Transcript for Piscataway Planning meeting on March 11 2026

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Speaker 0     00:00:04    Okay. The Piscataway Township Planning Board meeting will please come to order. Order. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in the following ways. Notice published in the Courier News notice posted on the bulletin board of the municipal Building notice made available in the to the township clerk Notice sent to the Courier News. Ms. Buckley, would you please call the role  
Speaker 1     00:00:27    Mayor Wahler Present Councilwoman Cahill. Oh, she's not coming. My apologies. Ms. Corcoran? Here. Ms. Saunders? Here. Reverend Kinneally. Present. Mr. Atkins? Here. Mr. Aria Here. And Madam Chair here.  
Speaker 0     00:00:44    Mr. Barlow, would you please read the Open Public Note meeting Notice?  
Speaker 2     00:00:48    Certainly. Madam Chair, I'd like to place on the record we're doing this meeting through an online meeting platform, specifically Zoom and keeping with the guidelines that have been disseminated by the Department of Community Affairs, the planning board has tried its best to comply with the Open Public Meetings Act and the DCA guidelines. In addition, any applicant as matters will be heard this evening, has had the login information for the online meeting platform put forth in their notice. Members of the public who wish to be heard will be afforded an opportunity as if they were in an act actual physical space. I believe the Board has done its absolute best to comply with the DCA guidelines and the Open Public Meetings Act. Thank you Madam Chair.  
Speaker 0     00:01:26    The flag can be seen over my right shoulder. Can we all cross our hearts and, and recite the Pledge of Allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. United of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation, nation under God, indivisible, with liberty  
Speaker 2     00:01:48    And justice for  
Speaker 3     00:01:49    All.  
Speaker 0     00:01:52    Can we have the swearing in of the professionals?  
Speaker 2     00:01:55    That would be Mr. Wyatt Grant, who will be testifying later for the  
Speaker 0     00:02:01    Is he present?  
Speaker 2     00:02:02    Yes. Yes he is. Madam  
Speaker 0     00:02:03    Chair. Okay.  
Speaker 3     00:02:05    Okay. Can you please raise your right hand? Your testimony about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth. I do. Thank you.  
Speaker 0     00:02:15    Mr. Barlow. Are any, are there any adjustments or amendments to our agenda tonight?  
Speaker 2     00:02:20    Yes. Madam Chair number 1225 PB 15 slash 16 v vir, LLC, which is 1 36 Stone Road will not be heard this evening. It's postponed to the April 8th meeting, as they must notice for the application, that is the only change.  
Speaker 0     00:02:39    Okay.  
Speaker 1     00:02:39    Excuse Madam Chair. Can the record show Mr. Ahmed is with us? Plus she's  
Speaker 0     00:02:43    Here. Okay. Let the record reflect that Mr. Hammed is present for the meeting tonight. Okay. Now we'll proceed with our agenda. Item number seven. Seven. Can I get a motion to pay the duly audited bills?  
Speaker 4     00:03:03    Madam Chair, Reverend Kinneally, I make a motion to pay the duly order bills.  
Speaker 0     00:03:07    Can I get a second?  
Speaker 3     00:03:08    Carol Saunders second  
Speaker 0     00:03:11    Roll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:03:12    Mayor Wahler. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:03:17    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:03:18    Reverend Caddy? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Ahmed? Yes. Mr. Echeveria? Yes. And Madam Chair.  
Speaker 0     00:03:26    Yes. I believe we have adoption of resolutions to be more memorialized. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:03:33    Madam Chairman, I'd like to memorialize the application 25 PV 19 slash 20 B for 51 Holly Road Associates minor subdivision in bulk variance.  
Speaker 0     00:03:46    Do we have a second?  
Speaker 4     00:03:47    Madam Chair? Reverend Kinneally, a second  
Speaker 0     00:03:50    Roll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:03:51    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders? Yes. Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Ah Hammed. Yes. Mr. Aria? Yes. And Madam Chair?  
Speaker 0     00:04:04    Yes.  
Speaker 3     00:04:06    Madam Chair. I like more Reli application 25 PV 17 slash 18 VKR CX price. Brit, LC Preliminary and final site plan with both variance.  
