Transcript for Piscataway Planning meeting on October 13 2021
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Oct 13 2021 · Planning
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Speaker 0Recording in progress. No, we are ready to go. Madam here.
Speaker 1Okay. Piscataway township planning board meeting will please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the Korean nose notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal government notice made available to the township clerk notice sent to the Korean news and the star ledger notice made public and the public library. Well, the clerk please.
Speaker 0Marijuana counsel. Dear Ms. Corporate here, this wanders, she texts me. She have new to, but it doesn't say she's muted might be on her end. Carol is here. Okay. She's here. Reverend Kenney, Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair here.
Speaker 1Um, the open public meetings notice please, and be ready.
Speaker 2Um, the meetings being held, uh, virtually presented to the zoom notice, Madam chair, as a result of the department of community affairs guidelines promulgated as part of the COVID pandemic. Um, it's appropriate for the meeting to go forward in the virtual setting. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Thank you. Um, can we all recite the pledge of allegiance to the flag is over my shoulder.
Speaker 0Alright. One nation under God, indivisible with Liberty and justice.
Speaker 1Um, do we need to dis professionals to be sworn in tonight since we're only having discussions? Mr. Barela?
Speaker 2Um, I just believe, uh, Mr. Clark, and I'm not sure if Mr. <inaudible> is on the
Speaker 0Mr. Golf's not on tonight.
Speaker 1Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 0Um, you might have to do with Carol. Can you hear me now? I had to go out and come back in. Zoom does not like me. Um, can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear that the testimony about the Guild would the truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you. Okay. Number six,
Speaker 1Mr. Barlow, are there a couple? I believe there are a couple of changes to our agenda.
Speaker 2Then he, one on the meeting is here for the Yates minor subdivision, which is block 1, 1 7 0 1 lot 4.1. One that matter is being carried to the November 10th, 2021 hearing date as is, um, the Rubin matter, which is block 8 1 1 lot 1.01, which is a preliminary and final site plan. And bulk variances is also being carried to the November 10th, 2021 meeting at seven 30 or thereabouts. There'll be no further notices. Madam chair,
Speaker 1Um, adoption of the resolution to memorialize action taken in September on September. The first
Speaker 3Madam chairman. I like to memorialize, um, application 21, PB dash 22 slash 23 V 100 Springfield avenue, LLC, for preliminary a fight final site plan with both variants
Speaker 0Mayor Wallace, Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. Ms. Wanders. Yes. Reverend Kenney. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair. Yes.
Speaker 3Madam chairman. I'd like to moralize application 21, PV dash 25 slash 26 fee for Henry hinder Stein, a minor subdivision and bulk variance
Speaker 1Sent. Do I have a second
Speaker 0Marijuana upstate? Sorry about that. Corcoran, Ms. Saunders. Yes. Wherever penny, Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair. Yes.
Speaker 1Item eight adoption of the minutes from the regular meeting of September, the first 2021.
Speaker 3Okay. Madam chairman liked to, uh, adopt the minutes from the regular meeting of September 1st, 2021.
Speaker 1We'll have a second
Speaker 0Marijuana. Councilman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Porphyrin. Yes. This wanders. Yes. Reverend Katie. Yes. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yeah. I am number nine. Discussion. And then study to discuss whether block 67 0 2 lot 6.02 at 40 Kingsbridge road meets the criteria to be determined as a non condemnation area. Need of redevelopment. Um, I believe we're going to call Mr. Clark.
Speaker 5Yes. Good evening. Members of the board. It looks like I had the spotlight on myself tonight, if you wonderful folks. So I'm going to go ahead and share my screen, uh, just so we can kind of follow along with my report. Okay. We'll start my testimony. So just to confirm when you can see my study, if it's visible. All right. Excellent. So James Clark and a foresight planning, uh, testifying for you before you tonight, I'm going to go walk through my area. I need a redevelopment study for, uh, that the board asked me to prepare for 40 bridge road, which on the tax map is known as block six, seven to lot 6.02. Uh, actually I'll stay on the Ariel for a little bit, give some context. So you can kind of see it's wedge between 2 87 and Centennial avenue here. Um, but before I get into too many details, just a quick overview of what I'll go through is, um, you know, details of the property details of my investigation that I did at the property, and then conclude the findings as it relates to the specific criteria noted in the local redevelopment housing law.
