we're required to have 15 parking spaces and that those parking spaces, uh, be paved, parking and striped parking spaces were going to pave and Stripe parking spaces, but all are have our engineer testifies. The number of spaces we'd like to put in at this time with the board's permission. Speaker 5 00:09:20 Um, we've, as I said, received those reports, um, and Mr.reports has a number of conditions. Uh, let me start off by saying, we will comply with those conditions. We've had discussions with the township. We will be entering into a developer's agreement and the improvements on the site will be made pursuant to a schedule that will be outlined in that developer's agreement. Um, Madam chair, as I said earlier, we have witnesses this evening. I have two witnesses that I'd like to call to testify, Mr. Scott Turner, who is our engineer with Menlo engineering and Colleen McGurk, who was a professional planner to provide planning testimony in case the board needs to hear more. I have two witnesses on standby. Uh, they're here Mr. Uh, Barbara Bohn, who is, uh, if you're a Brady bunch fan, he is, uh, where Alison's, um, and, uh, Matt Jenks, who was with, um, extreme supply, uh, who can provide the testimony if you wish to hear about the ongoing operations at that location. And Adam share with your permission. If I may call Scott Turner, our Speaker 6 00:10:22 Engineer, you may proceed. Speaker 5 00:10:26 Thank you, Mr. Turner, if you can turn on your camera, Speaker 6 00:10:29 It's Speaker 5 00:10:29 On. Okay. And, uh, Madam chair, if we can have them sworn in Speaker 4 00:10:37 The Turner, can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony about to give you the truth and nothing but the truth? Thank you, please state and spell your name for the record. Speaker 6 00:10:49 Uh, my name is Scott Turner, T as in Tom, U R N E R. Speaker 5 00:10:55 And Scott, you're a professional engineer employed with Menlo engineering. Is that correct? Speaker 6 00:10:59 That is correct. Yes. Speaker 5 00:11:01 They're in New Jersey. Speaker 6 00:11:02 Yes. And then I provided testimony in front of this board many times as a licensed professional engineer. Speaker 5 00:11:09 Great. Have your credentials changed in any way since the last time that you appeared before this board? Speaker 6 00:11:13 No. In my license is still in good standing in the state of New Jersey. Speaker 5 00:11:19 Madam chair, if the board would recognize Mr. Turner is an expert in the field of civil engineering. Speaker 6 00:11:24 Yes, it will. The chair will send too. Thank you. Madam chair, Speaker 5 00:11:29 Got I sort of, uh, stumbled and bumbled through my opening remarks. Uh, is there anything that you can pick out that I said that was inaccurate? Speaker 6 00:11:35 No. Um, and if, if you don't mind, I'd like to just share a, uh, my screen. I do have an exhibit. We'll just go through that very quickly. If you'd like me to do that. Yes, please proceed. Mr. Turner, is this an exhibit you prepared for this evening or is this part of the plan? This is an exhibit that I prepared for this evening. Okay. So we'll just call that a one, right? This will be an exhibit, a one. Uh, we can, uh, it up where this date, November 10th, 2021. It is an exhibit that was prepared by my office and titled 1 45 11th street site plan exhibit. Uh, the exhibit was prepared back on July 14th, 2021, uh, in the exhibit is, uh, an exhibit of the, uh, existing, uh, site with the proposed site improvements overlaid on top of an existing, uh, aerial image, uh, from being, uh, the, uh, the exhibit is a directional north is straight up, uh, one 40, uh, I'm sorry. Speaker 6 00:12:41 11th street is parallel with the bottom of the sheet closest to the bottom of the plan itself. Uh, Adrian avenue is on the left-hand side or the westerly side of the property. 10th street is on the north side or at the top of the sheet again, running parallel with the exhibit map itself, uh, for the record very quickly, the property is, uh, specifically known as block eight, 11 lot 1.01. It does contain 1.09 acres. It does have frontage on, uh, three separate, uh, municipal roadways, 11th street, Adrian avenue, and 10th street. Uh, it is surrounded on the north side, which is at the top of the sheet and the westerly side to the left with a single family. Residential uses on there are commercial and industrial uses located to the south of the property as well as immediately adjacent and further away to the east of the property is located in a light industrial zoning district. Speaker 6 00:13:48 And the use in front of you is a permitted use within that district. The property does contain an existing building, 7,249 square feet in size. It is one story. It is a commercial building. It has a primary frontage, uh, facing 11th street. Uh, the building itself as, uh, for existing