Speaker 0     00:04:19    Second. Do we have a second? Second. Do we have  
Speaker 3     00:04:21    A second? Do  
Speaker 4     00:04:22    We have Reverend Kinneally? I'll second it.  
Speaker 0     00:04:25    I'll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:04:26    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:04:32    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:04:33    Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Hammed? Yes. Mr. Echeveria? Yes. And Madam Chair?  
Speaker 0     00:04:41    Yes. Item number nine, we have minutes to be adopted from February 11.  
Speaker 3     00:04:49    Madam Chair, I'd like to memorialize and adopted minutes from the regular meeting on February 11th, 2026.  
Speaker 0     00:04:56    Do we have a  
Speaker 4     00:04:56    Second? Reverend Kinneally? I'll second it.  
Speaker 0     00:04:59    Roll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:05:01    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders? Yes. Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Jo Hammed? Yes. Mr. Eva? Yes. And Madam Chair?  
Speaker 0     00:05:14    Yes. Item number 10, there's a discussion regarding the amended fourth round housing element and Fair share housing plan.  
Speaker 2     00:05:24    Yep. Madam Chair, if I, I'll just address it briefly and then I'll hand it off to Mr. Grant. The board had previously adopted the fourth round housing element and the fair share plan as part out of the ongoing affordable housing issues in the state of New Jersey and the litigation that came from there and the mediation program the township's been involved in. There are some deadlines that require the municipality to amend the fourth round housing element and Fair share Plan. Plan known as the Hef Sspa, H-E-F-S-P. And as part of that Harbor Consultants and Mr. Grant is here from Harbor Consultants prepared a report as to the Y and the what for about it, and I'll turn it over to him and he'll educate the board on on what's going on. Okay.  
Speaker 5     00:06:24    Good evening everyone.  
Speaker 2     00:06:26    Evening  
Speaker 5     00:06:28    I would, if I'm able to share my screen, that may be helpful to explain just a little bit of the background.  
Speaker 2     00:06:34    Okay.  
Speaker 5     00:06:42    Is everyone able to see the screen right now?  
Speaker 2     00:06:45    Yes. Yes sir. Yes.  
Speaker 5     00:06:47    Okay. So in June of 2025, the, the township adopted its housing element fair share plan, which essentially outlined how, how the township would be providing affordable units over the fourth round period of 2025 to 2035 based on its state mandated, state mandated obligation. So the obligation for the fourth round was 539 units. And when the plan was presented to the board and the township in June of last year, we had conducted a vacant land adjustment, which calculated the, the realistic development potential of 316 units. And we provided a chart with accrediting, which I won't go over too much because the board approved essentially this chart last year. But I just wanted to give a background of to reference later when I'm talking about the updates to the plan for this chart. So we originally had an RDP of 316, which is met through several different projects, which are listed in this chart and we can go over later in time.  
Speaker 5     00:08:00    And that resulted into meeting A RDP of 316 and then subtracted from the fourth round perspective need of 539. That left us with an unmet need of 223 units, which we addressed these different mechanisms. You can see in the chart here, what happened over the course of time is through the amended Fair Hou Housing Act by the end of August, 2025, after the township had adopted its plan in June of 2025, any challenger had the opportunity to challenge the plan through a formal submission process. And the township did receive two challenge letters. One from Eminem developers, which was proposing to have their property included in the plan, which it wasn't included in the plan in 2025. And then also Fair Share Housing Center had challenged the plan to help with the town basically down to, to mitigate the issues with m and m and also to clean up some other items of the plan.  
Speaker 5     00:09:07    So over the course of negotiations of the fall of 2025, the township has been through the process of the Affordable Housing Dispute Resolution program, has been going through negotiations with Eminem, the Challenger and Fair Share Housing Center, and had a series of settlement conferences. Over the course of the fall, there were four different conferences, and by the deadline of the end of 2025, the township hadn't fully settled with m and m and proposed an amendment to the Fair Share Housing plan based on those negotiations. And that proposal was submitted to both to the Affordable Housing Dispute Resolution program in the court. And I'll go through that plan now. And this is essentially the plan that after it's been submitted to the court, the township also received a letter of recommendation from the program judge and then also a decision from the Superior Court judge of Middlesex County that is essentially backing this chart that you're seeing right here that we're proposing the planning board to adopt this evening pending ongoing negotiations with Eminem on the site, which the township is still going on, but it's based on the density of this chart.  