Speaker 5Um, so to page five of my study, which kind of gives a little description, um, I'm sure most of you are you're familiar. So like I said, it's wedged between 2 87 Centennial. Uh, it's in your <inaudible> light industrial zone with 6.64 acres in size. Um, it has a single one story structure on it, 77,152 square feet in size. Uh, and it's actually flanked by I'll scroll up to the area. So you can see it in zoom in a little bit. It's flanked by two parking lots, which have 232 spaces combined between them. Um, and as you can also see, it's covered by solar panel canopies and also some solar panels on their roof. Um, you have to access drives and the there's another or excess, um, egress and ingress and egress. And then, uh, there's an access drive that goes to the rear that connects to two parking lots.
Speaker 5There is a, a loading dock in the rear. So that is a subject property for my study. Um, the building was previously used by Deutsche bank as a disaster recovery office space. Um, the facility was purchased by the bank back in 1996, they made a number of improvements to it over the coming years, uh, so that we use as a disaster recovery facility. So what does that mean if a major disaster happens and they can't use their main offices in New York city or some other major city, they can fall back to this, uh, for business continuity of their operations, uh, for, uh, important institution, such as Deutsche bank. Um, but because of that, by its nature, it mostly sits vacant. So the office space was normally empty or very sparingly used by, uh, socia bank employees during the normal business work weeks. Um, because it's so,
Speaker 6Uh, Mr. Clark quickly to give some of the board members a little background on this site, uh, this is the major recovery site for Deutsche bank for nine 11. Uh, after nine 11, they transferred almost 1200 employees, uh, to that site. Uh, they were there for almost a year and change until they got another site back from downtown, uh, down by wall street. Um, interesting enough. Um, the way chip bank handles the transfers for the federal reserve, uh, the New York stock exchange, uh, didn't get up and running for four days after nine 11. And they were waiting for Deutsche bank on Kingsbridge to get operational because all those people working in conjunction with the New York stock exchange and once they were up and running, that's when the New York stock exchange got up and running. So we have a little piece of history there with this building transferring. Um, so I just wanted to let the board members be aware of that.
Speaker 5Yeah, thank you for that. Um, yeah, as, as a, as the mayor correctly points out, uh, it was used during nine 11, even Superstorm Sandy. Um, and, uh, it was capable of handling between 1200 and the building manager said maybe even 1400 employees at one time in an emergency. So it had, you know, thing, a lot of amenities like a cafeteria, um, air conditioning, it had two generators for backup or does the guests still have two generators for backup power as well as the solar facility for power and energy in case the, the grid went down. Um, so that's a little background and details of the site. Uh, as usual, I look at the New Jersey DP geo map or geo web mapping tool to make sure there's no issues with wetlands permitted sites or endangered species. Uh, when I did my review, no, um, items of big significance came up.
Speaker 5So no wetlands, no endangered species, nothing of that sort. The only thing that came up is the NGDP has an environmental management system. It's kind of just like a database tracking of any records they might have for a property. And two things came up. One was an air permit that regulates the two generators that I just mentioned for the backup power. And then a second record for the permit to, um, register the underground storage tank for the diesel fuel that those generators were used. So it was really just the permits that they hold with DP and no other issues with regard to environmental concerns. Uh, as I mentioned, <inaudible> light industrial. So your surrounding land uses are mainly warehouse commercial office spaces, hotels, a religious facility, um, and then fully construction vehicle rental company is also up the street, uh, directly south is the Verizon office facility.