overhead doors. There were two located on the south side, along 11th street. There's one on the north side facing 10th street. And there's one on the west side facing Adrian avenue. Uh, there's also a compacted gravel parking lot. That's located in the Southeast corner of the property. There's an existing paved driveway. That's on the westerly side of the property. It's immediately adjacent to the existing building that comes up towards the, to the rear of the building facing 10th street. And then, you know, sort of hugs the, uh, what I'll call the back of the building along street as well. Speaker 6 00:14:52 And that is a paved existing driveway. Uh, there was an open lawn area, as you can see on the exhibit, uh, between that driveway and Adrian avenue. And then there's a compacted gravel service area. That's located at the rear of the building with access from, uh, 10th street, uh, at the Northeast corner of the property, uh, near west 10th street. There is a fenced in, um, uh, storage, uh, area that has a chain link fence at six feet high. The fencing has privacy slats, and there's a portion of that fencing that also has a solid, uh, windscreen along the, uh, easterly portion of the fenced in area, which is the long, this most easterly property line. And then along the rear, that fenced in area as well, uh, within that fenced in area, again, that is a storage area, a storage yard, uh, inside that storage yard, uh, is also located a dumpster and a recycling bin, which will remain on the property for use by the new tenant. Speaker 6 00:16:03 Uh, as Mr. Ipol pointed out, we are here seeking a site plan approval from, from the folks for a site plan approval, as well as the variance is needed for the tenant. That's currently on site to permanently occupy the building. Um, once again, there was a permitted use in the zone, and it is a known as extreme supplies, uh, which is a flood and fire restoration, uh, service area. So the site improvements on the site plan itself based on what we submitted to the board, uh, is, uh, is relatively minor, uh, what we're showing on the site plan, other than the existing condition, which will primarily remain as its existing condition, uh, for a certain time period. Uh, the, the applicant would like to have the ability to, uh, include the storage of seven emergency response trailers. And I'll, I'll zoom in a little bit more so you can see where that is or the too far. Speaker 6 00:17:12 Okay. So the seven emergency response trailers are shown in this pan, uh, color here. Uh, there are, uh, three trailers that are eight foot by 16 foot in length. One of them will be a eight foot wide by 20 foot in length that we two at eight foot by 26 feet and one larger trailer, uh, which will be eight feet wide by 53 feet in length. And you can see how they are located on this property. Uh, and within this storage area, there is more than ample space for those trailers to fit, uh, within, uh, the space that's, uh, you know, located in, has been used for a storage in the past. Uh, in addition to that, uh, we are providing 11 arborvitae evergreen trees that are located along 10th street, uh, at the Northwest corner to provide some additional screening from the residence, uh, to the, to the north. Speaker 6 00:18:07 Um, those are the proposed site improvements that are shown on the site plans as, uh, submitted to the board. Uh, we do have review letters, uh, that had, um, a number of improvements that, uh, were requested by the applicant to be installed on the property. And we do agree to install those site improvements, uh, and in accordance with the terms and conditions that are set forth within the developer's agreement. Um, the variances as, uh, pointed out, uh, we have a, uh, two existing nonconformities. We have a front yard setback, a non-conformity, uh, for 28.7 feet from 11th street, where 50 feet is required. We have a minimum floor area, uh, requirement of 10,000 square feet, the existing building, a 7,249 square feet, both of our existing nonconformities. Uh, we also have a, uh, proposed variance from section 21, 11 0 1 0.3, uh, which is, uh, parking passageways and driveways and loading areas all required to be paid, um, in the interim, uh, we are seeking your approval to permit them, to remain unpaved, uh, and, uh, again, they will wind up being paved and curbed in accordance with the developer's agreement within the time period set forth in that agreement. Speaker 6 00:19:33 Uh, the applicant has three employees and total, uh, there's more than ample space within the paved areas that are currently on, on property. Uh, specifically on the westerly side of the building here, you can see, for example, the car that's sitting for for context and scale, there's more than ample space for three vehicles to be parked all street on the property safely