Speaker 5     00:10:32    So this chart, once it's approved, would be essentially attached as an amendment to the plan from 2025 with revisions to certain elements of the plan, which I'll go over very briefly to help sort of break down the chart. I tried to color, color categorize the chart for projects that were already in the 2025 plan, but just the density changed, which are in the orange color. Some are existing projects which were in the 2025 plan and just the type of unit change. So it may have been listed as a family unit and now it's age restricted. And purple is for an existing project and it's moved from the unmet need to the RDP because the main, the main issue through these negotiations and the 2025 plan, we had broken the plan down to into RDP and unmet need because the town had conducted a vacant land adjustment.  
Speaker 5     00:11:30    And now this proposal we're completely getting rid of the vacant land adjustment and fully satisfying then the town's entire fourth round obligation of 539 units. And then lastly, we've added some new projects based on the challenge, the challenges from both Fair Share Housing Center and m and m and those are highlighted in yellow. So moving forward, the Stelton Apartments Project, this was already included in the 2025 plan, but we increased the density of the site based on discussions with the property owner and developer of the site. So in the 2025 plan, this particular project was at 32 units and now we've increased it to 43 units, but the set aside of 20% remains the same. Originally at the 32, when it was at 32 units in 2025, excuse me, lemme look at my notes real quick. It was proposed at 160 total units inclusive of 32 affordables. And now based on further discussions, we have changed that to 43 Affordables, which are part of 250 total units on the project.  
Speaker 5     00:12:50    Two of the other changes are that we included a new site to the Plan Turner Place in South Washington Avenue, which will be an inclusionary family project, a total of 34 units at a 20% set aside of seven affordable units, which will be credited toward the town's overall perspective, need obligation, and then responding to the challenge from Eminem that the town received last fall. And through these ongoing negotiations, this property has been added to the plan. Right now, under negotiations we've proposing 613 total units on the site. One component will be 475 family rental units, which with a 20% set aside of 95 affordables, and then there will also be 138 age restricted market rate units on the site. There's also additional non-residential space on the site, and the extent of that is still under negotiations with m and m, but the overall affordable housing obligation at 95 is staying the same. And that's what we're proposing as part of this amended plan.  
Speaker 8     00:14:03    I I, if I may, Madam chair, I want to jump in on the m and m, I just wanna let the board know, and I know several of you do know that Eminem, pretty much when they came in a proposal was trying to destroy the township center contracts. So we still have to sit down under the auspices of the, the courts. However, their motive was always to destroy and just put, you know, thousands of units out there. So which would've would, would, would've been a disaster for the town. So, go ahead. Go ahead Wyatt.  
Speaker 5     00:14:36    Yeah, so Eminem, when they had originally come through with a challenge, came in at a very high density. They had originally put together a concept of over 900 units and through negotiations, the town is working with Eminem in the process, but right now has held to 613 units and that's what's being credited toward the plan. Well, 613 total units. To be clear, only 95 affordables from the project are used towards the town's obligation. Two other minor changes is that the R site and the 44 Stelton Road sites, they were included as unmet need, but since the town has gotten rid of the vacant land adjustment, and so these projects have moved forward. For example, RIA already has final site plan resolution at that time last year had not received that, so it's moved as a more viable project towards crediting towards the townships for their navigation.  
Speaker 5     00:15:35    And then the Delio site, it originally had been listed in the 2025 plan is family and the township has changed that project to be age restricted. And then finally, to fully wrap up the town's compliance with its overall affordable housing obligation, it's added an a hundred percent affordable housing site at the Macedonia free will Baptist Church properties and for up to 83 units. So the 83 is' an a, a finite number. The, the actual unit count is still in the process as we're working with the developer to prepare the concept plans. But as part of this plan, they're committing to up to 83 units, so it could be 83 units or less. And as you can see, the time that total is up to, with all these credits and units in the chart to 583 total units and credits and based on the obligation of 4 539, that's fully being met. So that's essentially a breakdown of, of the compliance mechanisms. I'm happy to take any questions that anyone has on any of these sites or any of the mechanisms.  