Speaker 5Um, and yeah, other office spaces in Atlanta. This is so page six and page seven is really just outlining your <inaudible> permitted uses bulk requirements. So I'm going to skip to page seven, which touches on the master plan perspective. So as you, re-examined your master plan back in 2020, um, it definitely discusses the importance of redevelopment for the township, but it does not specifically talk about this property at all. Um, but, uh, in general, your report, your re-examine report does discuss redevelopment in multiple sections with the following being the most applicable to the study area. And it quotes as vacant developable land diminishes in the township public and private redevelopment rehab and adaptive reuse efforts will continue to increase particularly within older sections of the township older develops land. Um, and so actually the study area was originally developed in 1976. I believe many of the buildings or the original buildings in the LA five zone along Syntelli avenue were built around the same time. So I think this qualifies as an older section of Skidaway township, um, and that the study area can benefit from adaptive reuse and redevelopment efforts.
Speaker 5Uh, Steve planning, area classification, as you know, the entire township is planning area one, which the plan, the state plan, um, you know, most of the states development and redevelopment. So, um, with respect to this study area, it is in compliance with the state planning area classification. So I'm going to go to page nine, which is where I can kind of get into the findings of my study. Uh, so during the site visit that I did back on June 8th, it was a weekday pride or 5:00 PM. So during normal business hours, uh, but as soon as I got there, it was very apparent that the facility is not in full use and really hardly used at all. Both parking lots were almost entirely empty. I think I counted five to 10 cars. And when I went inside, uh, I saw a total of four people which included the security guard, the building manager, and two employees.
Speaker 5So page 10, you can start see to see some of the photographs I took and you can really see the unused nature of the office spaces. Um, you'll see the old computer equipment being stored and huge piles of telephones, um, which really shows that the owner intends to vacate the space and that it was no longer used as a disaster recovery facility or an office space really for that matter. Um, and I was told by the building manager when I was there, that the owners network was taken down. Um, so really torture bank really didn't like employees couldn't really go. Um, so there really was no incentive to go there. Um, so I was just kind of go through these photographs. You can see all the piles of office equipment, the rows of monitors set up was really unique. You know, it wasn't anything flashy.
Speaker 5It was really just meant to be able to be used in the event of emergency. So they had these long tables. Um, and you can really see when you, from this view, it just goes all the way down the length of the building, just row upon row of row for employees. So you can imagine during COVID 19 pandemic, this might not be the best space for social distancing, um, or, you know, you would have to go to greater lengths to space everybody out and not be over requirements. Um, you know, almost like a cheaper version of wall street, but, uh, so here's some views of the enclosed offices. There were like three or four off. This was the cafeteria that they could fire up if they needed, but really overall the conditions, some of the photographs show significant vacancy, um, and based on the information acquire from the building manager, uh, it really shows a discontinuance of the use. So criteria B of the law states that the discontinuance of the use of a building or buildings, commercial retail, shopping malls, or plazas office parks, manufacturing, or industrial purposes, the abandonment of such building, if their buildings, significant vacancies of such building or buildings for at least two consecutive years or the same being allowed great, a state of disrepair has to be untenable is what criteria. And I find that the disaster recovery facility at 40 Kingsbridge meets two of those, um, stated qualifications.
Speaker 5So, um, as I said, the photographs really surely clearly show a discontinuous of the use. Um, an office building really can't function without if employees don't have their office equipment like phones, computers, or a network. Um, and in addition, since the network is down for the support set, the office cannot and does not function as it was originally intended, um, especially as a backup facility. So take these facts together, show the use of the disaster recovery facility and then use as an overall office use as being discontinued. Um, also while I was there, I really asked the building manager, you know, why there not that many people here. Um, and he told me that during the past two years, no, the next door is for its Verizon employees. So this arrangement has persisted for well over two years possible, unless the billing question was going through a significant vacancy, otherwise they would need a parking spaces. So those two facts together, um, in my professional opinion, rises to the level of a significant vacant more than two consecutive years as criteria B states. So the combination of the significant vacancy, along with the discontinuance of the use derive from the evidence here in means that criteria B can be applied to the subject property blocks, 6 7 2 lots 6.02.