within that paved driveway. Uh, uh, the, the other variants that we are seeking tonight is for, uh, the number of parking spaces, uh, based on the parking demand. If you were to use a warehouse, a parking ratio of one per 500 square, one space per 500 square feet, uh, the building would require 15 parking spaces, and that building is primarily a warehouse building. Uh, there may be a small, uh, you know, office space that's, you know, utilized in support of the warehouse and, uh, the, and the business itself, but it's primarily warehousing, uh, and we'll provide those calculations to the, uh, to the board as well. Speaker 6 00:20:37 Uh, but in any event, we are seeking a variance, uh, to permit us to parking spaces on the property, as opposed to the 15 that are required by ordinance. And those six parking spaces will include a one electrical vehicle charging, uh, station, uh, which is required by, uh, your ordinance section 21 dash 11 0 3, uh, as well as it being required by state statute. So there will be six parking spaces and total one of which will include an EBV charting station. And again, they will be built in accordance with the terms of the developer's agreement. Uh, so, uh, we, we will need a variance for the number of parking spaces. Uh, we do not require a variance that was listed, um, for the electric car charging station, where one is required. We do agree to have one installed in accordance with that agreement. Uh, there were some waivers cited as well with the application. Speaker 6 00:21:42 One of which was from 21 dash 1102, uh, loading berth, uh, dimensions. The, um, the standard or requirement is 12 foot by 50 foot in depth. Uh, there was no dimensions of loading spaces on the plan. We will provide that dimension on the plan, and, uh, we, uh, we'll comply with that minimum, uh, dimensional standard. Uh, the loading space for the property is located on the north side of the building. And you can kind of see the existing concrete pad where my cursor is circling here, uh, facing, uh, 10th street, uh, that existing concrete pad is, uh, 20 feet in width. Currently it is 30 feet long beyond that 30 foot length is this compacted gravel area, but we can very easily make a wall of that comply so that we have the minimum dimensional standards that are needed so that we no longer require that waiver. Speaker 6 00:22:35 We leave, uh, 24 dash 7 0 2 0.1 parking space dimensions nine by 18 are required. Uh, we will comply with that. Uh, I'll leave it up to the planner to provide, um, the, uh, the testimony in regards to, um, what's needed now versus what will be installed, um, as part of the agreement. Uh, so, you know, right now, based on the fact that we are, um, looking to utilize the existing, uh, paved areas and existing site conditions for parking, um, you know, the waiver may be technically needed for, uh, for the immediate use, but, uh, in the future, uh, we will agree to comply in all. Parking will be at the dimensional standard of nine by 18, uh, maximum driveway width. As the last waiver, we are seeking 24 dash 700, 2.1. Um, maximum driveway with in accordance with town standards is 35 feet. Uh, if you were to look up at 10th street and you can see there is a large existing opening, uh, that accesses the rear service, a yard, uh, that dimensional state is that dimension is currently at set at 90 feet existing. Speaker 6 00:23:52 Uh, we are seeking a waiver to allow us to maintain that 90 foot with, uh, it is important for, uh, maneuverability of, uh, the tractor trailer deliveries that do come into the site occasionally, uh, to be able to get off at 10th street, which is a, uh, you know, municipal roadway and utilize that curb opening to negotiate and back themselves up into that loading space. Uh, it's an existing condition. Uh, we'd like to be able to maintain that condition, uh, in order to provide for safe movements, uh, walk of the, uh, public right of way, uh, beyond that, uh, again, the applicant is, uh, the application is subject to that developer's agreement, uh, which we will agree to comply with all their standards and conditions. We have, uh, Stafford courts as, as well, uh, that are, have been reviewed by my office. Uh, one in particular is the planning. Uh, well, let's go through this, if there's any questions that are, you know, in regards to my testimony, or would you like me to go through the reports? Speaker 2 00:25:02 What do you prefer? Um, Marvin, Speaker 5 00:25:07 I'm sorry. I was on mute. So, uh, why don't we, uh, first go through the reports if the board members didn't have any questions at the end now, with regards to the, uh, Mr. memo, you've already indicated we'll comply with what's required there. And we do in fact, have our county, uh, letter of no interest already provided, is that correct? Correct. Okay. With regards to the CME