Speaker 8     00:16:47    I I just wanna Madam Chair jump in there to let the board members know at one time when this discussions got underway, the courts and the master of the court, they actually were using GIS mapping and they actually had over a hundred plus units in our public works yard that they wanted to be built. And on other wetlands throughout the town that they wanted things built, all you had to do was just look at a GIS map and you could see that it was wetlands and or the public works yard. That's how screwed up this whole application process is. Go ahead Wyatt.  
Speaker 5     00:17:30    Yeah, so I'm, this is essentially the amendments to the plan. The main component is that the VLA was removed. The township has gone through negotiations through the program to amend the plan to add additional sites, being the m and m site and the a hundred percent affordable site and other minor revisions to the plan, such as the increase in density to the Stelton Road apartment site. And now through different, the response that we've had from both the program and the court is that they're supportive of this plan pending settlement with Eminem and the township is working with Eminem to, to move forward with that process of having a town center at a density that's acceptable for both the township and the developer. Other than that, I'm happy to take any, any further questions before voting on, on what these changes are. Anything,  
Speaker 3     00:18:31    This is Carol Saunders. I did have a question on the Macedonia. Yes. I thought that was originally slated to be single family homes.  
Speaker 5     00:18:40    That site I know underwent, but now it's been added as a hundred percent affordable housing site as part of the township's compliance. The, the, the township doesn't have a concept plan for the site yet, and that's why the unit count is up to 83. But to my understanding, it's not proposed for single family homes as part of this plan.  
Speaker 0     00:19:12    What type of housing is it gonna be?  
Speaker 8     00:19:15    It's gonna be a, a h affordable,  
Speaker 5     00:19:19    It would be  
Speaker 0     00:19:19    Apartment units. Senior  
Speaker 3     00:19:20    Housing?  
Speaker 5     00:19:23    Yes.  
Speaker 0     00:19:24    Senior housing apartments  
Speaker 5     00:19:27    I believe. Yes. Senior housing apartments. Correct.  
Speaker 3     00:19:34    The, so senior housing apartments next to single family homes. Is that the proposal?  
Speaker 8     00:19:40    Yeah, Carol, that's the proposal. Yeah. You said there's gonna be a lot of building going on, unfortunately in our community, and I just wanna let the general public know it's not our doing, it's the courts and fair share housing and a housing advocate  
Speaker 0     00:19:58    Is that there's gonna  
Speaker 8     00:19:58    Be a lot of, unfortunately a lot of development going throughout the whole town.  
Speaker 0     00:20:04    Is that that going to have any impact on the senior housing that's going on South Washington Avenue?  
Speaker 8     00:20:10    No, that's a Madam Chair. That's a separate, separate, separate application. Separate,  
Speaker 2     00:20:18    Yeah. I mean, why, you can correct me this, that's still a, the one on Macedonia is still a concept. They don't even have plans yet to then still file the application. So they're probably down the road a little. And the other thing yeah,  
Speaker 8     00:20:35    They, they would still have to co Mr. Barley's come, he's to come before the board  
Speaker 0     00:20:39    1 1 1 at a time. We need to have one at a time talk. Yeah.  
Speaker 2     00:20:42    Oh, a hundred percent Mayor. They still have to come before the board, but they don't even have a, a concept plan yet. So, and the other thing, you know, board members unfor that even with the complexity of all this, the courts didn't really give the municipalities a, a large time window because the deadline to do this is March 16th. So I've March 16th that this week. Yep. So it, it, it deadline to adopt this plan is what I mean, not  
Speaker 4     00:21:14    To start.  
Speaker 2     00:21:15    And, and what I've seen is over the last month, all the surrounding towns have been scrambling like, like Piscataway had to, because this is kind of being rammed down, you know, the town's throat so to speak,  
Speaker 8     00:21:27    This whole law with that, the state legisla that it was all screwed up.  
Speaker 2     00:21:32    Yeah, yeah. So this  
Speaker 8     00:21:35    Is is, I mean, Madam Chair, the fact that they actually had our public works yard slated to have well over 150 units there and we had to convince the judge that was our public work chart, when anybody could go on Google Earth or whatever and see that it was a public work, just tell, tells you right there how screwed this whole thing is.  