Speaker 5I also found that criteria D uh, so as I mentioned, it was completely more and more or less completely empty, and it was kind of striking for such a big facility to be a hundred percent empty in the midst of a major global pandemic, which is really a major emergency. Um, you would think it might be a good backup facility, but when you really start to think of syncing, avoiding crowding and doors, or even state or federal mandates really make the office space and its environments, um, obsolete. Um, and just to confirm that my site visit was not a sole outlier, like I said, I asked him about how often people came. He told me, like I just said 60 people on a weekly basis, but even before the pandemic, it was less than 10. Um, so it's, it's really stark, uh, vacancy. Um, so like I said, really, the COVID really put a spotlight on the ineffectiveness of a centralized ER facility for a high number of employees.
Speaker 5Um, the ability to work from home render this facility obsolete. I think this conclusion dovetails with a sharp downturn and office space, uh, used nationally by companies of all descriptions work from home has proliferated, excuse me, proliferated, and, uh, really made large office spaces and office parks, even bleed and more vacant. And given the national trend of technology, reducing demand for office space over the past decade and many predictions that this trend will only continue. It's my professional opinion that, uh, the same applies to a large disaster recovery facility, such as the one on the subject property. Um, only exacerbated the downward trends of office space demands. Um, and it's unlikely that the market would take the single purpose structure to transform it to general or disaster recovery office space. So therefore the facility built upon blocks 7 0 2 lot 6.02 is obsolete. Uh, the obsolete condition of the property is detrimental to the general welfare of the community because reasonable reasonable productivity has ceased resulting in a negative impact on the economic wellbeing of the community.
Speaker 5In my professional opinion, the building is primary use is functionally obsolete and in need of redevelopment due to economic deterioration from the lack of activity. And then finally I found that criteria H which is the smart growth planning principles can be applied to the property. Um, specifically the fact that the study area is within an existing light industrial use area, proximity to 2 87, um, really has great existing infrastructure to preserve the characteristics of the community and help its redevelopment should the board and the council find that it does qualify. So, uh, based on my study in conclusion, it's recommended that the board planning board, uh, and the township council determined that the study area is in need of redevelopment because it meets criteria B D and H of new Jersey's local redevelopment and housing law. Um, so the study area meets three of the statutory criteria to qualify as a non condemnation area in need of redevelopment. Um, and this survey analysis revealed the parcels discontinue use significant vacancies and obsolete nature. Um, so that is my conclusion of my study. I can take any questions.
Speaker 1Okay. Uh, open to the board. Now, do we have any questions from the board? Okay.
Speaker 6If it's obvious what's going on, the it's not just here in Piscataway township, but it's the entire 87 Carter where office buildings are going by the wayside in the pandemic, just put it on steroids. Um, you'd speak with any commercial real estate brokerage person in the state of New Jersey. The first thing they'll tell you is that office warehousing, you know, is, you know, it's basically, you know, the type of facility that's here that we're talking about today is considered a dinosaur now. And we, we, as planning officials have to rethink how that's whole, quarter's going to look like Centennial one avenue and everything. Um, so it's, we're not the only towns going through and Franklin is going through the same thing. Uh, Bridgewater's come with all the towns along 2 87, Edison's going through the same thing. So even all the way up to Morristown. So
Speaker 0Madam chair, it's council and Mackay hill, if I may. Um, so I have, uh, a couple of questions. I mean, you know, there is no question about the office space, um, you know, dying out and all that, but it seems like the canopies with the solar panels, the solar panels on the roof are of some value here. Um, if I could ask you Mr. Clark in, I mean, what, uh, you know, what opportunities do you think you see here on this particular area?