report, is there any condition that you see there that we can not comply with and beyond that, if there's any area of testimony that's required, uh, if you want to just fill in what you haven't already testified to, Speaker 6 00:25:42 Um, you know, the, the planning, uh, report, uh, that's dated May 24th, 2021 from CME associates. Uh, many of those items in there are regarding planning testimony, which will be provided after I am finished. All of the other specific planning comments that are listed on page seven. Uh, we will agree and page eight, continuing on page eight, uh, we do agree to comply with, in accordance with the, uh, with the agreements in place. Speaker 5 00:26:12 Thank you, Madam chair, if the board members have any questions for Mr. Turner, Speaker 2 00:26:18 Okay. Board members, um, does anyone on the board have any questions of this witness as to his testimony hearing no feedback? Um, can we open it to the public and see if there's any comments or questions from the public place? Ms. Buckley, Speaker 1 00:26:43 I'm looking, it's hard with the screen of Speaker 5 00:26:47 God. You want to take us off? Speaker 1 00:26:49 I could scroll. I do not see anyone raising their hands. Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:26:55 Okay. Thank you. Then it's close to the BubbleQ Mr. Um, I thought you can proceed through your next witness then. Speaker 5 00:27:03 Thank you. If I may call Coleen McGurk Mr. McGuirk is our planner. Speaker 4 00:27:10 Mr. McGuirk, can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give us the truth and nothing but the Speaker 7 00:27:16 Truth? Yes, I do. Can you please Speaker 4 00:27:19 State and spell your name for Speaker 7 00:27:21 Coleen McGurk C O L L E N M C G or K. Speaker 4 00:27:26 Thank you. Speaker 5 00:27:28 Um, you've been before this board, a number of occasions, actually on one occasion, I believe it was an expert in the area of planning. Is that correct? Yes. And you've also appeared before the zoning board on this very application, if I'm not mistaken, is that correct? Okay. So, uh, you have appeared before other boards as an expert in the field of planning and you're licensed here in the state of New Jersey, is that correct? Speaker 7 00:27:50 Yes. My license is current and I am a member of AICP, and I have appeared before, uh, multiple townships, including Bedminster old bridge ship, bottom Woodbridge and Edison. Speaker 2 00:28:03 Thank you, Ms. McGuirk. You may proceed. Speaker 5 00:28:05 Thank you, Ms. McGuirk. You've heard the testimony of, uh, our civil engineer, Mr. Turner. You also reviewed the application, made some site visits and had some long discussions with both Mr. Bone and seen the operations of extreme at that location. Have you not? Yes, I have. And based on your review of both the site and the miscellaneous law, and comparing that to the ordinance of the township of Castaway, there are four variances that we are seeking, uh, that we've noticed for, if you can please provide us the planning justifications for the board, granting the parking variance that we're seeking and how the other variances can be granted, uh, under the municipal land use law. Speaker 7 00:28:49 Yes, I can. Thank you. Uh, okay. So the property is zoned light industrial, and the ordinance permits the proposed warehouse use for the disaster rental equipment. In order to justify the variances requested both relief can be granted based upon C1 and C2 analysis. The see one, I knew this would happen. Please take Willie out of the room. Um, the C1 analysis deals with hardships related to the property, the physical aspects of the site, the C2 is a weighing test. Do the benefits outweigh the detriments. The proposed bulk relief can be granted based upon C1 hardships pertaining to this specific property and C2 analysis. Since the proposed variances advanced the purposes of the UL and the benefits of granting of those variances outweigh any detriment that result from their approval. Speaker 7 00:29:44 The C1 hardship in relation to this property is that three sides of the lot have street frontage. So there is a 50 foot required setback on 10th street, 11th street and Adrian avenue, which reduces the usable area of the lot. Significantly. The applicant is seeking a variance for the front yard setback along 11th street. And this is an existing condition. It is also an odd shape block, which presents a hardship. These two hardships justify the variances to the existing front yard setback, and also for the undersides first floor of the building, which limits the buildable area, the C2 analysis. It advances several purposes of the Moul purpose, a to encourage municipal action to guide the appropriate use for development of all lands in the state and a manner which will promote the public health, safety, morals, and general welfare. We