Speaker 0     00:21:58    Wow. Any other questions for members of the board?  
Speaker 4     00:22:04    Reverend Kinneally? I just said, I know that they were proposing these houses for seniors, but they still have to have seniors someplace to live because some seniors don't wanna live in a building, you know, such as a seniors building and you know, they want to be able to afford, I I understand a lot of that. And not only this municipality, but they're doing it up in northwestern, New Jersey too. They're, they're forcing it throughout the whole state. The government demands this type of a living quarters and if you have the land, I we're, we're just gonna have to com the court's gonna make us comply with it.  
Speaker 0     00:22:49    Okay. Any other comments from the board?  
Speaker 3     00:22:55    No, you said we'll, we'll be able to see the plan. My my thing is there's a school the next block over and the traffic is already a nightmare.  
Speaker 2     00:23:05    Ms. Saunders, this does this plan that that the, that's before the board and the, and the board's being asked to adopt is just okay outlining for the court. Basically, this is how Piscataway intends to comply with the fourth round over the next, I believe it's 10 years. Okay. So the, the stuff that's already being built or, or the board's approved goes, that's why the, I think Wyatt was trying to show the different colors. Some of this is proposed and like anything else, they'll have to come before this board for site plan approval with traffic experts and all that. And the, you know, each project, the board will get its opportunity to, you know, weigh in and, and, and comment as those projects are, are brought to bear by each applicant and owner.  
Speaker 0     00:24:00    These that we're talking about tonight that we've had on this chart, these are already in the process. This is like the fourth rung for, for adjustments and amendments to these that are already on the, on the planning on the chart to be, to be approved tonight. I think you said this is the fourth round for the ones that we're talking about. So  
Speaker 2     00:24:20    The board adopted a fourth round. Right. And why is the fourth why I jump in if I, if I get this wrong? The board had already adopted a fourth round, which had 300 plus units. The courts basically came in and said, nope, it's, it's 500 plus. So we have to have a plan that reflects the number the courts imposed upon us. So in order to find the additional units, we had to amend this plan and add in these additional sites to get our numbers up. So that's why it's an amendment to the fourth round. And we would go back to the court and say, look, before March 16th, we adopted this amendment. The numbers 49 comply with the court's mandate so that we are not found to be, you know, in contempt of court, so to speak, for not complying. And then the normal development process still takes place for anything that this board hasn't already approved.  
Speaker 5     00:25:29    I guess to clarify, the rounds is kind of confus and the round only refers, it's not the round of revision to the plan, it refers to a time period. So since the Mount Laurel doctrine was passed in the 1970s, this is now the fourth round, they're typically 10 year periods. But in prior rounds, the duration of that 10 year period was extended because of just the organization of KOA at the time, which has now been abolished. But just to be clear, this isn't the fourth ti time this plan has been proposed. This is just an amendment front for the plan that we're saying how the units are gonna be provided for the fourth, fourth round period, which is this oncoming 10 year period of 2025 until 2035. As far as the numbers are concerned, we're just, for example, the a hundred percent affordable housing site, this plan is only committing to a number to say that the town is fully complying with the plan. That's why it says up to 83 units. So 83 is not a hard set number and like I said, there's not, there has been no application before the board regarding this pro. I mean, there has been a prior application, but not based on the density that's proposed in this plan. And the town will be working through concepts with the developer and the property owner of this site that obviously would go through planning, board review, et cetera. And that's just one component of the compliance mechanisms of the plan.  
Speaker 0     00:27:01    The Macedonia site included in this plan,  
Speaker 5     00:27:04    Correct?  
Speaker 0     00:27:05    It is, it is included in this fourth round,  
Speaker 5     00:27:10    Yes. Correct.  
Speaker 0     00:27:12    Okay.  
Speaker 5     00:27:14    I think I saw someone raising their hand  
Speaker 0     00:27:17    And in the public  
Speaker 9     00:27:18    No, no, that that was me. I appreciate the application and, and you  
Speaker 0     00:27:22    Know, this helpful. Okay, go ahead Mr. Trove.  