Speaker 5Yeah, I definitely would think it would be a terrible ways to let that go. Um, it really depends on how it's redeveloped and also probably a key thing is the age of the panels themselves. Um, when I was in the facility, there was some information on when they installed those panels. It's that does depends on which panel, but panels typically have a 20 to 30 lifetime or life cycle of how long they can be used and they do degrade over time. Um, so I think it's a couple things on the, whoever it becomes the redeveloper would have to talk with Deutsche, they can acquire the panels and maybe also, um, test them to see if they're worth keeping or, um, can be recycled somehow in some safe manner. But, um, yeah, I would agree. It would be, it would be a bad way to get rid of those panels, but, um, I think it really just, it's got a, it's got to make sense from a material and cost perspective, I think between the two parties. Um, but I'm, I'm certainly sure they can be stored, you know, on installed, stored, and then possibly put on the new parking lot or on the building.
Speaker 0I know some of those are either a decade or less old, maybe some older, um, only because I worked for while I still work for an educational firm that partner with Verizon. So I would be in that building frequently, but, and see the building behind it. The other question I have for you is, um, with regard to the eventual, um, expansion of, uh, the route 2 87 corridor and the lanes, um, there is, there does this owner of this property, uh, will they have to give up a right of way, uh, for that, because I know we've asked it of other, um, corporate buildings.
Speaker 5So I am not a hundred percent familiar with that, but just looking at the Ariel Kingsbridge is in front of the property and they don't own the, um, the small area between the highway and Kingsbridge. So I'm thinking now,
Speaker 0So you think the state may own that already?
Speaker 5Good question. Maybe, um, township may owns probably some of the right away on Kingsbridge, but the space between the state may already own, right.
Speaker 0Madam chair, I would ask that it be put into the record that I think it's worthy of us finding out who owns that land. I'm not so sure that it's going to be a determining factor on this particular discussion, but it should be noted so that we know when, um, you know, if a redeveloper comes in and they're talking with Deutsche bank, they know exactly what, um, may be asked of them that wasn't previously,
Speaker 1Um, okay. You want it noted on the record. It'll be noted in the record that, that, that was part of our discussion. Thank you. Any other discussion from members of the board? Go right ahead.
Speaker 4Thank you. How many buildings are on that facility? I know there's a few,
Speaker 5So I'm, I'm not sure if you can see the aerial. So on the road itself, you're right. There's a couple of buildings, but the one in the center, it's just one building on the subject property lot. So it's just one lot one building, but, uh, it does have neighbors on either side and south bay close proximity. So in that, in that like stretch of area, it looks like there's 1, 2, 3,
Speaker 4Uh, corporate office buildings in that area there. Right. Okay. Yeah. That's my question. But you know what developer comes in here, you know, what kind of a warehouse, you know, would be what office building that may be a problem between your neighbors too concerned with that. Okay. That's that's the only question I have in mind right now. Thank you.
Speaker 1You're welcome. Anyone else in the, on the board will have a question? I have a question. Um, Mr. Clarkin, uh, the other two pieces of property next on either side of this particular parcel of property, are they available or are they in any jeopardy of, or are they in use? I should say. Hmm.
Speaker 5Um, good question. So I don't believe I looked at surrounding uses or like, well, I looked at surrounding uses, but not from a vacancy standpoint. Um, so I don't know, uh, apparently look into it to find out though.
Speaker 1I was just considering whether in D in creating if this is, if, if our recommendation is, is, uh, is forwarded to the council for consideration of a redevelopment plan, um, those two things would be taken into consideration as to how that property could be used in whether it affected expansion of the 2 87 cars. Wouldn't that be taken into consideration at that time as to how they're going to redevelopment that redeveloped that property.
Speaker 5So if this moves forward the reader and we moved to a redevelopment plan, it would solely be for this parcel, but we would look at any traffic impacts. There might be on neighbors, but if you wanted to include the properties on other side, we would have to amend the study to include them.
Speaker 1Yeah. Um, I'm not considering that right now, but I didn't know what state of use or disuse or disrepair there in.