know that the property is located in the L I a light industrial zoning district and is a permitted use. Speaker 7 00:30:39 And the surrounding area consists of similar uses to the south and the west its current layout and improvements will remain the same with the exception of the seven trailers. The applicant has proposed 11 large arborvitae to buffer the residents view of the new trailers. The applicant has also agreed to install sidewalks, curving lighting, and a paved parking lot as per the developer's agreement. So these improvements will provide a benefit to the surrounding area purpose G to provide sufficient space and appropriate locations for a variety of agriculture, residential recreation, commercial, and industrial uses, and open space, both public and private, according to their respective environmental requirements in order to meet the needs of all New Jersey citizens. This business is proposing to utilize what was a vacant portion of the building left vacant by the previous business, due to the pandemic on an existing developed lot and provide equipment to aid in the recovery of natural disasters, including the current pandemic. Speaker 7 00:31:37 Therefore, the granting of the variances for the existing nonconformities would provide suspicious sufficient space for an industrial use that would meet the needs of the local and regional population purpose and to encourage coordination of the various public and private procedures and activities shaping the land development with a view of lessening, the cost of such development and to the more efficient use of the land in light of the pandemic, I believe the township should approve this application and allow it to continue in its present use with the existing tenant. The business was vacant for several months due to the pandemic and a vacancy can affect the surrounding businesses. Also required improvements will not mitigate any negative impacts since this business has been in operation for a long time and there appear to be no negative impacts. And the proposed business will have a positive impact on the area by providing necessary services. Speaker 7 00:32:30 It is my professional opinion that the granting of these variances will not result in a substantial detriment to the public. Good and will not substantially impair the intent and purpose of the master plan or the zone plan. This is an existing business. The building size and intensity of youth will remain the same. In fact, the intensity of the youth seems to be less than the previous use. The only proposed change is that of the trailers which any negative impact as far as visibility of the trailers would be mitigated by the proposed landscaping. In addition, the developer's agreement will eliminate the paved parking lot bearings and all of the design waivers, the benefits of this development outweigh any of the detriments. Speaker 5 00:33:09 Thank you, miss. Uh, I'm sorry. Madam sheriff, the board members have any questions for our planner, Speaker 2 00:33:16 Um, open to the board for any questions of this witness. Speaker 8 00:33:20 Yeah. Uh, Madam chair, Reverend Kenny, this trailer, uh, being used for a temporary, uh, temporarily on the premises while they, um, uh, we, uh, construct this building and the work that's being done there is that what that trailer is for? Speaker 5 00:33:39 No, and I can have, uh, our engineer opine on that, but, uh, Reverend Kenny, these are being permanently located there. The supplies that'll be inside of them will be temporary, but their supplies, emergency supplies that are brought in and go out on a fairly frequent basis. So there'll be used for, Speaker 8 00:34:00 I see that except for storage, for supplies in the manufacturing of the products there. I understand. Okay. Thank you, Speaker 3 00:34:17 Madam chair. This is Dennis. I just want it to stand that I'm on the clock. Speaker 2 00:34:22 Okay. Thank you, Dennis. We have you noted. Thank you. Any other, um, did we open it to the public for this witness? Okay. Uh, let's open it to the public since the board. Hasn't got any additional questions. Speaker 9 00:34:39 No one Madam chair. Yeah, I do. I have some hideaway. Okay. Um, I'm that lady? Hello? Speaker 2 00:34:50 Hello. Can you state your name and your address Speaker 9 00:34:52 Please? My name is Teresa Nikki Jones, and I lived at, um, 1 21 bond street in Bridgewater. I just have one question, this precedent of setting of variance. So there's not a 50 foot buffer zone. Is that going to be about, I should have said, is that going to be a precedent for other companies with this 50 foot? Is that, that's the only thing I worry about Speaker 3 00:35:16 Ms. Smith, I think isle or chairwoman said, Speaker 2 00:35:20 I appreciate you and Mr. Barlow and you responding to that. Speaker 3 00:35:22 Thank you, Ms. Jones, it