Speaker 9     00:27:25    I apologize. This is helpful information. You know, from what I'm hearing clearly is that these are proposed sites that still have to come and improve in all, all the steps. I need to go with it, but this is just an early analysis of where we could potentially put something. Am I understanding that correctly? Is the short the short version of it?  
Speaker 5     00:27:43    Yes. It would be the township is committing to providing the affordable units for these sites to meet its state mandate obligation. So I guess to go back further in the history, the, the obligation of 539, that was part of the process of when the fourth round law was adopted in 2024. Essentially each town was assigned its affordable housing obligation, the number of units it had to build during the fourth round. When that came forth, that was produced by the DCA, the Department of Community Affairs. They produced a report that essentially was based on population projections, these different factors, like the mayor said, some of it was based on the land capacity, but as the mayor was said, that there were some errors in the methodology of that process. And that's when the township had an opportunity, Hey  
Speaker 8     00:28:32    Wyatt, come on, you're color coding it there, it was a major screw up by DCA. Come on, just lay the cards on the table.  
Speaker 5     00:28:39    Yeah, so they you're  
Speaker 8     00:28:40    Being, you're being polite there.  
Speaker 5     00:28:43    So yeah, the, the 539 was actually not the town's original assigned number. We had gone back and produced our own report and that number was essentially negotiated and, and brought down based on our own report to the obligation for the town of 539 for the 10 year period. And then once that number was committed to, that's when the town could put put forth these different compliance mechanisms. So that's what the town was doing over the course of last year. They had to adopt a plan by June of June 30th, 2025, producing sites to meet that obligation of 539 and to go back to the prior plan that the obligation remained at 539. But at that time we had conducted a vacant land adjustment, which is essentially divided the projects into realistic development potential. That's the RDP of what the town could produce of 316. And then unmet need was saying whatever was that 539 number minus the three 16, we are providing different zoning mechanisms that could capture what was left over based on that plan. When that was submitted to the program and the court, that's what ended up being challenged by Eminem and Fair Share Housing Center. And that was negotiations that the township carried out over the course of the fall and like I said, wasn't able to fully settle with m and m. So that's why their property site has been included in the plan at that density. But that is a density that's been negotiated because that site wasn't originally included in the plan from last year.  
Speaker 5     00:30:23    And as, yeah, as I'll repeat it, what the mayor said, these are very tight deadlines. To put it in perspective, the town had until the end of 2025 to negotiate and work with any challenger, which was m and m and Fair Share Housing Center, which we diligently did. And then we put forth this proposed amendment and we are working with Eminem and Fair share. This plan that I propo went over tonight is what for the Fair Share Housing Center, the court, the program have all signed off on concerning that the town continues its diligence of negotiations with m and m, which at this point in time they're on board with this plan. So this is what the township is proposing to move forward with and has the backing of the court in the program. But yet to put it in perspective, I know it's a tight turnaround because these are all to emphasize, these are all state mandated deadlines.  
Speaker 5     00:31:20    This isn't something the town is pushing through. Yeah. These are all deadlines that are required by the Amended Fair Housing Act to meet. And one of them being this March deadline is to adopt any proposed amendments to the plan, which we've done. And it wasn't until we received essentially a letter of continued immunity to builders remedy lawsuits from the program in the court at the, I think it was February 20th, is when that letter was issued, that decision was issued. So like I said, these are very tight timelines that have been going forth and the township has been diligently working through the challenges to come up with this plan.  
Speaker 9     00:32:01    W Wyatt, I appreciate the explanation. You know, I expressed the same concern as the mayor, but thank you for walking us through it.  
Speaker 5     00:32:06    Yes.  
Speaker 8     00:32:07    So Phillip and the other board members, just so you know, there was one judge hailing 300 plus towns in the entire state.  
Speaker 0     00:32:16    Hmm. Wow.  
Speaker 8     00:32:18    That's how screwed up this whole, like this, this law is,  
Speaker 0     00:32:27    Why did it come to come to a head like this? Why was it so compacted together and came to a deadline like this?  
Speaker 5     00:32:38    It was the way that the, the law was written with these deadlines.  