Speaker 5I understand. Yeah. So I didn't get a chance to go inside those buildings. Um, but I can probably do like,
Speaker 0You know, a cursory review to see if they're vacant or not Madam chair. I would agree with you that that would be important to know.
Speaker 1Yeah. Okay. Do we have any other questions from the board? If not, I'll open it up to the public, having no response from our board members. Um, Ms. Buckley, could you open it up to the public and see if there's anyone who has any questions regarding this?
Speaker 0Can you want your, your screenplays? Oh, yes. Sorry. Thank you. Okay. Stop share. Okay, perfect. No one is raising their hands. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Okay. Thank you. Close to the public. All right. Board members, I will hear your discussion or take a, um, emotion.
Speaker 2Excuse me.
Speaker 1We have a vote up or down to what you mean, how we should proceed. Okay. Well, I'll make a motion. Okay, go ahead. I hear my
Speaker 8Madam chair. I like to make a motion that we, um, um, declare this area in need of redevelopment. Um, and that we, uh, share our findings with the township council, um, for their concurrence.
Speaker 1Do I have a second? I'll second. It I'll second it, uh, please call the goal.
Speaker 0Yes. Council woman. Kay hill. Yes. Yes. Ms. Saunders, We lose her again. Reverend Kenney, Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2And I'm chair. Um, since I was going to be a way I had prepared a resolution just in case so that it can be forwarded to the township council. Um, I didn't want to run into any deadlines since I was away. So if the board wishes to adopt it so it can be forwarded on.
Speaker 1Um, yes. Ms. Saunders, can you hear, can you, are you prepared to present that resolution?
Speaker 0Okay. We're going to buy her a laptop.
Speaker 1She on a cell phone. Um,
Speaker 0Yes. Yes. She says I'm speaking. It cannot hear me chat.
Speaker 2Um, Ms. Corcoran, since you made the motion to, um, forwarded on, do you want to make a motion to adopt the resolution in Ms. Saunders absence?
Speaker 8No problem, Mr. Barlow. So I'm not going to do it nearly as well as her, but like to make a motion that we adopt the resolution, um, declaring this property as a non condemnation area needed redevelopment. Uh, the property is known as block 67 0 2 lot 0.6 0.02 40, um, Kingsbridge road,
Speaker 0Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran and Saunders will bring Kenny Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2Thank you very much. Have a good evening.
Speaker 1Our next item of discussion is item 12. I believe amendment to redevelop plan for 800 Centennial avenue blocks, 6,703 lot 2.20 2.02.
Speaker 2Madam chair. I thought Mr. Golly would be here to comment on it, but I assume because the other two applications were, um, adjourn that he would need to comment on. I can just briefly go over it for the board if you'd like. Yes. Okay. There this matter 800 Centennial urban renewal is already the subject of a redevelopment agreement. Um, however, the agreement only allows one facade sign per building, um, and the applicant through, um, Mr. <inaudible> office has requested that the, uh, that the redevelopment agreement be, um, amended to permit one facade sign per tenant, essential, essentially there's multiple tenants in the site, and obviously only having one sign doesn't really help the tenants once you get past one. Um, so that request was made to the township council. The township council, um, was amenable to it. So they referred it to the planning board as it is. It changed the redevelopment agreement to get the planning board's comments as to whether or not the planning board felt. It was, um, a reasonable request to amend the redevelopment agreement, to allow a facade sign per tenant up until only a maximum of six tenants. Um, not more than that. And that's essentially what the amendment is calls for. If anyone has any questions, if, uh, if as to what the amendment seeks, I'll be happy to answer
Speaker 1Anyone have any questions about this proposed amendment? Well, I, for one up to six to eight people, this'll be a quite sizable change in the, um, our usual requirements besides on Centennial avenue own it isn't that a substantial departure.