doesn't set any precedent. It's only for this application. Anybody else that comes before this board has to present the appropriate proofs, um, to the satisfaction of both the municipal land use law and to this board satisfaction in order to grant the variance. So it's not, if it's granted with one particular application, that means that nobody else has to ask for it. Anybody that needs any variance has to come before the board and present the appropriate proofs in order to grant whatever relief they're seeking, if it's a 50 foot setback or any other barriers. So every case is a case. Every application is a case by case. Okay. Speaker 9 00:36:06 Okay. Cause I was just worried that they put setback is very important and the town. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. You're Speaker 3 00:36:13 Welcome. Speaker 2 00:36:15 Uh, any other people in the public who had the questions of this witness? Speaker 1 00:36:21 No one raised their hand. Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:36:23 Thank you. Close to the public. Okay. Mr. Athol, do you have any, Speaker 5 00:36:28 Thank you. I'm sure I have no other witnesses unless the board would like to hear from me more or Mr. here as well. And we also have someone from extreme supply, but that I believe gives the board a fair picture. Um, an accurate picture as well of not only the operations moved there from just down the street. Uh, but also the granting of the variance. As we indicated through our testimony, we will be complying, uh, with all of the requirements pursuant to the developer's agreement. We are asking that the parking variance, however, from the 15 spaces to the six that we're asking to be provided on the space, be granted this evening, otherwise all of those other, uh, conditions that are outlined in the staff reports and the professionals reports, uh, will be addressed in developer's agreement. We'll be making the necessary improvements on the schedule, agreed to with the municipality. Speaker 2 00:37:22 Thank you. And Ms. Cochran, you though, do you have any comments? I do not. They addressed all the items in our report. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Uh, members of the board and unless you think that there's something else that you need to, uh, have Mr. author, I'll put, uh, present, uh, I'd entertain a motion. Speaker 8 00:37:43 Madam chair, Reverend Kenny. I don't have to tell you an emotion that this app application be approved, that and that the applicant be in compliance with all the reports as set forth. Speaker 2 00:37:57 Do I have a second? I'll second that Don Griffin. Thank you. Roll call please. Speaker 1 00:38:06 Yes. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenny and Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:38:15 Yes. Uh, at this time I would like to be excused from this meeting as other matters I have to attend. And Reverend Kenny would do replace me in the chair please. Speaker 3 00:38:32 Madam chair. Speaker 2 00:38:33 Thank you so much. Speaker 8 00:38:39 I, didn't never 11 to rate, to retain CME associates for a report to the re rezone, a block 57 0 1 lot. 1.04, 1.05 and two on a beside way township tax tax map. Just average the discussion to retain and maybe associate, Speaker 3 00:39:20 Uh, Marianne is here on behalf of Steven and CME. Uh, Reverend Kenny, um, essentially this is, uh, an investigation to determine if certain area is properly zoned. Um, so before the, before the planning board can go through, uh, actually hire CME and, and, uh, retain them. Um, there needs to be a resolution that can be sent to the council so that the council can set aside the funds necessary to, um, conduct this study. Speaker 8 00:39:55 Okay. Can I have a motion, Speaker 4 00:39:58 Carol Scott Sanders? I do have a question. What street is this? It just says a lot numbers. Speaker 10 00:40:06 South Washington avenue. Speaker 4 00:40:08 Oh, okay. Speaker 8 00:40:11 Okay, good. I have a motion to, uh, to, uh, return this back to the council, Speaker 10 00:40:20 Kenny, uh, John Clark. And I like to make the motion to retain CME, to investigate the possible rezoning of these properties. Speaker 8 00:40:29 I have a second please. The second of that motion, Speaker 4 00:40:40 Excuse me. This is Harold Saunders. I'll make the second. Speaker 8 00:40:45 Thank you. Speaker 1 00:40:50 Um, yes. Yes. Ms. Saunders. Yes, Reverend canny and Mr. Espinosa. Speaker 8 00:41:04 Okay. Item number 13, pay the bills. Speaker 4 00:41:09 Um, this is Carol Saunders. I make a motion that we pay the bills. Speaker 8 00:41:20 I am number 14, but I have a motion for a German. Speaker 4 00:41:25 I make a motion prior German, Speaker 1 00:41:31 All in favor, Reverend Kenny. You're the pro from Dover. Thank you, sir. Marion. You too. Happy holidays. Bye-bye thank you, Dennis.