Speaker 8     00:32:44    This is the law that was written in signing the law by the governor at the time.  
Speaker 0     00:32:53    And so it landed in the lap of the new administration,  
Speaker 8     00:32:57    DCA in charge of saying, oh, well you have X, Y, Z. They never bought a look at Google Earth to see if it was developable or not. And they even wanted on the interchanges at 2 87 for us to put housing on the interchange, meaning where the ramps are. I mean the, the, the original planet the state wanted it was four times as worse. All I know is that when while this comes to ion, there's gonna be a lot of upset people in town when you see all this housing being built.  
Speaker 0     00:33:38    Well, they need to see it before it's actually being built.  
Speaker 8     00:33:45    Yeah, they'll they'll be as, as Mr. Barley said, there'll be applications before the board. But the problem is, is the courts are mandating Piscataway and 300 plus other towns. That's the problem.  
Speaker 4     00:34:02    Yep. That's what it's  
Speaker 0     00:34:07    Why you wanna unshare your screen.  
Speaker 5     00:34:09    Yes.  
Speaker 0     00:34:11    All right.  
Speaker 9     00:34:11    Can I just ask one more clarifying question? Yes. The properties that were shared on that list, are those all spots that are redeveloped or, or you know, currently open space that are, would be developed?  
Speaker 5     00:34:26    There are different stages. So I try in the Trica wasn't sure if it was clear, but the, it is divided between proposed and completed projects. So some of these projects have already been completed and the units are built. So this isn't any new development that the town is saying they're gonna build. They're already existing affordable units that were built since the last round of affordable housing and we're just simply crediting them to the fourth round. Others are in different stages of development. So some of them just simply went through planning board approval and yeah, planning board approval and might be under construction. Others are in the very early stages of the redevelopment process. So they're all at different stages. Some of them are very early proposed. For example, the Macedonia site is obviously at the concept stage. Others have already been completely built like the William Street town have already been constructed.  
Speaker 9     00:35:25    Thank you. Lauren. I ask mayors, I wonder if there's an opportunity to pull Green Acres, acres funding and into preserving some of the areas if as a way to preserve some spaces, but our conversation for another day. I'm just curious of where the stages we're at.  
Speaker 2     00:35:36    Thank you Wyatt,  
Speaker 0     00:35:39    Are there any other questions from the board? Are we, do we have, are we ready to open it up to the public?  
Speaker 2     00:35:51    You should open it to the public Madam Chair. Yeah.  
Speaker 0     00:35:53    Okay. Members of the public, you've heard the testimony on this issue. Does anyone in the public wishing to ask a question? You can raise your hand at this time. Seeing no response at this time. It's closed to the public.  
Speaker 2     00:36:12    So Madam Chair, unless there's any last minute questions of Mr. Grant, the process at this point would be a, a motion to adopt the amended fourth round housing element and fair share plan as presented by Harbor Consultants, which is the board's affordable housing experts and as testified to by Mr. Grant.  
Speaker 0     00:36:42    Would someone on the board like to make the motion as it was set forth by Mr. Barlow?  
Speaker 1     00:36:51    Madam Chair Dawn Corcoran. I'll make that motion.  
Speaker 0     00:36:54    Do I have a second?  
Speaker 4     00:36:55    Reverend Kinneally? I'll second that motion  
Speaker 0     00:36:58    Roll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:36:59    Mayor Wahler. Unfortunately, yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:37:09    I'm with the mayor.  
Speaker 1     00:37:10    Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Ahmed? Yes, I'm with the mayor. Thank you Mr. Aria. Yes. And Madam Chair?  
Speaker 0     00:37:23    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:37:24    And Madam Chair because as I indicated we have to get this resolution adopted prior to the March 16th deadline. I did Out of an abundance of caution and because of the timeframes prepare a resolution memorializing the motion that was just adopted. I believe Ms. Saunders has  
Speaker 0     00:37:42    Ms. Saunders, do you have that resolution?  
Speaker 3     00:37:44    Okay, that's not the retention one, right? Okay. No,  
Speaker 2     00:37:48    No.  
Speaker 1     00:37:48    Gimme second. No, they're all all sent together. You have it?  