Speaker 8If I may, Madam chair, the, what happened is, is that the redevelopment plan was silent on the facade signs and made reference to the zoning ordinance. The zoning were in the meeting, never took into account a multitenant building, um, you know, especially a building of this size. So as Mr. Barlow stated, there are three tenants in the building, the building is fully occupied, but down the road in the event that let's say a tenant leaves and that space is divided up and you have two more tenants or maybe three that's where we're at, we're capping it at six. Um, we may never get to six. Those three tenants may stay in that building, I don't know for years to come. So, um, again, it was just because the zoning ordinance as it is, it just doesn't take into account for a multitenant building.
Speaker 2And I, I assume Mr. <inaudible> proposal was due a maximum of six and that's what the governing body sends. So if a fourth was added, the board wouldn't have to deal with this repeatedly.
Speaker 4Madam chair, may I ask the question, Kenny, in regards to the signs signage now is that, uh, there are six tenets or 3 10, 1 sign or six various different signs.
Speaker 8Each tenant could have their own sign right now only one, one tenant is able to place a sign on that building under the current zoning warning to other tenants in that building that aren't permitted to have any signage at all.
Speaker 4Yeah. Understand that part of it is it doesn't like, like, like they would do a, uh, a shopping area where there's one side with multiple tenants names. No,
Speaker 2I believe they're facade signs. So they would be physically on the building, obviously me on the speed and the size of the signs obviously has to comply with the township ordinance.
Speaker 4I understand that, but look, the question I'm at are these signs going to be on the road, uh, uh, close to the side walk or what area? And six various different signs.
Speaker 8They're on the building there besides signs. So they're only on the building. They're not,
Speaker 4Oh, okay. Then that answers my question. I don't have any problem with that being on a building that's six individual scientists, a lot of the roads on it. Okay. Thank you.
Speaker 1Okay. Any other questions from many other members of the board? Should we open it up to the public? Was Ms. Buckley?
Speaker 0Anyone from the public have any comments or questions?
Speaker 1Okay. Close to the public. Okay. What is your pleasure board members? Um, we would need an amendment to the redevelopment agreement.
Speaker 2Yeah. It would ultimately be the governing bodies to decision to amend it Madam chair. So this is a referral back to the governing body that the, that the planning board, um, finds the amendment acceptable. And then the township council will have to ultimately authorize the,
Speaker 1Okay. Good. Do we have a motion for referral back to the town council
Speaker 4As a chair, Reverend Kenny I'll make a referral that goes back to the town council for
Speaker 1Recommending, uh, this suggestion. Do I have a second?
Speaker 0Oh, they're Walter Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Yes. Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenny, Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes. Number 13, discussion to retain for site planning, LLC.
Speaker 0Madam chair
Speaker 2Again, because I was away. I adopt, I, uh, crafted a resolution, um, setting for the motion dress made by the board, so it could get back to the township council in time. So it wouldn't be appropriate. Um, if can, do I have the
Speaker 9Motion? Do you have
Speaker 1That mean the resolution?
Speaker 2I believe you should have the resolution. Yes.
Speaker 9Okay. Hold on. Let me just check. Hold on. I'm sorry. Um,
Speaker 2This is resolution amending redevelopment plan.
Speaker 9Okay. Let me just see, uh, okay, wait a minute. Um, I got the counsel for the Fort 4,100 new Brunswick.
Speaker 0No, 800 some Tanya. You could just read a right from the agenda.
Speaker 9Oh, okay. Cause I, give me say, I don't see it. All right. Okay. Let me just read it from agenda. Okay. I recommend that we, um, more like the resolution for 300 Centennial avenue. Is that what you said? I'm sorry. 800 and Santo avenue block 67 0 3 lots, 2.02 for signs, Matt and Sharon joined cork. And I'll
Speaker 1Second that
Speaker 0Yes. Ms. Corcoran. This responders. Yes. Reverend Kenny, Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes. Okay. Now can we move on to item 13? Is that right? Mr. Barlow. Okay. Discussion to resign, retain foresight planning, LLC, to provide professional services, to prepare an area in need of redevelopment study four block 53 0 1 lot 1404, also known as 1551 south Washington avenue.
Speaker 2Um, Madam chair, I guess briefly the township council by way of resolution. I believe dated September 14th, 2021. Um, referred to the planning board, um, uh, that they had, uh, a proposal from foresight, um, to do a redevelopment study for this particular property and that the funds were available for that to be done. So essentially it would just be a resolution from the planning board to, uh, retain for site planning. Mr. Clark testified earlier about the other redevelopment plan to prepare a redevelopment plan, to advise the planning board, whether or not this meets the necessary for a area need of redevelopment study plan.
Speaker 1So we need a motion for a resolution to retain, correct?
Speaker 2Yes. The motion to retain. And then again, because I was away, I prepared a resolution formerly adopting it so that it could be transferred transmitted to the township council. So they were aware of sane and that he can start working on the project.
Speaker 1Can I get that motion?
Speaker 4Reverend Kenya, I make a motion to re retain the foresight planning to, uh, uh, to go to the downshift council, uh, block 1551 south watching today.
Speaker 1I believe it's M 53 0 1, but that's just an adjustment Testament.
Speaker 4The one south Washington avenue.
Speaker 1Okay. 1551. Okay. Block 53, 0 1. Okay. Do I have a second Roll call?
Speaker 0They are Waller Councilwoman Cahill. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yeah. This wanders. Yes. Reverend canny. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes. Now, uh, the adoption resolution
Speaker 9Adopt the resolution to retain for site planning, LLC, for area in need of redevelopment study for block 53 0 1 lot 14.04. Also known as 1551 south Washington avenue.
Speaker 1Do I have a second?
Speaker 0Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. The Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenny, Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And that I'm chair.
Speaker 1Yes. And another discussion to retain for a site planning, LLC, to provide professional services, to prepare an area in native re redevelopment study for a block 17 0 1 lot 2.03, also known as 4,100 new Brunswick avenue. Mr. Barlow.
Speaker 2Yep. Madam chair, same situation as the last one. This was a, there was a resolution done by the township council. I don't have the date in front of me. I was at the last township.
Speaker 0Okay. That's nice.
Speaker 2Thank you. Um, then that the funds were available to retain for site, um, to study the area of 4,100 new Brunswick avenue. So again, um, presumably if the, uh, planning board Mr. Clark, and will again prepare, uh, the present board at a later meeting as to whether or not the area is in need of redevelopment. So if that's the board's pleasure, the emotion to retain them, and then the resolution again has been prepared. Um, so that could be adopted, also met before,
Speaker 1And I get a motion to retain from member of the board, please.
Speaker 4Reverend Katie I'll make a motion to retain a block. 1701 lab, 2.03 for, uh, for redevelopment need for wheat.
Speaker 1I believe he included he was making that motion to retain foresight planning, LLC. Do I get a second?
Speaker 9Carol,
Speaker 1Carol Saunders. Seconding. Can I get the roll call please?
Speaker 0Marijuana Councilwoman kale. Yes. Yes. The Saunders. Yes. Reverend Kenney. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. And Madam chair. Yes.
Speaker 9Um, Madam chairman. I like the memorials lies the resolution to retain for site planning, LLC, for area in need of redevelopment study for block 17. Oh one lot 2.03 also known as 4,100 new Brunswick avenue.
Speaker 0Yes. Yes. It's porphyrin. Yes. It's wanders. Yes. Reverend Kenny. Mr. Espinosa.
Speaker 1Yes. Not yet.
Speaker 0We're good. We'll say number 15. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Uh, motion to pay the bills.
Speaker 9Oh second. Okay.
Speaker 0Yes. Yes. Ms. Corcoran. Yes. The Saunders. Yes. Mr. Espinosa. Yes. Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes. Motion to adjourn.
Speaker 0All right. Yeah, we'll do it. Yes. Yes. This Corcoran. Yes. That's the lenders. Yes. Wherever Kenny, Mr. Espinosa and Madam chair.
Speaker 1Yes. Good night. Everyone have a good evening.