Speaker 3     00:37:52    Yeah. 'cause I have one that has four, so I'm trying to figure out which one it is.  
Speaker 1     00:37:56    Yeah, you could just read it off the agenda.  
Speaker 3     00:37:59    Okay. Okay. I think I have it. Okay. Madam Chairman, I'd like to memorialize the resolution for the adoption of the amended fourth round housing element and fair share plan.  
Speaker 0     00:38:11    Do I have a second?  
Speaker 4     00:38:13    Reverend Kinneally? I'll second that. Madam Chair.  
Speaker 0     00:38:15    Thank you. Roll call.  
Speaker 1     00:38:17    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Council wo. Excuse me. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:38:23    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:38:24    Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Hammed? Yes. Mr. Aria? Yes. And Madam Chair? Yes. Approved.  
Speaker 0     00:38:37    All right. Returning to our agenda tonight, we have another matter under discussion.  
Speaker 2     00:38:42    Yep. Madam Chair, this board had previously found the block 2 0 1 lot 1 0 1 block 2 0 2 lot 42.02, also known as 1179 and 7 76 South second Street to be in area areas in need of redevelopment. At this juncture, what's being sought is to authorize foresight, planning to prepare a redevelopment plan in keeping with that designation that it's an area in need of redevelopment.  
Speaker 8     00:39:17    Mr. Barlow, just for the board members, this is at the end of South second Street that backs up to Dunnellon. This is where the town, there's been a lot of problems there. Illegal dumping and arson fires and some of the old structures there.  
Speaker 2     00:39:36    So this would authorize Mr. Clark in a foresight planning to see what would work best back there. Obviously better than what the mayor just indicated is there,  
Speaker 0     00:39:49    So this is to authorize a redevelopment plan,  
Speaker 2     00:39:52    Maam? Yes ma'am.  
Speaker 0     00:39:54    Does anyone do what? The members of the board after even the, the premise set forth by the mayor. Would someone like to make a motion?  
Speaker 10    00:40:05    Madam Chair Dawn Corcoran. I'll make the motion that we retain foresight planning to prepare the redevelopment plan.  
Speaker 0     00:40:12    Do I have a second?  
Speaker 2     00:40:14    I'll second it.  
Speaker 0     00:40:15    Thank you. Roll call please.  
Speaker 1     00:40:17    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yes. Ms. Saunders? Yes. Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins?  
Speaker 2     00:40:25    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:40:26    Mr. Hammed? Yes. Mr. Aria? Yes. And Madam chair?  
Speaker 0     00:40:31    Yes.  
Speaker 2     00:40:32    And, and again I prepared a resolution so that foresight could start working on it without delay that I believe Ms. Saunders has Madam Chair.  
Speaker 0     00:40:42    Ms. Saunders?  
Speaker 3     00:40:43    I do hold. Yes. One second. Okay. Madam Chair, I'd like to memorialize the resolution for further retention of foresight planning LLC to prepare a redevelopment plan for block 2 0 1 lot 1.01 and block 2 0 2 lot 42.02.  
Speaker 0     00:41:03    Do I have a second?  
Speaker 8     00:41:04    Reverend County? I'll second that  
Speaker 0     00:41:07    Please.  
Speaker 1     00:41:08    Mayor Wahler? Yes. Ms. Corcoran? Yeah. Ms. Saunders? Yes. Reverend Kinneally? Yes. Mr. Atkins? Yes. Mr. Hammed? Yes. Mr. Aria? Yes. And Madam chair?  
Speaker 0     00:41:24    Yes.  
Speaker 1     00:41:30    Alright.  
Speaker 0     00:41:31    Okay Madam, we have paid the bills. I think to just a reminder that the next site plan meeting will be March the 25th and our next planning. But more  
Speaker 8     00:41:42    Importantly, Madam Chair, it's St. Patrick's Day next week.  
Speaker 0     00:41:46    Yes, that's true. Next Tuesday. So we don don't wanna forget that everyone have a safe and celebratory. We're all Irish on Tuesday. Thank you. Have a good night everyone. Thanks for everybody. Good night everyone. Everyone. Motion and the meeting is adjourned. Thanks. Have a good evening everyone. Thanks. You too. Thank you.